Hi Wayne - thanks for your comment, much appreciated! I think I replaced that set up and changed it out - have a look at the following 3 part video series I did with wiring diagram - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZK7aKmeo716ZtUsi=bPNn7UjoA76LdzWT I still have my twister - need to get it out and about again (just the weather here in the UK!) just drop me a line if you need anything else - good luck! cheers Stuart

Hi MadMazda, this is the original first edition Twister. That means that it has the single receiver aerial and 2mm GPS puck. Basically, bad news! I changed out the GPS puck for a 4mm one (available on ebay as a straight replacement) and installed a frsky X8R twin diversity receiver. The twister transmitter is also a weak link and not reliable. So, I connected the X8R to a Tarannis transmitter - now works perfectly!

Stuart Downing cheers for the detailed reply. I was looking around the net for info last night. Managed to find out mine is know as the big shark gps, and managed to do a offline update to the firmware. Still concerned, but I’ll see what happens today! Lol

Hi Rob, I actually have 2 of these - both still running! I must do another video with the modified one - I have put an OSD in it which works really well. They do have their issues though which is why I think they weren't very popular - the two main issues I found was the transmitter and GPS. When I modified mine and installed a frsky receiver and connected it to my tarranis is has behaved fantastically with huge range as well! I changed out the GPS for a better version and again huge improvements. Check out my other Twister videos! Cheers Stuart

@@Stuied40 Hello there, Terrible news I'm afraid.I was flying my Quattro X which I brought back from a friend in local park, when suddenly it lost all power in the air, flipped over and fell about 200ft onto concrete.Obviously smashed to pieces, I am devastated. I don't know what went wrong, my friends say there is a signal being put out to down drone's - is this legal? If this is the case then when I get another ( I will replace it either new or 2nd hand of ebay) I should perhaps consider converting it to 35mhz as no one bothers with this band anymore, so I won't be paranoid about my next one randomly falling out of the sky. It is a great drone when all is going well. I will be getting a small drone also to zip around with, maybe another Bugs 6 or perhaps a Bugs 3 mini. So what's your opinion as to why my drone crashed? I noticed the Xt60 connector was disconnected on the ground after crash, this could have been either the cause of the crash, or a result of it. Definitely getting another thnough. Rob

@@robertkelly5515 Hi Robert, I'm sorry to hear that! I had a large Align M690L fall out of the sky just as yours did. Upon further investigation, I found that the battery was at fault - poor quality battery. Basically, I learnt the hard way that you get what you pay for in battery terms! I think realistically that your battery was probably to blame. However, looking back to your last post, you use a bigger battery - was there a chance that it moved and pulled itself free of the xt60? - The other reason could be due to a faulty ESC this can cause the drone to flip. I don't (yet) buy that signal jammers are being used to down drones as the cost to do so is uneconomical - unless you were flying near Gatwick airport!! You may be able to replace your damaged frame, the cheerson cx20 is an exact replica and all parts are pretty much interchangeable. It would also give you an opportunity to check to make sure that there are no loose connections. Let me know how you get on. Cheers Stuart

@@Stuied40 Yes, I agree I reckon it was the battery.I was using the standard size at the time, but I noticed this battery wasn't giving a very long flight time, like the low battery alarm would sound after only a few mins of flight.So either the power just went or it disconnected.(Don't like the XT60 adaptor now) I would like to get another quattro soon, but sooner I will be getting a Bugs 3 mini to Zip around with, it's the cheaper option.Plus my mate wants to swap the crashed Quattro for his Bugs 3 drone (which was mine originally) the Bugs 3 is a classic reliable workhorse, cheap too. I have been looking at the Bugs 2 (gps) and also the Husban H501s if I can get either of these cheap of ebay, I will be doing OK.I was going to install the Quattro internals into a generic drone frame of ebay, but if my mate wants it (and I can't think why he would do such a swap!) I will swap the crashed drone for the Bugs 3. Still I will miss the Quattro a lot, so will probably end up getting another - maybe it would be wise to install a parachute recovery system, just in case. At £100 new it is a costly model to replace!!!

Hey English Turbines, Thanks for your comment. Yes it is 5.8g and to be fair it has been performing very well. The problem (entirely my fault) was the trees and attenuation of the signal. 1280mhz does sound the way to go for me, as everywhere I can fly there are either lots of trees or the Pennines! Do you have any suggestions for the Kit? Cheers Stuart

SirHaugen Correct! It works perfectly. I'm sure it will work even better when I get the COG set up properly. I'm tempted to give it a go in my Skywalker as well - same settings too. Every launch so far has been without incident and its a pleasure - definately takes the hand launch stress out of it! Cheers Stuart

Ahh nice man! Glad to help! Yeah I want to try it on my Skywalker 1900 as well. Planning to try it next week or so. Gotta love the Mini Talon when COG is perfect though :)

Hey Richard - thanks for stopping by! Have a look at this video which may be useful - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZK7aKmeo716ZtU In terms of the gimbal, the only one I would recommend is the Quanum Q-2D from HobbyKing. I recommend this because a. it fits perfectly and b. very little prop in shot. However, a cheaper alternative is the Walkera White Plastic Version G-2D available from ebay. This will require some small modifications. If you still need a diagram etc, let me know which transmitter and gimbal you are going to buy and I will send one over to you. If you need any help - just give me a shout! Cheers Stuart

Cool John - I hope you will post your video? Regards Stuart

Hi John! Are you going to the punch bowl near Crested Butte Colorado?

Thanks John!

Thanks Jake & Mar!

Hi Pierre - thanks for your comments! I have not had a chance to try that yet but I am assuming that you have to take heights into account. By that I mean, in the above video, the hill is around 400m but it is a gradual incline. So, when I set off the altitude is 0M but in reality I am 400M) So when I set off over the edge the altitude suddenly increases up to the 400M mark. Therefore, if I were to fly way points, I am assuming that I would have to take the various heights into account - including returning it back up the gradual incline to the home position! I think I will fly it around and take note of the heights first, then send it off on a mission with those heights. If anyone knows the actual answer to this please post below. Regards Stuart

+sean c Hi Sean, thanks for your comments. On the Twister I use DJI 9450 self tightening props. Cheers Stuart

+minijimi Thanks for watching...more around Congleton when the weather improves!! Cheers Stuart

+Pantherrilla Productions - I generally fly in Attitude mode and the facebook forum guys tell me that in this mode drifting is normal. I can't say I've noticed any drift in GPS mode, but hopefully I will try this out this weekend. I left all gains in their stock settings. Cheers Stuart

+Stuart Downing ok thanks

+Pantherrilla Productions - I'm Back!! I will be uploading a new video taken a couple of weeks ago. I love this thing - the build quality is stunning. The electronics including cables however, are not! I have replaced every cable including esc's. You will need to replace the GPS also, unless you have the one with the yellow connector. Most of us have replaced the GPS with the dual GPS/Glonass unit. Pros - Build Quality Cons - All cables and electronics. Battery life can be an issue - expect around 10 minutes on a 6s 10000mAh battery. Gimbals - Don't buy an Align gimbal - any type - they are all bad! Parts availability - they are becoming hard to get hold of...you will need a stock of consumables (esc's / motors etc) My crash still remains a bit of a mystery. There are two likely causes: 1. Battery cell or total battery failure 2. Total power failure - connection from the pcu? I stripped it all back and re-wired it. Don't buy cheap batteries!! Make sure you update all firmware to the latest versions - otherwise the components wont work together. Cheers Stuart

+Stuart Downing yeah i know about the bad quality of wiring.. on my M480, out the box GPS wiring, all wires came un-done from solder point, replace with new Dual..APS-M still doesn't detect GPS, i have all three models now, so i put the new Dual GPS on my M470 works like a charm, but it drifts bad, did all the calibration several times, since the PC software doesn't have the GYRO calibration, besides the GPS calibration, how can i get that drift out, this thing does not hold position in GPS mode @ all

+Pantherrilla Productions oh i forgot had to redo the wiring on the esc's signal cable, with such a high grade of components, they should have use higher gauge wire as well

+Pantherrilla Productions - Yep, I know about the drifting...watch my new video (uploading it right now) you will see it drifting to the right. With lots of trim, I still cannot stop it! I will ask a question on the Facebook Forum! Cheers Stuart

+Stuart Downing yeah but in your previous vids, it's not drifting well it seems that way, from what i've read, this has something to do with the GYRO not being leveled,so it's constantly trying to level itself..... like in DJI/CC3D/ETC, you have a GYRO calibration in the software and then when your ready to fly, you do the GPS calibration..Align is missing the GYRO calibration in the software, i'm wondering is this feature in the Bluetooth version...let me know when you upload & i'll check it out

+Chris e Hi Chris - very straight forward mod. Have a look at Part 1 & 2 in this series to see how to do it and the costs. The big money item is the screen or goggles. Check out Banggood for some great cost effective FPV gear! Cheers Stuart

+bryon kerslake Hi Bryon, Not in this set up! Make sure you use the Quanum Q-2D or Walkera equivalent - do not bother with the Twister gimbal!! By undercarriage do you mean retracts? If so, check out the Quanum electric retracts on HobbyKing. Cheers Stuart

+Jeyo McNugget Hi Jeyo, I changed the Deans Connector to the XT60 connector which most battery manufacturers seem to use. You can get these on Ebay for a few pounds. Alternatively, you can buy a deans to XT60 connector - again from Ebay. The best batteries I have found are the Overlander 2900 mAh which fit perfectly in the Quattro - expect to pay around £30 for these off of Ebay. Hope this helps! Regards Stuart

+stuart downing thanks for the reply, I was able to buy a 2700mah battery off Amazon, the same as the stock battery. I would have bought a bigger battery but I don't know what other battery's I can charge with the stock charger that came with the quad. The battery has an xt60 connector but I also bought a adapter of Amazon. Should solve the problem.

Hi Jeyo, when you start to get more into it, I would suggest that you get yourself a 'proper' charging unit. Something like the Skymax from HK is one such way (and cheap too) these chargers will help you keep your batteries in optimal condition and allow you to put them into storage charge when you are not flying. If you need any help, give me a shout! Cheers Stuart

+stuart downing hello again Stuart, would you be able to recommend a decent charger that is relatively cheap? I will certainly check out the one you mentioned on hobbyking but is there any others you would recommend, I have just bought a gimbal so il not be able to buy anything until next week. I have also got a battery checker on the way so I can keep my batteries in optimal condition with the charger I have. Would you also be able to recommend a pair of props as I'm looking for new ones, mine are a bit banged up from a crash I had a while ago. I was thinking of the dji self tightening ones but they are very expensive! I suppose them being good quality would be good for vibrations though. Thanks.

Hi Jeyo, I use the imax B6 Lipo Charger & an X series from Hobby King. The imax B6 starts around £13 (but you need an additional power supply) to around £25 with built in charger - be careful though there are lots of copies around - try to get an original one if you can. Fast Lad sell the DJI (9450) props for around £12 per pair - they are well worth the investment giving better flight times, lift and security. If you can wait, Banggood have the props for £6 per pair. Hope this helps. Cheers Stuart

+Sarah Dodson Hi Sarah, Glad you enjoyed the video. I would advise you to watch as many of the Twister Videos as you can - and learn as much as you can on the things that have gone wrong for people. Briefly, I would make the following observations: 1. The calibration process is absolutely critical. Do it every time you fly - even if it's in the same place. I would suggest that 90% of all fly aways are caused by not doing this properly. Watch the lights to make sure it has calibrated correctly. If in doubt - do it again! 2. Leave the Quattro on the ground for a couple of minutes after the satellite lock has been established - this should help to make sure you have the best satellite lock available where you fly. Always fly in an open area. 3. The GPS receiver is (in my opinion) not the best. It's very easy to change from the 2mm device to a 4mm device - the 4mm receivers cost around £3 on ebay and take around 5 minutes to install but will give you approximately 10 satellite lock. This makes it very stable and will reduce fly aways. 4. When you have flown it a few times and are confident (and more importantly - enjoying it!) - I would strongly suggest that you replace the transmitter and receiver - I know it's expensive (especially after the initial outlay) and a bit tricky but the difference is immense. I had a yawing issue with mine which disappeared after I got a new transmitter. The set up also gives you more range and a much stronger / more reliable connection. Hope this helps! Drop me a line if I can help any further - don't forget to subscribe as I will be bringing out more Twister videos as soon as the weather changes!! Regards Stuart

+stuart downing thank you so much for your advice very much appreciated

Hi Anthony Bennington, Sorry for the delay - been working away!! I plan to do a new video this weekend using some new components. Keep an eye open for this as it will include a more detailed description for the wiring and components used. Cheers Stuart

Thanks Stuart look forward To it

+Aero FPV Thank You for your comments! Getting the parts for her here in the UK is really difficult - I can get some through HK international warehouse but it's cheaper to buy a new one!! I'm looking to modify the wing fixings as this is where the majority of damage has occurred. Cheers Stuart

I can tell you first hand that this plane has a bad tendency to tip stall. I would think twice about getting the same plane for she is not aerodynamically sound. Just my opinion. Cheers mate.

+andy Hopwood Hi Andy - this is the one I purchased - will take a couple of weeks but great service and for less than £4 can you go wrong? Cheers Stuart CIROCOMM GPS & GLONASS Ceramic Patch Antenna 25x25x4mm Dual-mode PA025AQ0001 From Ebay

+Barber Graham Hi - this is only possible with the right gimbal. Use the Quanum Q-2D from Hobby King or the Walkera G-2D (on Ebay) - these gimbals sit forward on the Quattro and thus pushes the camera forwards; legs therefore out of shot! Cheers Stuart

Ah cheers for that. Are you doing fpv in these vids. I can see that far

Only until it went Mad!!

+Andy clark Hi Andy, Glad your equipment has arrived safely! Sounds like a great set up! I will try and get round to doing the set up video this weekend. 2 things to remember: 1. Make sure you have the correct video connector to go into your SJ4000 - they are widely available, but I'm not sure if they have the same pin out as the GoPro. 2. Know the wifi controls on the SJ4000 - I think you have to push and hold the up menu key to switch it on and off. Make sure its OFF - you will loose control of the Twister if it is on! I downloaded the APP for the SJ4000 to check to make sure the wifi was OFF. Cheers Stuart

+Andy clark Hi Andy, will be a winter project now. Arms / legs / battery tray / gimbal etc all need to be replaced. If I had been any higher, then it would have been fatal! I'll be back in 2016 though!! Cheers Stuart

+Andy clark Hi Andy, What have you got? I was thinking of doing a quick fpv set up video over the weekend as the weather is going to be bad! Cheers Stuart

Phill Spencer Hi Phil, I will get this sorted for you. In terms of parts, it depends on how much you want to spend. If you look below at my reply to Vulcan, I have listed some parts easily available on ebay. The set up you see on the video is: Immersion RC (Fatshark) 5.8Ghz 25mW Transmitter £45.99 Free P&P ebay FatShark Attitude V2 Goggles £300 approx (got mine 2nd hand from ebay) Gopro output cable £5.00 Free P&P ebay Twister Gimbal (just bought one of these as the one in the video went faulty) £99.00 Elite Models on line (you will need some JST female connectors for the power supply) ebay Don't waste your money on the OSD - not very good! but still available at £30 ebay. If you need any further assistance just give me a shout! Cheers Stuart

Rc Vulcan Hi Vulcan! Okay, you cannot use the wifi on the gopro for live video. If you do, your twister will fly off uncontrollably (I know I have done it!!) So, make doubly sure it is switched off. If you look to the right hand side of the gopro, you will see a black and yellow cable. This takes the video out signal from the gopro to a transmitter. The transmitter sends a video signal to the FatShark goggles which I use for FPV. Go to ebay and search on FPV in Radio Control and you will see a myriad of 5.8ghz transmitters and receivers. The Immersion RC models are generally the best in terms of quality but they are expensive. As an example From ebay UK: Boscam TS5823 Transmitter (I have just bought one of these) eBay item number: 321777178682 £11.87 Free P&P Hobby King Quanum Goggles eBay item number: 121693938305 £31.95 Free P&P 5.8ghz receiver around £20 Free P&P You will need some additional bits and bobs (such as a battery for the goggles and antennas) but all in all you could spend as little as £70 - £80 Almost forgot - GPS lock - generally I only fly in manual mode. I do use GPS when putting my goggles on or if I want to pan around at height. It's quite well known that the gps isn't that reliable on the twister! If you need any assistance, just give me a shout! Cheers Stuart

James Barkshire Hi James, I'd already flown further than that earlier on - I have a feeling that in addition to the failed calibration, I have a switch issue on the transmitter. I'll keep an eye on that one. I'm not sure that we can update the Twister firmware - the cx20 flight controller is different to ours. Also, you would need a software program to run it on?? Interesting that when you think about it, there is not that much info on the Twister out there or from the manufacturers! Perhapse we should start our own facebook page!! Cheers Stuart

James Barkshire Hi James, no problem! It may have changed quite a bit if you haven't been for a while, the dunes have disappeared due to errosion and the storms a year or so ago. Cheers Stuart

stevie boi Hi Stevie, Don't like the sound of that! We have seen this before, and it could be a few things unfortunately: 1. Bad Motor - needs replacing 2. Corrupt output from the electronic speed controller / or speed controller faulty - needs replacing 3. Your Lipo battery (or a cell of the lipo) maybe faulty. Check the voltage of each cell with a balance tester; and/or 4. You may not be getting the correct voltage to the flight controller; and/or 5. You may not be getting a digital signal out of the flight controller to the esc's If you get a chance have a look at the following video to see if you issue is simular: Cheers & Keep us posted - it's how we learn! Stuart kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJWudIJ_l5mEndk

***** hi stu got it all sorted,they said i had an iffy speed controller,now im preparing to have a go again,once again thanks for the help

stevie boi Hi Stevie, That's great news! Cheers Stuart

Hi RC Vulcan!, Yes you can indeed use the GoPro for FPV - here is a basic list of what you will need (you may already have some of this equipment): 1. GoPro & Gimbal - gimbal can be either fixed or powered - the Walkera G-2D or Hobby King Quanum Q-2D would be perfect for the Quattro X (around £60 on ebay) 2. You will need an FPV transmitter mounted on the Quattro to transmit the signal from the GoPro to a receiver. The transmitter in the UK can only be 25mW to remain legal. It should operate on 5.8 GHz to avoid any interference with the 2.4 GHz radio controller. NB: Do not use the GoPro wifi setting to an ipad etc as this will result in severe interference and you will loose control of the Quattro. (Immersion RC transmitter around £50 on ebay) 3. You will need a receiver. You will choose either goggles or a screen. FatShark goggles are a great choice or if you prefer a screen then the Flysight BlackPearl is the one to go for. (It will cost between £100 - £300 depending upon which choice you go for, and either new or second hand equipment) 4. You will need a connector cable to connect the GoPro to the FPV Transmitter. (£4 on ebay) 5. You will need JST plugs for power and soldering skills! 6. As an option you can also purchase spironet antennas for better reception (Immersion RC £40 per pair) 7. Basic Setup : a. Install the FPV transmitter on the Quattro (NB: you will need to set up a transmission channel) - I have mine to the rear attached to one of the legs via cable ties. b. From the 12V power on the bottom of the quad, wire in the supply to the FPV transmitter - you will need to solder additional cable as the supplied cables will not reach. c. From the FPV transmitter, solder the yellow and black cables to the yellow and black cables to the GoPro connector cable. d. Always plug in the GoPro adapter before switching it on - this will put it into tv out mode. e. Always make sure you have the FPV antenna connected before powering up - if not this will fry the transmitter! f. Tune in the receiver to the transmission channel - most are automatic so no drama here! NB: If you want to power the GoPro from the 12V supply you will need to transform this down to 5V - failure to do so will fry you GoPro! I just use the internal GoPro battery and take a spare with me. And that's about it!! If you need and more help, just let me know! Regards Stuart

+stuart downing I'm thinking about putting FPV on my Cheerson CX20, would you be able to give some links to the bits you brought?

+Ross RS Hi Ross, all you need to do is type the description of the item above (points 1-6) into Ebay and it will find the parts you need. A great source of parts for the Cheerson CX20 (and the items above) is Banggood.com If you cannot find something specific - please give me a shout! Cheers Stuart

+stuart downing Would this work as the transmitter? Also, what would I use to power it, a separate battery or connect it to the LiPo one? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FPV-5-8g-25mW-UK-LEGAL-Mini-FT951-Transmitter-TX-ImmersionRC-Fatshark-5-8Ghz-/231733595131?hash=item35f4660bfb:g:LOYAAOSwDNdVpNxk

+Ross RS Hi Ross, that would work - no problem. Also get some JST plugs such as www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JST-Plug-and-Socket-connectors-Pre-Wired-150mm-leads-2pin-Red-and-Black-Wire-/111695647837?var=&hash=item1a0194545d:m:m7DHif1gmJ0AXPelcJ-q6DQ You can then plug this in to the power port at the bottom of the quad and solder the ends to the connector to the transmitter. Also, because of its size, get a set of Short Cloverleaf antennas: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-8ghz-FPV-Cloverleaf-Antenna-SET-Circular-Polarized-RP-SMA-SMA-Connector-LHCP-/252020484595?var=&hash=item3aad9769f3:m:mMvRfbJmWBpCpTcqoEiPsvg I now use a similar set up on my quattro x and can mount everything on the bottom of the quad rather than the legs. No need to use a separate battery, as weight is everything - most of my batteries are 2900mAh and with all the kit, will give around 12 minutes. Cheers Stuart

Hi Stephen, Yes that would work fine for the Boscam. You will probably need a JST connector to make the connection - if you get a powered gimbal it's worth getting some anyway for future use. Ebay is a good source as you can get sets of 10 for less than £5 I look forward to your videos in the near future - any help just give me a shout! Cheers Stuart

Hi Robert, I have the Quanum Q-2D gimbal from Hobby King. I understand though that the Walkera G-2D gimbal is identical (you can get these on ebay much quicker and cheaper!) Have a look at some of my other videos, the comments go into some detail around getting the gimbal setup. You will also need a transmitter and receiver and something to see the video with. This must be 5.8ghz and no more than 25 milliwatts to remain UK legal. You will need a camera such as a GoPro or SJ4000 (non-wifi version). I would advise that you purchase the very best equipment you can afford. Flying FPV is not easy to begin with and if you have poor quality equipment it could make the experience worse. Stick with the top brands such as GoPro, FatShark, Immersion RC. Always remember to keep any source of interference away from the Quattro especially Wi-Fi & BlueTooth signals. Good Luck!! Cheers Stuart

Thanks Stuart! I already have the GoPro, but will check out your other videos for the rest of the equipment I will need! Rob

Hi Nick, Great news about your Twister - Can't wait to see the videos! The port is a bit of a mystery! I cannot find any info about it at all. We would need to know what program to open up any of the data in. I will try and find out though and get back to you. Cheers Stuart

Thanks Stuart! I did ask with the importers and manufacturers too - deafening silence ha. I know on the opensource version of the Cheerson and the Quanum it's for running the autopilot stuff, and I know we don't have that flight controller, but I was just wondering if there were any little bits and pieces we could do with it.