they kept the interaction in this build but nerfed the damage by 99% and the shield by 68%, so its dead anyway

talked about this a bit in our discord and that was something we agreed upon is lowering tank util which inherently lowers responsibility of the role which is a big barrier to entry

actually would be nice considering sometimes you just dont need it for yourself

@@chrismccormick5976 stagger is insanely good in m+ rn, I’m also never referring to raid in my vids

Fyi, I play mistweaver. And I feel the same way you do, why bring mw when you could bring any other healer. If priest and mw do the same healing, you bring priest 100% of the time.

@@TheCloudMovies that’s the mud trinket

Celestial brew definitely needs a buff or a way to enhance it more via blackout combo (right now the blackout combo for it is very underwhelming). also agreed zen med needs to go

@@akagamiYasha play what’s fun imo but I get the frustration, being blamed gets annoying

@@graysaltine6035 dungeon pool is a large part of it, having too much uniqueness without evening the power level is bad but I do agree that uniqueness is very good in wow and we need more esp for class fantasy. Power level diff isn’t checked atm

agreed. something heavily class fantasy would be great

but more people would play it if it was not at the bottom or close to it every season

@@davidgreenberg8456 after 6 years they prob dont care how the tank distribution looks like..otherwise they could have just overbuffed brew for one season and fiy the issue

Blizzard is probably talking about raiding. Right now in mythic raiding, Brew is meta and still has the smoothest damage intake as well as being the most survivable tank. I feel like that's the problem with the stagger mechanic itself. Stagger is just too good for raid but terrible in m+. If brew gets buffed defensively for m+ then they just outperform every other tanks in raiding. Would be great if there's a talent to reduce stagger % by a large amount for a less equivalent DR/self healing.

They could improve Stagger in 5 man parties like Discs healing is improved outside of raids.

@@CL-jq1xsjust do “if outside raid environment stagger increased by x%” that’s easy they did that to disc priest. 😮

@@RodrigoLima-dt4gx I see a lot of channels and comments touting this as a solution to "X healer or spec" and it's just a weak take. Not even all the healers work the same - that fix worked specifically for disc because of the way in which it heals and how the healing scales in larger groups sizes. How exactly does having fewer people in the party make Brew weaker? It doesn't. You still have to balance the spec, all you've done is move the starting point. It also restricts how you balance and rework the spec you apply it to; Like it could have worked for Paladin when Glimmer was a thing - instead of putting a hard cap on glimmer targets in raid, they could have done a fix like that but Glimmer wasn't "historically integral" enough to Hpal's kit to leave it alone and make a foundation-level band-aid fix instead. Atonement is the cornerstone of Disc and has been for 20 years so if they had left them with buffed overall throughput but capped Atonements in raid there would have been riots. In the same way, now they can never rework Atonement without reviewing the M+/Raid throughput split because changes are going to have varying impact based on content - like I said, you still have to balance the spec you're just moving the starting line. We should remember that before the giant band-aid, Disc wasn't just "bad" in M+ - it was _literally unplayable_ in M+. It's one or the other and I am in favour of specifically tailored changes and reworks to specs rather than this room-temp-IQ fix of "just give it a flat increase wherever it sucks". Don't give them an easy out by letting them move the goal-posts based on content - make them do the hard work and balance the f*cking game. We already have lame, generic Tier bonuses incoming - I don't want them getting even lazier and acting like "we asked for it".

@@graysaltine6035 If they were to add increase stagger effectiveness tuning switch for brew it's not for lower amount of players in the content, it's just for the amount of mobs hitting it in combat, in raid you rarely tank boss + multiple adds, it's usually just the main boss, and you have your co tank to play with too. It's also not a content that infinitely scales with dmg. I do agree that this type of tuning switch doesn't work for majority of specs, but for stagger it makes a lot of sense since stagger is just particularly trash vs higher mob counts while being very strong vs single targets.

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