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@johngeilo9833
@johngeilo9833 3 күн бұрын
hey Tosan. I am big fan of u playing wow arena ur great and i enjoy ur personality very much. but i stopped playing wow like 10 years ago. i only watched ur introduction of this video and u motivated me to say the dumbest s..t u ever seen in ur life here in the comment section. hmmm, i know sometimes u like trump. i say trump is baaaad... religious people are supporting him and fundamentalist and religious people should not rule ur state. love from switzerland, jonny
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV 3 күн бұрын
Hello, You're perfectly entitled to your opinion! I don't hate you for it, but the only way to think Trump is bad is if you believe what corrupt/biased news media tells you. Life under Trump was 10x better than it is now, and 10x better than it was with Obama. People care too much about feelings and not enough about facts. People let their emotions be manipulated which is to the great detriment of every country on earth. P.S. Christian nations have pretty much been the best civilizations on earth historically, so although extreme religious zealotry is bad, not all religions are the same. Nations founded on Christianity have historically produced the greatest qualities of life with very few exceptions (Japan is awesome).
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV 3 күн бұрын
P.S.S. Switzerland is beautiful, I hope mass immigration doesn't ruin it like Sweden :D
@anthonyredding8145
@anthonyredding8145 Ай бұрын
Tosan* just jackhammering this advice into our brains
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
classic jackhammering
@Lavakun
@Lavakun Ай бұрын
Bring back the good ol' days..Booi you rock! Wanna get me bumhole galaxyfisted <3
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
lmao wtf
@omarsaleh2985
@omarsaleh2985 Ай бұрын
asking for the comeback of good ol' Galaxyfist! The guy that got me to WW monk!
@ShariefSaleh
@ShariefSaleh Ай бұрын
Petition to bring back the glory days of "Galaxyfist"! "Holy shit, this is boring, gotta kick some ass!"
@ShariefSaleh
@ShariefSaleh Ай бұрын
Been searching for this video all morning!!! Finally found it! You are the reason I played WW monk since MoP till now. Miss you bro ❤️
@BloodPlusPwn
@BloodPlusPwn Ай бұрын
If you don't have the time to level then wtf do you have the time to do in the game at all?
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Play arena for 1-2 hours at a time? The argument isn't even about "I literally cannot find the time to level" anyway, that's a bit of a strawman. It's like, if you want to go play basketball with the bros but you are required to do 6 hours of data entry first.....it's not that you don't have 6 hours, but why would you want to do that? JUST TRYNA BALL WITH THE BROS
@BloodPlusPwn
@BloodPlusPwn Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV Then don't play the game. Calling for changes to a game you don't enjoy is exactly how retail evolved into the pile of shit it was for awhile. They've made a lot of good strides towards making it better over dragonflight and so far in TWW but leveling was always just part of the experience. WoW never was and never should be an esports style game like LoL or whatever. It was designed to be a long, slow, progressive experience of character growth from day one and every step taken from that has lowered the quality of the game. Like I get it but I think you just want the game to be something it ain't.
@fandaklada609
@fandaklada609 Ай бұрын
Honestly i would remove leveling at this point. Just create 80 lvl and start playing.... But that is no money from boosting..
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
I'd be hella down for no leveling xD make it optional, gaming has evolved, MMO's in the classic sense don't work because life is too hectic these days for that slow and relaxed, long adventure style for most people. MOST gamers are "casual" these days, there are some hardcore gamers but they're not all playing MMO's and certainly not for leveling en mass. Ppl be like "but it's an MMO leveling is supposed o be a big part of it!" - yeah historically, but why is WoW basically the only successful MMO at all these days? So many MMO's have failed, even the ppl who like classic and play classic servers are a tiny minority of gamers overall, so yes it's okay to like that style, but from a marketing perspective it doesn't make sense to cater to a tiny minority of gamers imo. I'm not saying remove it, but I'd be totally fine if it was optional, ppl who wanna grind slow levels and roleplay - go for it! But people who just want to immediately hop into endgame? I'd be down. Remember the Arena Pass servers? Just immediately make a full lvl character and full gear and hop into arena? Those were super popular servers. Options are good!
@fandaklada609
@fandaklada609 Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV Yeah, i actually played at WoW Arena master free wotlk server back in time. You just created lvl 80 with Relentles equip and go right into BG's and arena. Those were golden times.
@austinfogwell5864
@austinfogwell5864 Ай бұрын
I think these people are crazy. Now I do wish that when blizzard introduced cataclysm again they made it separate where players could play classic through Wrath. And then have an option to go into cata sorta like the did when they introduced burning crusade I guess.
@alexrompen805
@alexrompen805 Ай бұрын
Its just another pay to win example.... pay extra to get faster levelling.... I was on the fence about buying this xpac, but this sealed it for me... fuck Blizzard, fuck this company period... this is just another symptom of a problem thats plagued the company for a decade and changing to Microass ownership is clearly not changing the course...
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Yeah, although I don't think this particular change is nearly their worst offense, just in general they've gone down hill in a lot of ways. Sad though cause I grew up playing Blizzard games since Warcraft 2 and Rock & Roll Racing. Activision Blizzard is a different company entirely though.
@nopenever9052
@nopenever9052 Ай бұрын
Sorry so damn true
@anass659
@anass659 Ай бұрын
At this point its just a trend to hate on blizzard istg
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Who is hating on blizzard in this context? I mean, there's plenty of good reasons to slam blizzard but I'm curious where you perceived that specifically in this context.
@anass659
@anass659 Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV i wasn’t talking about you
@WoWDontu
@WoWDontu Ай бұрын
*munches on popcorn*
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
They don't call you the snackmaster for nothin
@ryanfry1390
@ryanfry1390 Ай бұрын
I enjoy leveling, exploring more and shit
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Nothin wrong with that! Just saying it shouldn't be forcefully made slower (like some ppl saying it should be more like classic, when there's already classic as an option). I'd be for more storyline stuff but they already put probably maximal writing time/editing time into campaign and cinematics since they always release new ones with each major patch/raid release, so I doubt they can even add more to that really.
@aaronburnett1131
@aaronburnett1131 Ай бұрын
So, I leveled 4 toons in the early access in the same amount of time it taking me to do 1...... I have a 15% buff. I can't kill anything and it takes FOREVER. pretty fucking lame to be honest.
@auminne8500
@auminne8500 Ай бұрын
A big part that played into the nerf happening was because a lot of the people that didn't get early access complained that a bunch of the early access people were already 80 and/or had multiple level 80s. So that plus people just boosting to 80 with level locked 70s in dungeons made Blizzard change it, I don't even think it was gonna be changed until all the people started whining about it, especially the people who though going into launch with warmode on was a smart idea and then just got farmed by the level 80s. They just decided the best course of action was to whine and complain about it until they realized too late that they just nerfed their own leveling speed and they were setting themselves even further back and now are upset that the nerf happened.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Accurate analysis I think
@JJ-pu4wc
@JJ-pu4wc Ай бұрын
How easy do you complainers want the game? Questing is way too easy!!! Should be harder like classic, where you actually have to use your brain to play. How brain dead do you want the game?
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Who's complaining? If you like classic go play classic, or do you not actually like classic? I don't understand, why do you want retail to be the same as classic? Leveling in classic wasn't hard, you're confusing "difficult" with "slow" I think
@teh_MBA
@teh_MBA Ай бұрын
Blizzard 100% lied about the XP. I've done 3x the dungeons, 2x as many delves, and more quests than on my initial 80. With the 5% xp increase on my alt and more xp granting outlets, i'm still only halfway through 79. There is no shot they didn't touch xp.
@dabndangle
@dabndangle Ай бұрын
Nah man lvling fast a f. I have 8 80s already. All I did was main quest while dungeon queuing.
@jeremyrichard2722
@jeremyrichard2722 Ай бұрын
I think Tosan misses a big part of the problem, as does Blizzard. One problem with long term MMOs is that as they get older they have a tendency to want to bring players all up to the same endgame, but technically have the previous content in the game. This also let's them focus on new content for one specific thing. It's also to be fair, a bit easier to design endgame content designed to be super challenging for characters with the entire tool set, and know what they are doing, than content like that for lower characters with limited tool sets. The thing is, MMOs are a community, and it creates an issue for people who have played a long time, and had to put serious effort into previous content. A lot of people, including me to a large extent, think that making character advancement easier, and not requiring people to put in tons of time to get to the current endgame, is a problem. It both leads to vast amounts of neglected content (though Blizzard did start doing a rotation thing), and people not understanding things like lore, storylines, and even how to properly play their characters in a wide array of circmstances. I very much think that someone just deciding they want a healer, and being able to have one accessing endgame in a week tops (and that's slow in many cases) is a real issue. Not to mention "skilled raiders" are typically those who learned through the evolution of content. The "bad" players are oftentimes people who had to learn the current stuff, which assumes previous learning, flat out. "Dont' stand in the fire" is so hard for some people (leading to much yelling) because of freaking newbs don't understand all the options for their character, including stuff like mobility and when to use it, nor have they seen other tricks involving "the fire" that your supposed to know, to help you have develop skills to adapt to the latest one. Sure, it can be taught, but it is annoying for everyone else. Basically I think leveling should be harder and harder, as should gearing, as more content is added, to spread the player base through the content, as well as endure everyone knows what they are doing in the current endgame. No offense, but fighting gods and super villains should be earned, and this is a point people miss when they think leveling and gearing so they can see all the content and be there for the latest stuff, defeats the purpose. Not everyone should even be able to get to the endgame, after all.. .it's a game, and to be a game there has to be a lose condition, and in this case that would be "inability to progress". Death in an MMO is not a lose condition as it's just a temporary setback, short of blocking a player through their own inability to endure or learn, there is no way for a player to lose... people losing, and being able to lose is part of what adds the satisfaction to winning. It's a big part of why I became a filthy casual... beyond degenerative brain damage, if victory is inevitable and the barriers aren't strong enough, what is really the point? It's not like the old days... even in classic... where Razorgore really did effectively kill guilds, and being able to do BWL and get your T2 shoulders meant something, because so many people simply could not do that one fight (which was hard because it was an event requiring massive amounts of coordination by pretty much everyone). Basically, when games become for everyone, they become for no one. As successful as WoW still is, I think it has fallen off not just due to natural attrition, but by realizing it needed to chase the largest base of actually dedicated players, instead of trying to be for everyone, as the more causal players might have brought in bursts of money in the short term, but they do not stay around for consistent income. I think probably 90% of MMOs miss the point that they are in an endurance race, not a marathon, and it's slow and steady that is going to maximize income, not trying to grab all the money at once. They are going to in many cases be running 10 years or more. Getting a huge initial return from super casual players means crap if your game is barely holding n in five years and your begging management companies to consider buying it from you. With patience you could make more money, just over a period of time, and that includes feeding on the tears of the wrong kinds of customers which if nothing else will reinforce loyalty of the right kind who see you do it. Believe it or not, getting a player base to see itself as an elite and treating it that way, can be a great marketing tool, and certain kinds of "bad press" and "elitist hate" can pump it up by acting as the opposite for your actual paying customers. Of course it is too late for WoW... right now what it needs to do though is streamline it's entire intro experience to become new player friendly again given it's business model, and yes... perhaps become even more casual... so trying to wear both hats here and slow things down just isn't going to work. I can understand why they want to try though. WoW is an example of why trying to constantly adapt your business strategy based on short term greed is actually a terrible idea.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
I really thoughtful and well articulated post, I'll reply when I have a bit more time since it's big, but I appreciate your passion!
@BADGIZM0
@BADGIZM0 Ай бұрын
i made it from 70-80 in 2 (1 1/2)days just doing the story. full pvp set next day. i dont think its a big issue. the quests are actually fun this coming from someone who stopped playing dragonflight a week in and just picked up the expansion 3 days ago.
@oeheaven
@oeheaven Ай бұрын
The WoW community has been like this since Vanilla one wants it the other does not. The community is not that great and that is why WoW struggles to bring in new players or new players start the game only to get ridiculed for not knowing the latest blue post. It makes me sad to be honest.
@zizilioziz4532
@zizilioziz4532 Ай бұрын
5:00 >Buy early access retail to get "ahead" >New xpac lvling has taken 1 day for the past decade >87.5% of character level can be bought via boost in store >"abuse" method to increase speed of the remaining 12.5% >Advocate nerfs afterwards to justify purchase >lol @ money savers Makes sense.
@nordfald3740
@nordfald3740 Ай бұрын
i genuinely think the nerf was unwarranted, but the nerf is nowhere near as big as people seem to think. i've leveled a char after the nerf and it was like 1 hour or so slower than before, when just running dungeons back to back with a group.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Yeah it's not a big difference at all, I just think ppl who are saying it should be like classic are bonkers, like go play classic if you wanna play classic feelme
@machopi
@machopi Ай бұрын
of course it matters 'how do we make WW more fun?' '...hmm...oh i know, let's nerf everybody, slow down the grind and prolong the content chewing, that'll get them all hot and bothered!' pathetic
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Yeah I mean they've openly admitted to stuff like that in other games like Diablo 4. I remember shortly after launch there was this major broad nerf patch that basically just made everyone weaker because they didn't want people to reach end game fast and realize there's almost no end game content. Classic!
@machopi
@machopi Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV peak big budget slop moment
@bigbobam8857
@bigbobam8857 Ай бұрын
Went back and watched the original. Good video. People should watch and really try to understand.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
I'm not saying ppl need to watch my video, but I feel that's a fair prerequisite before they lose their minds in the comments amirite
@bigbobam8857
@bigbobam8857 Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV yep, if your gonna comment, at least watch the whole thing :)
@bigbobam8857
@bigbobam8857 Ай бұрын
Saw that you had the tweet up that i replied to. Was curious to see if i was used, but alas, i was not "que price is right loss sound" 😅. Sorry your tweet hot so much hate Tosan.
@POTHEAD707
@POTHEAD707 Ай бұрын
2:00 If you liked Ultima Online you should try UOOutlands free server
@blofelde3801
@blofelde3801 Ай бұрын
its clear from the comments that this guy made the video for rage bait, let this comment be the last he gets out of this and move on so we dont see more of this crap (youtube works off engagement now, ignore the troll and move on :P)
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
UMAD? Sounds like you took it something in here personally.....maybe some introspection would help
@blofelde3801
@blofelde3801 Ай бұрын
​@@TosanTribeTV only replying coz I'm entertained reading every response you made in the comments, but almost every word you have said is flaming anyone who even slightly disagrees with your point: "Idk how ppl can be this retarded and not even realize it. You're whining about whining that never even happened. Perhaps you whine so often that you can't help but see it all around you?" direct quote, from you, and all it took was half a second of scrolling, now i don't really care, as i said I'm here watching on the sidelines enjoying the show, but don't you think you are being a little obvious with the rage baiting? :D you have responded to 90% of the comments made, which i get probably wasn't that hard considering the uh... scale of your channel, but even still it screams desperation :D either way, thanks for the entertaining show, its always interesting whenever youtube throws one of these random videos my way when i haven't watched anything even slightly related! (btw yes i have played TWW, I've made multiple level 80s and got to 80 even faster than my friend who bought early access on my first character! In terms of time taken of course, not saying i hit 80 before he did. so really it seems to me that blizzard made a slight tweak to fix some cheese, a couple of people got butt hurt and you latched onto the subject like a man dying from thirst reaching water) this whole argument has basically been blizzard releasing the game early in a broken state, realizing that as per usual there were problems, and fixing it for the vast majority of people, then people whining because blizzard fixed their game? like, 1, all this means is you don't have to find a level 70 to boost you through dungeons now, 2, you have more of a game to play and can actually, idk, do the story, of an RPG?, 3, the season hasn't even started, and wont for another week, so why does it matter to begin with whether you hit 80 or not, hurray you are 80, you can do 8 dungeons for the week and then not touch the game till the season starts! oh well, keep arguing fellas, whether you realize the holes in your argument or not, its fun to watch either way.
@musicilike69
@musicilike69 Ай бұрын
Hmmmm. Nerfed? Nuh huh. PLAN. This is not the devs btw but marketing and finance with probably a psychologist advising. You buy early access and levelling is a breeze . I side eye a mob and it detonates. Game goes live to the general players and they get a nice taste of how easy it is then BANG, nerfed. Solution, buy early access.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
A lot of companies definitely do hire psych experts for this reason haha
@nickthebold
@nickthebold Ай бұрын
who cares leveling is still super smooth and easy
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Yes. Not the point though. I swear it's like I'm not speaking English at all it seems like, or no one watching speaks English as a first language. Can you time-stamp the part of the video where I said leveling is hard or too slow? Maybe I was drunk and said that and don't remember, so I'd appreciate if you could point that out. It's not about the change itself, it's about the discourse about the change - the change itself is irrelevant, I couldn't have made that any more clear. I am starting to think people see thumbnail and immediately race to the comments without even watching it. Can you confirm for me if that's what you did? It's a genuine question cause that's the only logical explanation for so much confusion happening.
@NickPCage
@NickPCage Ай бұрын
I don't see a problem i leveled 4 toons to 80 already..Your whining is bothering me though.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Idk how ppl can be this retarded and not even realize it. You're whining about whining that never even happened. Perhaps you whine so often that you can't help but see it all around you? Not once in this video did I complain about the rate of leveling, I even stated multiple times that it won't matter. The reason I stated it multiple times is because there are so many sub 80 IQ wow players that I knew would struggle with comprehension, but alas, I should maybe repeat it 10 or 20 times for the exceptionally slow individuals. You either didn't watch the video at all or you're extremely impaired, those are the only possibilities.
@NickPCage
@NickPCage Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV you made a video and whined thru the whole video about leveling..its not that big a deal i managed to level 4 toons to 80 already in the past 4 days..so suck it up.
@notkiroo
@notkiroo Ай бұрын
Fuck the poor people. You want fast leveling, buy the epic version next time.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
true and real, keep those stinky poors away from me!
@Lothnar5070
@Lothnar5070 Ай бұрын
Levelling in retail is a joke. I play classic and it's all part of the fun, the journey, retail I can level up half asleep while washing the dishes. The classes are homogenised to the point I'm not sure what class I'm playing. It's all about rushing to max level asap just to run a dungeon/raid 136 times fighting the same boss to get a key off him so you can fight him again. And the stories are about the horde and alliance holding hands singing Kumbaya. So complaining about the "difficulty" of levelling in modern wow is like asking for a lift to avoid using a step ladder.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
No one is complaining about the difficulty of leveling. I appreciate your input but I feel like you didn't even watch the vid. No one complained about the difficulty brother. Point of this video has almost nothing to do with the change itself as I think the "leveling nerf" is barely a change at all, it's more so the mentality that people have regarding "I think it should be slower and everyone should enjoy it as much as me, my way or the highway, no one else's opinions or preferences matter!" The "horde and alliance holding hands singing kumbaya" gave me a chuckle though :P But regarding people rushing to max lvl asap, that kinda shows the point I'm making. Someone else in a comment said "they probably nerfed it cause me and my guildies blasted to max lvl in 2 hours". My question is, why is it a bad thing? If ppl don't want to blast through it they don't have to, but it's nice that those who want to blast through it can, isn't it? Variety is the spice of life. Choices and options are good!
@brianshrimp5824
@brianshrimp5824 Ай бұрын
Im still mad at the tank nerfs.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
FUCK TANKS
@mitchruby4716
@mitchruby4716 Ай бұрын
My friends leveled after the “leveling nerf” and have had 0 issues. A lot of people in game and in many guilds couldn’t care less - everyone got their toons up when content first dropped if you pre-ordered it and got the pre-access. Takes a few hours to level. And now dark moon fair is out to speed that up more. Seems like this video is view bait
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
You didn't watch it it seems at all, maybe just commented after seeing the thumbnail? It's not about leveling being hard or too slow, I literally said multiple times it won't make a real difference because leveling is super fast these days and will at most add another 1-2 hours to the process. Not the point at all, I feel like no one has functional ears or just English comprehension. Maybe language barrier, not sure, but this is not the point. The point is people reacting to the change are being met with logical fallacies and selfish ideals. "I like leveling, therefore everyone should like leveling like me, because I'm the main character and I'm the only one who matters." The point is, it's perfectly reasonable for ppl to not enjoy leveling, and people pretending you're "wrong" for not enjoying leveling is incoherent, selfish rubbish. "I like chocolate ice cream, if you like vanilla ice cream you're wrong and stupid, every ice cream should be chocolate". Ppl saying "I wish retail had leveling like classic" - oh, so options and choices and variety are bad? Everything should be like classic? Why even have a retail if you want to make it exactly like classic. I'm strictly calling out the dumb logic being used, I don't care about the minor leveling change one bit.
@mitchruby4716
@mitchruby4716 Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV I don't think the video needed to be made at all. Leveling is just fine.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
@@mitchruby4716 I don't think you needed to comment at all, yet here you are....It's not really about need, you don't need to play WoW but you do. Silly way to look at things, needs and wants are not the same. Also you're still missing the point, I never said leveling wasn't fine, how are people so unable to comprehend, I didn't even use any big words! Is English your 4th language or something? I could understand a language barrier getting in the way of understanding but you're literally misunderstanding every part of it. Is it intentional, trolling perhaps?
@mitchruby4716
@mitchruby4716 Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV Then if leveling is fine there was no need to say it was hard. No one else is struggling but you it seems.
@danielkovacz3093
@danielkovacz3093 Ай бұрын
Totally agree with you on these ppl. Most of them complained before actually do the leveling process (before or after the change), and the plus is: People are used to be blizzard haters, no mather what blizz do, ppl give the hate speech. I have friends that used to play the game and now that the expansion is good (so far), they are unable to make a simple compliment about the game, just to save the energy to hate something later when they get the chance. These guys don't play the game, they just talk shit.
@SheewdoodleFB
@SheewdoodleFB Ай бұрын
It’s cause people like me and my guild leveled to 80 in 2 hours using level 70s cause there damage was 4mil dps in dungeons with 20% xp buff 😆 than when they hit level 71-72 we swap them out. It’s a good thing it was nerfed.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
That's good, leveling is a chore, it should be fast, there's a reason ppl like you and your guild blast through it as fast as humanly possible :) If it was super fun you wouldn't maximize power leveling, would you?
@SheewdoodleFB
@SheewdoodleFB Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV idk a few of us already got all the quests done none left rep is all at renown 10+ on all factions. Got the rare 10/10 shard mount the rare mount and the bee mount. Not much left to do other than max toons out now. Season 1 hasn’t dropped yet. We all 585-587 ilvl on at least 2 toons. But 2 hours was a bit fast in my opinion now it takes about 5-6 hours to 70-80 and I like that.
@seanheisey8645
@seanheisey8645 Ай бұрын
A very vocal minority online are mad. Almost no one in game cares.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Well I mean unless you take some sorta survey it'd be hard to know the actual number, lots of ppl complain but are still gonna play, most ppl don't type about it in chat 24/7 (in-game is not nearly as social as it was historically when the internet was "smaller"). Most people if they're gonna complain are gonna do it on forums and reddit, etc.
@seanheisey8645
@seanheisey8645 Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV ya just based off discord, gchat, general chat etc I just don’t see much complaining. But yes forums and Reddit people go to vent. I just don’t think most players in game, are actively on Reddit or most forums. My discord reference is primarily the guild discord or group finding discords. No one seems to be complaint about lvl 70-73 being harder.
@SyuSept
@SyuSept Ай бұрын
This decision by Blizzard is logic and makes total sense. I don't see the problem here.
@musicilike69
@musicilike69 Ай бұрын
Really? You don't see that they made early access and easy levelling a gimmick for sale with advance notice that if you plan to do it the old way levelling is 3 times more time consuming?
@danielkovacz3093
@danielkovacz3093 Ай бұрын
@@musicilike69 3 times more time consuming equals how much time? cause in 3 hours you could get 80, now it is 9hours or so....this changes nothing cause any player (even starting now) can reach 80, get gear (pvp gear you get all slots in 1 day), and be ready to mythic dg or start normal raiding by the time it releases. Professions work the same way. So...what is the complain?
@musicilike69
@musicilike69 Ай бұрын
@@danielkovacz3093 So you bought early access and didn't see the baited hook?
@danielkovacz3093
@danielkovacz3093 Ай бұрын
@@musicilike69 i still don't get what you complained about. Did you level on early access or standard? If it was standard, did you feel that you somehow fell behind in progress?
@dotkittyraptor
@dotkittyraptor Ай бұрын
That wasnt the point of the nerf, the point was to prevent people from using level 70 characters to boost people to max level. I guess that makes me a shill.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
I never claimed that was the point of the nerfs, I was just saying why I think it's weird people are defending it using a poor personalized argument (you're the first person to mention this so it's not the overarching logic).
@TempoNama
@TempoNama Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV Your entire video is your subjective opinion derived from both your own POV and that of sweaty nerds on Reddit and Wowhead forums. Don't grandstand thinking you're some pantheon of reason.
@Kenten87
@Kenten87 Ай бұрын
Imagine living a life where this is your biggest problem... jeeezzz!
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Are you saying ppl should only talk about their biggest problems in life and nothing else? Nice point of view!! "There is a dead fly in my soup.......but it's not my largest single problem so I guess I won't mention it" Very astounding logic!
@Kenten87
@Kenten87 Ай бұрын
​@@TosanTribeTV Given that you're "grown" man crying over it for 10 minutes, seems like its a big problem to you.. they adjusted the experience of the game.. You can still get max level in few hours 😂 Its for the better of the game experience.. 6+ Hours to max level is not a lot.. 😂
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
​@@Kenten87 You're a grown man crying on a youtube comment. See how that works? Unironically using 2004 internet trash talk is embarrassing brother. You didn't even watch the vid or listen to anything I said, based on your incoherent response. I reiterated 100 times in the vid that I don't actually care about the change myself and I'm targeting the low IQ logic being used. I don't know how you missed it, unless you didn't actually watch the vid at all, or perhaps you had the audio muted and you were trying to lip-read? Please time-stamp in the video where I said leveling is too slow or any part of the video where I said the change hurts me at all lmao. Not once in the vid did I say leveling is slow or hard, not a single time. You completely missed the point. I'd recommend watching it again with the audio unmuted so you could better understand.
@TempoNama
@TempoNama Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV Quit playing then instead of throwing a hissy fit. Grown man spending his time crying online in hopes of profit through adsense. Do something productive.
@asKiFTW
@asKiFTW Ай бұрын
not sure why ppl still play that xd
@LlamaIndustruies
@LlamaIndustruies Ай бұрын
lmao i didn't know you played UO. I remember wep leveling by .1 to 120. haha
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
Bruh ppl don't know grinds like the UO grinds.....8x8 botting to try to eek out those last levels (it never seemed to work for me).
@briankramer8737
@briankramer8737 Ай бұрын
The answer to that question every single time if you have to ask is is yes. They are delusional shill blizzard defenders
@InvadersDie
@InvadersDie Ай бұрын
Ever since the release of cataclysm I've been playing on a naked character with xp locked. I've been chasing max level for the last 14 years. I cannot relate to these people saying leveling is too fast.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
hahahaha
@OGEETOMO
@OGEETOMO Ай бұрын
- New arena maps & BG's should be part of the campaign because facilitating some trial solicitation into PVP CONTENT NOT JUST PVE should exist, they made me do this delves why not new BG's and arena maps - maybe against bots if they have to. - People that want the game to go slow levelling are trying to hostage other players. 1) Most of these talking points they argue with weren't even their own ideas they just brainwashed themselves watching classic Andy content from stupid influencers. 2) Most of the influencers saying this stuff aren't even playing the game anymore.
@musicilike69
@musicilike69 Ай бұрын
Agree.
@teh_MBA
@teh_MBA Ай бұрын
It's the same thing they did in WoD with flying. "I like the feel of being land locked so I want to force everyone else to do it too"
@xxAmiir24xx
@xxAmiir24xx Ай бұрын
punishing the poor ? :))
@frostgodx
@frostgodx Ай бұрын
I wish i leveled during early access instead of planning it out now my 6 hours 70-80 takes 8.5 hours (for what fucking reason??) I enter a dungeon and the healer says "some of us want to enjoy our fucking experience stop pulling the entire floor already and lose the ego" WHAT?????
@nickjackaon8111
@nickjackaon8111 Ай бұрын
It still takes like no time to level people are just babies
@frostgodx
@frostgodx Ай бұрын
im a baby and the change is fucking trash
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
I mean 6-10 hours isn't nothing for someone who is generally very busy, for me it's not much but ppl with families and full time jobs it's a pain
@TempoNama
@TempoNama Ай бұрын
@@TosanTribeTV You're pretending like the goal of the game is to level as fast as possible. 6-10 hours even for someone who can only game an hour a night would be able to level to max before M+ launches. People are crying because people like to cry.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV Ай бұрын
@@TempoNama Nah it's an incredibly unfun aspect of the game, it's just a chore you have to do if you want to do the actual activities. I don't personally mind it thatmuch, since they've made it faster and faster with every expansion (they wouldn't do this if it wasn't a boring chore that ppl hated, so that kinda proves even blizz thinks it's a chore, otherwise compare vanilla leveling to now). If leveling should be slower how come they've made it faster with each expansion? It's simply an outdated system. MMO's almost never survive in the last 10-15 years, I mean besides FF14 and WoW (and the popularity of the two is wildly different) there's no successful'ish MMO's in a long time. One could argue that the dated and boring leveling system is part of it. I understand that leveling "makes sense" in an MMO rpg but even UO had a better type of progression system. Things evolve, and something that was fun 20 years ago won't necessarily be fun now. Leveling is a very arbitrary "progression" system. For example, the point of "leveling" is supposed to increase in power for your character, and yet you actually get weaker as you level. I'm not sure you have even noticed but if I start the expansion with 30% haste 20% crit 30% vers 30% mastery, by the time I reach the new max level, those stats are more like 12% 15% 5% 6%. Rough estimate but pretty on point, even while replacing old gear with "better" gear. So it's not even an actual real character progression. It's just a psychological trick that used to feel like progression but ppl don't really fall for it anymore (most people...). It's nothing more than a time sink and the activity itself isn't really fun for most ppl after 20 years of doing it. Gaming has evolved and it's okay to change things that dont' make sense anymore.
@AliasEville
@AliasEville Ай бұрын
yea, dungeon leveling is still super fast
@PhalanxR
@PhalanxR 2 ай бұрын
I know its been years, im play era atm but do you remember how to spend your beast training points? I cant find a definitive guide on it, thank you.
@TosanTribeTV
@TosanTribeTV 2 ай бұрын
Sry, tbh I don't even remember if I did, I hardly remember that system at all haha