Glad you enjoyed it!

Definitely! The hike down and up is a challenge, but it’s beautiful down at the creek. You could explore that part all day and not get bored.

I’ve read that enlightened equipment has the same issue, but I would trade a few extra ounces to not have this problem.

Thank you!

We made it! Woo-hoo!

@@shutupandhike good for you!! I have not made a video in a while and they are still tossing a few dollars my way.. keep it up.

When the weather is good, it looks like a tropical paradise (although the water is very cold).

Thanks for watching! It is definitely one of the most beautiful places in the US!

Don’t worry, almost nobody watches our videos 🤣

part if me wants to agree with you but as my great great grandfather John L fish founder of the lakeside area, he said sometimes having some new people around can't be that all that bad.. I replied without hesitation and said ya well if we could screen them and make sure they're like minded people..lol.. but unfortunately we can't and that's why part of me agrees with ya to a point

@shutupandhike you guys get an automatic pass as far as I'm concerned you guys look like your fun to be around and you guys know what respect is especially in the outdoors which is all I need to know to get a pass from me

A lot of people make similar comments on our other videos, telling us to stop showing everybody where all the cool spots are. I figure if it's on AllTrails and KZbin and easily located on Google Maps, I'm not really giving away any secrets. But still, I do sympathize with these comments. The internet has made it really easy to explore the wilderness, and it must be frustrating for people who had to do it the hard way. And now, because it's so easy, you have annoying desert dwellers like me coming around and making stupid videos. We do try to leave places cleaner than we found them, and we are starting to create videos that encourage others to do the same. So hopefully, if somebody visits the White Mountains because of this video, they will be respectful guests to your home. I ultimately want people to get out there and experience the amazing wilderness that is all over Arizona. For me, it's everything. Living in Phoenix is hard. It's hot, dirty, and crowded. But, in addition to our local desert mountains (that are too hot half the year), you can drive for a few hours in almost any direction and ascend a REAL mountain and find trees and streams and fresh air and life, and it's less expensive than therapy.

@shutupandhike I do agree I have a home also in gilbert because my family after they closed down Southwest lumber my dad started building custom basement homes down in the valley including one for us to come and go while growing up making working in the summertime a must at age 13 so when I was able to legally drive I was taking my friends I made down there and took them up ther for weekends to escape the heat and alot of my friends were shocked by the temperature change which led to quite a few families getting ther own places up ther over the years.. im not against people discovering it but I'm against the type of people that just do whatever they want and they don't respect the land and tge people which I think is a common courtesy thing which unfortunately there are a few more than one might think which those people can got somewhere else imo.. the white mountains is sacred in a way because it's shared with alot of reservation land that welcome people to enjoy their land also and only ask to please stay out of and off ther certain sacred areas that are burial sites and what not that's why ther marked off limits on maps and by signs as you wonder about but other than that I'm all for people getting out and seeing some of Arizona's best kept secrets I only ask that you do it with respect and leave it either the way you found it or better it's not too much to ask I love your guys videos and you guys do a very good job of showing the way to enjoy it so it can remain that way for generations to come

Subaru can call us and offer a replacement car if they want…..

I’m sure you could, but we didn’t see any campsites. I wouldn’t backpack near the trail because it’s too popular. Maybe if you explore past the end of the trail you could find some seclusion.

Unfortunately no. Further upstream, near Point Trail and Maxwell Trail, we have seen bear poop, and near Maiden Falls we have heard mountain lions, but we have yet to actually see any large mammals at West Clear Creek.

Growing up in that area sounds awesome. We would like to live near the White Mountains someday.

@shutupandhike it's definitely seems like it's not part of the same state as down in the valley, I have a house in gilbert too and it's strange you can hardly get a neighbor to wave back at ya let alone say hi.. it didn't use to be that way, but anywhere I go up there everybody has nothing but time it seems and will wave & talk your ear off about anything if you let them.. lol.. anyways I enjoy your videos and never hesitate to move there if you find a deal or a way take it

We welcome all comments and we love bunnies, but not for dinner 😆

Thanks! We had fun making this one 😁

The fact that a permit isn’t required is one of the best things. They require actual planning, and that’s a pain. Didn’t know that about crawdads!

Cool! Was it the one with the rock table and chairs? We discovered that one on our second trip, but haven’t camped there since.

No idea, you’ll have to tell us!

Awesome!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks! I like the old name too, but we reach a wider audience with the new name. We want to do the jug, but we haven’t gotten to it yet. Hopefully next year!

That's great! But, how do you keep out the cold and rain without suffocating yourself? With all the comments on this video, nobody has explained that yet 😆

@shutupandhike A frame tarp works but I stick the bivy inside my ultralight tipi tent.

I hear ya, but the problem with this particular bivy that I showed in this video (having to choose between freezing or suffocating) would only be exaggerated above the tree line.

I think the best water for swimming that is close to town is the Salt River. I would check out Phon D Sutton, or any of the Salt River recreation areas along N Bush Hwy. Butcher Jones is also a good spot if you want to jump in a lake instead of a fast flowing river.

I’ll definitely try that one!

@@catzcradle Dang! That is a failure you don’t want when you are outside with limited clothing and hygiene options! I was hoping that it was just a matter of finding the correct one for your shape, but it doesn’t sound like that’s the issue.

Mt Baldy exhausts my everything. The elevation makes it so much harder.

We do it so you don’t have to!

That is likely to happen if you are there on a weekend. On a weekday you have a pretty good shot.

I was testing it's durability. 😁 Still works!