[EDIT]No lag. The game thinks it's still running at 35 fps. An extra frame is generated before that. [EDIT] At least I didn't notice any running the SA circuit. With ICR2 and the Nascar games there isn't any. [/EDIT2] [/EDIT] Not sure. You could try it out and see. www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1308284#p1308284 The store based version should update sometime today. For gpl, you need to set the resolution to default not upscale. Select a higher resolution in game.

No lag. The game thinks it's still running at 35 fps. An extra frame is generated before that.

I haven't released that yet. I hope to release the build by the end of the week. I was trying to include early support for cgl but that isn't ready. End of this week or early next week at the latest. It takes a while to test everything, every single RRedline and Speedy3D app. So, by early next week or the end of this week it should be there. Not releasing it right after adding frame interpolation and windowed mode is a mistake on my part.

The alpha release now has frame generation. www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1308284#p1308284 The store build's been pushed out to the store. It'll probably be tomorrow by the time it's live.

Thanks! The store based version doesn't have the watermark: apps.microsoft.com/detail/9nrcqj8vlgtk?hl=en-US&gl=US You could also build the open source version of the dlls, which is based on the same code as RReady, but I don't supply any prebuilt versions and it's mostly untested. The code should be identical but I only supply it to stay in line with open source licensing. Regular Dosbox-staging might incorporate it at some point in the distance future, but I'm not responsible for that. Also the open source wrapper doesn't do rredline. Also you should enable dma before running the game. If you haven't already . At dos prompt, type Set SPEEDY3D_DMA=1 You could stick this in a batch file for launching the game.

@ I went ahead and purchased the store version. Wanted to give you some support :)

@@stud33heisman41 Thank you happy customer! Does it work? The demos and the RRedline (Rendition Windows) specific game binaries are linked in the help file. But you can download those from the Alpha (free) RLauncher and restart the store RLauncher and they should should show up. I don't have the rights to include those with my releases and the MS Store doesn't allow sideloading from public sources (or any sources). The downloads in the Alpha launcher are checksum verified, so your machine should be safe.

Ok. But what's happening with RReady? Is it automatically switching to VESA mode? I can't tell at the moment because there's no video.

@@sharangadayananda can't say, game definitely runs on background, demoplay happening.

It's a classic!

Should be South Africa. That's the track used for the SA Grand Prix.

@@sharangadayananda Ill check, thanks !

If you're using the Rendition renderer, you'll have to set the upscaling resolution to default and use the resolution settings in the game, which apply to actual gameplay.

At the moment just Speedy3D. Cgl support is currently being looked at. I hope to get cgl up and running within the next 6 months.

Thanks a lot! Stability problem needs to be fixed now, a consequence of the improved speed. I want move over to cgl land soon as well.

Thanks, maybe you should give it a go?

@@sharangadayananda i give a try later

Thanks! Looking forward to that!

Aargh! How is it in the original game? I should probably test it on my Stealth II. The game usually sets requests the state. [EDIT] Nope, the line's not there on original h/w.

Maybe it just needs integer texture coordinates (rounded to the nearest texel) like Tomb Raider.

I disabled texture clamping globally for this game and the line was still there. Even forcing tex coord rounding didn't work. I think the texture dimension is being miscalculated here. Usually for DOS games, the U and V Multipliers are equal to the horizontal and vertical size of the texture. [EDIT] On real hardware accessing a texture beyond its limit, if it's not clamped by umask and vmask will read VRAM beyond the edge. With RReady VRAM constrained by the multipliers is loaded as a texture. Will look into this. [EDIT] added to my bugs list.

The stray line on top of the tree line was in fact a GL_REPEAT bug. Well spotted! Setting the default clamping mode to NO_CLAMP (i.e. repeat) fixes the bug. The stray lines in the sky box is something more insidious.

I see it as more of a retro gaming problem. Quakes 1 & 2 are still great games and deserve to run at their best, even in vquake flavours.

How it affects the framerate???

@@sharangadayananda hmmm... gonna have to rewatch...

On the top left of each pane there's an fps indicator. On the left it's almost constantly at 60 fps. On the right (the fps indicator is near the top centre of the video), the framerate dips to 20 fps while firing repeatedly.

Didn't notice your reply, sorry, there was no notification.

Thank you, thank you. I've had fun getting it working.

Thanks!

I think the video is too long and boring.

@@sharangadayananda side by side video slit can decrease video length. shorter length and straight informative = success . Its what i want to do and its hard. For me this video is ok. As i am directly interested in details .

I'm glad youtube didn't cut the bitrate and leave a pixellated mess.

Argentina, wow! And thanks for your kind words!!!

You sure? That's running at 768x576 underwater. The default res is 320x200. The @WhiteMagicRaven hacks allow it to be increased. Or do you mean the sine warp is wrong? I think this is running at 320x200: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXuQpHSipal_mNUsi=D0wkaBkX1TTzau0Y. The z-buffering is broken in this video.

Can you point out what's wrong? I've tried it on a Rendition card and don't see a difference.

You're right. The murk (palette overlay colour) is too light. On real hardware it's a lot darker.

Yeah I agree

Thank you!

A stability fix tfor rebel moon and vquake should be online by the weekend. There's a mouse input releated lockup. Sorry, but dos support is still in alpha.

Thanks! I'll be sure to get the next update

The update is live now.

[edit] I see the problem. When I developed the wrapper I didn't actually have a Rendition board, so didn't actually pick up that chroma keying was too aggressive. Too much of the background is being removed. So much that part of the image is being lopped off. Yes it will be fixed, by the next update., within the next 2-3 weeks or possibly sooner. [/EDIT] Which sprites specifically? I don't remember seeing any missing sprites. But if there's a glitch, it will be fixed. The chroma keying might be too aggressive in which case it can be turned down. Before adding support for the last 3 games I'm working on improving compatibility with the existing games, so yes it will be fixed.

@@sharangadayananda Yep it looks like there are gaps within the enemy sprites (worst around the legs) when they should be solid. Good to hear it will be fixed, I've been waiting to play this game for many years. Great work, thank you!

Fixed in internal builds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/on6qf3Zuas-YmNUsi=93fHb-Ov0BLx6ahh Will need to test it thoroughly before pushing it out to the store. It turned out to be a a byte swapping issue (rearrange texture in vram and not a chroma keying problem.

Fixed in the watermarked alpha available here www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 And without the watermark on the Microsoft Store. It's probably a good idea to test the alpha to see if things work on your system, in case you're planning to buy a copy. The store's servers might take a while to mirror the update.

@@sharangadayananda I bought the store version last night. Hopefully will be available soon.

You're welcome! I've also had a fabulous time making it. If you have any problems with any of the games, please comment here or email [email protected]. Rendition boards had a fabulous architecture. I was firmly in the 3dfx camp back in the 90s, but I feel a bit bit poorer now for not having had a Rendition card back then. But writing this wrapper has given me a lot of appreciation for what Rendition did back in the day. It's a shame the V3300 never came out, that would've been something to see. BTW how does icr2 run on your system?

@@sharangadayananda It runs liquid smooth, no stutter or hiccups. I have to figure out how to capture the mouse in DOSBox, since it's annoying to not have it for the menus, but that may be my own ignorance on it. I haven't tested any mod tracks yet but that's the next step when I have more time later this week. I should also mention that I'm on an 8 year old system with a GTX 1050. Everything seems well optimized even on lesser equipment.

Some of the tracks don't work with the rendition edition, the guys over at icr2.net are working on modifying them for Rendition support. Some tracks work fine. High poly car sets have performance issues related to dosbox's cpu emulation. Setting cycles=400000 in the [cpu] section of %localappdata%/dosbox/dosbox-rendition.config should fix it. It does need a beefy cpu though. This appears to be a limitation of dosbox (single core performance).

@@sharangadayananda For my own curiosity's sake, I tried running the Monster Truck Madness 2 Community Patch with the wrapper. It works, but is super draggy with the view distance maxed out. Definitely not a priority (a vanilla install of the game runs fine with Rendition), but more as an FYI: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ6odKukiJZ3iK8

@Arenacale I can try making it work better, but it's unknown territory. I've never actually tried the community patch. Gpl I think works with the community patch, you just have to switch renderer. (gpl must be run at default res RReady and the resolution select must be set in-game). Gpl takes a few seconds to start up.

The only problem is to get high-poly car sets to run fast, a fixed number of cycles have to be used, which isn't ideal.

@@sharangadayananda one day everything is gona be work 100%

@taskanawa9604 I sure hope so.

Well I hope dosbox-rendition/rready works well for you. There're no stability issues with it.

An initial release with vQuake support and a few more games is live on the Microsoft Store (US link): apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NRCQJ8VLGTK?hl=en-US&gl=US or you can use the freeware watermarked alpha release from here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 The alpha release is identical to the store release except for the watermark. If you're running the alpha release the watermark might cover a lot of the screen, so set an upscaling resolution in RLauncher, in the DOS tab. The game will still be rendered at 320x200, but displayed at your monitor's native resolution. Most modern GPUs don't have inbuilt 320x200 resolution support, you'll have to either add a custom resolution OR upscale it (320x200 at 1920x1080p with 4:3 aspect).

I dunno if you're being sarcastic, but thanks anyway. :))

Do you know whether the rear view mirror colours are right?

@@sharangadayanandai really like it, directly truth from my heart. old games with insane good graphics makes me more sensetive than new games . its how i percept it)

@@sharangadayananda i really love what you doing, its awesome and beautiful. no sarcasm . really , believe me, if no care, no comments, but i care, always watching your videos, and upper color should be cyan and lower gray

@@WhiteMagicRaven It's ok dude. I can take a joke.

Are you having issues with the dos version? Speedy3d is supported only in the DOS release unfortunately. They never added hardware acceleration to the windows release. Icr2/cart 2 discs can be found on ebay relatively cheaply. You need to install the rendition edition in the car trend folder. If you need help setting it up I can help.

One other thing, the store based version doesn't have dos support yet. If you need support for the store version I can validate it and update it.

@@sharangadayananda Apologies I didnt actually realize it was never released for the windows version. Ill have another tinker with Dosbox. Thanks for your great work

@@sharangadayananda Will look at the store version shortly cheers

Dosbox-rendition is part of the RReady distribution in alpha. The paid for version of RReady doesn't support dosbox-rendition.

You can try out the alpha here : www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 Full instructions can be found here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1265535#p1265535

@@sharangadayananda Thanks but unfortunately never messed with dosbox so will wait till someone make a full tutorial for controls etc.

@@defenderbwe GPLaps has a pretty good tutorial. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5arm2mpnN5oaLs

Dos support is live on the store. Basic setup for Dosbox-Rendition/RReady. It's *not* the greatest video ever, but has the basic steps towards installing ICR2 and getting it to run with RReady: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pma8f4V_p6uYhJo For controller setup, you can use GPLaps excellent tutorial: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5arm2mpnN5oaLs

Very kind of you sir! You can try out the alpha here : www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 Full instructions can be found here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1265535#p1265535

You can try out the alpha here : www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 Full instructions can be found here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1265535#p1265535

@@sharangadayananda wow, thank you so much, i try later

Thank you! Cheers!

F10 works for me to toggle the camera. One user says it doesn't work, not entirely sure what's up with. What do the other F keys do?

@@sharangadayananda The other ones provide useful information about lap times, position, tyre temperatures, etc.

I'll test them and see when I get back to it tomorrow. They should work.

yes they do, I uploaded a video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJLFkGSnZ5aGd5I. You can also try the alpha release of ICR2 here (first post will be updated with the latest and greatest build): www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389

You can try out the alpha here : www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 Full instructions can be found here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1265535#p1265535

Thanks!

Thank you. At the moment only icr2 is supported. There's already a version that you can test 1drv.ms/u/c/5277ef8d4f2a9dcf/EbNl5dqw … DnWb9Q?e=1RS6MH www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1264633#p1264633 Extract dosbox into a fixed folder. Extract rready into another folder and run rlauncher, add dosbox to the win apps tab and set resolution under rendition settings max. Run dosbox from rlauncher. You'll need a c:/temp folder for intermediate files but they'll be moved in to a standard folder later. For the central mirror, after adding dosbox to Rlauncher add mirror=1 to rendition. Cfg in the dosbox folder. I haven't pushed it out to the store yet, so there's no watermark free version with Dos support. You'll need a quad core with a discrete gpu for dos support. I'm interested in feedback, performance and stability.

The link can be here www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1264633#p1264633

You might need to swap out the 50 kb effects. Dat file in effects with the 36 kb one from dos version for smoke and dust effects.

1drv.ms/u/c/5277ef8d4f2a9dcf/Ecbe_TIDgshJjcULVewW-R8BP389QaGS0jF1_vrjAzwBGA?e=QUsQuc MD5: 8556f0db556cb42591ac1d24770ece48 - Support for F10, this should fix F10 not working. (F10 is a special case in the Windows WIn32 API, it registers as ALT (SYS KEY) /menu bar instead of directly as F10, so this key specifically wasn't dealt with correctly.) - Tomb Raider render to texture fix (menus still not 100%) The helmets being monochrome is because GAMEOPTS.CFG is set to use 4 bit helmets (they're monochrome in 4 bit mode). You'll need to rename or delete this file and allow the game to re-create it. Unfortunately you'll have to redefine your controller config. You'll also the CARS95 car set in cars.

If you've got the CPU grunt you can add [rendition] threadsafe = true to %localappdata%\dosbox\dosbox-rendition.conf. This will fix the crashing/high cpu load corruption at the cost of performance. On a fast machine, the hit is mininal with occasional audio stutters.

On a quad core machine with a discrete gpu, it should be pretty stable (3 ghz +). Dos support isn't available in the store version yet. The completely free, but watermarked release is available here 1drv.ms/u/c/5277ef8d4f2a9dcf/EZkPpHp7IZhLsG1eEdHNKBwB9W8BaAGGH1x8W5iEvFcSXQ?e=JQ5HX7 Extract dosbox into a separate into a fixed folder and run rlauncher from the RReady zip (post-extraction). Add dosbox to the apps list under win apps and run dosbox with the launch button. You'll need a c:/temp folder for some test logs. Configure upscaling under rendition settings, set resolutions to max. Try it and see and if it works for you maybe you buy a copy. I'll be adding support for the store version soon. You'll need to install the rendition version of Cart. 2/icr2 and swap out the 50 kb effects. Dat folder in effects with the 36 kb file from the vanilla dos version. I'm always interested in feedback.

@@sharangadayananda I asked a different thing: - is Advanced Share Mapper Demo stable = do the mapped drives persist after reboot? Does it happen that a mapping can be lost? - Do you provide a Setup.exe file for this tool other than purchase it from Microsoft Store? (I already purchase it and will test soon, but I need it on PC where Store is blocked by Group policy)

@@gerardosista2469 You can set the shares to be persistent (Make permanent check box). The app needs admin rights to run, so if you've got group policy it might not work. I dunno. I can't supply a non store version of this app at the moment, sorry. You might be able to copy it from the installation folder, wherever Microsoft sticks it, though it might be inaccessible. And yes it's stable, but 1) the app, when actually mapping, elevates a helper app so you need admin right, 2) IP Version 4 resolution is required, this might work on most home IPV6 only networks, but I can't guarantee that 3) You need to run the version appropriate to your OS (32bit/64 bit).

Did the app work for you?

@@sharangadayananda Hello. Yes it worked but we switched to set manually host files due to policy restrictions. Thank you.

Thank you and yes. It was a requested feature. It can be turned on by adding mirror =1 rendition. Cfg (the RReady config file, found in this case as the same folder as dosbox. For Windows games it'll be in the game folder). This file is created when dosbox is added to the win apps tab.

Lol! That's true. Not bad for someone who spent most of the 90s benchmarking games and not actually playing them.

Thank you! Cheers!

Thank you!

This is on DOS. The Rendition Verité accelerated version of Whiplash running on dosbox-rendition with rready(Rendition wrapper). In case you were being facetious.

@@sharangadayananda That Looks Killer; I've been Repurposing Old PCs into retro games systems with my 3 lil ladies. I have a few mid 90s systems in the pile, I wanted to make a Killer DosBox instead of Emulation. I've been trying to find HD Packs for games like Quake III Arena in HD, Holy hell what an Upgrade to an already killer game So this is good to know, Appreciate the Responce!

You and me both!

You can try out the alpha here : www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 Full instructions can be found here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1265535#p1265535

the game stays original, this game developed for Rendition Verite video card, and their speedy3d api, this project is for making speedy3d version of game working on any other video card, on modern system , its like nGlide or dgVoodoo2 for games , its actually named RReady and its wrapper for rredline and speedy3d graphical api's

What @WhiteMagicRaven said. I'm posting clips of incremental improvements in compatibility.

Can do. I need to get basic stuff working first. The rear view mirrors aren't quite 100% and some textures change brightness at odd times. But when I fix these I'll post a vid on a decent track. Once this works I'll have to develop a basic open source wrapper that ships with dosbox to comply with licensing. Rready will replace the built in wrapper. So even when this is done you'll have to wait a bit until that's ready or the Free Software Foundation will make my life very very difficult. The built in wrapper will be functional, but I won't guarantee image quality or performance.

The initilal release is live on the Windows store (US link listed below): apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NRCQJ8VLGTK?hl=en-US&gl=US A basic tutorial on what I consider important for setting up RReady is here. It's very basic but, it does cover basic setup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pma8f4V_p6uYhJo ICR2/Cart 2 should be fully functional. Threadsafe = true might be required. But the code's been tweaked and it might not be necessary anymore. Oh and I couldn't register on icr2.net. Never got a confirmation from the admin.

On a V2000 it runs like this kzbin.infoCwQSQ63W50c?si=I1njWSzIwnmr2eIc. The artifacts with RReady are a bug and will be fixed. There're also some corrupt textures, clamping modes (repeating textures sometimes not repeating like with some spectators)

You kidding?

And corrupted textures!

@@sharangadayananda not kidding, its going very good, yes its not perfect, but much better than at start.

Are you sure?

Hopefully I can do a release soon.

You can try out the alpha here : www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 Full instructions can be found here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1265535#p1265535

Live on the Windows store now with ICR2 @100% compatibility (US link): apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NRCQJ8VLGTK?hl=en-US&gl=US or you can use the text/watermarked alpha release from here: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=1185389#p1185389 A very basic tutorial with the Rendition settings and basic installation is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pma8f4V_p6uYhJo

I'll look into it. Wasn't really planning on it. Would be nice though 👍. You could buy a copy of RReady Rendition Verité on the Microsoft Store. Speedy3D/Dos support will be added for free as the games are made compatible. Currently all 13 RRedline games and all known demos are supported.

You're not alone. This wouldn't have been possible without your tireless testing. Thank you.

There's still a lot more to do, so it'll be a while yet.