SCRTD - 1980s - "Bus Rapping"
13:21
21 күн бұрын
LACTC - 1988 - "The Reach of Rail"
14:57
LACMTA - 2003 - "Electric Trains"
0:28
LACMTA - 2003 - "Bike Paths"
0:28
10 жыл бұрын
LACMTA - 2003 - "Clean Air Buses"
0:29
LACMTA - 2003 - "Carpool Lanes"
0:28
10 жыл бұрын
(2003) "Metro Rapid Part 2" - LACMTA
0:28
(2003) "Metro Rapid Part 1" - LACMTA
0:28
LACMTA - "Gold Line" - 2003
0:42
10 жыл бұрын
SCRTD - 1991 - "Your New RTD"
0:40
10 жыл бұрын
LACMTA - 1995 - "Opening of Gateway"
25:15
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@mrxman581
@mrxman581 17 күн бұрын
Great historical footage. I remember all of this. Was 30 when the Blue line opened.
@tekrocker
@tekrocker 19 күн бұрын
They're all worried about the environment as they all gleefully hop on The Number of the Beast bus (666). They've been pushing this propaganda for a very long time and now the hippies are running this country into a garbage heap!!
@nielsdaemen
@nielsdaemen 19 күн бұрын
Why does the quality look like 1950!
@davidtosh7200
@davidtosh7200 19 күн бұрын
I have seen Flxible transit busses. It is Flexible without an “E” between an L and an X.
@uncleshark1103
@uncleshark1103 19 күн бұрын
Never made it to how the bus works. Too much hippie jargon.
@roboko6618
@roboko6618 20 күн бұрын
We don't see Steam Buses everywhere now, so they mustn't have succeeded - I wonder why?
@michaelbenardo5695
@michaelbenardo5695 20 күн бұрын
Oakland - the city across the bay from my city, San Francisco. How I remember.
@michaelbenardo5695
@michaelbenardo5695 20 күн бұрын
I remember that very well. Some laugh about it today, but at least they were trying do do SOMETHING, and they weren't trying to take away our personal mobility to do it.
@Madness832
@Madness832 20 күн бұрын
Steam-powered Fishbowl #666!👹💨
@emmanuelgoldstein1918
@emmanuelgoldstein1918 20 күн бұрын
And it went nowhere. Another taxpayer's money grab pipe-dream. It would only cleanly work if each bus had a miniature nuclear reactor to boil the water. And guess what? Currently, fossil fuel technology and infrastructure, and in the intervening 52 years has been the predominant mode of transportation. Just another piece of film history to show that 'hippies' are always wrong regardless of the century or whatever they call themselves curently.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 20 күн бұрын
Smog kills you . CO2 kills your great grandkids if they are dumb enough not to move … And the model is actually right this time . The 1970’s model had us freezing in an ice age …..
@LamorindaMarketing
@LamorindaMarketing 21 күн бұрын
Wow... thanks for sharing... BTW those be my legs at 17:07.... really... my summer job back then... darn overalls were never long enough.. great to see Bob, Jim, Carl, Fran and WMB
@Sohave
@Sohave 21 күн бұрын
Meanwhile Trolley bus and Tram lines were closed down.
@ViewsFromJames
@ViewsFromJames 21 күн бұрын
A miss opportunity with the Hollywood Bowl Station! Hopefully we will get the K line into Fairfax/ West Hollywood by 2045.
@darleytransportandtravel6353
@darleytransportandtravel6353 21 күн бұрын
Wonderful archive film. Pity the sound is so thin.
@frankdenardo8684
@frankdenardo8684 21 күн бұрын
This documentary was made in 1972.
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 20 күн бұрын
Probably a 16mm optical sound print that has not aged well. The first thing to go is some colours.
@celebrityrog
@celebrityrog 21 күн бұрын
Yeah, because STEAM power is clean? It requires dry coal, which is costly, environmentally destructive and deadly. What a shit idea this was.
@evanriddle1614
@evanriddle1614 21 күн бұрын
I'm addition zinc air batteries were used in Las Vegas buses and also by the German post office. Dates for this about 20 years after this. Steam is hoss with plenty of torque for such applications as this.
@lacountytransitrailfan
@lacountytransitrailfan 21 күн бұрын
Before the P3010 Kinkisharyos took over the Blue Line, the P865 Nippon Sharyos took over the Blue Line
@OKFrax-ys2op
@OKFrax-ys2op 22 күн бұрын
Dobble did a steam bus back in the 1930’s
@TheFamousRleon
@TheFamousRleon 22 күн бұрын
Back when the Metro Blue Line was in its golden age. 😊
@mrxman581
@mrxman581 17 күн бұрын
No, the Blue, now A line, has never looked better today. It's become the most used line on LA Metro surpassing the B subway line in 2024. It's also now the longest LRT line in the world. If anything, it's in the midst of it's golden era now.
@kenfrank2730
@kenfrank2730 10 күн бұрын
Yeah, the golden age when homeless people didn't sleep on trains and crime was very low.
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 22 күн бұрын
Bill Brobeck was a superb mechanical engineer who spent most of his career designing particle accelerators at the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory. Prominent among these was the Bevatron, where the antiproton was first generated. He died in 1998. William P. ("Bill") Lear was not an engineer. He was a business tycoon that never finished high school. He was widely regarded as a visionary genius and was the Elon Musk of his time. But he was neither of those (and neither is Musk). Bill Lear simply hired people to work on his concepts and didn't treat many of them very well. The Lear steam project was conducted at Stead Airport in Reno, NV. As the film states, it used a steam turbine as the motive element. The working fluid was regarded as proprietary and dubbed "Learium" in press releases. I suspect that it was just deionized water. The bus had extensive operational difficulties with high pressure steam that led to rather poor reliability. I think Bill had given up on this program long before it was over, preferring to spend his time at the craps table in Reno (usually at the Holiday). I knew Moya Lear (Bill's wife). She was a delightful woman.
@kevinamundsen7646
@kevinamundsen7646 20 күн бұрын
When I saw Bill Lear's poodle following him around, that said it all. There are a large number of brilliant retired scientists and engineers from the LBL (or Rad Lab) and its descendant, LLNL who were true geniuses of their day, now growing old and gray but still full of life and incredible smarts. And there are plenty of wealthy tycoons who hire them and crack the whips of progress. Regarding Learium, any good water chemist in the utility industry could detail the pros and cons of every possible additive. I've used deionized water in a megawatt-class steam plant but it is called "hungry water," it attracts metal ions and must be run through a resin bed or replaced regularly. And it freezes, not good in New York or Chicago. And god forbid you accidentally introduce any sodium chloride (resin bed cleaner) which dissolves the piping, or bacteria into the system, which quickly fouls it. Deionized water is apparently not the slightest bit antimicrobial. In the video, it wasn't mentioned what was used for a steam accumulator and there wasn't much room for one. For a vehicle application, rapid control of a variable firing rate is essential for the boiler. Unfortunately without a steady-state firing, boiler combustion can be incomplete, requiring jets of steam to periodically blast away soot which forms on the boiler tubes and the process exhausts black smoke, especially with liquid fuels. Single-stage turbines like the one shown are of relatively low efficiency. The piston version might have been longer-lived and lower cost, but of much heavier weight. It would be possible to build this bus today, with microprocessor control and multistage turbine, but the money and motivation just isn't there. One of the biggest challenges for public transport today is how to prevent violence and the use of firearms, and maintaining public confidence. Clean air takes a back seat to those needs.
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 22 күн бұрын
Too bad only party of the system has been built to date and it's split between train types which makes transfers annoying and slow... However I'd still love to see more subway, LRT and YES even trams make their way back to all parts of Southern California.. Revive all the Yellow and Red lines please for the same reason as before... They might be "loss leaders" but they help revive real estate projects and Transit Oriented Developments that need proper mass transit to make them work... And FFS, add affordable housing! The only type of housing that there NEVER seems to be enough of...
@colincampbell7027
@colincampbell7027 22 күн бұрын
This is the Doble car. Check out Jay Lenos Garage and see his Dobles and driving them. Incredible.
@nikerailfanningttm9046
@nikerailfanningttm9046 22 күн бұрын
2:00 *this truly is a 4472 moment.*
@MichaelJantzen42
@MichaelJantzen42 22 күн бұрын
26:31 🤘🤘
@maws
@maws 22 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm gonna need a YTP of this immediately
@ncascadehiker
@ncascadehiker 22 күн бұрын
23:31 Did great on the emissions test.
@emp482
@emp482 22 күн бұрын
One of those boring projector movies we would watch in science class while trying not to fall asleep!😂😂
@OKFrax-ys2op
@OKFrax-ys2op 22 күн бұрын
Not to worry, you won’t be graded.
@user-do5zk6jh1k
@user-do5zk6jh1k 23 күн бұрын
This bus was invented by Bill Lear Inventer of the Learjet
@becconvideo
@becconvideo 23 күн бұрын
And the 8track cardrige.
@eva.cassidy
@eva.cassidy 22 күн бұрын
Sadly the coach didn't have an 8 track player!
@wasabichimera
@wasabichimera 23 күн бұрын
The soundtrack is the star.
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 23 күн бұрын
Number 666 has the standard GM New Look front trim rather than the redesigned one GM made for their own turbine-powered prototype. Weirdly that front trim wasn't put in production as a much-needed midcycle facelift or even an alternate (Chevrolet?) version. Number 6200 is a Flxible.
@MrSoundman1955
@MrSoundman1955 23 күн бұрын
What is the fuel creating the steam? The efficiency of the steam locomotive has been given as 11 percent and that of the electric locomotive as about 20 percent. Neither value compares favorably with the 28 percent estimated for diesel locomotives So was the bus still burning oil? Or was there a little guy at the back shovelling coal?
@6killer426
@6killer426 23 күн бұрын
There was a little dude injecting hemp oil
@eva.cassidy
@eva.cassidy 22 күн бұрын
Thought it was being pushed by the Union Pacific 4014!
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 22 күн бұрын
The thermal efficiency of the steam locomotive is so poor because it lacked a condenser for the expanded steam. It just used the steam exhaust to create a draft for the firebox. Then it was released to the atmosphere.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 21 күн бұрын
They burned diesel fuel, but because the combustion was premixed and occurred at atmospheric pressure, it produced very low hydrocarbons, low carbon monoxide, low particulates, and low NOx. Probably almost idenitical to an oil furnace burner.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 21 күн бұрын
​@@MrShobarI wonder what the condensing pressure/temperature was on these. Most condensing locomotives didn't use condensers for added efficiency, only to improve water economy. Many of them suffered an efficiency loss due to high condensning pressure and the difficulty of getting sufficient condesing surface area.
@kevinamundsen7646
@kevinamundsen7646 23 күн бұрын
Lots to see and hear. The groove track, sounding like "Spirit In The Sky" catches hold and carries you safely all the way to the end. Both the milling machine operator and test bus driver have lit cigarettes dangling from their lips, that's the way it was! Sadly, our country continued on with the smoke-belching, road-oiling Detroit Diesel 6V92s and other members of their 2-stroke family many years after that. The typical GM city bus had a folded 2-speed transmission that was anything but efficient. Many hours riding those. In 1998 our crew developed the first Blue Bird hybrid diesel-electric school bus at Solectria in Woburn, Mass. Glad to see more progress over the years. Thanks for posting this wonderful blast from the past!
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 23 күн бұрын
It's almost surprising they didn't at least offer a big-block Chevy running on LPG or CNG with a THM400.
@6killer426
@6killer426 23 күн бұрын
@@nlpntcouldn’t carry enough LPG or CNG to make it across town with passengers
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 21 күн бұрын
Kevin, I was in NYC, Queens when the Solectria Sunrise made the record breaking Boston to Ny trip on one charge . Prof Wouk , the Novelists brother Organized it .hr was prof at NYU and apioneer!
@kevinamundsen7646
@kevinamundsen7646 21 күн бұрын
@@josephpadula2283 So wonderful you remember the event, which almost didn't happen! The Solectrians worked hard for long hours to promote alternative transportation. On the night before the event, the Sunrise developed an electrical problem and it was midnight before it was all back together. With no opportunity for a test drive, John Rogers drove it while indoors, back and forth 10 feet and proclaimed it was fine. We crossed our fingers and went home. Soon the morning crew arrived and took the Sunrise to downtown Boston for the big sendoff. Solectria's founder James Worden was not a man with a lot of time for trips to New York, and they didn't do a dry run. As a result, James got lost twice on the way to the Big Apple but still arrived. A camera crew followed him all the way to document the event and prove their was no cheating. When the Sunrise arrived back in Woburn, there was chuckling how the Brusa NLG level-one charger would take no less than two and a half days to fill the Nickel-Metal Hydride batteries which cost a tenth of a million dollars. The newly-developed batteries didn't even belong to us, they were on loan from the manufacturer. There was another chuckle about the network television interview on a Manhattan street corner, James lifted up a display model of the car's motor and transaxle using only his bare hands. He made it look easy, and it was, partly because the heavy induction rotor and steel gears had been removed from the inside. Not so much to make it lighter, but so the costly parts could be used in another car and not wasted on a static display.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 21 күн бұрын
@@kevinamundsen7646 Thank you for the history . Yes they were very late and we figured something had gone wrong . Who killed the electric car movie has the inventor of the NiMh battery that lent the batteries telling of him getting in trouble for doing it . I loved that car . I lost all my money in a company called phoenix motor car . We got so close we crash tested cars ! Then the investors had more stick than founders and Angeles and bankrupted the company . The next company was Tesla …..
@cybervision_1
@cybervision_1 23 күн бұрын
25:36 Bus number 666, very creepy.
@alexhajnal107
@alexhajnal107 23 күн бұрын
It's just a number.
@cybervision_1
@cybervision_1 23 күн бұрын
Joe Biden says he invented the steam bus.
@BrandonLetgo-qc3uh
@BrandonLetgo-qc3uh 23 күн бұрын
Make steam great again. Oh wait, that was 1972. I was in junior high. Guess it just didn't work out. Apparently Elon musk had a better idea.
@6killer426
@6killer426 23 күн бұрын
Actually the Brobeck Bus was quite successful and used in San Fagscrisco for quite a length of time. It used proven Doble steam technology and was as close to zero emissions as you can get with a combustion engine, the emissions being a little CO2 & water vapor.
@BrandonLetgo-qc3uh
@BrandonLetgo-qc3uh 23 күн бұрын
Make steam great again. Oh wait, that was 1972. I was in junior high. Guess it just didn't work out. Apparently Elon musk had a better idea.
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 22 күн бұрын
"...Apparently Elon musk had a better idea..." And that was?
@OKFrax-ys2op
@OKFrax-ys2op 22 күн бұрын
@@MrShobarcomparing your paycheck to his? Well than? 🤔🧨💥🫨🫨🫨😂🤣😅
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 21 күн бұрын
@@OKFrax-ys2op Musk promptly dissipated billions of dollars of value in Twitter when he took over. An unparalleled achievement in financial destruction.
@tandemcompound2
@tandemcompound2 23 күн бұрын
People worried about air quality--meanwhile everyone has a cigarette hanging out of their mouth.
@CONCERTMANchicago
@CONCERTMANchicago 23 күн бұрын
Got a smoke?
@colincampbell7027
@colincampbell7027 22 күн бұрын
Hey tandem, remember this! More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette. And don't you forget it!!
@OKFrax-ys2op
@OKFrax-ys2op 22 күн бұрын
😂
@darleytransportandtravel6353
@darleytransportandtravel6353 21 күн бұрын
I love the smell of tobacco smoke.
@alec4672
@alec4672 21 күн бұрын
Everyone? Not the children with the cutely still developing lungs.
@chrishultgren777
@chrishultgren777 23 күн бұрын
lots of old steam engineers back then from the railroads. Not many left now.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 22 күн бұрын
Sadly yes. Here in the UK there is the persevered steam ship Shieldhall. I remember back in the day many of engine room volunteers actually came from the electricity generating board as it was the only pool of steam experience locally.
@shawnjosey8203
@shawnjosey8203 22 күн бұрын
Most all of your power plants still run on steam. There are a lot of steam engineers left. Siemens Westinghouse, General Electric, are all still building steam equipment until this day. Not to mention the navy ships that run off steam. It’s not common knowledge anymore but it’s far from lost knowledge. I know this because I am a steam turbine technician. 😅
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 22 күн бұрын
@@shawnjosey8203 I was involved with Shieldhall 20 years ago. I don't know who manages the engine spaces now. So back in the day......... I really pissy little comments that say fuck all. Bore off.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 20 күн бұрын
Sorry to say no more Navy ships are steam except the Nuclear carriers and subs ! The Last Navy ship I know of was the Ponce and it had Civilian engineers running the steam plant !!! There may be one or two more but the boiler rate BT was limited a decade or more ago . Gas turbines for warships Diesel engines for Auxiliary type ships .
@mrxman581
@mrxman581 23 күн бұрын
It's great to see this. Much of what was promised has come to pass. On the list of stations, 13 of the 18 on there were built or will be once the D line extension opens. Several other stations that were never on the list got built when the Red line went north under Vermont. There will be close to 130 miles by 2028. And within 12 years it will surpass 150 miles promised in this video. Very cool. Thanks.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 22 күн бұрын
I think it *REALLY* helped that RTD was able to take advantage of Southern Pacific and Santa Fe railroad right of way to build out much of the system.
@LDTV22OfficialChannel
@LDTV22OfficialChannel 23 күн бұрын
This footage is so clear. How did you restore this?
@LDTV22OfficialChannel
@LDTV22OfficialChannel 23 күн бұрын
This should become a meme
@rriflemann308
@rriflemann308 24 күн бұрын
smog was first reported in the Los angeles basin by spanish explorers, in the 1400’s, los angeles had a brilliant and extremely successful electric light rail system that the politicians did away with in the late 1950’s . so smog was here before cars, and the pollution from vehicles had been solved in the 1930’s.
@rriflemann308
@rriflemann308 23 күн бұрын
photo chemical smog comes from hydro carbons, first the LA basin is surrounded by a pine forest, pine trees emit hydrocarbons from the pine sap and needles, second the basin shape creates a perfect inversion layer to cook the hydrocarbons into smog and hold it, the indians people that lived here for thousands of years called the basin “the valley of fires “ because of the smog.
@chrishultgren777
@chrishultgren777 23 күн бұрын
there were brush fires since the dawn of time. they make lots of smog
@frankdenardo8684
@frankdenardo8684 21 күн бұрын
They brought back trains IE streetcars, and the subway system was introduced in the 1990s.
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 20 күн бұрын
Do you Really mean the 1930’s solved car pollution ? Dont you mean the 1980’s with Cat converters and fuel Injection ?
@biteme1167
@biteme1167 20 күн бұрын
The "Red Car" was actually killed by City Lines, Firestone Tire and Rubber, and Standard Oil. They colluded together to drop the price of bus fare so low that the electric railway couldn't make money, then bought it and dismantled it.
@albear972
@albear972 24 күн бұрын
Very nice! I remember seeing those nice drawings of the Metro Rail in the early 80's as a very young kid. Now in the present day the Red line looks like a rolling bum shelter. Sometimes with up to a dozen passed-out bums in a car. And ah! Henry Waxman killed the expansion of the Purple line west due to the methane fires.
@mrxman581
@mrxman581 23 күн бұрын
LA Metro has improved noticeably over the last year. I've taken it many times since June 2023 after not using it for 3 years during Covid, and it's been fine. I've had no issues. I've used the A, E, B, and D lines. Yes, you see homeless once in a while, but I've never felt unsafe or bothered. Ridership has continued to increase for the last 17 months that indicates feel better about using it.
@albear972
@albear972 24 күн бұрын
The 1970's was jam-packed full of silly dumb things. This is one of them.
@petepeterson5337
@petepeterson5337 23 күн бұрын
Dumber than today?
@SiskaweshKsutaraden
@SiskaweshKsutaraden 22 күн бұрын
@@petepeterson5337 Good question.
@OKFrax-ys2op
@OKFrax-ys2op 22 күн бұрын
The 70’s were way cooler than today!
@6killer426
@6killer426 21 күн бұрын
Blanket statements from another stoopid individual, who loves batteries and battery powered thingies.
@JohnWilson-wg4gk
@JohnWilson-wg4gk 24 күн бұрын
10:00 I'm wondering how the steam is produced. The narrator only uses the word 'fuel' . I'm wondering...uranium ? solar ? wind ? Then the narrator drops his pants... "like burning a gas stove" . Well...which is it ? Is natural gas clean burning or is it polluting the atmosphere with carbon footprints, causing the Earth to heat up, melting the polar ice caps and flooding our coastal cities ?
@-fz1yg
@-fz1yg 24 күн бұрын
You must be a climate denier. Calm down. Its a 52 year old experimental bus that didnt work and they have been using diesel ever since. That should make you happy.
@JohnWilson-wg4gk
@JohnWilson-wg4gk 24 күн бұрын
@-fz1yg 😁 Nah...I don't know much or care much about the climate. I was just curious to see if I shook this tree a little, would a nut fall out ? One did ! 😉 Have a nice day !
@LDTV22OfficialChannel
@LDTV22OfficialChannel 23 күн бұрын
It's kerosene.
@user-do5zk6jh1k
@user-do5zk6jh1k 23 күн бұрын
This wasn't meant to reduce carbon. It was meant to reduce smog. 2 very different pollutants. For the sake of this problem, it doesn't really matter how much energy efficiency the fuel gives, as long the combustion produces fewer particulates.
@nostalgiccameralife
@nostalgiccameralife 22 күн бұрын
Smog is caused by unburned hyrdocarbons, of which the average car before emissions controls emitted tons of. A natural gas burner on the other hand emits practically none. There's a reason you can cook a seven course meal with gas, but running a 1969 Cadillac inside a closed room will kill you in a minute.
@Xsiondu
@Xsiondu 24 күн бұрын
Typical edgy non conformist schtick. We're bucking the system by using a steam engine. Let's show them how different we are and number it 666. God I hate hippies. The whole lot of them pulled the ladder up on their way through.
@bobiowahogs9899
@bobiowahogs9899 24 күн бұрын
We put a steam engine in an old CTA bus in 1972 as part of an undergraduate project at Northwestern Univ Mechanical Engineering program. We tested it a GM Proving Grounds in some kind of competition to reduce pollution. It was a modified Stanley steamer, ran well, but had some problems.
@trainmanthunder
@trainmanthunder 24 күн бұрын
Like the GM EV 1 automobiles, I saw failure numbering the first prototype No. 666. . Does anyone know what hydraulic transmissions if any were used as GM used V drive rear axles then?
@josephpadula2283
@josephpadula2283 20 күн бұрын
EV-1 had a reduction gear but no transmission . Single speed.
@heidihobear
@heidihobear 24 күн бұрын
This came out in 2005? Looks like it came out in the 90s
@albear972
@albear972 24 күн бұрын
I was about to say that too, exactly 1994.
@LDTV22OfficialChannel
@LDTV22OfficialChannel 23 күн бұрын
Agreed big time