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@user-vy4or3mz1x
@user-vy4or3mz1x 7 сағат бұрын
Позвольте кратко изложить, что отсутствует. Я вдоволь насмеялся: без роликов Хоффмана ничего не получится. Вы можете пропустить это видео, если у вас нет роликов Хоффмана, без них вы не добьетесь результата. Вам понадобится обычный подшипник с цилиндрическими телами качения - это секрет. При шлифовании металл подвергается резанию, вызывающему пластическую деформацию, часть металла отрывается от основной массы, а часть остается. Это влияет на точность из-за преодоления предела текучести и прочности. Кроме того, учитывайте старение металла и температуру окружающей среды. Металл с различным содержанием углерода может деформироваться при температурных изменениях. Старение металла - важная тема: при шлифовке металл меняет свою геометрию из-за внутренних напряжений. Оставление металла на улице позволяет ему "успокоиться", после чего повторно снимают слой и дают снова устояться. Существует множество методов старения, которые стоит изучить. Работа со старыми станками легче, так как детали уже состарились. Также существуют квадратные шаблоны для оценки качества поверхности по количеству точек синей краски, а для тонкого снятия металла используют более мелкий скребок и метод соскабливания. Let me briefly outline what is missing. I had a good laugh: without Hoffman's rollers, nothing will work. You can skip this video if you don't have Hoffman's rollers; without them, you won't achieve results. You will need a regular bearing with cylindrical rolling elements - that's the secret. During grinding, the metal undergoes cutting, causing plastic deformation, with some metal being torn from the main mass while some remains. This affects precision due to surpassing the yield and ultimate strengths. Furthermore, consider metal aging and ambient temperature. Metal with different carbon content can deform with temperature changes. Metal aging is a crucial topic: after grinding, the metal changes its geometry due to internal stresses. Leaving the metal outside allows it to "settle," after which another layer is removed and the process is repeated. There are many aging methods worth exploring. Working with old machines is easier since the parts have already aged. Additionally, there are square templates to assess surface quality by the number of blue paint dots. For finer metal removal, a finer scraper and scraping technique are used.
@raghun4025
@raghun4025 2 күн бұрын
To calculate no. Of teeth on gear formulas???
@nowar9220
@nowar9220 4 күн бұрын
Nice straight forward no mess overview!
@God0fTime
@God0fTime 7 күн бұрын
is the code on git? , this is dope af !
@markgoogolplex2572
@markgoogolplex2572 10 күн бұрын
Excellent video on scraping. Thank you for your work!
@machsuper
@machsuper 8 күн бұрын
No worries. Glad you enjoyed it.
@rossh8608
@rossh8608 16 күн бұрын
Incredible that you didn’t give up, well done. What are your thoughts on creating a hobbyist 5axis compatible with the carvera air machine that has had a success kickstarter? Would you be interested? I think a lot more people are about to enter the machining space now that machines are more accessible, like what happened in 3D printing. My first thought without knowing much about 5-axis is the space limitations of that particular machine
@machsuper
@machsuper 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment mate. I would actually love to make some machines for sale, but I’m not at that stage just yet. Machines like the Carvera are neat little machines that would be great to learn on. Any person who has spent time in machining and given it any serious attention, I think they’ll usually outgrow these machines very quickly. The 5 axis maker is a cool product too, I’ve followed them for a long time now. They seem to have done well in the dentistry clear aligner market, other than that, I’ve not seen them around on the internet much. They’re doing well enough to survive for several years so far though, so that’s good to see. I do have my eyes set on some commercial products though, I just need to stop getting distracted with other things. 🤦‍♂️
@nitrozeus6403
@nitrozeus6403 23 күн бұрын
I would think they would use a Blanchard grinder. The large rotating disk type. With a mag chuck on a carousel.
@machsuper
@machsuper 19 күн бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a mill table with the circular grind marks of a blanchard. Mine had straight marks running the long axis. Not sure which would be better for the job, but I’ve been told they line up a bunch of them on the one big linear grinder and do them in one operation.
@martin-it4jb
@martin-it4jb Ай бұрын
Great video. Cant doge the feeling that some talking head clips look color ungraded/too grey colors. Some more contrast and saturation would be nice.
@machsuper
@machsuper 29 күн бұрын
I agree, I don’t know what I was thinking with some of the colour choices. I like the idea of a raw, high dynamic range look, but I didn’t pull it off well. I actually bought the camera hours before filming.
@nowar9220
@nowar9220 Ай бұрын
Why not pay a mold making company to make some molds out of aluminium!? And why not machine the aluminium urself!? That machine would do it fine! Take the 5 axis head off, run it as 3axis so it's more rigid, just take ur time with the aluminium if it's hard to take deep cuts. I just feel like it's sooo silly to spend 10k building a 5axis to make molds without even knowing how molds are made and what material ul be making molds out of.. Just sounds odd Great project tho!
@machsuper
@machsuper Ай бұрын
For sure it was a very dumb thing to do from that perspective. In truth, that was the reason I gave for making the machine, but the real reason was that I just wanted to try making the machine. And when the time came to use the machine for its purpose, I got bored. I really just want to make CNC machines.
@nowar9220
@nowar9220 Ай бұрын
@@machsuper I get it, I've done alot of comparably silly things also, regardless beautiful machine! And job well done!!
@user-xz7xy8yf4w
@user-xz7xy8yf4w Ай бұрын
Autism brought me here.
@machsuper
@machsuper Ай бұрын
This program brought to you by autism!
@craigywaigy4703
@craigywaigy4703 Ай бұрын
OH DEAR - Let's Scrape for scrapings sake......?! THE ONLY TIME TO SCRAPE ANY WAY/SLIDING SURFACE IS WHERE IT IS UNDER HEAVY LOAD....... This is specifically WHY eg. MILL beds are not scraped but its knee ways and column are.... Scraping is DESIGNED to retain sub-decamicron amounts of way oil IN HYDROSTATIC COMPRESSION(pockets of oil under compression(like a ball SCREW in mechanical terms, for example). .... The reason WHY MILL TABLE SURFACES AREN'T SCRAPED IS BECAUSE YOU WANT AS MUCH STATIC FRICTION(AKA GRIP) UPON ITS SURFACE UNLIKE A WAY(including it's front and rear sides) ! Sorry for being blunt, but human time and energy are precious, and when it's misguided through ignorance, then that's tragic.. BTW The referencing to "Chinese..machines." inferring cheapness, is because we're too cheap(economic means, geographical locale..) to be able to purchase new top quality equipment. If one is on YT seeking knowledge in this field, then it's a given that we are amatuers, and have amatuer(hobby) machines. Thank you China for giving MILLIONS of peeps worldwide the chance to learn and develop their skills(on amatuer machines) which we can improve as do our skills) which serve INCREDIBLY PRACTICAL AND SUSTAINABLE REASONS. Rant over - Signed. A Machine Tool Fitter/Turner(Retired).
@marklagana2769
@marklagana2769 Ай бұрын
another key point for why 2 flat surfaces being bolted together need to be flat; it may seem flat and square to the naked eye when in reality it's sitting on 3 or 4 high spots. So you tighten and commision your machine, and after some use and vibration, those high spots disappear introducing backlash and error
@marklagana2769
@marklagana2769 Ай бұрын
great video / channel btw!
@Spark-Hole
@Spark-Hole Ай бұрын
I doubt if Chinese cast iron is stable enough in long term compare to Japs one. The casting technique, Chinese always cut cost.
@dougyt261
@dougyt261 2 ай бұрын
I would think they have bad to no stress relief process it's then machined flat, then slowly moves and twists out of flat.
@jonholzworth4463
@jonholzworth4463 2 ай бұрын
I watched all of your videos on this channel tonight. Awesome content. I subscribed and hope there is more to come. And, if you every need advise regarding 3D modeling, feel free to reach out. It's what I do for a living, and I love teaching the skill to others.
@machsuper
@machsuper 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Jon! I can’t believe I’ve made videos that would draw someone in for an hour or so! What type of 3D modelling? Engineering brep or mesh modelling?
@Zebra66
@Zebra66 2 ай бұрын
If I was building my machine again I would never use steppers. If you need any sort of accuracy forget it... unless you cut super slow. I can almost guarantee that this is the source of his accuracy issues. Not the rigidity (he's cutting plastic and wood...). Looks like he's using 5mm balls screws so he'll have to run the steppers fast just to get moderate speed. Steppers have all their torque at low speed and it drops quickly as speed increases. In other words, unless you cut at a snails pace it doesn't take much to make steppers miss steps and the tool can be a mm (or more) off by the end of the job. That's a lot for molds and patterns that need to fit together. There is a ton of bad advice online but telling everyone to use steppers in forums is the worst. If you're making molds and patterns... like this guy... get servos.
@horsthacker9990
@horsthacker9990 2 ай бұрын
🤣 outro commect 😂 then i must have autism at highest level.. staying till the end and waiting for more to come at a black screen 🤪
@sharkbaitsurfer
@sharkbaitsurfer 2 ай бұрын
Guys, a termendous amount of work and effort went into that, both from the effort scraping and documenting it - really appreciate that you've shared that knowledge and information - phenomenal job! Subscription worthy!
@machsuper
@machsuper 2 ай бұрын
Cheers Sharkbait! It was a lot of work, but I loved doing it all.
@kylegoldston
@kylegoldston 2 ай бұрын
Did you try corian countertop material?
@87osvald
@87osvald 3 ай бұрын
What software did you use to animate the videos showing the toolhead?
@machsuper
@machsuper 2 ай бұрын
All done in Blender :)
@hikolanikola8775
@hikolanikola8775 3 ай бұрын
i made a moving table design, and i really have no complaints... i get the most stifnes out of that type of design...
@machsuper
@machsuper 3 ай бұрын
What did you make the chassis with?
@hikolanikola8775
@hikolanikola8775 3 ай бұрын
@@machsuper A combination of steel profiles , steel bended metal and cast aluminum whereever the rails go to reduce vibration with material combinations.
@En1Gm4A
@En1Gm4A 3 ай бұрын
Hi there, thx for the Video, one question: Why useing Steppers with Harmonic drives over servos? is this default design metric for a CNC Machnie and what Actuators where used for x y and z axis? Thx in advance
@machsuper
@machsuper 3 ай бұрын
G’day mate, I used steppers because they were cheap and I had no experience with servos. I felt safe that I wouldn’t lose steps because the gear reduction was huge. I had a safety slip mechanism built into the gearbox so if it crashed, the whole harmonic drive would slip in the housing. It worked perfectly when I crashed it one time. It bent the 8mm stainless rod that was in the spindle, but did no damage to the machine.
@Unl0gic
@Unl0gic 3 ай бұрын
Very cool animations, what software did you use to generate them?
@machsuper
@machsuper 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. I use Blender for all 3D visuals.
@jpjay1584
@jpjay1584 3 ай бұрын
what if I need an RPM of 80-500? and lots of torque. 500 is quite a lot for a harmonic drive.
@machsuper
@machsuper 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m not sure what to suggest for that other than a two-speed gearbox. Do you need the same torque at all speeds?
@jpjay1584
@jpjay1584 2 ай бұрын
more or less, yes. what I realized, I actually need is a direct drive motor. with 20Nm. so I could avoid a drive (even drives are sexy in their appearance.) its for a design project and cost is an issue. I just stumbled over torque motors and direct drive motors that don't need a gear, if the motor is strong enough. thanks for your reply. do you know about Axial Flux motors? @@machsuper
@viktorbarsukov2894
@viktorbarsukov2894 3 ай бұрын
bmw e vanos uses a Harmonic Drive, i was so surprised when i saw one in real live use.
@machsuper
@machsuper 3 ай бұрын
Oh really?! So interesting to imagine one in use in a car.
@adammontgomery7980
@adammontgomery7980 3 ай бұрын
Awesome production value! Is there a reason to scrape the top of the bed? Seems like the ground surface is just fine because you'll probably be using a vice, which is locally as flat as you need. I understand scraping the bearing surfaces for flatness and allowing the bed to ride hydrodynamically on the way lube; it just feels extra to me.
@machsuper
@machsuper 3 ай бұрын
I can think of a couple reasons. Having a surface that’s out of spec for flatness is out of spec - it’s not good enough. I don’t actually know what the variation was, but it was probably greater than 20um. Still not huge in most applications, but a bad machine is a bad base for good work. Also, without addressing that surface, you can’t be sure that it’s flat enough or that it’s stable. It might be convex and throw off readings of the flat ways. Making sure its flat would give a better surface for all the future work you do with it, and you can have confidence in it.
@mikemccormack7056
@mikemccormack7056 3 ай бұрын
Super quality production and narration! When I've seen tables like that being machined in China, they've typically had 16-24 (or more) lined up to be ground at once. Your center-right high spot might come from one of the huge grinder's own webbed table supports running directly below that part of your table.
@machsuper
@machsuper 3 ай бұрын
Cheers Mike. Very interesting suggestion on the webbing. I’d be curious to compare other tables.
@wildfox1994
@wildfox1994 3 ай бұрын
I wish I would have 10 grand at 19 to build 5 axis CNC machine
@machsuper
@machsuper 3 ай бұрын
I wish I had 10 grand at 29 to build one now 😅
@carneeki
@carneeki 3 ай бұрын
Came here (to the channel) for the harmonic drive, stayed for the scraping. As someone else who learned from Marcus it was great to see so many of these concepts again, makes me want to come back and bring my mill table next time.
@FreeMind5094
@FreeMind5094 4 ай бұрын
All of this effort,time and cost with a plastic vrnoer calipers, wow
@machsuper
@machsuper 3 ай бұрын
I know. Dumb.
@KingZeusCLE
@KingZeusCLE 4 ай бұрын
Well done. I know its not a hard one, but anyone have the model?
@KingZeusCLE
@KingZeusCLE 4 ай бұрын
Well done. Anyone have the model?
@Airtight215
@Airtight215 4 ай бұрын
1. A “pro” would never get a hobby mill, let alone a trash one. 2. No one worth their labor rate would ever even consider scraping a mill table. It’s as if you just don’t understand...
@machsuper
@machsuper 4 ай бұрын
Additionally, a pro doesn’t need to watch this video to get their work done. That’s why none are, it’s curious hobbyists, and professionals who like seeing what others are doing with machines that watch this video. It’s entertainment as much as it is education. Thanks for watching ☺️
@jacob_90s
@jacob_90s 4 ай бұрын
Superbly done.
@wingez2445
@wingez2445 4 ай бұрын
good job
@sccolbert
@sccolbert 4 ай бұрын
When you do the hinge test (what you call the "pivot" test), the hinge/pivot points should be roughly 22% away from the ends. These are the Bessel/Airy points. If your part prints blue along the whole surface, and hinges at those points, you can be reasonably sure that it is flat.
@rogeri5743
@rogeri5743 4 ай бұрын
I like you style. web style
@RealLatinGeek
@RealLatinGeek 4 ай бұрын
I most likely got this recommended from my history with machining videos but your VFX and aesthetic is stunning, and right up my alley. Beautiful stuff- I've seen proper televised documentaries with worse VFX.
@sozonpv
@sozonpv 4 ай бұрын
Awesome! What software was that animation created in?
@josephgeorge495
@josephgeorge495 4 ай бұрын
I am struggling with machine configuration, please help me
@derekrussell9925
@derekrussell9925 4 ай бұрын
Good job
@MoritzWeller
@MoritzWeller 4 ай бұрын
As someone completely new to the DIY hobby but affine to 3D visualization I can only express my highest appreciation for both the effort you put into visualizing the 5-axis concepts you implemented as well as the effort you put into the project itself. Very inspiring!
@machsuper
@machsuper 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, it’s really nice to have someone aware of the challenge appreciating the work. Gotta dream big.
@boryswwa
@boryswwa 4 ай бұрын
Even though the result of a project you made didn't turn out to be useful in the area you hoped it would be useful for, what you learnt while making it, will stay with you till the end of your life and potentially make other projects significantly more doable for you. That alone, is orders of magnitude more valuable than the machine you've made. Incredibly impressive project. While on university, I wanted to make a simple 4 DOF robot arm (kinda of what you can now buy in kits these days, but it wasn't the case back then), but thinking about the challenges that would come with kinematics ( really wanted the tool end linear movement approximation) made me abandon the project. You did that as if it was nothing, and way ore than that. Incredible skill. Congratulations!
@machsuper
@machsuper 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct. I definitely didn’t take full advantage if what I had once completed, but I am now trying to take full advantage of what I learned. Robot arms are intimidating, aren’t they? I started trying to program a 6 axis arm from scratch one time and I was gradually finding answers, but I never stuck with it long enough to see it through. Too busy. Thank you for the great comment. I’m caught up in starting a completely separate company now, but I’ve got passionate dreams about machines to build in the future that I WILL do.
@Narwaro
@Narwaro 4 ай бұрын
From building milling machines professionally: If you can - by any means - make it more rigid, make it more rigid! Make it more rigid until there is no crane that can lift it, no truck that can carry it, no servo that can move its axis, no customer that can pay for it and then back off about 15%.
@machsuper
@machsuper 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha yeah, well said. Rigidity is king in machining.
@Narwaro
@Narwaro 4 ай бұрын
Back in the day tables and slideways were usually done with a planer. Its very slow by todays standards, but probably as fast as grinding and has no tooling costs and makes flat surfaces with exceptional finishes. Youll notice planed tables by the stripes/lines in the finish
@machsuper
@machsuper 4 ай бұрын
Why do you think they stopped doing it that way?
@TerryBecker-bw1vx
@TerryBecker-bw1vx 4 ай бұрын
It's all about the journey and not so much the destination? ; )
@stevecarlisle3323
@stevecarlisle3323 4 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks. I can only hope that you are using your skills you acquired with designing 5 axis, in your day job.
@juliobynight2495
@juliobynight2495 4 ай бұрын
Respect ! came across your video, awsome work !
@JulianMakes
@JulianMakes 4 ай бұрын
just brilliant! subbed clicked the bell etc etc v v v cool man
@machsuper
@machsuper 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Julian.
@johnandersen8999
@johnandersen8999 4 ай бұрын
I've got a feeling you're going to see some channel growth real soon.