Ypy could've played the brant to gain 3 birds quickly
@BR4WNDO3 күн бұрын
great game! Did you consider drawing the raven with your owl first turn instead of using the empty wetland?
@FalafelWaffle812 күн бұрын
I didn't, but that certainly would have been a more efficient way to pick it up. I still would have had to lay eggs later instead of using an egg from the owl, though. Unfortunately my kingfisher play screwed that up as well, but I think both uses of the owl could have been legitimate. Thanks for the suggestion!
@BR4WNDO2 күн бұрын
@FalafelWaffle81 true, though total in two turns you would be up 1 card and 2 eggs vs 1 card and 1 egg by doing the draw with owl path. I really like the owl into pileated play that someone else mentioned as well though!
@FalafelWaffle81Күн бұрын
@@BR4WNDO I can see your point. Either way you're doing a weak action - you're either getting a net of one egg (since cuckoo would give opponent one) or you just draw one card. At the time, you wouldn't know they were going to play the Cuckoo, though, so the Snowy Owl is the more correct pick (2 eggs > 1 card).
@Carutsu3 күн бұрын
come on full wetland specialist opportunity lost
@FalafelWaffle812 күн бұрын
Bruh, I had already played the Ruff. Best I could do on that one was 3 points, which is what I got. It wasn't like I was going to hold back on putting the Ruff there based on the tiny chance I would get Wetland Specialist later lol
@Jk49erfan3 күн бұрын
Nice game! R2, was surprised with Sacred Kingfisher play. With Pileated already in hand you are going to have a good forest engine so you are going to have a lot of food. If you went Food first, you could go Snowy Owl (get egg) immediately into Pileated. You would also avoid giving him a free egg with Cuckoo. Hard to tell he is going so tuck heavy at that point, but I think Sacred is probably not worth it after R1, even with Rodentologist. Condor I thought was rushed to play. Didn't provide any benefit to get it down early. Unfortunate card draw for you whole game, especially given how many cards you saw. Opponent had a great board, so was a pretty uphill battle.
@FalafelWaffle812 күн бұрын
Yeah I recognized that after I played it. My opponent had just gotten food twice before that as well, which greatly lessened it's potential value. I only got one worm from it all game if memory serves. Should have been the owl.
@Ken_Kaniff4 күн бұрын
Holy buckets
@ultimognu_catan14 күн бұрын
Great video as always Mr waffle
@TheRealJMart15 күн бұрын
Curious why you didn't play the Finch at the end with the Yellowhammer and then play the Godwit off of that? Good game!
@FalafelWaffle8115 күн бұрын
I didn't have enough non-nectar to get down the Godwit. I could have grabbed a worm instead of a nectar on my last food action, but I would have had less food to spend on the Kea because I would have had to force down the Godwit.
@TheRealJMart15 күн бұрын
@@FalafelWaffle81 Oh duh, of course, the nectar would have gone away at the end of the round before the game end powers. Got it. Thanks.
@davidmaust141516 күн бұрын
You should've played Goldfinch b4 gaining food so u could've gained one more food
@FalafelWaffle8115 күн бұрын
Yeah I'll agree with that.
@davidmaust141516 күн бұрын
You should've gave up first round for playing storm petrol for free eggs on star nest
@FalafelWaffle8115 күн бұрын
You're wrong on this one. I didn't lose any tempo from playing the Brown Falcon first, I pushed out my Forest for the next food action, and I netted 3 points from tying the EOR vs. just one point from the egg.
@mtk5298318 күн бұрын
You also cost yourself a point because Plains Wanderer would have been 4th enclosure bird for 4 points (rather than Viti for 3)
@Carutsu18 күн бұрын
never seen food being SO impactful
@FalafelWaffle8118 күн бұрын
Yeah when nectar is involved, it doesn't happen as often, but it definitely still happens.
@Ken_Kaniff19 күн бұрын
Could've gotten another egg with the Say's Pheobe on the chipping sparrow if you played it first
@Lockeid19 күн бұрын
But then wasn't the issue not having enough food to play everything?
@Ken_Kaniff19 күн бұрын
@@Lockeidtrue whoops
@MaudlinCake18 күн бұрын
I do think no the grosbeak was the better over all play. Would have gotten more food, been another egg with phoebe, and 2 more with ecologist, might have also secured EOR
@Ken_Kaniff20 күн бұрын
Could've gotten another breeding manager point if you laid on the meadowlark instead of Robin. So close!
@FalafelWaffle8118 күн бұрын
You're totally right. I figured he would lay eggs again and I could just use that, but I was wrong. It was a dumb miss on my part, but good to keep in mind for the future. Thanks for catching.
@davidmaust141520 күн бұрын
Kingfisher was a omni, had 4 egg spots, & was star nest
@FalafelWaffle8118 күн бұрын
It didn't apply to any bonus cards or EOR goals, and was unlikely to get me much value.
@Ken_Kaniff22 күн бұрын
I would've started with the red knot instead of the goldeneye
@FalafelWaffle8118 күн бұрын
Yeah I ended up getting no value from the Goldeneye because he had the Coucal and the Quail, which sucked. Hindsight is always 20/20.
@davidmaust141522 күн бұрын
You should've tucked parie chicken as it cant b played
@FalafelWaffle8118 күн бұрын
True, but that didn't cost me any points, so I didn't think much about it. I always had plenty of useless cards to tuck.
@Jk49erfan23 күн бұрын
Huge oof in that first round, but some good draws R2. Nice game
@Veheda23 күн бұрын
Aah... another start of the day, with a new Wingspangame to watch 🎉
@Carutsu23 күн бұрын
Slower down buddy. You can always edit!
@FalafelWaffle8123 күн бұрын
Oof, but editing is such a chore! ;)
@davidmaust141527 күн бұрын
In the early part of the game, you should've just tucked the min under mane duck so not choose a good card to get rid of
@FalafelWaffle8126 күн бұрын
True - I still had plenty of opportunities to discard bad cards for eggs, food, or tuck them under the maned duck in the future.
@gwydion4427 күн бұрын
I think not getting the Snow Bunting down sooner was a mistake. You missed 4 points and 4 draws that could potentially have benifitted you. The Heron seems to have distracted you. It is a big point bird but did nothing for your engine and cost a lot of food. In the last round, you could have played the lapwing for food instead of getting food twice.
@FalafelWaffle8126 күн бұрын
Yeah I could have gotten it down instead of the Night Heron right after he put down the Hawk, but I didn't have any cards to cycle yet.
@kurtwinkelman792427 күн бұрын
Hornbill in your starting hand was a tuck card for your Bonus.
@FalafelWaffle8126 күн бұрын
Good point - that could have made it worth picking up, although the Hornbill is really tough to make work unless you have a good egg-laying engine going. In hindsight, I probably should have kept it.
@gwydion4428 күн бұрын
GG! Really nice that you divided the video into chapters. I know it's extra work but as a viewer it is so nice. Keep up the good Wingspan content ;o)
@FalafelWaffle8126 күн бұрын
Happy it helps!
@MaudlinCake29 күн бұрын
Thoughts on keeping the vulture from opening hand?
@Carutsu29 күн бұрын
Huge commitment to counteract a low chance to be played bird
@Ken_Kaniff29 күн бұрын
I think it's a good consideration since we saw them starting with a rat
@FalafelWaffle8129 күн бұрын
I hesitate to sacrifice a food to keep a mediocre bird like that if it doesn't apply to any bonus cards or EOR goals, especially on the Oceania boards where it's a lot easier to get food. It is a fair point, though, that seeing my opponent start with a rat could have justified it.
@JBurton211Ай бұрын
Got excited end of round 3 when you were going back because I though it was to use the Noisy Miner instead of skipping😂 2 points net with the tuck and egg, plus 3 more for qualifying for the end of round… costly skip!
@FalafelWaffle8129 күн бұрын
Yeah that was a big goof on my part. I overthought it and completely forgot about the EOR. It didn't end up losing me the game, but certainly didn't help.
@davidmaust1415Ай бұрын
I would've probably played the green parot in the wetlands since you needed to regularly draw cards for noisy minor to tuck and build out wetlands some
@FalafelWaffle8129 күн бұрын
Typically the Red Winged Parrot doesn't work very well in the Wetland because it's very hard to coordinate having nectar to discard before you draw cards. It's not impossible, but the Forest makes more sense because you can grab the nectar and then discard in one action.
@al12823Ай бұрын
I wonder how you would have done score wise by playing the swallow in the grassland, with the crow and Junco I feel like you didn't need to go the forest at all.
@MaudlinCakeАй бұрын
I was thinking something similar. If you pick up the towhee and crow in the same turn you can have a card cycling and two food gaining GL which is still pretty darn good.
@alexnosek1066Ай бұрын
All the early cards were screaming grassland.
@FalafelWaffle8129 күн бұрын
When I look back on it, I should have moved forward with my original plan of the Brolga Wetland and Junco Grassland. The Hummingbird in the opening tray would have been great for it as well. I'm biased against the Brolga due to it giving an opponent eggs, but it really could have worked.
@jonathanhak95Ай бұрын
Play raven, lay eggs and then play flycatcher was maybe worth it? In r4 you could then have played the Stork, roadrunner and vireo+warbler while also getting eggs points (and possible roadrunner tucks) GG anyway!
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Did I have the Stork in Round 4? I looked back through the turns and don't see it anywhere. The roadrunner definitely would have been good with Falconer, though. Good thoughts.
@jonathanhak95Ай бұрын
@@FalafelWaffle81 you played Wood Stork in R3. You could have delayed that by playing raven and flycatcher first then laying eggs a couple of times to get the food for Stork, roadrunner and vireo/warbler
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
@@jonathanhak95Ah I see now. You were talking about the Wood Stork. For some reason I was thinking White Stork. There were also two flycatchers and two ravens lol, so would help if you clarified. But I agree that that could have been a good line.
@MaudlinCakeАй бұрын
Toward end of game grabbing a split face seed meant you couldn't get a worm with indigo bunting which would have made warbler three extra points vs heron.
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Yes I should have thought ahead on the worm and predicted that my opponent wouldn't be taking any more food that game. I also should have made the connection on the Prothonotary Warbler, as mentioned above. Too much tunnel vision. Thanks for pointing out.
@tarontos9396Ай бұрын
That warbler that you picked up at the end would get you an extra 2 points thanks to nest box builder getting to score.
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Yep, I missed that. I had already written off nest box builder in my mind, but that would have gotten me 2 more points. Nice catch.
@henryd2537Ай бұрын
Love your videos! I am bit confused on how you count points of birds, why did you say killdeer is -1?
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Happy to hear it! That's factoring in the egg cost; the bird itself is worth one point, but spending two eggs on it takes away two points.
@jerryamescuaАй бұрын
Should have just taken all cards and played bonelli in forest
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Sure it's a lot of points, but it doesn't do anything for you for tempo, especially on the base boards. You need some solid, cheap brown powers to build up momentum.
@davidmaust1415Ай бұрын
Not keeping benallies eagle was a bold move I probably wouldn't have passed in especially with rodentologist as it is a 14pt bird minus egg cost
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
True - I probably would have kept it if it had been the Oceania boards, but on the base boards, you have to sacrifice too much tempo.
@Moetown64Ай бұрын
I can't believe that you beat a double raven combo in two habitats...well done!
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
I don't want to give anything away, but it certainly was a close game.
@davidthill7732Ай бұрын
Pill-ee-ay-ted
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Google it - phonetic spelling is: pai-lee-ay-tuhd, so you're right except for the first syllable. Super important. :)
@davidmaust1415Ай бұрын
Yu should've forced down the night heron so when u drew cards yu could've traded a egg for food
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Yeah I can see that. At the time, I think I was worried about the Forster's Tern getting picked up, but then I didn't even pick it up lol.
@johnpark5118Ай бұрын
You should have gone for rodentologist bonus card, which would have you gotten 5 more points than the wetland scientist. I would have put the raven in grassland, since I could still throw away a card to pick up four food. It would have given you one more point.
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Hindsight is always 20/20 lol. I could just as easily have never seen a viable rat-eater to play given what I knew at the time. However, to be fair, Rodentologist is a much better bonus card, and picking up Wetland Scientist would only make sense if I had some solid wetland-only birds ready to play, which I didn't. So I see what you're saying.
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Fair point on the Raven - I had two cards I could have discarded to get the 4 food still.
@ultimognu_catanАй бұрын
Fun game to watch! A fun idea, I'm not sure if good or not, is put the nightingale in the forest and sling nectar so your parrot always hits?
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
It's an interesting thought, but then I'm giving my opponent 2 nectar per activation - that really could hurt.
@al12823Ай бұрын
This is something I see a lot of players do - play a bird as soon as they can, not as late as they can. You could have held the skimmer until the 2nd to last turn to play. Firstly to keep it a secret from the opponent to avoid counter plays, and secondly to possibly draw a better bird from the barn swallow. As it happens you got counter played immediately, and the warbler or running the engine would have netted you more points. Also you drew the egret which could have been a last turn play with the skimmer - but I haven’t done the math on if that’s more points since you’d be spending more eggs and not tucking under the crane as much.
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more, and I need to do better with that. I know that's something that Will on Wingin' It emphasizes a lot - don't play a bird until you absolutely have to (e.g. right before you're about to activate that bird's habitat, to hit an EOR, etc.).
@al12823Ай бұрын
@@FalafelWaffle81 we all do it, it's some instinct to just wanna play the birds!
@davidmaust1415Ай бұрын
I would've left the tray alone when bad cards and stashed extra seeds to force birds down
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Could you give me an example?
@JBurton211Ай бұрын
Good game! Was surprised to see the Snowy Owl didn’t get any love at the end. Synergizes well with the Malleefowl and you could have played both while still laying eggs rather than gaining food.
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Even with the Malleefowl's egg on the Snowy Owl, it's 4 points less than the Black Noddy because I needed to spend one more egg on it. Considering it only draws one bonus card, I wasn't too optimistic that it would make up that gap. Plus the Noddy allowed me to flip the nectar race in the Wetland, which is another 6 points. Laying eggs would only get me one more point (maybe two, if I'm lucky and hit with the Owl) than my Forest action, because discarding a card to lay an extra egg would have cost me a tuck under the Ruff.
@Ken_KaniffАй бұрын
Wow what a game. I find these the most difficult when you find lots of good cards for different habitats. Although I like the route you chose, perhaps the raven could've worked out in the wetland. Maybe something to consider. GG!
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
That might have been an interesting route to try, but I'm very hesitant to put the raven in the Forest or Wetland unless I have a reliable source of eggs there; I did get some hits from the Eleonora's Falcon, but certainly not reliable. If you're having eggs pouring in from your Grassland, that can also work, but that's less frequent on Oceania boards.
@Ken_KaniffАй бұрын
Unfortunate but happens to the best of us. Thanks for still uploading
@lowfat711Ай бұрын
Wacky end game for sure, but take a breather and bounce back
@tarontos9396Ай бұрын
I'm a bit surprised you put the Nighting Gale in the wetlands when you could force him to always have a nectar for the PaRrot to duplicate
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
That is a great point. That would have been a slam dunk with those nectar races.
@VehedaАй бұрын
You really had me screaming at my screen here. A ten minute turn with no chance of playing both birds (unless he had a nectar in his supply). 😅 Good luck in the next game!
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Ha ha yeah I don't blame you. I wish I would have come to that conclusion before locking it in. It ultimately cost me 5 points. Not enough to win, but point differential is all that really matters in this series.
@davidmaust1415Ай бұрын
Even though they are expensive, the horned owl and red tailed shouldve been drawed for rodentologist especially after crow was drawn
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Yeah getting down the Horned Owl would have been two more points than the Turkey - good call.
@tonymok535Ай бұрын
I actually think that would have been better if you did house wren warbler double play round 2 instead of condo warbler.
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Yeah I can see that - the saved turn would have meant another grassland activation or another big point play, which is better than the 4 points I got from the Condor's bonus card.
@johnpark5118Ай бұрын
Agreed. It helps two round of goals.
@kurtwinkelman7924Ай бұрын
Would have kept 4 birds not goose from starting hand and picked up bee eater first round.
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
That would definitely be a viable option. The bee eater isn't as good on the Oceania boards as on the base boards, and I would already be getting worms from my Phoebe, so I don't think it's good enough to warrant spending an inefficient card turn grabbing it before getting my Phoebe down.
@ultimognu_catanАй бұрын
Very difficult game to play! On the turn you took 1 nectar in case it got stolen so you could take the nectar, if you take 2 nectar there and he steal 1 then you still end up with 1 nectar and 1 worm so I think it's always better to take both, unless you're planning not to play a bird next turn
@FalafelWaffle81Ай бұрын
Totally agree on that - I overthought it. He would steal a nectar regardless, so either way I would end up with a nectar and a worm in that case. But picking up 2 nectar gives me the chance to use them both if he doesn't steal right away.