no not really they are pretty even considering the Wing Zero has better armor, gundanium to the unicorn's gundarium not to mention the TBR's ability to fire in two directions at one time as well as being spammed while the beam magnum has a limited shot limit the Twin Buster rifle has never reached that limit not to mention if banager relies mostly on instinct it will become easy for Heero to predict his moves even without the zero system, but the even battle pretty much stops when the unicorn reaches destroy mode's time limit or it is disengaged depending on how far you take in banager's development, now I'm not saying the beam magnum isn't a threat because it is but it is not as big as a threat as everyone makes it out to be

MechaMSgundamfan It's not a matter of the TBR or the Magnum. It's the fact that the Unicorn, with the aid of it's Shield funnels can generate a Psyco Field strong enough to stop Gryphs II, which is easily more powerful than the TBR. Not only that but seeing as how Banana was able to completely master the Unicorn that 3 minuet time limit is null and void. The Zero system would show Heero many outcomes, including all the one where he loses. Banana's NewType power by the end of the series reach an almost supernatural level, magnified by the Unicorns Psycoframe.

ok first of all i know this seems silly but I don't thing banana's factor into this but yes he stopped a powerful beam by setting up three psycho fields in advance of a weapon firing that was about a thousand miles away figuratively speaking of which they has a heads up that they were going to be shot at along with a time limit from a weapon that would be fired remotely only 2 of which were under his control as the third was the banshee's psycho field so your point is moot seeing as I very highly doubt that the Unicorn would get that much preparation time in a fight against the wing zero even if this was the full armor unicorn we are talking about, I'm not saying the unicorn isn't good or that it isn't an impressive feat but that it takes a lot longer to set that up than the time it would have facing the wing zero especially with Heero in the pilot seat

MechaMSgundamfan My point is, is that it could stop the TBR by using one of it's shields. From there it's just a matter of forcing the Wing zero into fighting in close quarters by taking out the TBR, whether with the Magnum. Shield funnel, or beam saber.

Brandon VanDyke but to use the shield's psycho field you need all three otherwise you are just using an I-Field and the psycho field wasn't immediate it took a few seconds to set up and that field on its own while lessening the beam DID NOT STOP IT so at full power the unicorn would still receive damage

Marcos Lopez Technically all the gundams are super robots. Its just that while most are super robots that functions like a real machine, some would just bend the laws of physics if it needs to continue with the plot (something that the wing gundams are not even trying to hide) and then there are those that just throws logic out to the window and go 100% super robot (G gundam in a nut shell). Tho something that I dont get, is how could the Wing Zero get critically damaged by the Epyon's saber and a few rounds of buster rifles but is able to receive a shot at *point blank range* by the Libra's main cannon (which got waaaay higher output then any beam saber btw) and still go out from the beam unharmed?

***** I agree with most of what you say, but I think that the Strike Freedom and Wing Zero are on a higher tier than Nu Gundam (which is essentially an incomplete Hi-Nu Gundam). As they pretty much outguns it without any outside support, while being about as fast.

***** Tho the Wing Zero does have the Zero System which allows its pilot to see multiple possible futures, making it easier for them to prepare and counter attack their opponents movement (which is one of the things that makes the suit pretty op). The downside with the Zero system tho, is that the pilot needs high mental durability or else it would either drive them into insanity at best, or leave them brain dead at worse.

***** Well, the NTD is only noticeably powerful if it is directly used by a newtype, and even then seeing as the Wing Zero already is pretty close to the Unicorn without its Zero system, it sure could defeat it if the pilot knew every single move their opponent would make, along with also seeing which actions the pilot themselves could use to defeat Unicorn. Which is more likely to happen if the pilots of the respective ms are on the same lvl.

***** Even if great pilot skills does not equal high mental resistance, we could still compare 2 pilots who are around the same lvl in terms of skills while also having the things needed to use the devices of each respective suit. Having that said, you still need to consider that despite the NTD can be used by anyone, the user would still need the presence of a newtype (or someone/something that could give off the same frequencies as one) for it to be activated. Tho I do agree that the NTD is better than the Zero system in that its not always active while its use does not cause anywhere as much mental strain as the latter. But well, when it comes to the suit being piloted by Banagher and Heero, the outcome mostly depends on from which time we are using Banagher. Since the Wing Zero is fully capable on taking on the Unicorn with NTD if it is still just red, while Heero is a more skilled pilot than Banagher for most of the series. The only way I see the unicorn taking down the Wing Zero piloted by Heero, is if its Banagher at the end of Unicorn, but even then the Wing Zero could still possibly defeat it, as its TBS could rival a satellite cannon (albeit with a much smaller radius) while its ability to predict its opponents movements could make up for the difference in speed.