This sounds more like Projection than exxtrapolatin or speculation. There is only one historical example of a great culture turning away from exploration. One Chinese emperor burned the great trading vessles when he inherited power. Otherwise the Han would have discovered the west coast of the Americas and been the ocean spanning world power. In any case it's been done before. Ecotopia, Songs from the Stars by Norman Spinrad, Niven and Pournelle 's Angels Fall, etc. Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy and Ministry of the Future all envision a future of high tech and ecology. If you've actually ever investigated Gaian religions they are at their core organic and not like the desert religions with encorced dogman and it seems very unlikely they would become so. In any case we won't turn away from techology, we'll simply be focusing most of it on resscuing the biosphere as you say. We'll want to be in space to tap its resources.
@blanketfortressofsolitude52702 ай бұрын
@melbaker9495 Thank you so much for your insight!
@The_Zharan_Colonel29 күн бұрын
Hello! I'm the co-author on and creator of THE SPACERS SAGA. I'll echo my associate's compliment for your insightful comment, and offer some discussion of my own: The Community of Gaia, as I envision it now, was devised at the tail end of the 21st century as a stopgap measure to protect biodiversity and natural resources from the climate crisis. However, over the next two centuries, as space infrastructure developed and the nation-states of Solar Space grew in power, its own leaders grew more influential and gained more and more of a thirst for power (as is often the case). As each new generation of CoG leaders came to power, they turned more and more inward, focusing more on ruling Earth under the dogma of "Earth First" than on allying themselves with the burgeoning society beyond the homeworld. As a result, by the 24th century (when most of the story of THE SPACERS SAGA takes place), it was a full-fledged ecofascist totalitarian empire, with dogmatic ideologies held in place by a rigid and entrenched bureaucracy and a strict police state, nominally for the purpose of protecting the Earth but really so that the leadership could hold onto their power. As the old saying goes, "You don't install a dictatorship to safeguard a revolution; you have a revolution to install a dictatorship." The Progressive Order of Gaia emerged around the turn of the 24th century as a counter to this dynamic, and the relationship between the two has been fraught with tension. These tensions will lead to a conflict in the early to mid-25th century, as well, with the struggle between the ICA and the Alliance playing out in the late 24th century leading to another World War, this time between the CoG and the POG. ...but that's a story for another time 😉
@yeremydiaz57112 ай бұрын
wow
@blanketfortressofsolitude52702 ай бұрын
@yeremydiaz5711 thanks for watching!
@emilykeatase24033 ай бұрын
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@blanketfortressofsolitude52703 ай бұрын
@emilykeatase2403 thanks for watching!
@PatrickPerez-o1b3 ай бұрын
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@blanketfortressofsolitude52703 ай бұрын
@@PatrickPerez-o1b thanks for watching!
@agodcalleduvindi4 ай бұрын
It was really interesting to hear you two collaborate, as an aspiring writer who loves cowriting thank you for posting this!
@blanketfortressofsolitude52704 ай бұрын
@@agodcalleduvindi it is my absolute pleasure! Part 2 comes out tomorrow!
@DelilaSloan4 ай бұрын
Lol i just watched this episode. So many questions...
@blanketfortressofsolitude52704 ай бұрын
@@DelilaSloan Life moves pretty fast!
@DamienZshadow5 ай бұрын
Sounds captivating, like any good conspiracy. I could honestly imagine such an event causing a runaway series of other complex issues to arise.
@blanketfortressofsolitude52705 ай бұрын
@@DamienZshadow thank you so much!
@beingwithsagejakobi38236 ай бұрын
Am I a zarn?
@blanketfortressofsolitude52706 ай бұрын
That depends on your model number. Where was your production line? Mars?
@fredleggett92310 ай бұрын
It will always be the actor's lament to be typecast. However, to be able to inhabit a role that will remain in our collective mind's eye for decades to come has to be a gift. 99.9% of people live quiet, desperate lives and will never be remembered.
@blanketfortressofsolitude527010 ай бұрын
Agreed. If I could accomplish 1/10 of what Mr. Shatner has done, it'll be a life well spent.
@padawanporter10 ай бұрын
came for Shatner, stayed for B5. Loved the tangent, and what a shame if the masters truly are gone.
@blanketfortressofsolitude527010 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Shatner's second album, "Has Been," was the music of my junior year of high school.
@RobSandman10 ай бұрын
Absolutely not a negative, but you guys remind me of sitting around with my mates, talking about old movies and being surprised how much we remember of the 80's/90's shows we used to watch as little Irish feckers with only a couple of channels...getting something like *"Star Trek"* (any of them!) was a HUGE deal to us!, It was later in life that I got into *Babylon 5* and *Stargate* etc, through the same friend who later introduced me to *Firefly* ... amazing journeys learning about amazing journeys!
@blanketfortressofsolitude527010 ай бұрын
What a pleasure to welcome you to our channel. Thanks for watching!
@RobSandman10 ай бұрын
@@blanketfortressofsolitude5270 Thank you so much for the welcome and the "nostalgia induced binge watch fest" I'm going on as we speak!, gotta re-watch all of *Firefly* first, then probably get my *KHAAAAAAN* on and take it from there, your discussion is interesting and refreshing..., great work!
@blanketfortressofsolitude527010 ай бұрын
@@RobSandman Khan is the perfect movie. I could watch it every day.
@danielmertz156010 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening!
@-webster312011 ай бұрын
Remembers Space Above and Beyond?
@blanketfortressofsolitude527011 ай бұрын
Absolutely! That show was awesome!
@salparadise122011 ай бұрын
Brilliant name for the channel, by the way. An act of creative genius almost.
@blanketfortressofsolitude527011 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! That means a lot!
@blanketfortressofsolitude527010 ай бұрын
@@danrayson welcome! We're glad you're here!
@salparadise122011 ай бұрын
The real story in Bladerunner is we are but the sum of our memories, and if you implanted false memories into a mind capable of consciousness that it would A), make the individual who they think they are, and B) be indistinguishable from a real person with real memories and so therefore that raises the issue that, how do you know your own memories are real? The title of the story the film is based on, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep sees Deckard living in a world where there are no real animals available as pets, because they're so rare and thus so expensive, but robot copies are available. (Do you like our owl? "Is it real?" Of course it's real.) Whereas she, the woman saying that line, Rachel, wasn't.) And Deckard ultimately doesn't know if he's human, and if were an android would he be dreaming of owning an electric robot sheep, as he does. Which is a question he can't answer reliable. A film with something to say to a world where Alzheimers is robbing so many of their memories and so their identities.
@blanketfortressofsolitude527011 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to listen to this episode! We also have an episode on Electric Sheep that we just put out a few weeks ago if you're interested.
@The_Zharan_Colonel11 ай бұрын
Hello! This is Nick, co-host of the show and longtime fan of the film Blade Runner. I wanted to thank you for sharing your thoughtful comment and to offer my own discussion of the topic, which is in fact very near to my heart. In the Sci-Fi Film class where I met co-host and show creator Derwin, we covered A.I. in Cinema, and one of the key points I made in my classroom discussions and in the essays I wrote as part of the course assignments, I often reflected on the notion that if something is a perfect simulation of life, then where does the delineation cease to exist and instead give way to life in fact? With this in mind, your point about how we are all the sum of our memories is very apropos, as it reflects the idea that humans and replicants (or humans and zharans) are not as different as the former would like to assume, and in fact, may be separated only by an arbitrary distinction imposed by humanity. Thanks again for sharing your insight, and for taking the time to interact with the video - that really does mean the whole world :)