This is a great video but I think you are confusing premise and theme. What you are talking about is theme... premise is the foundational idea of the plot (closer to the logline) even the word means pre-send from Latin. It's the subject of the actual story not the meaning that comes out of it.
@inkbythebarrelandpaperbyth69052 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. This is incredible
@essexrumi2 ай бұрын
It's always great to come across a good channel in its infancy. Interesting video!
@DDumbrille2 ай бұрын
You explained precisely why I couldn't stand the Matrix.
@shebakamisripresents3 ай бұрын
This was amaizing. Thank you!
@alexandrafc44633 ай бұрын
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@THEJASKumar-ui7qw3 ай бұрын
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@storyprism4 ай бұрын
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@men770d5 ай бұрын
So what Is a premise?
@Beiezle6 ай бұрын
Quality video 💪🏾
@DavidChampa-ek5my9 ай бұрын
I bet the Team at Final Draft are pissed off they didn't do this first!
@betadolphin10 ай бұрын
I am new to the craft, although I have made many tiny movies. I am the protagonist in my big story however I cannot see myself, my flaws (which is in itself a flaw...haha) for the change that must occur within the character to make the character interesting. I've written my 123 page screenplay. Flat, 1 dimensional, no one would be interested in the character. I'd like to hire someone for assistance.
@RossAllaire-wx4og Жыл бұрын
I smoke too much, I talk too much... Let's do another one where I ask y'all some questions! :)
@RossAllaire-wx4og2 ай бұрын
1:32:31 So glad that particular tic was finally caught on camera
@BeardVsTheWorldUK1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thankfully, my premise is the strongest part of my book idea. Appreciate the details of how to run with that.
@scroogemcduckrich9705 Жыл бұрын
great episode. this was a great guest
@yourcommander3412 Жыл бұрын
Wow been awhile since I've seen the movie - even the description got me choked up. Cheating wife had it coming though.
@ashroskell Жыл бұрын
That was a fascinating exploration of the idea of a Premise. Thank you. It got me thinking. It might have been worth mentioning the character of Brookes, who’s narrative also explores the same themes, but shows the dark side of, “mastering your own destiny.” After finding himself cast adrift, feeling he has no purpose in this new, faster world, he takes matters into his own hands by ending his own life. It’s a black mirror, opposite reflection of Andy’s fate, as he wanted to be set free, yet was denied; he had plans and a grasp on life on the outside, whereas Brookes has all of his authority, friendships, purpose, even his pet bird taken from him and has nothing left to live for. That’s why the anticipation builds, when we see Red go through the same stages as Brookes, in the same Halfway House, doing the same job, and failing to fully adjust, still asking for permission to go to the washroom. We worry that he may give up too. This ads to the catharsis of the ending, but also stresses the premise of the story. I see his final interview with the parole board a little differently to you. I think by then, rather than, “taking a chance,” on honesty, Red has already become the master of his own fate. He does not expect to be released, regardless of anything he says, so he simply says what’s on his mind. He answers their questions with complete honesty, not to, “persuade,” the board, but simply to speak his heart and illustrate the absurdity he sees of asking a much older man if he even recognises the boy who committed an awful offence, under extraordinary circumstances. To him, it makes no difference what he says, so he offers them a little wisdom, a lot of cynicism and an eloquent extemporaneous soliloquy on the transforming effects of time on the human spirit. Made even more eloquent, when we, the audience, compare his words with the two rehearsed speeches from his previous, “rejection hearings,” as he and Andy refer to them. Red is already master of his own fate and will not compromise the truth as he sees it, even for the sake of his being set free. All this to say that each subplot, all the characters and every event builds up to this crescendo, illustrating the depth and meaning of the story’s premise, to which is added our palpable relief that Red didn’t hang himself, after scoring his name next to Brookes’s on the wooden beam above his bed. When we see Red find that box, under the tree where Andy said it would be, our relief (for the first time viewer) is real. Then the catharsis of seeing him being rewarded for continuing to be the master of his own fate moves many of us to tears. It is the script writers, who’s artistic efforts transformed Stephen King’s very different novella, who deserve as much credit as the director and performers for such a great movie. They found the soul within the premise and put it at the centre of the story by developing the themes through every character and all of their backstories. Despite our mild disagreement, however, I enjoyed your essay profoundly. Over a coffee, or some, “cold suds,” I’m sure we would discuss these differences with great appreciation for one another’s insights, and a mutual understanding that we both obviously admire the craft of story telling. You certainly made me think deeply about a movie I haven’t seen in years. Thank you again.
@me_yessik Жыл бұрын
I like it a lot, and I've used it quite a bit, never really finished anything with it yet, but it's still pretty useful. The problem I'm having right now is that it keeps coming up with an error gateway message. Like I can't open the page and then suddenly I can and then suddenly I can't. It's really frustrating if I want to get anything Brainstormed. If you guys ever make an iPhone or iPad app with this, please let me know. It has potential to be really awesome?
@chrisjohnson8227 Жыл бұрын
Your definition for premise is actually the one for theme and your definition for theme defines a topic that a story derives its theme from. A premise is actually the externalization of the theme in context of the story that displays the theme through the events of the protagonist's story. For example for John Wick the topic could be grief, the theme could be, "ignoring your trauma will only cause more pain until the very end" and the premise is John, a retired hitman, goes after the mob after the boss's son kills the last gift from his deceased wife but it only leads to more deaths on both sides.
@storyprism Жыл бұрын
So a lot of people define it differently. We define it based on the definition coined by Lajos Egri in The Art of Dramatic Writing. John Truby also defines the premise this way. To each their own but we find this way the most helpful when writing.
@lazedreamor23185 ай бұрын
Maybe "thematic premise" might be a more fitting word since we're talking main theme.
@shhoppe4 ай бұрын
@@lazedreamor2318 I agree. Premise as it is explained here I've always considered to be theme.
@kenneth17672 ай бұрын
Egri, Maass, Truby, Bell, Weiland, etc. Different takes. But I like your way of looking at it. Sometimes there is a nuanced difference in definition depending on screenwriting or novel writing.
@user-yourselves47 Жыл бұрын
this channel is severely underrated
@grassnothing1631 Жыл бұрын
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@juicysweet6373 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video! Thank you so much, because even authors use this method for characters in books, and even video games.
@deteon1418 Жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown of different important aspects of characters!
@storyprism Жыл бұрын
Check out www.storyprism.io for help crafting the characters for your next story.
@andrewlevas9258 Жыл бұрын
What you don't get is that we are eternal so no matter what anyone or "the system" does to us is meaningless. The body dies but we go on, to learn, to help, to love.
@BooksForever Жыл бұрын
Nice try at wishful thinking, but no. All too soon comes the line, The End.
@andrewlevas6600 Жыл бұрын
@@BooksForever You'll see
@BooksForever Жыл бұрын
@@andrewlevas6600 - wishful thinking will lead you on wild goose chases after false prophets. But hey, it’s your life… waste it as you choose to.
@ninadbhatkar2127 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video; great thought.
@stagename2 Жыл бұрын
🤔 I love the retro vibe.
@stagename2 Жыл бұрын
The “Masters of our own destiny” idea is a powerful idea. But if we are soulless animals and free-will is an illusion, then Its all a luck of the draw. Thankfully thats not the case. Thankfully we are made in the image of God. We can follow his calling and exercise our tiny spec of “will” in a beautiful way if we choose.
@ziraprod6090 Жыл бұрын
Very very good.
@roadcrewfilms Жыл бұрын
Spectacular!!!
@timh2356 Жыл бұрын
"It's literally the secret sauce to good writing." LOL
@tryhardfinessedyou Жыл бұрын
It always blows my mind when I find a great video like this and the numbers just don't match up to the quality of content! This was 8/8 thank you
@AutocracyTV Жыл бұрын
I must admit, I didn't think much of Andy DuFreine, first time I laid eyes on him 🤣😅 Classic 🥰
@donavin51 Жыл бұрын
Great info!
@victortitimas6904 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I just tried this and it's awesome! Made a free account.. Does it generate screenplays or stories based on the tools you used or this is more geared towards the planning? If so, how can I make it generate a screenplay? Happy New Year! :)
@storyprism Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Victor! Glad it's helping you. It currently does not generate screenplays or stories - however, we will be introducing full screenwriting software to accompany the tools in the near future. You will be able to use the pre-writing tools within the writing application as a way to get instant feedback on your writing. We do not plan on introducing the ability to have the AI write the full story for you, but instead will design it so it acts like a writing assistant.
@DDumbrille Жыл бұрын
@@storyprism This is a horrible idea on all levels. You'll regret it in a few years, even if you do make $$$ 'creating' the programs.
@enExima Жыл бұрын
thanks. helped me a lot
@gubbothehuggo2771 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly. I've been unable to write this story idea I've had for six years because I knew that no matter what cool ideas I put into it, it lacked PREMISE. Argument. A point.
@NGDwrites Жыл бұрын
Thanks for having me, guys! That was a great conversation.
@storyprism Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure! Thank you for being our guest.
@cmagnusnorthfleet981 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love everything about this video. Excellent job on selecting the right movie and explaining the PREMISE so clearly. A serious thumbs up on this one. Thanks so much!!!
@patriciajones395 Жыл бұрын
Premise, I think = the meat in the sandwich.
@12thDecember Жыл бұрын
Good info, but presentation at beginning would have been better with plain text. At first I thought something was wrong with the video rendering, e.g., at 2:00. Also, at 2:49, be mindful that flickering images can trigger seizures in people with photosensitive epilepsy. I watched Shawshank Redemption many years ago and honestly forgot almost everything about the story, except for the actors Freeman and Robbins being the main characters.
@storyprism Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! We will take note of this for future videos.
@darlenep.campos3018 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Thank you for making this
@jinchoung Жыл бұрын
actually, what you define as "premise" actually seems like the main theme. for me, a premise is just the primary hook. the elevator pitch. not even the logline but the main "selling IDEA". for shawshank, it would be something like "how a person accused of double murder deals with new life in prison". for something like star wars, it would be "sci fi space opera where a band of rebels fight an evil empire".
@storyprism Жыл бұрын
There seems to be an ongoing debate about what exactly a premise is. We're basing it off the definition established by Lajos Egri in his book The Art of Dramatic Writing. He defines it as "the underlying /core idea of your story-the foundation that supports your entire plot". Not suggesting he is the end-all authority on the subject just that his definition works for us and makes sense.
@catchyovibe Жыл бұрын
Who cares what the definition of the word he uses is. The point of the video is what you should be attempting to take from it. It’s not here to be dissected. Have you don’t anything of substance ? No. That’s why.
@gene4094 Жыл бұрын
As a 74 yo aspiring writer, this could help me write my somewhat unusual life story.
@lynda8852 Жыл бұрын
good for you keep going i am 75 and doing just the sa.e as you good luck and best wishes
@alainconstant2956 Жыл бұрын
Keep writing, I can’t wait to see it
@stagename2 Жыл бұрын
Do tell….?
@gene4094 Жыл бұрын
@@stagename2 my creative writing course was taken many decades ago. I didn’t recall the use of a premise for enhancing the narrative. The portion of my story that I am concentrating on is the present. I have a career in analytical chemistry and am focused on creating a new energy source. I had a lucid dream on a “Lightning in a bottle” devise that splits water into hydrogen and oxygen. Having preformed 10k’s of experiments, developed patterns and solved numerous problems. I asked while dreaming, “ What is the crux of this experiment?”. I knew that there is always a part of a new experiment that you must solve before it becomes a reality. A voice told me the element, “bismuth”. I said another element, as it was a strong oxidizer. Then a pink neon sign lite up. I bought text books on quantum physics, solid state chemistry, and several other subjects to gain insight on more dreams I kept having. Over the last 20+ years I have gained insight into what the importance of “Bismuth” is. I came across a Nobel Prize in Physics on ‘Negative Refractive Indexed Meta Materials’. These materials will increase the electromagnetic energy when refracted through these materials. The meta material containing bismuth manmade(synthetic) bismuth ferrite oxide or Bi3Fe3O. This material is an insulator and has the colloidal resonance necessary for splitting micro water droplets seeded with these Bismuth Ferrites. This devise is extremely complex and documenting all the Google Scholar periodicals open sources and other articles are overwhelmingly exhausting. The final form of energy will be a ‘water plasma’ much like lighting. Before that happens need to convince someone to edit, coordinate and evaluate the viability of this. If that happens then I can dedicate more effort on my creative writing.
@levilebovitz3754 Жыл бұрын
@@gene4094holy shit . This is remarkable
@ryanhowell4492 Жыл бұрын
Cool Video
@maximolucosi Жыл бұрын
Amazing Video! The best-ever about the premise definition. Your voice and tone of speech are impressive. Please, keep coming.
@Ruylopez778 Жыл бұрын
Shawshank has a really marvelous foreshadowing when Red calls Andy's hope "shitty pipe dreams". While I agree that Red is changed by Andy over the story and by the end he is sincere with the parole board, I always took the speech to be partly a reaction to his disillusion in missing Andy. It's obviously played to be ironic that his absolute disinterest in the outcome is the time that he actually gets what he's craved for years, and I'm pretty sure it's the third time (like the rule of 3). And at the same time there is a tragedy in his speech that he is now too old to be a danger, but for the audience the uplifting sense of justice that he gets to see life outside prison. And at point the audience is begging for a reunion. I think the bigger pay off is that it's Andy's mindset that saves Red from the same fate as Brooks, where he has the courage to go looking for the tree that Andy mentioned.
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