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1:52:08 One of the rare occasions on which I have to disagree with Christopher Hitchens - the Soviet Union was aggressively anti-Orthodox before Operation Barbarossa, after which Stalin committed to a 'rapprochement' with the Church for he believed it would provide a powerful means of rallying support for the war effort. There is even a name for this prominent feature of the Bolshevik Party general line: 'Marxist-Leninist atheism'. And let's not forget that the series of 'terrors' in the USSR began with the Red Terror under Lenin, and he was by no means religious.

As a non-US person, I find two things noteworthy: E pluribus unum does not in particular refer to make many into one. But it can be read as ‚many form one‘ which means they don‘t need to converge but can stay very different. And I guess that was what originally was thought of. As you had slavery and non-slavery in one, you could even go as far as having capitalist and non-capitalist ‚states‘ or popular democratic and authoritarian ‚states‘ consolidated. 2. E pluribus unum was the uniting claim against the external forces (the British empire) at play at that time. The question is what the uniting factor is these days. The US were an answer to external pressure, not internal wish for a United States of America. Trump tries to use China and the fear of decline as this. But it‘s not really enough. And if it‘s not there, things tend to succumb to centrifugal forces. Actually, the compelling idea of the US compared to everyone else was that it didn‘t require it‘s citizens to converge and still live their lifes and make a fortune. This is why immigrants flocked into it despite all other problems. But this is even destroyed under the conservatives. The original superior idea is being dismantled. I think.

As a non-US person, I find two things noteworthy: E pluribus unum does not in particular refer to make many into one. But it can be read as ‚many form one‘ which means they don‘t need to converge but can stay very different. And I guess that was what originally was thought of. As you had slavery and non-slavery in one, you could even go as far as having capitalist and non-capitalist ‚states‘ or popular democratic and authoritarian ‚states‘ consolidated. 2. E pluribus unum was the uniting claim against the external forces (the British empire) at play at that time. The question is what the uniting factor is these days. The US were an answer to external pressure, not internal wish for a United States of America. Trump tries to use China and the fear of decline as this. But it‘s not really enough. And if it‘s not there, things tend to succumb to centrifugal forces.

0:53 They both look like they're about to enter the octagon for a fight to the death.

I guess their mother spent all the available Intelligence Points on the first one.

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I wonder ehat z could say about the last fihng ever Watch fudt he contsin in hishmshlle I would love to know

Those shoes Was their mohnkeyer

I bet He was heart broke I know i woukd be said our son who Lost his brother for a while A brother he fought and argued and tickled and used that fist on Ha ha ha ha He said Missed Hahahaha He laughed Not so funny for that brother who broke hus knuckle on the wood and not the woofs best psव णरड ज़फण bleep bleep bleep Well years passed One went away Then came home Never were there more devoted brothers Hall worse for wear So our mam said The howard one Tell him off The other ma was the in law Don't you dare touch him with a barge pole That kid is now mine So i say this Jeslous people of both sex hallways want what they can't have But they never stop trying to steal people out of families to take them in to another family qnd then Locks them in The dafter The better It's a form of terrible communism Fascism eother or But you will never see that good kid again They've turned him or her into one of them Ir shall we say They try But you kniw the heart of the mother is always there for the child and or both children As our ma said when we grew up qnd our si lings dplit their minds All stuck with dad Everyone even cousins Except for me So my turn now to be despatched as Our mum was Not by me Then dad Not by i am Our sister Not by anyone except her ex Who she never be e unmarried to her me was sue So let us say This Gorbochef is a real interesting cery much so read as are you Both brothers in

Well here we are Churched Ha ha ha Brothers There were never more devoted brothers ,,:-(

I think i am not on view much Tank again Peter for them Shoes

I'm a reader Who researched Anne believe me ear They are both twins in my head They are great brothers to each other

You can’t get better than this I have the honour of meeting Peter

Disagree on the war even though Peter Hitchens fails to make any salient points! Of course agree with Hitchens on religion.

Hitch talks of religion as if it were all the same, carrying exactly the same penalties for not being a member? This is untrue.

The West supplied Livia with the weapons to attack the Kurds & attacks by Libya on Iran were funded by the West! We knew Libya had no weapons of mass destruction because west had stopped supplying them? Talking of psychopathic, how else would you describe killing 500.000 children in Libya????

Peter gets so angry. You knew what was going to happen, buddy. Unprepared.

When they cant counter factual information with anything but their own egregious downright lies, theyll shun isolate and refuse to converse with u in a debateful forum.

The cia is way more powerful than any religion with exception of islam than christianity could ever dream of being.

Pareto Principle needs ro be taught instead of COMMUNISM AND MARXISM!

GOP is extreme? Have to be to survive. How much cooperation was there REALLY from Wilson to FDR to JFK and LBJ. NO GOP President but MAYBE Ike had both houses for more than one term until Reagan! Before then it was CAVE to the DEMS OR ELSE! ESPECIALLY ON USELESS ALPHABET SOUP AGENCIES AND BUDGETS! LIBERALS, LEFTISTS, AND PROGRESSIVES HAVE NEVER MET A "PROGRAM" THEY DIDN'T LIKE. NO MATTER THE COST AND THEY NEVER GET RID OF THEM. Obama's Congress didn't even allow debate in Committee much less the floor! In EITHER TERM! FILIBUSTER was the only option left which Dems try to get rid of EVERY TIME THEY HAVE ALL HOUSES.

We lost the wrong brother

three geatest president bar none serving the people and the idea of democracy forget all this spleen below George Washington, Abraham Lincolm FDR fought communism and fascim and won. NONE of the critics were not poor in the 30s for sure

Only one worthy Hitchens was left standing and he can talk about it today

Peter: The loss of good manners amongst us is not an argument for a God.

Peter reinventing the Hitchslap with this one.

WINNER BY DEFAULT: Peter Hitchens ( Faithful Subject Of God ) 🎉

He shares a birthday with M.Teresa, ironic.

This is all great and everything, but the questions that are NOT answered are 1) why is this happening and 2) who is to blame for it. To me, it sounds like this is on the Republicans, but why?? As much as people say the left went crazy, Haidt’s graphs show this is not the case. It’s the right that moved further right. But why? Were they just embarrassed by George Bush’s presidential record, and was Barack Obama too popular? Very curious indeed.

This stand on the Iraq war was his demise

I loved Christopher, but did he not realise we are all slaves in whichever civilization we live… taxes, and to live without the hope and be without faith is less of a life- just my opinion through experience. I do hope he came to find Jesus at the end.

Lest we forget Stalin and Hitler had been allied before the war en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact As was Italy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italo-Soviet_Pact

So many lucky people who were born in the right country, in the right century, in the right family. To believe in an imaginary friend in heaven, a Santa Claus for adults.

Where is the rest of this serIes? I am looking for his little book on FDR,: Traitor to His Class. Please look at your CLICKBAIT TITLES. It isn't fair academic practice. I'm very disappointed.

Are we supposed to forget Saddam was put into power by the US, as are a lot of Middle East tyrants? The one''s NOT put in power have been assassinated/ overthrown by the West, Libya's Gaddafi and Syria's Assad.

Churchill could have stopped the 2nd WW before it started. A pox on the drunken skunk.

Blair, war criminal, Bush, war criminal. Over one million children killed by these war mongers. A war started on false pretences, like all wars over the last 125 years.

Coming from English Literature background I had to say this debate reminds me every single minute the beauty of the language, poetry, wit, knowledge, humor and sarcasm at its finest.

Christopher of the two was the true orator and showman captivating audiences imploring them to listen to him and empathise with him.

Christopher came from the better sperm.

If there is no morality without religion, how do theists explain (just as one example) the rape of children by the clergy?

Pecker vs Dick

why such insisting on dr/prof titles? was it a joke or they need to be called that way to feel respected? i don't get it..

One of the BEST two hours I’ve ever seen.

“I don’t think it’s going to take 10 minutes to disprove the existence of God.” Christopher Hitchens ROCKS!!!!😂😂😂

Sibling rivalry - Peter seems jealous and angry that he isn't appreciated as much as his brother

Peter Hitches was a legend until he started smoking that reefer 🌿🌿🌿.

Chris' response about imperialism doesnt add up as an excuse for the Bush administrations invasion of Iraq. He admitted that the US were involved in 1968 in installing the Saddam regime. This is true, but if he admits there were IMPERIAL motives from the US, and he mentions the Saudis, then he should have the sense to follow that trace back beyond 1968, because WHY is there an imperial interest for the US there, and when did it begin? He seems naive to materialist realities involving the composition of the american energy consumtion and production and how the economy relies on fossil fuel use and its price control. The american prospecting in the Middle East began in the 1930s. They signed a deal with the Saudis in the 1940s. So it is at least since WWII that there has been a motive for the US to make sure there are ways to guarantee control and influence in the Middle East. Puppet governments is one way, but war is more efficient. The man who brought up Trotsky was confused. Mixing up Trotskys theoretical writings with Stalins actions (and salting the figures with various causes of death, but I wont defend Stalin so nevermind). The first thing to know about Trotsky is that he was stalinisms biggest critic. The fact that they killed priests during the revolution, before Stalin rose to power, is perfectly logical since the orthodox russian church refused to give up power, and Stalin betrayed the communist reasoning for getting rid of the church, so that he could guarantee gaining power. And today Russia a totalitarian conservative regime. So it is not a viable example.

Christopher was such a charismatic debater.