I know that, and say exactly that in my long video. Doesn't mean I can't still like the card though!

I hear you, and agree! It's old, it's the GOAT, and that picture is seriously awesome! It'll get there in time. Some of the ungraded on eBay started going for $5-6...not always, but sometimes.

Definitely! I knew these cards were a different size, but until I finally got one personally, it was hard to imagine the difference. Collectors should at least have one just to personally see the difference. You're right though, I wonder if they were meant to be wallet size!

Yeah, they printed too many of them. I wish they were worth a bit more too! I still really like the card though. I just thought it was neat that they messed up the year of his dunk championships on the back.

You too, Jason! Thanks so much! I always get a few laughs when I set this out with the Christmas decorations. (Just gotta make sure it's not gem mint first, haha) It's worth the buck or two just for that. Thanks for writing.

@@catalogedclutter7046 We love collecting sports cards! My son age 13 loves getting cards!

I would've loved to have seen him play. If you find the time, have you read this article? (web.archive.org/web/20140313090616/www.ethicsofchoice.com/GaWJ.html). It's an archive of an old site from someone who played with him in high school. Really good read. Comparisons to Dr. J, one player said he thought he was better than Elvin Hayes. Appreciate you writing!

Completely agree Antonio! And I used to think these were "expensive" cards. Man, if I knew where the hobby would go. Would've cut every lawn I could to load up on boxes of these (and Metal too of course)!

It was an exciting card back then for 1991. Do you remember what happened to it?

Awesome. It's a favorite of mine. Great rebound with Horace Grant looking on.

Definitely. For me, it was kind of seeing it compared to that time. Really bold of Fleer to try in 1991!

Thanks! Yeah, definitely a different time. And reminds me of how much rule changes can affect the stats.

Very different!

Love it! Thanks for writing Jason. I was a little younger, but around the same age. I had so much fun buying these early '90s sets. Hundreds of cards to try to find, and mom and dad didn't mind the price.

Rookie card

You mean Bryant Stith is your cousin? Or your cousin has his rookie card? If he's your cousin, that's awesome.

@catalogedclutter7046 He is my real cousin I have 5 of his rookie cards I think 92-93 around that time I remember watching the nuggets games and family noticed him

@@20blockrecords54 That's so cool. Thanks for writing, that's a real neat connection. I lived in Greensboro, NC for a while where he's helping coach. They think he's great, really respected for his work with UNCG.

@catalogedclutter7046 That is where most of my family is from NC some moved to NY in the 60s where I live for all my life. I remember he was coaching Virginia college few years

That's awesome. I hope at least one of yours has better corners than mine. I kind of used the light to hide it, but the one in the video is bent on the top-left corner. Still one of my favorite cards though.

Thanks! I've been enjoying going through my collection. With the hobby getting so expensive, I didn't want to forget what I already had in some of these sets I built.

That Natural Born Thrillers is awesome! That's selling high though... I remember collecting when these came out and thinking they were "expensive." If only I knew where the hobby would go. Appreciating you writing!

I'm glad someone else thinks so too. I wasn't sure if it would come through over the video, but it really was the only one, at least in Series II, that was blurry like this. I thought it was fun how it probably slipped by Topps without anyone noticing.

Thanks for the message Todd! These were new to me as well. I got that program cheap because there's actually a crease that runs into the Jordan card (can't see it on the video). But I still think it's cool to have.

Completely understand. For me, it's the year after. I think the '90-91 Hoops Jordan was my first Jordan card.

@catalogedclutter7046 That's a great one,too. Great pic. I remember going to the store and buying a bunch of packs with my allowance for like $2ish each ,going home and ripping away. Great childhood memory.

@@jeffgreer2844 Ditto here. Except I was often one season behind spending the allowance at the flea market, haha.

Completely agree, it only makes sense to call this card #5. I just think it's cool to know that card #5 in this set actually comes fourth since we're missing that Joe Smith! I completely missed him holding up the five fingers! I knew it looked a little awkward for a wave. Feel silly not realizing that! Really appreciate the comment.

@catalogedclutter7046 Which is crazy since Smith was the 1st pick lol

@@grantmartin7939 Isn't it though? Has to be a story why they skipped him. Also disappointed they skipped Damon Stoudamire in this set.

I'm curious too... Sometimes people go through old videos and try to get at least close. Someone did it with old Wilt Chamberlain footage...they at least got a good estimate for blocks per game. So far, all the resources online just leave these blank.

I don't have that Spud Webb! Wow, what an amazing photo. That's my dream to jump like that. I love how you can even see his shoes showing how much air must be beneath him. Makes a great pair with the Jordan in terms of photos. Can't afford a Jordan anymore, but would love that Spud Webb card!

Missed him, thanks for the message! Definitely, and would be great to see it again this season for three seasons in a row.

@@catalogedclutter7046 he is 100% on pace for 3 in a row. FYI James Harden has already done it (3 in a row)

@@vladzhuk You can tell I'm still living in the '90's... I'm going to change the video title so I'm not as embarrassed. Really appreciate you getting me up to date.

@@catalogedclutter7046 haha all good, i just love NBA Stats, Chris Paul :) did it as well lolz

Haha, I keep getting schooled with each reply! I changed the title to avoid any mention of a total. Seriously, thanks for writing.

Thanks Jeff! The little pieces of history, totally! Things got unaffordable for me, but there's still a lot to enjoy. I tell the story about digging into my commons one day, seeing a Danny Ferry Collector's Choice card (as common as it gets) mentioning his career-high 32-point game. Searched KZbin and had a great time watching the highlights. That showed me how much was really in my collection, even if most would call it junk wax.

I agree, I didn't submit this one. I usually don't, costs too much for me. I got this in a large lot of many cards. But at the same time, I don't put too much faith in any grading. I wouldn't dismiss a card whether in a top loader or PSA/BGS...still prefer to see the card itself. Some of my collection still in 9-card plastic pages has stayed mint. But if you're looking to sell, I hear you. Has to be PSA or BGS, I personally like the SGC slabs though.

Hahaha!!! Thanks for the comment! Completely agree, btw. Hard to beat the Rain Man for nice cards and memories.

I hear you! Grading turned into a big business, all about how many cards they can get processed. I personally don't want to pay. I have a Vince Carter missing a serial number, Beckett graded that. Recently, I feel better just enjoying my collection in regular penny sleeves and top loaders. Sucks they won't recognize your baseball errors. If they did, it helps other collectors know about them.

Thanks for the link! That's a well-researched video.

Completely agree! That's why two of my favorites are the 90-91 Fleer and 90-91 Hoops Jordan cards. Overprinted, but great photos there. I didn't know the Kobe from this set, but just looked it up. That's the beginning of a reverse slam too!

LOL! My 1948 Bowman cards are hard to beat. Felt bad using bare hands. For a laugh, check out my #41. If those edges don't get a laugh, I don't know what does. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqLHmqyNoaajm6M

That's a good idea for this card, but the set was definitely for the Naismith Hall of Fame. The 25th Anniversary mentioned on the front was from when it opened its doors in 1968. And Action Packed had a close relationship with the Naismith Hall of Fame. When they went out of business, they gave a lot of basketball inventory to the Naismith Hall of Fame to distribute. There's an episode of pawn stars where the seller found a lot of these unreleased cards....but with Bird not being there at the time, maybe Action Packed could've pointed out an alternate HOF like you mentioned! Thanks for writing!

For a future video you could research what was the first Hall of Fame in sports and who was inducted.

So hard to say with how grading is nowadays. All depends on condition and that grade. But this is one of my more valuable ones. My personal card, not graded, I wouldn't let it go for less than $40. But slabbed cards, I'd try to hold out for $80-$100 even for a PSA 8. For a PSA 9, maybe more like $160-$200. All just my opinion. I don't follow too closely because it's all outside of my price range!

Yes!! Watching so many KZbin videos, I was starting to feel like I couldn't afford anything anymore. So not true! Having a great time finally enjoying these cards.

I'm embarrassed!!! How did I not catch that... Of course, a rookie photo shoot with the cast still on. Shouldn't have missed that! I'll try to find more info on the photo shoot for the description and add some text overlay on the video. Really appreciate you writing. That info is core to the card.

Not too much. Maybe about $1 for these. Especially mine in the video since the top border is pretty rough. Always depends on condition though. If you're lucky enough to find a mint PSA 10, I've seen those top $150.

Yes!!! The Johnny Kilroy is the highlight of the '93-94 cards. I don't think I have that one. I have a set of Upper Deck SE from that season, but I'm pretty sure I'm missing that one. Always laugh when I see that photo!!!

Thanks Dan! Hoping to be a little more active soon, always nice to hear from you!

How neat is that! Do you remember if he came over specifically to play basketball and let colleges see him? Or was it for other reasons?

eBay has an advanced search where you can find prices cards actually sold for. I usually check there. This is one of my favorite cards, but the problem is, Fleer printed too many of them. The value didn't hold up. Looks like they sell from $1-$3. All depends on condition of course. Mine has white corners, so it's not valuable. Some of the mint condition ones that get graded high sell for a lot!

I really hope not! Like this card so much. Part of me thinks it might. Not sure if you saw my bad greening videos... There's a 94-95 Chris Mullin Finest that entirely light green. Lots of my '95-96 Finest rookies are rough. And a Joe Dumars card from 97-98 Topps Chrome where he is glowing like the Hulk. BUT...my Kobe and Allen Iverson rookie from this set are HOLDING UP GREAT! And most of the Kobe rookies for sale are holding up great! I've seen green ones, but really hoping these 96-97 rookies age well. Maybe the greening stops after a certain time? I've been watching, and my cards don't seem to be getting worse. Sorry, long answer... I guess in my opinion these Kobe rookies seem to be doing better than many other chromium cards. So I'm crossing my fingers that the greening stopped on these ones.

@@catalogedclutter7046 I haven’t seen the video on the greening Mullin but I’ll check it out. I appreciate your videos and format on card reviews. Keep up the good work.

Really appreciate it, cryptomamba! I'm having fun spending time with my collection. Honestly, I started to get tired browsing videos of cards I'll never afford and box breaks (can't really afford boxes anymore either). I figured I have thousands of cards that I never really sat down with. Nice to finally take some of them out.

Value Of card

Thanks!

I'm glad someone else is a fan of Action Packed! I just think the quality was a step up, really. Speaking of sweaters, take a look at the '90-91 Skybox cards in this video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4CvZI1-rbt_hrM). You can see them at the beginning, no need to watch the whole thing. But you're right, it's a whole different thing trying to wear one on the court. This Carnesecca might be the only embossed sweater in collecting though. Thanks so much for writing!

There are 0 Google results for "projected per 48 min" and endless results for "per 48 min". I've never seen "projected" on another card with 48-min averages. I understand your point, but my point is that I believe Hoops was trying to brand a stat (the Hoopstat logo) by referring to a common statistic in an uncommon way. Maybe you have another card that uses the word "projected"? But your last sentence calls for a like on this comment! Thanks for the clarification on projected statistics.

@@catalogedclutter7046 How do you think they come up with per 48 min averages for players who do not average 48 minutes. (which is all of them by the way). Well ill clue you in. They PROJECT the per 48 min average. There is literally no other method to come up with those averages. And that is the literal term for the process. The most likely reason that word is not on every card...it's obvious they are projected numbers to determine the per 48 min. "Per 48 min" is the abbreviated and also obvious thing to put. They most likely did not realize they would have to explain to someone that since not one single player actually plays 48 mins they take the minutes they do play and then PROJECT what that would be if they played 48 mins. Good lord. Google says...LOL.

@@theconscientiousperfecter I understand your point, but my point is that I believe Hoops was trying to brand a stat (the Hoopstat logo) by referring to a common statistic in an uncommon way.

Would love to see those jumbo cards! I know they exist, but never saw one yet, other than eBay. Did you get the box set, or come across them later?

@@catalogedclutter7046 last regular video I show 5 of them on this channel I’m commenting from

A legend! So glad I got this rookie years ago, even if it is almost miscut.

Definitely. I see a lot about high school mentioned on his rookie cards, but don't remember seeing that exact info before.

@catalogedclutter7046 me neither. Just out of this world, that Kobe did do that.