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@ahavahyisrael 25 күн бұрын
Jews have always known these are marks for vocal incantations. They words have been chanted like this for many centuries
@MichaelJustGreat 3 ай бұрын
(NO SHOUTING) AT 240P, THIS VIDEO IS UNWATCHABLE ON MY MONITOR!!!
@timdunnigan7107 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing a peek into this dimension of His revelation. There is a hunger to explore whatever He has revealed in all forms, the musical level might be one of the more powerful given the straight to the core manner of comm. There will be a song that only the Redeemed can sing, what a special experience that will be.
@lorenaflores8957 6 ай бұрын
So lucky! Do they still perform this there? I’d love to go to concert someday.
@southgeorgiaswingers1209 7 ай бұрын
QSL 5/30/24. Very interesting. I wish I was more musically inclined. Thank you Rex.
@tomblanchard4401 8 ай бұрын
My wife and I were present that evening in Paris for the premiere of the Song of Solomon. It was an incredible experience!
@alexschmidt9050 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@FriendllyAK47 8 ай бұрын
Would like to hear how she got this? It seems like a self fulfilling construct.
@RememberGodHolyBible 8 ай бұрын
I iuſt learned of this woꝛk to day. I was ſaued by Ieſus in 2016. I can ſay this whole thing is definitely a ſcam. I came out of the new age when I got ſaued, ſo I can recognize the hand wauing of magicke to deceiue people. This hath that. Where is the pꝛoof oꝛ reaſoning that theſe ſcales were vſed and that theſe ſymbols indicate theſe ſpecific pitches ?Pſalmodia, Pꝛoſodia, where art thou euen getting theſe things from, what hath that to do with anything, oꝛ the ſymbols wꝛitten in the Maſoretic text ? Where is any notion of iuſt oꝛ diuiſiue tuning as oppoſſed to Pythagoꝛean? I haue liſtened to a few pꝛeſentations on this ſubiect now, and no one toucheth theſe topics with a tenne foot pole. And euen the ſcales in this pꝛeſentation are different than the one in the other pꝛeſentations I watched. The other pꝛeſentations I watched had a Phꝛygian #3 ſcale, now here in this video, thou haſt a regular diatonic Phꝛygian and a harmonic minoꝛ ſcale. The woꝛſt part about this is reading the comments vnder theſe videos where euery one is iuſt eating all this vp as fact, though no euidence is pꝛeſented, iuſt baſeleſſe aſſertions. The Goſpel that ſaueth and how to be ſaued accoꝛding to the woꝛd of God : "1 MOꝛeouer bꝛethꝛen , I declare vnto you the Goſpel which I pꝛeached vnto you, which alſo you haue receiued,and wherein yee ſtand. 2 By which also yee are ſaued , if yee keepe in memoꝛie what I pꝛeached vnto you , vnleſſe yee haue beleeued in vaine. 3 Foꝛ I deliuered vnto you firſt of all , that which I alſo receiued , how that Chꝛiſt died for our ſinnes accoꝛding to the Scriptures : 4 And that he was buried,and that he roſe againe the third day accoꝛding to the Scriptures." - 1 Coꝛinthians 15:1-4 Holy Bible 1611 "9 That if thou ſhalt confeſſe with thy mouth the Loꝛd Ieſus , and ſhalt beleeue in thine heart , that God hath raiſed him from the dead , thou ſhalt be ſaued. 10 Foꝛ with the heart man beleeueth vnto righteouſneſſe,and with the mouth confeſſion is made vnto ſaluation. 11 Foꝛ the Scripture ſaith, Whoſoeuer beleeueth on him , ſhall not bee aſhamed. 12 Foꝛ there is no difference betweene the Iew and the Greeke : foꝛ the ſame Loꝛd ouer all, is rich vnto all, that call vpon him. 13 Foꝛ whoſoeuer ſhall call vpon the Name of the Loꝛd,ſhall be ſaued." - Romanes 10:9-13 Holy Bible 1611
@rtoguidver3651 8 ай бұрын
Now find the Vowel's to YHWH.
@Wataru-w8c 8 ай бұрын
We still couldn't pronounce it even if we knew it. 😂 His name is breath of life.
@rtoguidver3651 8 ай бұрын
@@Wataru-w8c I agree with Breath of Life that some people call Holy Spirit = Kodesh Ruach ... The High Priest spoke God's name on the Day of Atonement in the Holy of Holies once a year. Exodus 34:14 “For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:”
@ahavahyisrael 25 күн бұрын
The vowels are written in every prayer book. But we don't say them.
@rtoguidver3651 25 күн бұрын
@@ahavahyisrael What are the vowels ? All I see YHWH.?
@DNeck9 9 ай бұрын
4/1/24, Very cool!
@aggabus Жыл бұрын
5:07 20 signs no 22 letters
@Nehmi Жыл бұрын
the 20 signs are accent marks, not the 22 letters
@aggabus Жыл бұрын
Farya farja does a similar treatment as thee He talks your language
@aggabus Жыл бұрын
4:07 naughty
@johnhenrywheeler6656 Жыл бұрын
No, "knottiest". I was quoting a musicologist. I didn't pronounce the word very clearly. :)
@aggabus Жыл бұрын
@@johnhenrywheeler6656 knottiest ,, complicated changey varied difficult ??
@johnhenrywheeler6656 Жыл бұрын
@@aggabus Difficult to untangle, like the legendary Gordian's knot. The problem was a false assumption as to the primary function of the accents.
@adventureunderground2234 Жыл бұрын
Would love to be able to buy the sheet music to all this. So awesome.
@brightbite Жыл бұрын
Exactly, where do we even find this recording?? It's NOWHERE.
@lorenaflores8957 6 ай бұрын
I’m sure they’ve hidden it. I can tell you without a doubt it is POWERFUL. I had a demon manifest just listening to it and that’s never happened to me before with a song.
@ahavahyisrael 25 күн бұрын
It's all in every Torah scroll
@aggabus 2 жыл бұрын
1:47; she say 20 She talk about Ezra time Vowel and other mark
@aggabus 2 жыл бұрын
Sub (view) count broke?
@aggabus 2 жыл бұрын
22 letters The Hebrew alphabet has 22 letters. It does not have case. Five letters have different forms when used at the end of a word. Hebrew is written from right to left.
@joshyam4026 5 ай бұрын
The Masorah text contains 1) Hebrew alphabet <consonants>;2) niqqudah <vowel marks>; 3) "cantillation marks" or Taamim טעמים Suzanne Haïk Vantoura proposed an integrated deciphering solution to the Taamim, put upper and lower of the alphabet.
@aggabus 2 жыл бұрын
2 temple or first
@johnhenrywheeler6656 Жыл бұрын
Both.
@aggabus Жыл бұрын
@@johnhenrywheeler6656 We tried the chords I did a chordify( you know what that is)? I think accurate. Well we could not get a familiar sound. Is cadence in this writ.. Maybe our timing Is bad. However Chords don't fit Unable get a good sound
@nathanhammontree3834 2 жыл бұрын
Hey John! Thank you for this incredible presentation. This is all new to me, so I am trying to do my best to understand. My first question would be, what was the process of translating this into European style notation? Is it possible that European influence played a part in interpreting notation and perhaps skewed the original musical intent in favor of our modern system? Again, I want to clarify that I know nothing about this and am asking with a sincerely humble heart. This is coming from curiosity, not skepticism or accusation. I also recognize that much of this I'm sure is explained in great detail in Suzanne's works. I just have not been able to get a book yet. Excited to learn more about this, and would love more videos. Blessings!
@johnhenrywheeler6656 Жыл бұрын
Good, honest questions! First, the video originally came from here: www.youtube.com/@themusicofthebiblerevealed1618 Europeans did not invent either the diatonic scale or hierarchical tonality. We see both in ancient Egypt, for example (although Egypt apparently preferred the pentatonic scale, but again with a view to hierarchical tonality). We KNOW that the accents form a very rigid hierarchy, which implies tonal music (i.e., music "we" would understand) one way or another. As for the rest, the Hebrew verbal syntax was the "virtual bilingual" by which the syntax of the accents was deciphered. The process is detailed more in SHV's English book, which should be on Google Books or at Internet Archive or both.
@johnhenrywheeler6656 Жыл бұрын
Here is how the Egyptian pentatonic scale went (based on cheironomy, pentatonic, and yet with a hierarchy revolving around the 1st and 5th, and used to produce both melody and harmony): kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5Dai4Vji5yNrqs
@johnhenrywheeler6656 Жыл бұрын
And here is the 22-degree scale which I reconstructed for the accompaniment of the Song of the Ark in 1 Chronicles 15-16: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hojHiX5vd5mppac
@nathanhammontree3834 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhenrywheeler6656 Thank you for these responses!
@nathanhammontree3834 Жыл бұрын
Got a digital copy of the book today - reading your preface and excited to dig in!
@rightclick7266 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the "revealed" music of the bible should have such a modern European influence.
@MrHenhei 2 жыл бұрын
Could be the other way round?
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony 8 ай бұрын
Because Suzanne Haïk-Vantoura’s conclusions are probably wrong. It’s more than likely that she misinterpreted melodic fragments in the text for scale tones. She decided that the Phrygian Dominant scale was the “biblical scale”. I highly doubt it. Although this scale has its roots in the Middle East and Spain, and it’s the scale used in Hava Nagila, it’s a western 7-note tonal scale. Ancient middle eastern singing used a lot of microtonal intervals, which this scale has none. Many music historians rejected her findings for several reasons, most of all that she misunderstood what the marking meant, and she didn’t take into account ancient Babylonian and Palestinian music systems.
@jsamc 8 ай бұрын
@@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZmVfKp7rMalpcUsi=QrvXHNQY1mhGLUjl. I hope ur wrong.
@jsamc 3 жыл бұрын
so few views
@johnhenrywheeler6656 3 жыл бұрын
I was the editor and co-publisher of SHV's English book. My new KZbin page is here: kzbin.info/door/tt7fUa44hznWrEVQaBMCEA .
@TheGreatPyramid 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@logicaredux5205 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful!
@ElarKun 3 жыл бұрын
Is that presentation possible to download somewhere?
@johnhenrywheeler6656 2 жыл бұрын
Look up the channel "The Music of the Bible Revealed" (it has a white label with French text), This is my other channel.
@ElarKun 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhenrywheeler6656 thank You for reply! I managed to find resources I needed for my Bachelor degree work in which I described music of the Psalms mainly based on Mrs Haïk-Vantoura's work.
@WilliamJMRobson 9 ай бұрын
@@ElarKunwould love to read your work!
@mentalcompassno1 6 жыл бұрын
What if we used the 432hz standard tuning?
@johnhenrywheeler6656 2 жыл бұрын
That may fit better what Josephus said about the length of the silver trumpet (implied pitch E 648Hz),
@johnhenrywheeler6656 Жыл бұрын
It works better that way IMHO. As it happens, that would be the pitch approximated by the silver trumpets as Josephus describes them (E = close to 648hz). Here is a "test file" of Psalms 98 with that tuning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZXZeZSpftmVd5Y
@aggabus Жыл бұрын
@@johnhenrywheeler6656 both a 3 day and also a 1 year reply to 4year comment .
@johnhenrywheeler6656 Жыл бұрын
@@aggabus And you are keeping score because...? LOL :)
@aggabus Жыл бұрын
@@johnhenrywheeler6656 keeping notice ..aye.. I have had a 7year later reply to a commi
@AndersErichsen-rr7vs 7 жыл бұрын
This is all good and all... but were to find the music?
@webley08 6 жыл бұрын
drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ITgN7hnWmNQnU1OUVObHBCRjQ/edit
@whashdan 5 жыл бұрын
@@webley08 Thank you SO much!
@whashdan 5 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to have Vol. 2? I am looking for the Isaiah part...
@TomMurphy28 Жыл бұрын
@@webley08 I would love to pick your brain. Are you in social media? If not, how can I reach out to you?
@lorenaflores8957 6 ай бұрын
@@webley08Thank you so much! where did you find this?