Courtesy from the Greatest generation.

But the reason was we did not want the German navy to gain possession of France's ships. The French were asked nicely. Given extended time and still no answer. So.....

Wondering why they did not make the worlds largest shotgun shell for the 16" guns. In the right scenario, they could have worked. Torpedo planes for sure.

It's so crazy how bad Japan sucked, their incompetence was shocking. The difference in intelligence between Japan and America was just crazy, it's like they were from another planet of lesser intelligence given all the completely fucking idiotic stuff they did that made absolutely no sense. They knew nothing about basic war concepts, and it shows in every aspect of their participation in the war. Complete idiots who make Italians look like Gods.

I believe that the British never left its carrier without air protection .even when most planes were on a mission plus they had steel decks do harder to damage

Why were they fighting?

I've visited the BB North Carolina twice. Awesome ship .

Kennedy was banished to the South Pacific and given the smallest command possible apt boat. This was because he was involved in sexual relations with a Danish woman who was a Nazi spy

Yamato class like other japanese battleships was named for medieval provinces..there was a yamato province...being an old name for japan itself was a secondary meaning

I hear there is a ship we can shoot at that’s about 16 miles that way. Wanna try and hit it? Shit why not? FIRE!

BB-55 still has dents from strafing on her funnels from this attack.

That’s got to be Ryan Szimanski narrating this.

Is this Ryan Szimanski from the New Jersey talking ?

I agree that select members of either CG-47 Tico or the Burkes should be persevered. Perhaps tie in the name of the ship with the location she goes too. USS Mobile Bay would be a great addition to the Battleship Alabama park. Since the USS Carney got to do a massive amount of shooting in the Red Sea, place her either at Patriots Point next to the USS Laffey or In JAX with the DE USS Orleck. USS Leyte Gulf would be great in Pearl Harbor.

RCN Niobe or Haida for non-US destroyer?

I think one that i can pretty much guarantee would be the Arthur M Anderson on the Great Lakes. Massively historically significant to the region. Kept in really good condition because she is so well known. Her company does not want to be the one to sink or run her into the ground. And......shes not a warship......the problem with post ww2 vessels is that alot of the conflicts that the us has been involved in are pretty controversial in the public conscious. I dont think any ship from the gulf war onward will be preserved for that reason. Just too much political baggage i think for a city to absorb. I live by a middle east conflicts memorial.....and i can tell you that place gets like 0 visitors. Sad? Yes. Ignorant to history? Absolutely. But it shows the public support for these modern day warships is not there and those are really hard stories to interest them with. Idk alot of people would wanna tour the USS Cole or the Uss Vincennes and learn the intricacies of those really sad events. And then learn about their role in a conflict they dont really think too fondly of. The ole lakers on the other hand are beloved and can successfully operate as museum ships as shown by the Mather and Valley Camp

USS Croaker once belonged to a group in Connecticut but the Navy revoked their agreement, before she went to Buffalo.

The US needs at least 5 Battleships !!! .... they are bad ass and the enemy can see the can of whoop ass sitting off their shores ....

The North Carolina proves that it's better to give than to receive!

I'm cool with video calls:)

Saratoga was also there under Admiral Spruance. Spruance is probably one of the best admirals in the US Navy. He is cautious and prepares for the worst.

On WWII aircraft check with great lakes. The two training carriers dumped several off the sides to clear the decks and the few recovered were in fairly good shape as they are in deep cold fresh water.

Hell yes, North Carolina!!

I strongly disagree with the Navy practice of disabling the power plants. It even renders them unfit for reactivation except for raw material scrapping. With just disabled weapons they could still cruise once a year (or more) as a way to boost funds and if galleys were functional for hosting reunions and events they handicap funding by nearly half. Second with the reserve fleet, many could be used as Navy owned museum/training ships. The older reserve ships are more expendable and could be entrusted with ROTC programs for upkeep while training future crew with the basics. Two to six of a given class on each coast would keep a potential Museum ship from being stripped and form a rapid ready reserve. Also before scrapping as many I think we should place some for sell to allies after a decade to help fund replacements. This would help keep the yards going. Also we need to build more at a time. Ship one of a class cost as much as the next 3-4 combined.

good episode!

Speaking to the title of this video rather than discussing the Proceedings article, did you have any information or thought whether the next museum ship would be a US Coast Guard vessel? I think for many maritime cities, USCG has much more presence than the US Navy (sad to say). The USCG ships seem popular for sale to allies, but they do have a story and I think they'd be easier to bring in and maintain than US Navy warships.

As someone who used build ships for the navy, I find our current shipbuilding situation disgusting. And when I hear Jack talking about the Koreans coming into the US to revamp one of our naval yards and teach us hoe to build ships, it just pisses me off.

This raises a question, if a museum ship wasn't donated by the USN (e.g. USS Slater) are they ineligible for strip trips?

That mut have looks like a walls of steel to go throught. Bravo to that crew for their courage .

18:53 I would think if Enterprise (CV-6) were a museum ship in New York we would not get Intrepid (CV-11). As a New Yorker, it would be amazing had Enterprise been preserved and in Manhattan!

There's also the state these ships are in when the Navy turns them over to the museum fleet. They're often pretty thoroughly gutted and cannibalized before the museum gets their hands on them, and it's up to private donations to try to beg, borrow, and steal what's missing in order to be able to display the ship in any meaningful configuration, or even allow the tour route to go through all of what should be the interesting spaces.

It should be pointed out that Salem was saved as a Museum Ship although she never saw combat. She was however the very last Heavy Cruiser in the world after her sister ships ( Des Moine, and Newport News ) were scrapped. This in itself as well as the automated 8" 55 gun system which is her main armament makes Salem a rare bird indeed.

While they may not be historically significant they are literary significant the Tom Clancy fleet should have been saved. The Pharris, Rueben James, Dallas, Tico.

Yes. The former USS Barry which was a museum ship actually run my the USN at the Navy Yard in DC. They wouldn't pay for the upkeep and the DC government replaced a bridge which would have bottled it up at the Navy Yard forever. So the USN decided to scrap her rather than try and find another place to take her.

Who says its the ship museums job to be Navy assets for recruitment? If the Navy wants to attract and keep people, maybe they should increase base pay and family allowances.

When it comes to the WW2 vessels, specifically the battleships in the US Navy, there's an argument that can be made while the Iowas were still in the Navy's hands. If Texas, North Carolina, Massachusetts and Alabama were saved, why weren't any of the Pearl Harbor veterans saved? Why was USS Nevada used as a target for Operation Crossroads? Why were Tennessee, California and West Virginia scraped when they were prime candidates to be turned into museum ships? Why wasn't USS Pennsylvania saved to honor her fallen sister? Then of course, you've got a number of the British vessels. But those reasons were clearer than their American counterparts. They could've saved Warspite, Renown, Duke of York and Vanguard from the breakers. 4 ships out of God knows how much. The only significant World War 2 surface vessel in the Royal Navy that was saved is HMS Belfast.

The most crucial asset for the Navy is ship repair facilities. Every available dry dock should be preserved, if the navy doesn’t have a use right now - then put a museum ship in it. If a war is going to happen and we need the shipyard, simple to refloat the ship. What about skill sets we’ll need to repair

The Type 82 Destroyer HMS Bristol is there to be saved.

All good points, guys. It’s probably possible to create a Venn Diagram or list of boxes (location, money, ship’s history) that must be checked in order to preserve a major warship, and unfortunately most ships available today don’t check enough of those boxes, just as their predecessors didn’t check them before WWII. Nice job!

Tico would make another Great Museum ship.👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

Tulagi was Japanese headquarters that Edson’s raiders captured 1st in the Solomon Islands chain

Even as a floating museum in Wilmington NC that hasn't left that position or seen action in decades, the USS North Carolina (like all battleships just exudes DON'T FUCK WITH ME!!

Americans can't pronounce other languages.

30:45 +1! No more CVNs named after presidents. Before presidents, Nimitz and Vinson, there were a few named after people (e.g. Franklin), but most fleet carriers were traditionally named after battles or earlier famous navy ships. Cancel the names of the upcoming Clinton, "W", and Doris Miller. Miller certainly deserves a ship--an Arleigh Burke DDG. The other two don't really merit naval ships at all. Bring back Lexington, Saratoga, and Hornet. With CG-48 retired, we could even have a Yorktown CVN.

banzai

Vichy French,

The movie pt 109 was designed to help JFK’s planned 1964 reelection campaign. He liked to present himself as a military tough guy: he built 1000 ICBMs, convincing the public that we desperately needed them and he introduced regular forces into Vietnam figuring it would be an easy win. The reality of PT-109 is they were apparently off hiding and not standing watch. The book Japanese Destroyer Captain has a passage in which the second destroyer in line saw the pt boat and saw the first destroyer ram her. So claims of pitch black conditions are a lie, and as to the ridiculous notion that the 109 thought the Japanese would be coming from the other direction, who ever heard of a naval vessel that didn’t have lookouts in all directions?

BB33, CV6, BB56, and every single battleship refloated/repaired from the pearl harbor attack.

I never understood why the Japanese didmt invest in better subs . I mean . It aint that hard to figure out

When Leviathan rise, every last man shall shake to the core of his soul.