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@invalid_user_handle4 күн бұрын
Hm... it sure is strange that the figure that could be closely described as an 'angel' in Undertale is the one that has one of the most important lore-centric motifs (it's melody is also used in THE HOLY and Once Upon a Time, for instance) baked into most of it's music. That same character also happens to be absent in Deltarune, and supposedly will not return until the end of the week (If Ch. 1 was a Monday, than Ch.7 will happen on Sunday). Angel returns on Sunday... Angel's Heaven... Very, very interesting connection, don't you think? Not to mention the link that Undertale's implied to be told as a bedtime story, the dark worlds are influenced by the hopes and _dreams_ of the Lightners, some dark world themes (particularly the ones in the early part of Chapter 1) use *Nightmare Knight* motifs, and the supposed connection of the Phantasm motif to the Roaring/Twilight Reverie (reverie is a daydream)... it's almost as if Toby's trying to say something important here? I _would_ link this to my theory of "Hopes and Dreams are both extensions of Determination, and DT is required for both magic (manipulation of space) and saving/loading (manipulation of time) across Undertale and Deltarune, so if anyone believed they could enough, could they use magic even if they were a human and/or in the light world" but I don't have the energy to retype that whole thesis so I'm just leaving it at that.
@nikkari57807 күн бұрын
I had no idea wtf penumbra phantasm was before this. And now i'm gonna go down another rabbit hole. I thought I knew basically every secret in current undertale and deltarune.
@D3NPC7 күн бұрын
YOOO THEY ACTUALLY KEPT PENUMBRA PHANTASM IN AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY HEAR IT (BTW it starts before the your best friend motif and proceeds until said motif overpowers the hopes and dreams undertale melody
@hhbthefella15 күн бұрын
Bro that logo shaking so hard
@WolfyRed19 күн бұрын
Where did you get the font
@8pierrot8920 күн бұрын
I can't be the only one who sees this as wrong. I CAN'T. Even tossing out the whole situation with Buzinkai, this features far too much in Homestuck. _It's a Homestuck song._ Toby doesn't get to just take his entire discography with him when he engages in projects composed of people that aren't just him.
@radiosilent019 күн бұрын
i agree with you to some extent. some part of me thinks that toby will go a long way to separate the penumbra phantasm in deltarune from homestuck because of that reason. and as for why the Doctor motif appears here, its probably just to hint at the song in a very obscure way? after all, toby created more than enough motifs for penumbra phantasm that he could use in deltarune, so Doctor probably only appears in hopes and dreams as a hint for penumbra and as a tribute to Doctor (i feel like it makes sense knowing how much that song means to toby)
@luminalier126317 күн бұрын
I mean. He’s Toby Fox, he sort of can. Like, stepping aside whether he should, he was like the golden child of the music team, he literally made Undertale in Hussie’s basement, if he asked to use Penumbra *who the fuck would say no*? From an authority perspective Buzinkai’s passing really is the main block there, and tbh I think even that would be more Toby’s personal comfort with the matter than anything else.
@8pierrot8912 күн бұрын
@radiosilent0 I still think it just doesn't work. Those notes will never not remind me of John getting up and becoming God Tier. You expect me to listen to Toby reuse those melodies and think about it in any other context than that?? The Deltarune Fandom is already metaphorically colonizing Homestuck music that doesn't belong to them as it is. I don't need The Famous Mr. Fox to do it as well.
@8pierrot8912 күн бұрын
@@luminalier1263 The IP holders could tell him no. This song primarily features in [S: JOHN. RISE UP]/Savior of the Waking World. That's a key point in the comic, no matter how famous he is, he doesn't just get to break copyright law!
@JoseVazquez-tn6ts21 күн бұрын
I don't know why, but the whistling part in 'Mind Electric' kinda reminds me of the beginning of the lost wave song 'Chart Rundown'. Although very brief, it's very similar.
@doom64hunter21 күн бұрын
The Penumbra Phantasm leitmotif is similar to the melody of "His Theme" -- the subsequence "A, C#, C#, D" appears 3 times in the latter. Penumbra Phantasm: {D, C#, A, C#, C#, D} and repeat His Theme: {A, E, D, A, C#, C#, D, A, D, A, C#, C#, D} and {A, E, D, A, C#, C#, D, A, D, F#, E, D, E} Penumbra Phantasm's leitmotif also has the same simplicity as Gaster's theme, consisting of 3 notes, raising and falling, endlessly repeated.
@radiosilent021 күн бұрын
A? isn't it E in penumbra?
@justarandomguy98325 күн бұрын
old bandage sharp plug is also.funny especially with curse of the tower or varicose veins
@claudiaseiguerman28 күн бұрын
This sounds better than the version with the melody
@zephclips-frАй бұрын
1:18 Penumbra Phantasm???
@strangefishman7635Ай бұрын
Deltarune The Other Puppet moment
@BamsyTheSergalАй бұрын
i realized it was in the song when i played this in my car, it shows itself really well
@giov_moonАй бұрын
I'm imagining Spamton looking over you in future chapters, observing your journey towards the Heaven that, despite becoming the most powerful darkner in existence, he couldn't reach by just so little; his long and meaningful life ended on a bittersweet note, as he realized he truly couldn't be anything more than a puppet, but at the same time there's still hope for him. Hope that the heroes will achieve Heaven, the same Heaven he got a glimpse of; that day, he will be redeemed and become truly free, and he'll finally live forever in happiness. This cover is what would play when Kris is defeated from Spamton's point of view.
@Conduit-SeaWingАй бұрын
everyones going OMG HOMESTUCK OMG PENUMBRA PHANTASM! and im here for that too but this really still manages to hold up as a final boss theme even without the main melody
@balala7567Ай бұрын
1:18 oh hi homestuck (listen to background piano)
@Endorsed1320Ай бұрын
(I know I'm late, but)Tip: if you set Resampling to 2-point linear the soundfont sounds better when exported
@barnyettathedinosaur1357Ай бұрын
link no work ):
@nofastidies527Ай бұрын
Deadtone
@RTaruTaruАй бұрын
Really love this one! :D
@jamierootwoАй бұрын
Thank you!
@Anothertboichannel1712Ай бұрын
Isaac…
@a.d.t.mappingАй бұрын
can i use this as background music for a video?
@jamierootwoАй бұрын
yes
@Brain-washed2Ай бұрын
so you need 2 wild cards for this to work?
@bobokin2944Ай бұрын
You just need one, but you need to drop it on the ground first then duplicate it
@Brain-washed2Ай бұрын
@@bobokin2944 right… not sure why that wasn’t clicking for me
@PokeRenАй бұрын
STOP POSTING ABOUT PENUMBRA PHANTASM! I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT! THE SONGS IN HOMESTUCK ARE PENUMBRA PHANTASM, IN UNDERTALE IT'S FUCKING PENUMBRA PHANTASM! I was looking at boss predictions, right? and ALL OF THE THEMES were just Penumbra Phantasm. I-I showed Hopes and Dreams to my girlfriend and t-the melody I removed it and I said "hey babe, when the Penumbra is Phantasm HAHA DUN DUN DUN DUNDUN" I fucking looked at THE HOLY and said "THAT'S PENUMBRA PHANTASM" I looked at She's Playing Piano I hear the piano rhythm and I go "PIANO? MORE LIKE PIANUMBRA PHANTASM" AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHGESFG
@chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031Ай бұрын
😳👌
@sudsinn2 ай бұрын
i sentence you to oopidy dooper pooper
@ms.j34032 ай бұрын
I eat babies
@elliottlava77842 ай бұрын
At this point I've given up believing that toby fox is a human being like no, you can't just make my favourite video game, then my other favourite video game, and then my other favorite video game and then it comes out that you've been foreshadowing this shit since 2011 and that secrets in the game are still coming out like you're only allowed to do one of those things 💀💀💀
@qiriq_q2 ай бұрын
If you go a little further than "oh, he inserted Penumbra Phantasm into Hopes and Dreams", then you can see almost 100% similarity of the segment 00:22 - 00:45 with the main motif of Penumbra And if you also take the fact that at the end of Penumbra you can hear something similar to the main melody of Undertale, then you can catch yourself on very interesting reflections
@potatofarmer94882 ай бұрын
PENUMBRA PHANTASM!!!!!!
@FatherDingbag2 ай бұрын
Thank you so very very much! Im using this to back my synth
@colon442 ай бұрын
nice bea- holy SHIT is that Penumbra Phantasm???!!?!!?!!!!
@stallover74632 ай бұрын
It's you. Only you. Nothing else matters anymore. Except... Your thoughts. Your bad memories are slowly taking over you as *WE* speak. *Is this YOUR fate?*
@ObtuseWaffle_2 ай бұрын
0:26 for myself
@fluoriteByte2 ай бұрын
This and gaster's theme being based on an unreleased tumblr tracks that was then uploaded to the homeztuck soundtest library means that deltarune will become tumblr in 2014
@luxentmacaroni17 күн бұрын
Which unreleased gaster Tumblr track are you talking about??
@fluoriteByte16 күн бұрын
@@luxentmacaroni Forest Dreams - Homestuck Sound Test
@ObtuseWaffle_2 ай бұрын
0:39 for myself
@chandler-xy2qg2 ай бұрын
NO WHY IS THIS ACUTALLY SAD MAGDELENE (isaac's mom's presumed name (i think???)) SAYS GOOD JOB TO ISAAC ITSOIJSNOEIJDFNVOIJENFDOVIENFFOIBJDNOVFIIDVNGOIJBNDOGIFJ
@benjii_12 ай бұрын
this is NOT how they described it 🔥🔥
@jamierootwo2 ай бұрын
@@benjii_1 👣
@somedriftguy38493 ай бұрын
you don't need to ask how much I needed this
@IgorAbdurahmanov-c9d3 ай бұрын
you've lost hope... but with your determination... you can still do this...
@IgorAbdurahmanov-c9d3 ай бұрын
why is this good?
@GSavel3 ай бұрын
Further plot twist: the leitmotif being present is actually because Asriel absorbed Clover's SOUL, since the motif (used in UT:Y as the Wild East motif) from Clover's portion of the Omega Flowey battle originates from Homestuck
@lartts7483Ай бұрын
UTY is not canon
@sahilhossain82043 ай бұрын
Lore of A CYBER'S WORLD? (SNOWGRAVE alt) DELTARUNE momentum 100
@dsek85623 ай бұрын
How do u get this song? or where this song start playing?
@Swingylad3 ай бұрын
leirsa
@Dzanimations4 ай бұрын
Hey do you mind if I use this song in a video?
@jamierootwo4 ай бұрын
sure
@asteroid8894 ай бұрын
Fun fact: In the original song, you can hear the penumbra phantasm leitmotif easier by removing your left earphone
@Sebastian_guy11 күн бұрын
im cooked bro the left earphone is the only one that works 😿🙏
@ugiugiyogyn.4 ай бұрын
1:19 ON "SHADOW'S EDGE". SHATTER THE TWILIGHT REVERIE.
@NotLancer20184 ай бұрын
Whether this is slightly off or not, I like this even if you think of it as a remix