Thanks! I do them with some kind of “masking tool” in DaVinci, which requires some work but that way they don’t cover too much of the video.

@@forestdetour Yeah nice...MP orienteering uses davinci...but I am cheap and have only the free programs!!

@@johnrobertson7583 I have the free version of DaVinci! You can do a lot with that too.

@@oskarlin Kom…vadå? Jag försökte detaljstudera kompassen och kartan under bommen till 2:an, och den är inte ju inte direkt bra passad, det är som att jag undermedvetet vill inte inse hur fel ute jag är och därför ignorerar kompassen!

Det är kul att man ser att kartan inte är passad. Hög igenkänning

@@oskarlinJa vad är det som får en att plötsligt sluta använda kompassen i vissa lägen där den verkligen behöver användas!?!

Yes, every kind of mistake is possible when running a little bit too fast for your orienteering capabilities! No it was more like a parallel mistake in my head, you know when you want so much to believe that you are on the right spot that you read the map just so it will fit to the terrain around you! And yes, I paid both with actual money and with physical and emotional pain! 😅

@@forestdetour Yes, I have started to micro-orienteer a little more early on into a route choice. Oh...so kind of like most of our politicians? I finally got a video done, but need to figure out two things...quickroute doesnt let me trim the track if I forget to turn off my gps while I am at the finish gasping for air for 5 minutes...and I cant seem to get the trick of putting on screen comments in at the right time...all takes practice...you know if you learn to swear in a language no one understands...you wont have to resort to using punctuation marks for subtitles? Navaho, Swahili, Inuit, Gaelic, Hillbilly...!!!

Yes, sometimes it feels more like a comedy show than orienteering!

@@jurafevrier2012 Thank you for the feedback! And yes, I also mostly prefer the more technical routechoice with more orienteering because it’s more fun to do!

Thanks again! I like to do this editing extra things with the map, it is a bit tricky but I get to learn the editing software. 😅 These permanent controls has been around in Sweden for ages but this newer kind of thing called “Hitta ut” is maybe 10 years old and uses your phone (or printed map if you, like me, prefer that) and has become very popular outside the orienteering scene. The cluesheet is in the map or on the free printed map but I printed a limited area of the bigger map and forgot to bring the cluesheet…

Thanks! My procedure is probably not the most convenient, as I use windows “game bar” function to make screen recordings from the orienteering gps service called Livelox that akready has the maps in their database. Then I do the rest in the video editor (davinci). But I recently saw an instruction video that may help on XCJAGGES channel that uses Routegadget, maybe that can help.

Ja jag var ovanligt nära flera igår, Ravinen var duktiga på att banka ned dem, eller så är det vegetationen som är extra frodig. Ny chans idag igen!

Yes those guys sure did fool me.. This is obviously to “run straight on” too literally I guess, but…if I only could swim faster and if it wasn’t a big hill in the way, then maybe it would be a great route choice!

Yes this is a bit confusing and one of my more experimental exercises, see the full length version where I try to follow the paths in the snow from all the runners in a competition. I could see where the control had been (from my map memory).

Haha nej, jag har ett fäste på mitt batterisele!

@@forestdetour phew!

But now: Only 9 months left to jukola! Hope to do a Mikkeli comeback 16 years since last time!

Thank you, it was a viewer and club mate (Oskar) that came up with this idea increasing speed. I could increase the speed while editing, but in this video I liked to show my actual running speed.

So far, I have only been making the videos using editing software (free version of DaVinci) and use the video capturing function in windows 11 (“Game Bar”?) to record the Livelox gps track. I am curious of testing more automated solutions, have you any recommendations of Headcam orienteering software to try?

Thank you, that’s nice to hear!

Ja jag tror jag såg hans försök på Wales för några år sen om jag minns rätt? Jag har sen tidigare en 9 km rak kontroll från solsidan till björkhagen (längsta raka skogssträckan som jag lyckats uppnå i reservaten, finns på kartburken) som jag kört några somrar i rad, det får väl bli en repris i år!

@@forestdetour mäktigt! Ser fram emot det. Ja, han gjorde flera försök med Wales innan det lyckades. Jag vet inte vad det är, men jag dras till de där filmerna.

Do you use the sun in that sort of situation to also keep you on track?

@@jime2504 Good question, I was first thinking “no, only the compass and map”, but maybe I subconsciously are using the sun when it is this low and actually can be used to keeping directions. That is a good idea for a video, only using the setting sun as a compass - I have to try that sometime!

I actually held the GoPro (hero 8) in my hand all the race, the stabilization is so good I didn’t have to think much about it. But I would recommend a chest mount/harness, I bought a cheap one from Amazon that works fine. I have problems with the gpx sync software so I take screen captures from Livelox website and edit it manually in DaVinci which is probably not the easiest way.

Thx. I know the 8 is still decent…and youre right…the stabil is pretty darn good for that model…Kiziev in norway uses one…but whats crazy is people here still want $200 for one when you can get a 10 or 11 for near the same price…i paid 200 for a 10 with 2 tripods and the media frame with microphone and flipup video screen and three batteries.

I was saving energy all this race just in case I had to run away from the bear! I think the 7:th was right but the gps slightly offset?

@@forestdetour Yes that definitely happens in denser woods...maybe that patch of trees had an effect, it seemed you were underneath the shrubbery...also sampling rate of gps device...although it looked right on the rest of the time...

För mig med. Tror den slutar när live-visningen är klar.

Ok, det blev ju helt fel, premiären ska ju vara idag! Nu ändrad till 10:45. Du hinner förbereda popcornen osv.

@@forestdetour wooo

Thank you for your support!

This time, I was actually holding it with my right hand which isn’t the best alternative. It’s a GoPro 8, I like the stabilization as long as it isn’t too dark. I usually use a chest harness, a headmount or a small handheld tripod. Haven’t tried shoulder straps but it might work too.

No, I had only my small screen, no FPV headset. This was actually more of a test, and I realised it was not so easy to navigate with the screen and the map simultaneously. And combining that with flying the drone and running (mostly walking) in difficult terrain was really difficult! Not to mention the obvious risk of crashing the drone or falling while running.

It is a “spring break” in the Swedish orienteering season right now with the purpose to care for the newborn animals in the forests right now. But later in July the orienteering competition season will continue. But actually I have had some time off for a while anyway.

That might be my new goal if I make a sequel! (Christmas tray/day run 2024)

Yes orienteering is really a different thing when doing it relaxed at the computer! 😄

Tack! Ja jag fick pausa kameran för att batteriet skulle räcka i kylan så tror jag missade mötet i skogen!

Great! See you in the 10MILA forest! 👍🏽

That makes sense, I mean to be more than one person holding on to the same long stick to go as straight as possible. It also makes sense that they called it a “Swedish compass”! 😄But here in Sweden we would of course call it a “Norwegian compass”! 👍🏽

Thank you!

Yes, and the right one is a bit more demanding in the orienteering, but not for an elite orienteerer (which I’m not) that’s not a problem. I certainly have to train more uphill running!

Yes, someone who is much better at steep hills but slower on the road may benefit from choosing the right one but otherwise I guess the left is slightly faster for the most people.

But I initially thought the difference would be bigger. I’m actually walking uphill for one full minute but am only 8 seconds behind at the control.

Yes, I also think this could have been "bare rock" (gray) especially compared to the example of "Bare rock" at 18:01. But of course it depends on the level of generalization that the mapper has to make. According to ISOM2017-2 (link in description) "An area of rock covered with grass, moss or other low vegetation, shall not be shown using the bare rock symbol." Maybe the first example of the "rough open land" had more parts of grass/moss as a whole than bare rock. But my experience is that some mappers are more restrictive with the use of "bare rock" than others.

Haha, talk about confusing! I seem to mix them up…too late to change it in the video intro now. Thanks anyway for telling..

Yes, but I guess that the object looks more like a knoll from the other viewing angles than this and the mapper therefore decided to map it as a knoll instead of a boulder.

Thank you for commenting! Yes, I didn't have the control descriptions and my brain was too tired to realize the correct position so It probably had been more correct to run up on that small ridge. I use GoPro 8 Black for my orienteering running videos and on this one I had it on a headmount but mostly chestmount or handheld on a mini tripod. GoPro settings: HD1080, 30 pfs, Hypersmooth 2.0 Boost, SuperView. I edit in DaVinci Resolve with Gps map from Livelox, and when exporting from I use the "2K" settings to enable the KZbin vp09 codec.

Yes, actually it was, even though I am better at running orienteering more than this kind of “almost swim-o”!