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@Danielcoomber
@Danielcoomber 9 күн бұрын
look into room treatment bud it transforms your speakers.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 7 күн бұрын
Tx for listening Daniel
@ChrisIrving-f7k
@ChrisIrving-f7k 19 күн бұрын
Man they sound good
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 19 күн бұрын
Thanks for listening Chris!
@neilgaydon5430
@neilgaydon5430 23 күн бұрын
This was my system between 1980-1984 ❤
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 23 күн бұрын
Nice! Thanks for listening Neil
@1999zrx1100
@1999zrx1100 Ай бұрын
Wish you showed the gear more then a blank wall. Turntable looks amazing.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Ай бұрын
:) Thanks
@n.lyndley.9889
@n.lyndley.9889 Ай бұрын
PMS over DMS They need powerful Amps to come alive because of lower impedance from the parallel-wired drivers. You can buy a pair for around £600 - £1.5k (upgrade the drivers - especially the bextrene midrange for a Monacor Kevlar or ScanSpeak Illuminator) [Falcon Acoustics sell uprated B139 bass drivers] get a £200 - £1k DSP, three decent stereo power amps and they will compete with many speakers up to £40k. Everyone recommends Naim amps but they really come alive with serious amplification. I bought a second pair from a guy who ran analogue active crossovers with Naim amps. He was gobsmacked when It took me just two minutes to dial in the crossover frequencies and required slopes on my recording studio dsp via via my iPad. Then when he heard them driven by 3.8kW of regulated power supply audiophile (not pa) power amps his jaw hit the floor. Tri-amped: Tweeters: 900W Sanders Magtech stereo Midrange: 900W Sanders Magtech stereo Bass: 2000W Sanders Magtech Monoblocks You could have an active, tr-amped set-up from around £2k and it will trounce an awful lot of overpriced, passive audiophool gear.
@Flatearther620
@Flatearther620 2 ай бұрын
I have MK1 Sara’s can the Nait drive this difficult 4 ohm load?
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 2 ай бұрын
Never owned the original Sara so don’t know. Seem to recall they are harder to drive than the 9s.
@SC-le1kz
@SC-le1kz 2 ай бұрын
My fist true “hifi” speakers were Linn Tukans! Nice!
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening!
@swordstoke
@swordstoke 2 ай бұрын
They have been a firm favourite in our household since 82 and remain so. Have tried many contenders and bought a few over the years as lucky enough to have a few systems dotted around the house. AE1 Mk1 a good effort but the Kans do things that I've not heard other speakers do although Quad ESL57 were close but at the expense of a much larger footprint that wasn't conducive to keeping the peace. Nice setup you have indeed.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 2 ай бұрын
Thanks swordstoke! Glad you've also had many enjoyable years listening through Kans. I probably racked up about 20 all told so not as many as you.
@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox
@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox 3 ай бұрын
My apologies Charles, I thought I left a comment on this one when you first posted it! Sounding great👌. Spookily I listened to this LP a couple of weeks ago for the first time in a long time and quite enjoyed it. That's another like from me, my friend. Jim🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 3 ай бұрын
cheers Jim! agree, a decent album
@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox
@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox 3 ай бұрын
@@charlescheese3828 Hi mate, I replied to your question in the comments of my Tears for Fears video, don't know if you read it? Was just wondering if you did? 😉
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 3 ай бұрын
ok, tx, been away. I don’t get notifications when anyone responds either. maybe a KZbin setting.
@Bipen2
@Bipen2 3 ай бұрын
May I ask with what gear you use to make your videos?
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 3 ай бұрын
Sure, just the standard iPhone 14. I can’t be doing with fancy tripods and stereo mics, etc.
@agx502
@agx502 3 ай бұрын
Remember those days back in the 1980s. Loudspeakers with their backs to the wall, the sound stage as flat as pancake😂. The earth was really flat back then.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 3 ай бұрын
:)
@agx502
@agx502 3 ай бұрын
@@charlescheese3828 my tongue was firmly in my cheek. Chrome bumper Naim with a Sondek probably one of the most musically engaging systems ever. These days we seem to be chasing ephemera, you cannot have it all. Only thing that has really improved for me are phono stages. Happy listening. PS ooh I forgot something nowadays I find a power conditioner essential because the house is fully off cheapo switch mode power supplies (phono charger, LED light bulbs etc etc), and all these things put noise and DC offset on the mains. Just my $0.02 worth.
@Bipen2
@Bipen2 3 ай бұрын
Is there no problem for you with publishing copyrighted music? Others on KZbin (especially videos involving cassette decks) use some special free music (Sounds often like muzak to me).
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes KZbin is not allowed and then the video is automatically withheld - the site is very quick to identify the song once uploaded and block if necessary. Examples include The Beatles and Prince, but increasingly artists are open to KZbin using their music. Fleetwood Mac and Paul Simon have both changed their policy in recent years.
@agx502
@agx502 4 ай бұрын
Proper flat earth presentation 😂
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 4 ай бұрын
haha absolutely
@userzeldalink
@userzeldalink 4 ай бұрын
Sounds so engaging and full of fun, that guitar and vocal 😍 toe-tapping
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 4 ай бұрын
Great - tx for the feedback.
@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox
@jimsregaturntableshifijukebox 4 ай бұрын
Very nice 👍. You don't seem to hear much of these guys lately. I have a couple of vinyl albums of theirs.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, you're getting on now there. Mind you, doesn't stop Mick 'n Keeff
@sc0or
@sc0or 5 ай бұрын
It makes Sting’s voice unrecognizable.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 4 ай бұрын
ok
@mauriziolagaxio4954
@mauriziolagaxio4954 5 ай бұрын
This is not vintage at all
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering that when posting it :) I think 'classic' is probably a truer definition for the Linn elements, but then that word has other connotations. I might re-name it at some point.
@ilovehifi
@ilovehifi 5 ай бұрын
Traumhafter Klang. Glückwunsch zu diesem tollen Set. Behalten und nicht weiter suchen!
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Tokaisho1
@Tokaisho1 7 ай бұрын
Would the speakers sound even better brought out from the wall and toed in
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 7 ай бұрын
Hi, Both speaker and stand were voiced to be hard against a solid rear wall. You might improve a facet of the sound but musically I've never been able to find anything better.
@andrewsheehy2441
@andrewsheehy2441 8 ай бұрын
Linn Kans...the speaker that somehow manages to sounds OK with zero bass capability. (that's a compiment!)
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I know what you mean and this pair has the later KEF unit with even less bass.
@Flatearther620
@Flatearther620 8 ай бұрын
Even though KZbin this sounds fantastic. The Isobariks are my favourite all time speaker. I can’t accommodate them but I do run a pair of Sara’s. Love classic Linn speakers.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Flatearther!
@gdp6586
@gdp6586 9 ай бұрын
Hi would love to get a nac 12 nap 160 or 250. Any ideas where (forums or facebook pages?)
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 9 ай бұрын
It will probably take a long time to find them. You could try a wanted add on pinkfishmedia.net - I got my CB160 that way. Alternatively, email all the Naim dealers. Takes time but I turned up a few bits that way. Sometimes Darran at Class A will also have something. Otherwise it's just a case of waiting for one to come up on ebay via a saved search. Good luck!
@johncreet1254
@johncreet1254 9 ай бұрын
I had a pair of the original Saras and heard them with a range of amps including a Nytech receiver, Linn pre and power, Naim 160, 250 and 135 monoblocks. The speakers were good but they were very demanding in terms of amplification. To get the best out of them you needed at least a Naim 250; the 135s really made them sing but at a somewhat prohibitive cost for most people at the time.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, the 9s are supposed to be easier to drive but this CB160 also struggled at times. What did you get in the end?
@johncreet1254
@johncreet1254 9 ай бұрын
@@charlescheese3828 I ended up with a Linn pre+power largely for cost reasons. However, this proved to be a mistake. I didn't have the money at the time to go for a Naim 250 and tried to compromise with the Linn amps. The best course would have been to go for the Naim 160 and upgrade later when I had the funds for a 250. A few years later I was burgled with the amps and one of the Saras being stolen!
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 9 ай бұрын
How strange to take just one speaker. So what did you get with the insurance money? Was that LK1/LK280 or Pretek/Powertek you had from Linn? I am thinking of getting an LK1 to partner the LK280 that's being serviced.
@johncreet1254
@johncreet1254 9 ай бұрын
@@charlescheese3828 Does seem strange - the only thing I can think of is that they must have been disturbed somehow and had to rush out of the house. If I remember correctly, the amps were LK1/LK2. The LK280 wasn't out at the time. I think the LK280 was probably a better power amp but not having heard one, I don't have any experience to know how it was better.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@mercury8180
@mercury8180 9 ай бұрын
I have tried just about everything out there (british hifi) and only the Linn/Naim sound works for me. It just sounds right.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 9 ай бұрын
I know what you mean
@mercury8180
@mercury8180 9 ай бұрын
As good as anything made today. Way ahead of their time.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, great speaker. Must have been amazing back in the day.
@RebMordechaiReviews
@RebMordechaiReviews 9 ай бұрын
I remember back in 1986, listening to a Linn LP12/Naim amps and Isobariks setup and hearing for the first time, that bottle smashing, just after the cat's meow. It was so clear, yet I'd never even heard it on the recording before.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences back in the day. Would love to go back in time and hear that setup.
@RebMordechaiReviews
@RebMordechaiReviews 9 ай бұрын
​@charlescheese3828 The next record we listened to was Tears For Fear, Songs From The Big Chair album, track 2, "The Working Hour". You could actually hear the fabric of the pads of William Gregory's E-Flat Alto saxophone slightly sticking to their sockets and causing a momentary husky grunt as he played the solo intro.
@doodahdavesrecords4319
@doodahdavesrecords4319 10 ай бұрын
Sounds magnificent Nate! Nice job I am turntables shopping
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. What decks are you looking at?
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 10 ай бұрын
Takes me back.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 10 ай бұрын
Cool
@cogitoergosum3433
@cogitoergosum3433 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful, just wonderful!
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 10 ай бұрын
Great! Thanks!
@mrgreekbeek
@mrgreekbeek 11 ай бұрын
Serviced Kans. Do Linn still service them?🤔
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 11 ай бұрын
That would have ended decades ago.
@mrgreekbeek
@mrgreekbeek 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. I guess what I meant was, who did the "recent service”?
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 10 ай бұрын
Anapeach Loudspeaker Restoration
@fernandobauermeister8606
@fernandobauermeister8606 11 ай бұрын
Ok thank you and thanks for the great content
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 11 ай бұрын
Welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.
@fernandobauermeister8606
@fernandobauermeister8606 11 ай бұрын
Looking to buy Linn Kan mk1’s. Do you sell equipment?
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 11 ай бұрын
Not as a business - I just buy and sell stuff for myself. I'm hanging onto both of my Mk 1 pairs at the moment but will let you know if something changes in the short-term, although that's unlikely. Best bet is to follow ebay. Chances of a Linn dealer having any these days are very low.
@andybona3205
@andybona3205 11 ай бұрын
Nice Whereabouts do you buy most of the Naim electronics?
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 11 ай бұрын
Hi Andy, A mix of Hi-Fi forums, ebay, and Naim dealers around the UK.
@fanclub670
@fanclub670 11 ай бұрын
This sound is remarkable !! Your turntable is awesome...😮😮
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 11 ай бұрын
Thanks fanclub! - that's very kind of you.
@colinsmall8170
@colinsmall8170 Жыл бұрын
I remember in the mid seventies,many times walking by the place the bolt down case amps were assembled in Salt Lane Salisbury,was Julian Vereker,and one other i saw,i did'nt know his name.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Did you go in or just passing?
@bobrose7900
@bobrose7900 Жыл бұрын
Perfect, like going back in time! I had a friend with this exact combo, I had the 32-5, HiCap and 250 into Sara 9s... Superb sound.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Glad it brings back fond memories.
@LeoShoSilva
@LeoShoSilva Жыл бұрын
Great sound especially timing!!....Do you do requests? 😊...I would love to hear Nightfly
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
For you Leo, anything :) But unfortunately it's blocked by KZbin - I tried to use the first track just a few weeks ago.
@LeoShoSilva
@LeoShoSilva Жыл бұрын
@@charlescheese3828 oh ok ...must be a copyright thing ,keep up the good work anyway 😄
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, a few artists are still anti-KZbin. As you can perhaps tell from recent uploads, Fleetwood Mac used to be blockers but not any more :)
@mauriziolagaxio4954
@mauriziolagaxio4954 Жыл бұрын
The. Isobarik were phenomenal
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and would cost a fortune to manufacture these days. Probably a lot more than Linn's current flagship speaker.
@mmakshak
@mmakshak Жыл бұрын
What a deal on your amps and preamp!
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks - I bought the 110 from Class A. To be fair, that was the going rate at that time.
@gdwlaw5549
@gdwlaw5549 Жыл бұрын
Great sounding radiator 😊
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Amazing what you can get a the Plumb Centre these days :)
@gdwlaw5549
@gdwlaw5549 Жыл бұрын
@@charlescheese3828 haha….nice loudspeakers…they need bleeding ! :-)
@KevinKelly-wg4bu
@KevinKelly-wg4bu Жыл бұрын
Ah Linns Isobarik speakers. Once heard, never forgotten in either passive, or active versions, especially if driven by Naim Amplification.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they still sound good I think, even by modern standards. Perhaps a bit too much distance between drive units so that even old Keilidhs sound more 'together'.
@fanclub670
@fanclub670 Жыл бұрын
Is it cirkus or pré-cirkus ? Thanks for reply...
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Black liner bearing which came out in '87 so pre-Cirkus. The earlier white liner bearing also sounds good with Kans of course.
@fanclub670
@fanclub670 Жыл бұрын
@@charlescheese3828 thank you !
@mgsee
@mgsee Жыл бұрын
I've never heard Kans sound as good as this before, not even in live demos!
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mgsee! - that's encouraging to hear.
@champignondeParis
@champignondeParis Жыл бұрын
Lucky guy! Wish I still had my Kans.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@swordstoke
@swordstoke Жыл бұрын
Simply perfect .
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks swordstoke!
@Flatearther620
@Flatearther620 Жыл бұрын
Magnificent sound, do you think they could work in a very small rectangular room 7ft 8 x 11ft 2 driven by a nap 180?
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul! If they are serial 6,701 or later they should have the 4ohm external crossover and be absolutely fine with a passive NAP180. Earlier ones are much harder to drive though so not sure the 180 will be enough. Personally, I would avoid serial 8,293 onwards with the Kustone filling based on a couple of reports of them sounding a bit boring. Can't help ref the small room - perhaps another youtuber will see this and can advise.
@matthewjctalbot
@matthewjctalbot Жыл бұрын
It's possible! My room is 11ft x 20ft, but I play across the short side, meaning the front of the briks is 6ft from the front of the sofa, and they're spaced 7ft 5 apart (using outer edges). Leaning back on the couch, speakers slightly toed in, the distance (just!) works. The only difference from you is the 7ft of width/space I have either side, which I suspect will make a big difference to the listening experience. Honestly, it's worth a try.
@n.lyndley.9889
@n.lyndley.9889 Ай бұрын
Yes! 60W would give you sufficient spl’s in that sized room. Some damping on the wall behind your seating position could help in this size room. If that amplifier allows an uprated Naim power supply that would probably help control the bass drivers.
@tl9756
@tl9756 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding!, best speaker ever made..
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, kind of regret selling them listening to that clip!
@mercury8180
@mercury8180 Жыл бұрын
Even through my phone this sounds better than modern systems i have heard. The Linn naim combos just cannot be bettered in my humble opinion. No matter how they are mixed and matched they just work. I have 3 linn cd players, 3 linn turtables and a variety of linn and naim amps and speakers. I have yet to hear better and i have heard it all. Great videos and equipment. Love it.
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I feel pretty much the same, although I do like Lejonklou and have also ordered a Nait 50 so will be interesting what that is like. Such a shame Linn don't service their amps and I'm wary of going elsewhere. So, any particular favourites out of all your Linn/Naim gear?
@devrajbanerji9039
@devrajbanerji9039 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree!
@mercury8180
@mercury8180 9 ай бұрын
I do not have any favourites from my collection. I look upon each component as a musical instrument with each one having its own distinctive musical flavour depending on my mood as to which combo I use. Unlike a lot of naim users I like the nac92 nap90.3 combo with or without flatcap. I also like my trusty nait 3 I also have a nait 50 and an 83 nait 1 and a good few other olive series amps. I love my kolector/klout X2 combo but am just as happy listening to my intek as well. I do have more modern Linn pre/power combos but I use mostly the 90s stuff. Interestingly I have owned two olive nait 2 amps and sold them both as I find the nait 3 has the same musicality but with more wellie .
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 9 ай бұрын
I find achieving a balanced sound quite tricky at times so that’s a good way of viewing the amplification. Youve got a lovely collection there. unfortunately I don’t have the funds to keep everything I’ve bought in the last few years
@SAMMYKO1
@SAMMYKO1 Жыл бұрын
Marvellous!
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sammy!
@gdp6586
@gdp6586 Жыл бұрын
Kans still kick ass! U just convinced me to get mine repaired!
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
Cool. I have another pair need doing as well but next time will ask for Alcaps instead of Solens.
@andybona3205
@andybona3205 Жыл бұрын
Where can you get these fixed ?
@charlescheese3828
@charlescheese3828 Жыл бұрын
The Kans in this video were unserviced late Kan 1s with SP1057 drive units. I recently used Anapeach Loudspeaker Restoration though - have a listen to the most recent clip of 'Dreams' using the earlier Kan variant with SP1003 drive units (same as the BBC LS3/5a)