I hope your insurance covered the cost of repairs! 😅
@RCBobOng12 күн бұрын
😂
@Retep1218 күн бұрын
I can do that too.......with XK X450🤪🤣😂, I didn't know that EDFs could be kept in the air so slowly, great, almost a perfect landing.
@RCBobOng18 күн бұрын
Thanks Peter. Both my 50mm and 30mm J10 EDFs can fly really slow in high alpha attitude. I believe the front canards play a role in the flying characteristics, similar to the Eurofighter, Rafale, JAS 39 Gripen etc. You should get 1 too! 😁
@Retep1219 күн бұрын
It's a cool thing, it stays in the air well even when the wind is strong👍. Is it your national holiday? A few years ago I tied a German flag to the drone for the World Cup (while drunk), but of course it got rolled up and the drone crashed. The electronics and motors survived, but the rest didn't.🤪
@RCBobOng19 күн бұрын
So you did drunk flying? 🤣 Yes, we are celebrating our country's 59th independence day on the 9th August. The 50mm J10 EDF can fly surprisingly slow on a windy day at a high alpha attitude. Having the Byme gyro onboard does help a lot and it really flatters my skills. 😁
@Retep12Ай бұрын
Someone parked in the air, or you were going too fast🤣😂😁👍But that's a different jet, right?
@RCBobOngАй бұрын
Yes, it's a different EDF jet, 50mm J10 made of very flexible foam kit. I didn't see his plane when I launched mine, so I'm surprised when I reviewed my onboard videos. We were really close to a T-bone crash.
@Retep122 ай бұрын
Bob, how much Mach? I think you're at 6s somewhere 🚀. The airframe has already had a few test flights, right? What have you installed, Byme D again? Flight time of the little one?
@RCBobOng2 ай бұрын
Hi Peter, I just read your comment. I will try to do a flying video of this plane soon. Thank!
@darryl19752 ай бұрын
Nice! Looking forward to see u fly this soon…
@RCBobOng2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I've a bigger version coming soon! 😁
@darryl19752 ай бұрын
Wow! U play car also. Wheee did u play? Join u next time.
@RCBobOng2 ай бұрын
My kid plays, I only touch a bit when fingers itchy. 😆
@Retep122 ай бұрын
Hello Bob, unlike my other XK planes, the 6G/3D switch on the X450 is mapped to a memory switch. Press 3D once, press again to go back to 6G. That takes too long and I never know if the switch has been made. (Risk of crashing) On my other planes I hold down the 3D button for stunts, when I let go it automatically goes back to 6G mode. Do you know how this function can be mapped in OTx? I suspect via a logical switch. But I haven't found the solution yet.😅
@Retep122 ай бұрын
That's done, I sometimes think too complicated😄
@RCBobOng2 ай бұрын
@@Retep12 Hi Peter, glad you found the solution. If your Jumper has a momentarily switch, you can map it with logical switch function and set a minimum duration for 'on' time. However if you intend to use a 2 way switch, the solution will be a little more complicated.
@Retep122 ай бұрын
Releasing the momentary switch SD must trigger another switching operation 988>2012. I have not found a solution yet. SRFF and PULS are not available in Otx as a function in logical switches or have been named differently.
@RCBobOng2 ай бұрын
@@Retep12 Hi Peter, based on the info available at mult-protocol.org, 3D/6G (ch8) is defined as momentary switch. Can I assume that every time that button is pressed and released, the X8 radio will send a change in PWM i.e. 988>2012>988 to the plane or it is only 988>2012 ? If it is the latter, then another press on it will bring it back to 988 ? Let's assume it is the first case, so when the button is pressed for the first time, 988>2012>988 is sent to the plane to enable 3D mode. To get back into 6G, press the button again and another 988>2012>988 is sent. Below is what I come out with: L01 EDGE SD↓ [0.2:<<] - - - L02 EDGE SD↑ [0.0:<<] L03 L03 STKY L01 L02 - - - L04 OR L01 L02 - - - For L01 and L02, you may set the duration to 0.2 or longer if the plane doesn't respond properly. For L01, the [0.2:<<} gives a slight delay 0.2 seconds after the button is pressed. This is to remove accidental triggering of the switch. L03 is there to ensure L02 can only be triggered AFTER L01 has occurred. You may map L04 directly to ch8. SRFF is now named as STKY. It's difficult to discuss this on YT. If you need more help, you may email me gmail com 😊
@redwingrc32705 ай бұрын
Nice video! The H650 and the larger HLK-31 are in stock at RedwingRC.
@Califaztlan8315 ай бұрын
That thing rips! So specifically which 3s battery do you recommend for this small plane?
@RCBobOng5 ай бұрын
I've only flown it with Infinity 3S 850mAh 85C and Gens Ace 3S 800mAh 45C. The latter has slightly lower internal resistance and just a little bit lighter. The Infinity can take much abuse without puffing up. Flight time is about 5 minutes max with throttle management. Your mileage may vary though. 😊
@Califaztlan8315 ай бұрын
One more question... can the h650 make loops with a 3s?
@Califaztlan8315 ай бұрын
😮Nice! Very nice! 👍 Im a beginner R/C pilot. Anyway you can send me a pic of your 3s battery and your additional servo? Here's a short clip of my h650, but its nowhere as quick as yours. Mine's all stock. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmndgKeQp514gaMfeature=shared
@georged.14395 ай бұрын
Hello, please let me know what kind of Afterburner u installed? I need one for my 50mm Mig 17 EDF...thank you🙂
@josephbes35675 ай бұрын
Now i havd to take mine out asap im still yet to try it. I buy too many planes 😂
@roadstar4995 ай бұрын
I actually maidened mine yesterday..sooo easy to fly..i am thinking og setting it up on my spectrum radio...thinking just a 20 amp esc,leaving stock motor and adding a rx/gyro that i can switch on and off...i am not sure stock setup can handle 3s..but i am sure 3s 1000 should be fine with stock motor and prop.. I know instructions say press left button 5 times to turn off gyro, i get 5 beeps but gyro stays on...have you been able to turn off gyro? Maybe plane needs to be flying..? Thanks
@RCBobOng5 ай бұрын
Hi, you can try 5 quick presses of the left button. There will be 2 beeps and the green led on the receiver board should turn red. It doesn't matter if the plane is flying or if the throttle is armed. I believe the stock ESC is rated for 20A and we have been flying it on 3S but everything does heat up a fair bit. Some of us has converted it to with external receiver and gyro for much better control. You may do a search over on RCGroups forum. Here is a video of 1 of us... 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/enXadHpnjZuVgsUsi=IezKZizCPSIkLoM9
@hassanhammoud22435 ай бұрын
Yeah unfortunately that happened to me as well but I had the servo go out the first time and I had nothing but upward motion it was to the sky straight up with the servo and it kept moving forward and it never stopped the servo. And like I said I went through three of these and I just keep purchasing it I got to come up with a different solution the torque from the Finn's they just spring off the little knobs because they're literally pressed in between through little beaded slots.
@RCBobOng5 ай бұрын
Yes, the stock props can be rather fragile. They do get damaged with rough landings.
@hassanhammoud22435 ай бұрын
I got to tell you with all these cool shots and stuff like that I've never seen something record from the back like that it's a whole different aspect and I think that's absolutely wild especially watching it in a totally different way. I have the identical red one like yours and I also have the larger blue one and they are both a ton of fun.
@Retep125 ай бұрын
Well, asphalt is not safe from you either, Bob is always in a rush of speed.....🤣😁
@darryl19752 ай бұрын
I just bought a buggy. Maybe will go OHR to try out as it mentioned can go up to 100kmh
@Retep126 ай бұрын
Sieht schon geil aus, der Sound beim Flug hört sich auch gut an..😁
@darryl19756 ай бұрын
Waiting for mine to come…
@darryl19756 ай бұрын
@@RCBobOng I ordered from taobao. Happy CNY
@darryl19756 ай бұрын
Old holland road? Great plane. Shall get it and try…
@Retep127 ай бұрын
Nose off, I know that from stock transmitter times and fault lines. 3s junkie!!!😂😂🤣
@RCBobOng7 ай бұрын
Oh yes, running 3S in this video. 😁
@theoztreecrasher26477 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your proxy tests Bob. At no pain to us! 😜🤣🤣
@Retep127 ай бұрын
Yes, the thing really works and looks cool 😮. Thanks
@classybasketscatering15997 ай бұрын
Nice view
@josephbes35677 ай бұрын
Just got one still havent flown it. Think I'll put camera elsewhere
@propgear1239 ай бұрын
Oof. I will keep an eye on mine bud 👍🏼hope it wasnt to damaged ❤❤❤
@propgear1239 ай бұрын
Awesome on board footage bud ❤❤❤looks good off water. I bottled it as i thought mine would flip over 😂😂😂i will try it 1 day 👌🏼new supporter here ❤❤❤👊🏼
@RCBobOng9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support! It's a fun versatile plane that can take much punishment. You got to try it on the water, just make sure there isn't much wind or waves. It can easily capsize in cross wind (happened to me twice already!) 😁
@propgear1239 ай бұрын
@@RCBobOng haha that is what I am afraid of. It is normally windy here and I don't have a reliable rescue boat yet. I may wait till summer as its freezing now and I ain't going in after it if it flips 🤣🤣🤣👊🏼
@Retep129 ай бұрын
Oh, sorry, habe vergessen zu übersetzen...😢
@RCBobOng9 ай бұрын
Haha! Google translate to the rescue! 😆
@Retep129 ай бұрын
4 min hast du aber fast voll, der Nachbrenner sieht in der Dämmerung bestimmt auch geil aus.
@Retep129 ай бұрын
Du kannst das doch gut mit dem Flieger...😮 Eine riesige Ansaugöffnung hat das Ding😅 Schade das die Flugzeit so kurz ist, ich dachte EDFs sind effektiver. Dein Sohn kann mal ein Flugvideo machen, möchte das Gerät mal am Himmel sehen, muß ja keine professionelle Aufnahme sein. Gruss Peter
@RCBobOng9 ай бұрын
Thanks Peter. It does have a unique air intake at it's belly, direct into the air flow. It's not easy to take good videos of flying RC planes. We tried several times but the plane is just a flying dot on the screen. 😂
@swede52099 ай бұрын
What kind of camera? Mine Raptor just came in the mail today.
@RCBobOng9 ай бұрын
It's a Runcam Thumb powered off a small 1S lipo battery. Have fun with the Raptor!
@ghoward679711 ай бұрын
Playing this in slow motion is best.... very cool
@RCBobOng11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad that you enjoy it!
@Retep1211 ай бұрын
If the BEC is on the circuit board of the H650, an additional BEC for the power supply (5V) of the two parts must be installed when replacing the flight controller and receiver, right? Which cables then go from the original esc to the new flight controller, sbus and the negative cable or just sbus? Sorry, I'm not an electronics engineer.
@Retep12 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bob, so it happened to you too. The propellers can't stand the load, with me already at 2s. Did your H650 survive?
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
Well, this was the only time my propeller failed completely. I suspect the root cause is due to the aileron servo coming loose and into the path of the blade tips. At that moment, I was wide open throttle (3S) and making a vertical climb, so there was a lot of forward flexing on the motor pylon.
@llledmarlll Жыл бұрын
This happened to me twice, the first time the servo dropped and the other time the propeller simply broke. I'm using the Gemfan 51466 V2 propeller, not articulated and that's the only way I was able to take off from the water. The performance of this propeller is better than the original one.
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
Wow. Weak link to the Paptor?
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
If you crash as often and as bad as I do 😱, then yes, this plastic frame piece that holds the aileron servo in will break. Once the servo comes off loose, it's a matter of time before the blades will strike it.
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
Ahhh. So the black aileron clamp on frames came loose causing the prop blades to hit and disintegrate? Is the foam material for the ailerons ok? Or do you need to order replacement along with aileron frame?
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
I have several big crashes to the point of breaking the fuselage/wings in half. Every time I've managed to glue everything back together after some hot water treatment to get the broken foam back into shape. It will be most useful to have some spares on hand whenever you need them. I do have a complete spare fuselage with all the plastic pieces ready to go for the next big ground smack. 🤣
@Retep12 Жыл бұрын
Video 3x angesehen, kann keinen Schaden sehen?😮
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
Wenn Sie sich das Querruderservo genau ansehen, ist es aufgesprungen. Mein nächstes Video wird zeigen, dass dies wahrscheinlich die Ursache für den anschließenden Absturz ist! 😥
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
Did the camera on the wing tip cause difficult maneuvering while in the air? The landing looked to be affected. 🤔 Yes the view was cool. I think it would be a good video looking 180 degrees away from the motor as you bank. Then full view of the landscape. Nevertheless, the view of the aileron and rudder action was great! 👍
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
The effect on the image in this video compared to the other two videos flying over the water that I saw; how do you explain the artifact in this one? Is it due to the lower voltage supplied by the 1S battery (3.7V) compared to the 5 V needed that you have as you described attached to an extra BEC that you mounted in the battery compartment as you described on another forum? Also it is very interesting to see how the ailerons maneuver short brief movements to adjust for any wind disturbance or manipulation. The camera images show quite a lot of the function on the tail end of this airplane. Great stuff!
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
Having read your comment again, I'm not sure if I understood correctly which artifact you're referring to. 🤣 If you're referring to the artifact on the prop, that's more to do with the 'shutter' speed of the camera. It always happens when under a bright sunny day. Those videos that were taken at the river were done quite late at sunset. Less light equals slower shutter speed, more mesh up of any movement.
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
@@RCBobOng excellent information! It’s amazing how quickly this Paptor elevates to high altitude. Mine came with a 3000kv brushless motor. The recommended spare they show during purchase of the Paptor is only 2300kv. I ordered a replacement on the parts breakdown list, but it doesn’t show the kv value in the parts listing. We’ll see when it arrives. I always like to have spare parts on hand. Salt water in my area can be a problem.
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
@@floser75 Just like with fishing gear in salt water you have to rinse it all down when done or everything starts rusting and corroding. Rinsing down the motor would present an issue I’m sure.
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
@@lebleup Hi, to turn off the stabilisation, you can press the top left button 5 times in quick succession. You'll hear 2 "beeps". To get it back to stabilised mode, press it just once more and you'll hear a single "beep".
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
@@RCBobOng Wow thank you! Is there an instruction page for the Paptor in English somewhere? Somehow I think there is more function to this place than I am aware of. Thank you for the information.
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
Hey really nice video. Is there any detail you can give on how you set this cam up on the Paptor? Thanks .
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
Thank you! My setup is nothing too complicated. I have a piece of fibreglass tape over the top side of the hatch cover (near the plane's COG). That tape has a good wide base upon which I attached double sided foam tape that will hold the Runcam steady with its original mount. For this video, I used a small 1S 380mAh LiPo as power source and tucked it under the hatch cover with tape to stop it flopping around. Whole setup is plug and play. Hope that helps.
@lebleup Жыл бұрын
@@RCBobOng very nice! I just got a Paptor. It looks like I have a project to add to this new flight experience. Your idea is awesome! Thank you for sharing and again thanks for the videos they are very awesome.
@theoztreecrasher2647 Жыл бұрын
That livened it up Bob! What was the size/weight of your 3s battery? Everything else left stock?
@theoztreecrasher2647 Жыл бұрын
Interesting watching the motor pylon flexing in flight Bob! 😊 The little Devil does pretty good! Have to get mine in the air before 1 of the other Old Farts gets his here. 😉
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
Yes, it does flex a fair bit. I have blade tip cuts near the "gutter" area from a few bad landings. The horizontal stabiliser/elevator is another weak point but ok for now as long as I'm not attempting any acrobats. 😁
@llledmarlll Жыл бұрын
Yes, happened two time with me. I am using Gemfan propeller MCK 51466 V2, with good performance. Only with this prop I can land from water.
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
@@llledmarlll 👍 that's good info. Thanks!
@theoztreecrasher2647 Жыл бұрын
@@RCBobOng We've got a 5x4x3 drone blade on currently. Works OK but it has put several marks in the plastic from heavy bumps down in spite of having some clearance on the prop when still. I'd say that using a 5.1" prop would be stretching it a bit unless you plan on treating it nice and gentle - and that's not what we bought them for! 😉😊
@RCBobOng Жыл бұрын
I guess maybe that's the reason why the stock prop is some weird size of 4.8", to give a little more clearance. Even so, with any rough positive G landing, it won't be long before something goes BANG! 🤣 It forces me to keep it smooth when touching down. Good habit for future bigger planes.