People like Tim never last. His kind of behavior is a sign of insecurity. People like Tim never have known consequences for failure. There always seemed to be a safety net to catch him and propel him into the next opportunity. People like that have a fear of success. They will get right up next to it, flirt with it, prove that they are talented, makes waves briefly...and then fade away. They might do this many, many times over. I used to be in a band with a guitar player/song writer. It was his band. He formed it, wrote most of the songs, produced the recordings, decided artistic direction, the stage look...the whole nine yards. He was brilliant, and massively talented. We built a solid following across the midwest. We played numerous showcases for major record labels. We had a publishing and production deal with a fairly big time manager. Every time we got close to signing the dotted line, he would scrap the project, change the sound of the band a little bit...put off the record companies, spend forever recording new material....and jump through all the same hoops again. He would still get us right up to the point of getting a big record deal...again...and sabotage the whole thing again. We could have been very successful, and he would have been very famous...but he would screw it up, right at the 11th hour, every single time.
@ClumsyCardboard2 күн бұрын
Whilst I'm sorry to hear you got messed around by him like that, I don't believe this is a apt summary in my opinion. How do you define success? Because that's not how he approached it. He put his ALL into everything, and didn't back down.. In fact, it was to the point that folks like Tim brewer (Just some guy, you know, only won championships with Cale Yarborough and Darrel Waltrip.. No big deal, nobody special obviously..) was annoyed with him NOT backing down enough. He gave it his all, not out of a need to create a justification to walk away from a purposefully wrecked car, but because he was an immense talented man who sometimes just didn't know the limits of a car. That's all. He was the winningest driver of 1986 for christs sake. That's from not just sheer tenacity, but good preparation too. And great feel. But above all? He wanted to prove one thing. As he says it best, "I wanted to prove to everyone that I was put on this earth to have fun.. I want to succeed at the fun department." And he did. Very much did. And his definition of fun is more than just being great in a stock car, but also just taking part in the periphery of racing in general. Including exhibition races for local short tracks. (Plenty of footage out there for stuff like that, do encourage you peep it out).
@scottrobinson97522 күн бұрын
@@ClumsyCardboard .... Never said he didn't have success. My point was that guys like him can rise to great peaks, but they never sustain. Some of his earlier successes and opportunities, came from family wealth. Had it been strictly up to him, he wouldn't have had the same opportunities. He was propelled a certain distance, through the family bank account. That doesn't diminish his obvious talent, its just a fact.
@ClumsyCardboard2 күн бұрын
@@scottrobinson9752 Ok? So his parents had money. Yes, But that was used to fund his early developing talents. Daddy's credit card didn't buy him a ride at Hendrick. Hell, I'm certain it didn't get him a spot at D.K Ulrich's operation, and he could've used the cash no doubt. And J.D Stacy already had his ill gotten gains funding his operation, so Tim's dad's money would've been no good to him. And even then, He had the chops to make it on merit and merit alone. If he had to work for the dough, he would've done so to pay up for that Sprint car ride. And about sustaining.. Did you forget the fact Tim died? 1987 would've been a real contention, if not championship victory outright. If not then, '88. Buddy holly didn't set the world on fire in the 1960s because he died in a plane crash in '59. Otherwise he would've no doubt succeeded and sustained. Sterling marlin didn't sustain after his 2002 cup title bout because of personal ailments. Otherwise that would've been his trophy. Again, it's about perspective.
@user-fu1ss4eo6c8 күн бұрын
I really appreciate the fact that Earnhardt stood up for Tim back in those closed minded days.
@ClumsyCardboard8 күн бұрын
@@user-fu1ss4eo6c They were great friends since at least ‘82. Dale knew what was actually wrong with Tim, but there was only so much he could do for him.
@mikaelbihl-matias94629 күн бұрын
The john daly of rallying 😂
@ClumsyCardboard9 күн бұрын
@@mikaelbihl-matias9462 I never thought about it that way.. pretty apt example!
@justinturley707125 күн бұрын
When you need to go to the bathroom
@oscarjimenezsr.560Ай бұрын
2001 was a tough year for Childress
@mitchcolburn1216Ай бұрын
In all fairness 1990 was the only season he had in equipment capable of winning. Whitcomb fell off and Bobby Allison Racing was never great although he did nearly win Phoenix for them. Bahari never won anything and MB2 wasn’t quite there yet.
@ClumsyCardboardАй бұрын
@@mitchcolburn1216 That’s a very valid summary. Honestly I agree, and that’s why it was unfortunately the only real chance he had at getting more than 2 wins during a season. I wish Bob Whitcomb had more cash on hand, or at least bigger sponsorship deals even on short term.
@miragef191Ай бұрын
One of my favorite drivers.
@ClumsyCardboardАй бұрын
It's hard not to like him!
@JOHANNESwhoelseАй бұрын
The career of Linus Lundqvist so far really reminds me of the early career of Paul Tracy. Let's see if his career turns out as memorable as Tracy's!
@ClumsyCardboardАй бұрын
@@JOHANNESwhoelse I certainly hope so. The current indycar series is a very good package, but personalities will help sell it even more
@Nebula_Ultra2 ай бұрын
He was also screwed by some guys. Apparently.
@gordonlitz48242 ай бұрын
Ya, how did that work out
@ClumsyCardboard2 ай бұрын
I'd say a pretty successful career all in.
@TimberWolfer632 ай бұрын
The Coors Light 40 before that car was good. What race was this anyway
@ClumsyCardboard2 ай бұрын
The 1997 Primestar 500 at Alanta. Same year that Mike skinner went full time for the first time in cup, I believe.
@TimberWolfer632 ай бұрын
@ClumsyCardboard Yeah he did. Some nice looking cars that year. Interesting drivers too
@ClumsyCardboard2 ай бұрын
@@TimberWolfer63 A true era of personalities, colourful paint schemes and characters
@saturnalis88132 ай бұрын
Teimo was cool before My Summer Car
@ClumsyCardboard2 ай бұрын
Perhaps that was the real backstory to him all along! Haha. From group B champ, to store owner!
@funboy77542 ай бұрын
dw hated richmond because he knew how good tim was
@ClumsyCardboard2 ай бұрын
DW, especially in recent years, came to appreciate the new fan base Tim brought into the sport.
@RAID3R632 ай бұрын
I honestly think robby would of kicked tonys rear end
@ClumsyCardboardАй бұрын
With all due respect to both, I also think Robby would have kicked his ass
@joshthemediocre78242 ай бұрын
I visit the cemetery where Tim is buried quite a bit in the summer months, i see his headstone more than just about anyone i'd say, i only say that bc it often reminds me to live life to the fullest, like Tim did. He was the real life Cole Trickle.
@ClumsyCardboard2 ай бұрын
He really was. Truly an inspiration for similar reasons for me personally as well. Making the most of life is a very good sentiment to take away from all this
@Moonracey12 ай бұрын
Why do you keep showing other peoples race cars while talking about Richmond? It just dont make sense. It would be very confusing to many people that isnt familiar with what they are looking at.
@ClumsyCardboard2 ай бұрын
If I did only use Tim’s race cars and footage for every single segment, it would only be a handful of clips that would be repeated. To prevent that, and to add context of both his competition and the era he competed in, occasionally you would see other people’s races, cars, and individuals. It wasn’t perfect, especially given this was my second ever video project, but nonetheless something that thankfully hasn’t been as much of an issue going forward. Hopefully that makes sense.
@phelpsmarc3 ай бұрын
The announcer is using passages from Tim's autobiograpy word for word
@ClumsyCardboard3 ай бұрын
I didn’t even realize there was a autobiography, let alone read it. Do you know where I could buy a copy?
@phelpsmarc3 ай бұрын
@@ClumsyCardboard Im sorry I meant biography - The book by David Poole. It was a really awesome and quick read.
@ClumsyCardboard3 ай бұрын
@@phelpsmarc No problem! I’ll have a look and get a copy. Thanks for letting me know!
@joshuapierce34633 ай бұрын
It had light front and heavy rear springs, got that wrong
@JC-dr8ev3 ай бұрын
Robby is a real racer, and wouldn’t conform like NASCAR requires its drivers to. NASCAR pushing people like Robby out is part of their own downfall.
@ClumsyCardboard3 ай бұрын
And always did it his way.
@AndyVanHalen4 ай бұрын
Steve Park and Jerry Nadeau were my favorites as a kid. Not sure why. I fell out of NASCAR for about 7 years due to both those guys basically having career ending injuries. Both those guys got such a raw deal in life.
@ClumsyCardboard4 ай бұрын
But they still put together some very memorable races and moments in spite of that.
@robertbulk75304 ай бұрын
Son of a bitch I loved your old man
@joeydelrio4 ай бұрын
i always thought he was kind of a scumbag having sex with women after knowing he had aids.
@Steph-T-454 ай бұрын
HERE COMES DOPE COPE
@ClumsyCardboard4 ай бұрын
Interesting how Ken squire called him "the young man from spannaway washington" back in 1990, when he was 32. That's unheard of today, but was far more common back then.
@TheMrtgamer4 ай бұрын
So, just for future reference... The Ron Hornaday truck was owned by Earnhardt, NOT RCR
@ClumsyCardboard4 ай бұрын
I had figured I might've fumbled that. Thank you for the correction!
@howardcraigiv5184 ай бұрын
Some Say …..Man when are they going to make another Nascar Movie? In my opinion NO ONE could EVER reproduce what we all witnessed with Days Of Thunder. A lot of people don’t know it but Tom Cruise is a huge NASCAR fan and was pushing for days of thunder to be made. He is really good friends with Rick Hendrick and can actually drive a Race Car pretty good. My dad use to tell me that the movie was about a real Driver and a real Pit Chief but i never knew if he was telling the truth or not. I was only 8 when that Movie was made but man was one of my favorites. I remember going to kings Dominion in Virginia and they had a Days of Thunder Attraction and i use to beg my dad to ride it over and over again. That Movie could Never be duplicate or re made. It would be ruined by todays Hollywood but thats just my opinion.
@ClumsyCardboard4 ай бұрын
I could watch it a million times, never get tired of it. I also found out recently that the ice cream on pit road scene actually happened. I think it was between Harry Hyde and Geoff bodine back then, but I could be slightly misremembering
@howardcraigiv5184 ай бұрын
That Car was so damn Fast Nascar had to Ban it lol….. I will NEVER forget watching that Race with my Father. Utter Domination on that Night out of the 24 Team. That 24 Team and 48 Team became pretty Close with Nascar’s Car inspectors and Officials lol….. Thank you for all the Great Nascar History and Great Moments that will be memorialized for a Lifetime. 1 of the best channels on KZbin that covers Nascar 💪🏻
@ClumsyCardboard4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! That’s huge praise. I’m very glad I could bring such fond memories back. Yeah, it’s insane what can be thought up by just having a slightly different outside the box look at a car package. Right now I’m mostly just covering driver history, but I am considering doing another car tech/engineering type video just like this one very soon. I hope you stick around for that as well!
@howardcraigiv5184 ай бұрын
@@ClumsyCardboard We look forward to checking the next ones out. There are Tons of great cars that could be covered thats for sure. Keep up the Amazing Work💪🏻 us Nascar fans are eating them up
@howardcraigiv5184 ай бұрын
definition of a driver with Raw talent that never could take off and have success in NASCAR. Robby could dish it out but NEVER could take it back on the Race Track when Drivers Raced him hard and tough the exact way Robby Raced the entire field. I use to always tell my Dad Robby Gordon was always sticking his nose where it didn’t belong. Dale Jr said it best. He didn’t know what he was doing out on the race track. Racing and holding up the Field while racing with the lead pack while being a lap down. Thats the type of Racing i remember out of Robby Gordon. Always just in the way he was. He was not racing to win races for his race team. He was just out there to raise hell and create chaos. Jimmy Johnson said it best it was ALWAYS someone else’s fault and he was always crying up a river like he always does. Gordon was ALWAYS a Field Filler in my opinion
@ClumsyCardboard4 ай бұрын
Spot on. I was a huge fan, but it always really bothered me that he could he never get out of his own way.
@RAID3R632 ай бұрын
Has more career wins than either of you so hard to call him a field filler
@ClumsyCardboard2 ай бұрын
@@RAID3R63 He was far from a field filler. In fact, he is one of my personal heroes. Ironically, so was Tony Stewart. So it was always an interesting experience to see those two fight it out to say the least. Generally sided with Robby though.
@frankt92884 ай бұрын
Left out his comeback race in 2002 at Darlington but ultimately extremely good video, keep up your good work!
@ClumsyCardboard4 ай бұрын
Thank you! And yes, I didn’t think about it until after uploading. But, thankfully I included the Winston open victory at the end there 😅 I have contemplated uploading that segment as a separate tribute video. If so, I’ll throw that in too. Hope you stick around! Glad you enjoyed it!
@frankt92884 ай бұрын
@@ClumsyCardboard Absolutely, great video ideas!
@WeebGilroy4 ай бұрын
11:50 that road course at Rio huh?
@ClumsyCardboard4 ай бұрын
One of the best races ever there was Greg Moore bringing it home just a year later.
@chocolatetownforever75374 ай бұрын
Tim wasa huge talent. I loved NASCAR in the 80s and 90s, and there were a lot of guys who could win at an oval event, but when the engines started in the few road races on the schedule, eighty percent of the starting grid had no shot to win because they werent very good on road courses. Tim was fast at EITHER. To me, that shows how good he truly was. Im not going to say he would have had more championships than Earnhardt, because thats silly, but one thing is for sure. Had Tim Richmond lived, he would have been VERY competitive in the 90s, and man he would have fit in great among Dale, Jeff, Mark, and all the greats that decade had in it. Kind of the anti redneck. Would have been fun to watch.
@bowmanmilner81375 ай бұрын
I loved watching Tim Richmond driving on the road courses at Riverside and Watkins Glen.
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
That must've been incredible to see in person. Did he make it look as easy in person as he did on TV?
@FredF-if4wq5 ай бұрын
Way way better then Dale. RIP you're both legends
@camschuster59475 ай бұрын
Who says race car drivers aren’t athletes! 😂
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Damn straight!
@TheSingularPatriot3 ай бұрын
Everybody poops
@athleticgeek89975 ай бұрын
The music from Daytona USA helps make this video even better!
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! It is an incredible soundtrack. Shame Daytona USA 2 cabinets are hard to come by now, but there ain’t as many arcades these days I guess.
@sametozkan91755 ай бұрын
I wish he won at Darlington as his repeat 2001 win.
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
It certainly wasn’t for a lack of trying.. but it just wasn’t meant to be. I wish it too though.
@calvinlamb85125 ай бұрын
Imagine your dad buying you a Indy car 😂
@TheMrtgamer5 ай бұрын
So when you mentioned his previous NASCAR experience before DEI: It was with Hendrick-Newman racing, which wasn't an underfunded team, but a backup team to Hendrick Motorsports and he drove the #14 Kellogg's Corn Flakes car from 1995-1997
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
That #14 was a very pretty car too.
@TheMrtgamer5 ай бұрын
@ClumsyCardboard Honestly, I thought it was kinda bland, like it was missing something... Oh, I know: colors... But the number font was 🔥 Honestly though, the #5 Kellogg's car from the same era was iconic
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
@@TheMrtgamer The #5 Absolutey was incredible looking! Forever iconic.
@gregorygolden12965 ай бұрын
Tim passed away in the hospital I was born in. GOD BLESS TIM & DALE. TWO of best there ever was.
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Lucky birth!
@gregorygolden12965 ай бұрын
Suite Case Jake my friend.
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
10-4, I was thinking of yet another crew chief legend. I've made the corrections accordingly in the description for newer viewers. Good ear though!
@danielfoster36425 ай бұрын
Nice video. Definitely worth the wait.
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the patience and support daniel! Hopefully the next one won't take as long to make haha. Glad you enjoyed!
@danielfoster36425 ай бұрын
@@ClumsyCardboard I hope so.
@ApistolWhip4u5 ай бұрын
Boost pressure??? Brother...... NASCAR doesn't use turbos.... Ain't no boost anything....
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Indycar does. That’s why I used a picture as an example. There was a LOT of clever “innovating” in other motorsports too. I am well aware NASCAR mandates naturally aspirated engines.
@thecommonsenseconservative55765 ай бұрын
Build it by the rules it still gets banned so fck it might has well break the rules
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Lord knows Ray definitely did, and encouraged a lot of other Hendrick projects to “innovate” over the years. Even before then
@anncase86735 ай бұрын
Park had all the talent necessary to be a successful Cup driver. In 1997, he actually was one of the drivers that participated in DEI's part time Cup Series effort in a rather sick looking #14 Burger King car. Hornaday and a couple other drivers ran that car too
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Yep, very true! Robby Gordon also did a start or two in it as well.
@renzo02275 ай бұрын
Beautiful video man, Salonen indeed is one of the true icons of this sport. Also, what's the song at the end of the vid?
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! He’s my absolute favourite. As for the song, unfortunately I’ve been trying to find that still.. it was part of a Nissan promo from the early 80s. Hope that helps narrow it down!
@c.d.89755 ай бұрын
Ryan preece is the best CUP driver Look at his career CUP stats after 4 full seasons Whoop whoop Go get em Ryan 🏆 🏁 💪 👏 🤪 🤸♀️🥤
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Preece is another driver with a modified background. He’s got a prosperous career ahead of him. My underdog pick for this year as well
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
What did you think of the vid?
@c.d.89755 ай бұрын
@@ClumsyCardboard you can't possibly be serious What CUP series races are you watching? How's he look today in Vegas Answer honestly
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
@@c.d.8975 He’s working his way forward. His effort is impressive week to week. That’s my honest assessment
@c.d.89755 ай бұрын
@@ClumsyCardboard LOL 😆
@rzeric5 ай бұрын
Boy that footage from riverside is crazy fast such a shame what drugs can do to a person that guy was an unbelievable driver
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
It certainly was one of the best runs at that track ever. Hell of a send off for it. But, whilst he lived in Florida for a long while, it was not drugs that ruined him. That was a false diagnosis from a very faulty doctor, who no doubt ruined NFL careers before he worked for NASCAR. Even big bill knew he messed up hiring him.
@rzeric5 ай бұрын
he died of aids from sex with many women drugs only he knows but i wouldnt be shocked...left a trail of 30 infected they say. its public record. i dont blame the doc sorry. @@ClumsyCardboard
@xavierjuno45725 ай бұрын
It's kind of amazing the legacy left behind both by Park and DEI would still exist to this day (#1 Car)
@ClumsyCardboard5 ай бұрын
Trackhouse, chastain especially, is doing that #1 justice today. I hope he wins again soon! Glen thurman did some great coverage the 1 car's recent history. Worth checking out if you're interested. Tell 'em clumsy sent ya! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bITLqZdnlphle80si=Buzi-G4UXNnMcZ-f