Interesting test, especially using the Samsung with external antennas, never have seen this on LTE. 5dB SNR seem like a good improvement for the LPDA.
@2626sylver2626Ай бұрын
Stop making that bloody noise with your mouth,are you sucking something when you are speaking or what?is very annoying
@suzanneBloem-qk9qnАй бұрын
Way to much talking about things that 99% of the people don't understand. Testing stuff should be explained easy.
@Phone_GeekАй бұрын
@suzanneBloem-qk9qn hi, I take your point. My intentions are to explain and provide some evidence of the reported benefits, so that people don't buy stuff that doesn't give them results purported. It's often easy to accept the views of those with millions of subscribers that don't actually have the technical know-how. If youve watched it, what were your reasons? I'd like to know so can review the 'style' of videos
@chronicsys2 ай бұрын
Brilliant video thanks, learned so much. Would you mind clarifying what lead you have used to connect the S3 to the smaller and Poynting antennas? Is it male FME to female SMA? Are the ports on the back of your S3 just plug-in or threaded? Happy to buy you a drink (or 2!) for your time. Thanks! ;)
@Phone_Geek2 ай бұрын
@chronicsys hi there sorry for late reply and thanks for watching! Yes the patch lead I use is plug in male FME to male SMA. I have an M-F sma adapter which might have been included I can't remember. Most external antenna these days are either sma or n-type
@chronicsysАй бұрын
@@Phone_Geek Amazing! Thank you so much. Super helpful. I reckon the rf plugs on the back of your phone are U.FL .... FME is threaded AFAIK.
@ellkir15212 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@KossuJahvetti3 ай бұрын
16dBi for log periodic? Can't get that even with frequency pinpointed yagi.
@eszesfilms16514 ай бұрын
can you recommend any type of log periodic antenna?
@eszesfilms16514 ай бұрын
My stats with my tp link modem without any external antenna: Signal Strength: 100% RSRP: -88dBm RSRQ: -8dB SNR: 18.0dB Can i boost on it with external? Because signal streght already 100% :O
@Phone_Geek4 ай бұрын
Hi there, those stats are great without external antenna. What sort of speeds are you getting and what LTE band is the router saying? I say this because higher speeds come from higher band like 2100mhz or 2600mhz. It can sometimes be better to have external antenna pointing to a weaker site but supports higher speeds
@ldwisebnoka45664 ай бұрын
Name of the product please? ☺️🙏🏻🙏🏻
@sandersonbastosdeholanda76065 ай бұрын
I buy a 42cm onmi that promises 18dBi even though I know it has lower performance than a log. The reasons are because my LTE modem for indoor or outdoor use has a heavy metal alloy bidirectional antenna attached and is awkward to sit on the outside of my passenger van. With onmi I don't have any higher gain, just the advantage of having an external antenna. compact, light where I can park the car in any position is an advantage. I still need to drive it to test performance in remote areas to prove any gains. For fixing to the roof of the house, unidirectional log is without a doubt better!
@reptileguerrara5 ай бұрын
Hey Edward! Like how much on average does signal loss occur per feet with that low quality cable comes with omnidirectional antenna you've tried? Thanks in advance.
@spike1785 ай бұрын
Will be getting 5g version soon already have good 5g signal though. Shame so expensive must be making massive profit.
@wandiletembe5 ай бұрын
👨🏿💻🍿 interesting
@cudknacks5 ай бұрын
Hello sir ... Videos have been very helpful... Can you please share the alibaba link to the special engineering handset you use...
@Phone_Geek5 ай бұрын
Hi there, thanks for watching! It gets hard to find them tbh. Search for "TEMS mobile". Bear in mind, mine is the last handset I know of with ports for external antennas. Its now 10yrs old now. There are newer ones but not with option for external antenna. Also, there is the option to patch the OS, but it might brick the phone and at least invalidate warranty. I can find link to details if u want
@cudknacks5 ай бұрын
@@Phone_Geek wow so the galaxy s3 is the last phone with an external antennae port.. I was wondering how Tems got these to connect to 4g since the models of Samsung s3 back then were not 4g capable devices .. People are still selling galaxy s3's on eBay but to go through the challenge of modifying the firmware to TEMS firmware just to use the external antenna port is another hell I may not wanna go through... I'll appreciate it heavily if you do post the link though..thank you
@wandiletembe5 ай бұрын
👨🏿💻🍿
@RupertCook7 ай бұрын
Hi Richard, many thanks and thumbs up for a decent video (complete with slow-mo). I need an omnidirectional antenna to move the 4g reception out of a constantly rotating metal box of a Tower Crane cab and into the open air. Currently using a TP link tl6400 4g router. I'm looking for a fairly cheap option as I believe just taking it out of the metal box will have significant improvements anyway. Currently looking at Amazon to provide a solution. Any help would be appreciated.
@Phone_Geek7 ай бұрын
Hi Rupert, do you mean like one of the building cranes at quite a height? If so 3 things. 1. Yes taking outside of the metal box of a cab will definitely help. 2) how high is your router now, I'd think you get great signal anyway... however 3) being at height will massively increase the interference, and while signal will be high, the rf noise will destroy your speed. Let us know bit more about crane, location generally. As for antenna, let us know above first, as situation drives antenna choice
@cinema_with_Adnan7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Guide.
@faa.93867 ай бұрын
❤
@bigeein7 ай бұрын
Can I have a link to Andrew McNeill’s channel . Thanks
@Phone_Geek7 ай бұрын
youtube.com/@andrewmcneil?si=DBy9E5NYY1yWPrTn
@bigeein7 ай бұрын
Thanks , I’ve found your videos more informative to my need. So thank you very much. With your reviews and others on you tube it has help me make an informed decision. I’m looking at the Poynting antenna and the Teltonika RUTX50. I am currently looking for a reliable retailer to purchase these items. The 5G Router has dropped in price considerably since your review. Please reach out if you have any advice on any other suitable products or retailers to contact . Thanks again Ian
@Phone_Geek7 ай бұрын
@bigeein thanks for the comments! you can buy antennas from poynting directly as I did. They also have deals or contacts with teltonika or did. Solwise and NetXL sell stuff and seem legit. I want to upgrade to a 4x4 mimo router and antenna. Teltonika seem best but more expensive. Worth considering ones with GPS antenna inputs, as synchronisation will be improved depending on your intended use
@bigeein7 ай бұрын
Hi Richard , thanks again for the information. You are streets ahead with knowledge. I live rural with limited phone signal indoors. Fibre broadband is not an option unfortunately. I’m currently using a 4G router with no external antenna. Which currently provides approx 37mbps. With the router positioned outside approx 53 mbps . I’m confident with an antenna positioned on the chimney with good cable and router this can be improved further to 5G reception and perhaps 60- 80 mbps. The end game is more sturdy wifi for the home. If only I could improve the phone signal indoors. However I will settle for a stronger stable system. I’ll check out the companies you have mentioned. Thank you so much for the advice , videos and support.
@mateusseer53537 ай бұрын
Are the LPDA antennas 300mm? Do you think the 500mm ones would offer significant further gain? Also, there appear to be two types of 300mm LPDA; the cheapest advertising operation from 800 Mhz. Do you think these are different from the ones you tested and not suitable for band 28?
@Phone_Geek7 ай бұрын
Hi there. Yeah I think they are 30mm, have to check though. Not looked at 50mm but suspect it'll have narrower vertical and horizontal beamwidth. Remember its not all about antenna gain. Antenna height, environmental (rural etc), cable quality etc. One negative can be reliance on a single cell site, which if it went out of service means your gone until it returns. As for band 28, I only know of 3UK that uses it for 4G. I wouldn't want to use outside 800-2600. Easiest way is to check (if you can find them) the tech docs and see what vswr is says for 700. Any value > 2 forget it.
@nathleflutiste7 ай бұрын
Quite the shocking result ! But this is quite a good surprise right ? (well not so much if the more expensive have already been bought). In my opinion, the appearance is kinda a matter of taste. I like better the Log Periodic one, the only thing I don't like much with it is the fact that its installation is a bit less user-friendly. But that's really the only thing I have against it. I'm gonna buy one like this. Also, I wonder how would have performed a Yagi antenna, I've read some very good things about them too.
@Phone_Geek7 ай бұрын
Have to be careful with yagi. High gain directional sure, but gain is not always the most important consideration. Antenna choice depends on lots of factors. For example in rural hilly terrain I'd say high gain omni. For flatter rural terrain a 2x2 mimo directional antenna with highest gain in 800-2100mhz range is probs better. In suburban areas with 5G I'd suggest a directional 4x4 mimo antenna with high quality short feeder. In- line bandpass filters are a consideration to reduce noise. And in addition, are you after any signal, or just increase in speed? That also impacts choice
@nathleflutiste7 ай бұрын
@@Phone_Geek Thanks for the answer ! Well in my case, there is quite a good signal, but I would like to maximise the speed and reduce the ping as much as possible. I wanted to buy a lpda antenna first, but were I live (Medellin, Colombia, the city is located in a valley, and the providers' antennas are generally at the bottom, and at the top fiber optic internet isn't available at all) it's very difficult to find it. What nearly everyone use or sell is the Yagi antenna. There are of course some omni available, but they don't give good results most of the time.
@nathleflutiste7 ай бұрын
This level of detail is simply astonishing ! I really want to see the comparison betwen this lpda antenna and your usual one.
@Phone_Geek7 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@keekwai27 ай бұрын
Rooter ... LOL
@LA6NPA9 ай бұрын
Engineering handset?? PLEASE explain!! I'm probably looking for something like that!!
@Phone_Geek9 ай бұрын
An engineering handset is one with additional firmware/different sdk that allows radio engineers to survey networks and evaluate logs etc. You can also unlock samsung phones to display everything. Not got round to doing that on old phone. Invalidates warranty of course
@Jacktherat9110 ай бұрын
Hello new here very good video , very informative I've now subscribed I'm sure I will find what I'm looking for but I need a cheap 4g antenna with POE as I hate coax , I would like to use 7cat ethernet , mast is through a tree pine but clean as day in winter. Summer will be a pain but I will get my hedge trimmer and trim a laser like beam through the tree line in due course .
@Phone_Geek10 ай бұрын
Hi there, thanks for watching. You've certainly got the right ideas. For me at moment I want new install, higher pole with ldr400 down to box of kit which is POE back to house. I also use cat7 from house to my garage/office in different building. But I tell ya, doing the sockets and plugs for a cat7 is a real pita. For you, I'm guessing you do best solution which is antenna and kit at top of pole with POE up to it? You will benefit a lot from that.
@naix381610 ай бұрын
The omni couldn't perform well coz based on the photo in 10:10 it was mount beside a wall which is not really good. It needs to be open in all directions.
@cbt1989gy11 ай бұрын
Have u got a video testing decent omni antennas? In the market to add an antenna to my van, router is ztr mf28D
@Phone_Geek11 ай бұрын
Hi. A van is an interesting one as it'd guess it's got to be small, not too obvious. Not done one but can look into it. What price range? I would add it entirely depends on what you're trying to achieve. Do you use the van all over the place and need extra signal in low coverage specifically? Maybe just increase speed, on the move or just when stationary? The solution to your needs drives (pun not intended) what antennas you want
@sully83311 ай бұрын
Do these work for improving the signal on my mobile phone?
@Phone_Geek11 ай бұрын
No unfortunately not, they are for use with mobile broadband routers. In theory could could use them with mobiles as I've done in vids but no phone has antenna ports now
@kevinrtres11 ай бұрын
I just ordered the xpol-6 out of ignorance but then when I compared the price to the cheap lpdas available (not that much different) and the increased installation effort etc. it's a slam-dunk - xpol-6 wins everytime.
@Phone_Geek11 ай бұрын
Xpol6 is for 1800-2700meg so won't support lte 800 for rural areas and poor coverage areas in general
@kevinrtres11 ай бұрын
@@Phone_Geek Yes, there is that - but I'm in a build-up area so the signals are in range.
@rfxtuber Жыл бұрын
Richard... Just a note... I think i have the same router as you, but i would not trust that routers onboard speed test at all!!! DONT DO IT.. RE-TEST speeds outside of the router... Something is not right with the built in speed test in the ARCHER MR600 TPLINK.... I get it showing speed test in the range of 25 30 40 50 mpbs and i can assure you the router is not performing anywhere near those speeds with stable consistent readings of - RSRP - 109dbm RSRQ - 16DBM (External Antenna) best max speed this router can ever manage is 10mpbs but the routers onboard built in speed test will consistently report anywhere between 25mps to 60mps speeds which are just not true...Firmware Version:1.5.0 0.9.1 v0001.0 Build 210914 Rel.59719n.. Would be great if you can report similar findings?
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi, an rsrq of -16 is pretty poor, but its more about the CQI being reported to eNodeB that determines speed. But the better way is to do a ftp file transfer using it, as I did for my 5G vid. I have some colleagues at work who's SME is routers and see if any better way to check. I do of course use speedtest too. Do you think the issue is mobile wireless speeds being wrong, or wireless in general I.e. WiFi too?
@rfxtuber Жыл бұрын
Hiya, yeah its really odd Richard been using this router for a while now, and as you say my reception figures are not the best, I am right on the edge (rural area) and 1.8 miles from mast, room for improvement for sure, however despite that, the connection has been pretty stable and works well, mounting options are not the best but I’m fully wired cat5 gigabit Ethernet from the router all working perfectly fine… (Don’t use 2.4ghz wifi for speed testing) The built in speed test just keeps reporting speeds that I never ever see with normal downloading, ftp file transfers tests ect, shortest hops, ect,ect.. no matter what its always 10meg for me and no more.. but as I say the built in speed test like just now, gave me a speed test of 27meg 30meg down and always 2meg up.. In the history of speed tests with this router it has seen as high as 80meg which is just patent rubbish.. I just ignore the built in speed test completely now, but these results are just so far out of kilter that I am convinced that there must be foul play going on within the router firmware or software.. It’s baffled me for months and months so when you speed tested with the internal tp-link speed test, I could not resist posting.. It’s become a bit of a bugbear with me… I would love to see you test the theory, but I’m sure you would of noticed the disparity by now.. but we all hit the speed test button as a rough gage of what the connection is doing at the point in time and rarely check it against what the connection speed is really achieving outside of the router at the same time?
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
@rfxtuber interesting and rather disturbing/disappointing, since the test says its an Ookla Speedtest one I think? I'll investigate it some more. Thanks
@rfxtuber Жыл бұрын
That would be great if you could cast your beady eye on the subject, but as you know due to different masts, setups, equipment, network providers, tariffs there are many many moving parts here as you well know, and I am nowhere near skilled in analysis/data metrics as you, but I have settled on two possibilities that could be going on, I just can’t test or prove it. The TP-link router internal speed test maybe (inadvertently) bypassing any hidden or unknown sim/network throttling at the hardware level or the built in speed test is artificially boosting the speed tests over the real speeds (rounding errors, deliberate?) and then of course there is user error, bad antennae setup and whatnot. Finally I have also noticed the rabbit ears antenna that comes with the TP-link seem to be just as good as any external antenna in my case… yet another oddity?… If you do find any anomalies worth reporting it would be most welcome and interesting….thanks for your replies Richard...
@rfxtuber11 ай бұрын
Hi again Richard.. Just a quick note.. I discovered what was causing these speed test issues with the tp-link mr-600.. you will never guess what was causing me so much confusion with speed tests..and this is repeatable with your model i will presume... It was an errant setting in the QoS settings... within the QoS settings panel it was set to 10mbps (Download) and the upload was set to 2mbps with a device in the local network set to 85% priority.. if you set those settings and then do external speedtest at speed test websites you will observe the speed test permanently stuck at 10mbps and the upload permanently stuck at 2mbps but if you do an internal speediest on the MR-600 it will speed test to what ever your connection is actually receiving, not being throttled by the QoS settings... Hence massive confusion and WTF moments for months!!! Try it yourself... and you will see the effect yourself... I hear you ask.. of course you had QoS enabled.. well.. no it was a setting that was enabled during testing months ago and i had forgot to to disable it... it is very much worthy of note.. Try it yourself.. Very much worthy of note!!!! @@Phone_Geek
@MrFrobbo Жыл бұрын
Another useful video, cheers. Last comment auto deleted as i put a link to ebay, was just wondering what LPDAs you're using and what cable you would recomend for say a 5 to 10m run. Cheers
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Just search ebay for something like "Directional LPDA Outdoor Antenna". They all appeared same so I got anyone from uk. As long as covers 800-2600 MHz with gain around 12dBi. As for cable..I'd suggest watching my video all about them, cost vs benefit. In a rural environment, 5m the middle quality one, but 10m I'd deffo use higher quality. Lmr400 I think it was
@MrFrobbo Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek cheers Richard, I'm working my way through your videos as you can tell 😂.
@MrFrobbo Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek would be great to PM you, do you have a social media site, Twitter, FB, website?
@MrFrobbo Жыл бұрын
Great content cheers. Using MR500 and can lock onto both B1 and B3 or B3,B3 on EE using Mimo external omni, but signal and SNR is poor as in the sticks and aggregation drops regularly and I loose B1, so was wondering to try x2 LPDA, however there are plenty of trees around here. Any advice really welcome.
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
What I would suggest is: 1) check out cellmapper.net to find best operator, mast and lte band. Best isnt necessarily closest, as you know terrain you are probs best, unless you PM me your town/village 2) check operator with lte band 20 (LTE800) or even LTE700 (band 28). The operators use these for better coverage at expensive of lower capacity. Trees have a massive impact on coverage, done professional investigations number of times. 3) check the antenna specs of your omni that its gain is good at these lower frequencys. 4) have antenna on pole high as can with quality cables. 5) consider a decent quality omni like the poynting omni292 or omni293. I've used these professionally
@MrFrobbo Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek stuck, how do I DM on KZbin and I'm in IT Infrastructure 😂
Cool test setup, what app are you using for the phone and how to connect an external antenna, this would be really handy
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi, the phone is a Samsung s3 with engineering firmware edited for use with ascom tems (surveying tool). It was one of latest phones which had hidden antenna ports inside.. just had to drill a hole through and have correct cable. I dont know of more recent phone with accessible antenna ports unfortunately. There are decent apps around to measure signal, the non expert one being netmonitor lite. Doing a vid on them at mo.
@MrFrobbo Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek thanks for the update, appreciated. Cant seem to find Net Monitor Lite on Google Play. I'm using a combination of Network Cell Info Lite, Network Signal Info & Cell Mapper. Trouble is no external antenna to test different scenarios, and lack of band control. Look forward to the vid 💪👍
@brianstewart3457 Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, Very good comparison and useful information. I assume your tests were done with all 3 antennas in the same physical location. In practice an external antenna will be mounted externally where it will naturally perform better than an internal one. Also directional antennas will always perform better if pointed towards the transmitter and significantly worse if not. In my situation I am using a 4g router inside a steel Narrowboat which is effectively a Faraday cage. An external antenna mounted on the roof on a small mast is bound to give far superior signal than the rabbit ears inside. Also a directional antenna is totally unsuitable in this case as the cell tower location is never the same and mostly unknown so an omnidirectional is a must. The junk cables can easily be shortened to a few inches and then replaced with better quality to minimise losses but even a 6dbi loss from it being mounted externally results in a significant gain over the internals. At the end of the day it's horses for courses and the fact that it's being mounted externally needs to be considered, especially if living in a modern home will foil lined walls.
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Yes all antennas always in same place. Lot of multipath and no direct line of sight, so shows benefit of mimo a lot. Totally right about need for omni on a narrowboat, high gain colinear might help. On other hand, www.cellmapper.net shows mast locations so a directional could come in handy on the odd occasion. And yeah typical in-building penetration losses are what kills signal particularly at higher frequency bands. Just make sure your antenna provides good gain at 800mhz, as this is the band used by operators in rural locations
@madpaul122000 Жыл бұрын
Hey Richard really enjoying your videos i got couple of question can you use two 5g router one with sim card to double the signal streight to work togather? The other question is if your router has 4x4 mimo can you use 2x2 mimo x2 to make the 4x4 mimo because the direction antenna come with one port but you get two so would have to get another two to make the 4x4 mimo? hope to hear from you soon.
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi mate, thanks for the comments, appreciated. To get benefit of 5G you'll want a 4x4 mimo, assuming you live in suburban or urban environment, not rural. Having 2x 2x2mimo antenna i wouldn't suggest 1) it'd cost more and 2) a 4x4 is still 4x antennas in same housing, and having 2 cross polarised antenna with space diversity doesn't make sense. Specifically the directional antenna in this vid.. as a comparison you'd want 4x individual antennas and getting decent performance will need a lot of playing round with, as well as being a bit ugly! I'd either have a 4g router as per vid, or have a 5g router with 4x4 mimo, best setup with high quality cables
@firstnamesurname955 Жыл бұрын
Gr8 video. Had that cheap shit on my campervan. replaced with a poynting and I'll be getting some of those directionals to see what works best for me
@michaelschiller1334 Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard I'm curious to know what you would use with my circumstances. Currently use ee on mobile phone upwards of 50down. No dropouts. However with my mikrotik sxt directional I have low speeds and drop outs. My house is at the bottom of the hill where the 4g mast is located and have tree's. Would an omnidirectional be better as it has a wider field it looks for.? I have no line of sight to the mast.. Thanks in advance.
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hmm OK let me look further. But need some info first. That antenna is designed more for higher frequencys whereas lower freq performance is poor. More rural areas use LTE800 or LTE700, so the antenna gives you not much. To get idea of what performance is, download netmonitor lite (if you have Android phone) and let me know the rsrq, snr and eNodeb ID. Worth moving direction of device to get best value of snr. Good will be say 5+, bad will be less than 1. Better snr means faster speeds
@michaelschiller1334 Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek thanks for the quick reply. I'll check this when I get home. It's very frustrating especially when the mast is under 500m away and it's a rather high hill and I'm at the bottom.
@HarrisonDavies Жыл бұрын
There's no information on the direction you pointed to.
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi there, you mean in terms of azimuth? Local site is a streetworks at about 210deg. Lots of multipath.
@redfish0 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Where did you get the log periodic from?
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I got them off ebay. Search for Log Periodics, high gain, 4G5G that sort of thing. Lots on ebay as long as it covers 800-2700 should be fine
@larsaberg6851 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Really good the comparison with dBi charts and performance you see/expect as a user. I am glad you mentioned the cables. Cable length comparison could be a topic for a video since the loss can be high for the higher frequences. Maybe putting the antenna as far up as possible may not give an advantage unless you get above or obstacles.
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I did a video on cable types. I'm hoping to make a full new setup soon
@DanielSRosehill Жыл бұрын
Nice video. And love the six monitor array!
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it. And the monitors! 3 for work, 3 for trading
@mrtwinky2007 Жыл бұрын
the lpda looks alright in my opinion
@epicworldofgames8736 Жыл бұрын
I love you 😍 saved my life from from buying trash you have a new subscriber 👍 👌 😘
@sibonelogift5061 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoon uncle I like to know this product can operate in 5G/4G/LTE router cause I want buy once XPOL1 v2 41? I saw at Takealot so I want to buy fit all bands outdoors
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi there thanks for watching! The antenna you mention is an omni-directional covers all bands and tech from 2G to 5G. The 41 version means its 4x4 mimo, so your router needs to have 4-ports to get main benefit
@paulcartlidge4194 Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard,very good video and informative. and very timely for me as I am just venturing into this area and was wondering if you have any idea how I can establish where I am getting my signal from , let me explain lol. I am on mobile broadband with 3 I have been on cellmapper, mastdata, open signal. and I can only establish 1 cell tower near my location in fact it is a 10 minute walk away and is an EE however when I do a field test using my phone the cell id it gives me does not equate to any of the cells in the tower! and I cant find ANY masts with 3 anywhere near me but I do get between 5-10mb download so I must be getting a signal from somewhere lol. I just want to know if it is worth me spending the money on an antenna without knowing where to point it as all the maps I have looked at dont show any more towers in my area. The one good thing I found on cellmapper was when I clicked on the tower nearest me the signal graph was great for me . Even 3 community could not confirm if they were using the tower !
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul thanks for watching! Often its best I know a bit more on your current setup, eg are you rural or suburban, do you have standard router located in your lounge etc and are thinking of using an external antenna? You are definitely further down the line in looking for the serving mast and checking against cell mapper. however what you should do is do a survey using an app like netmonitor lite (android only). This will give you the eNodeB of your current mast and you can search for that in cellmapper. I get so many questions like this i've doing a vid on it. You could also do with checking what freq band the tests show, along with these: rsrp and rsrq. signal level and quality essentially.
@paulcartlidge4194 Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek Hi Richard. Thanks for getting back to me, I live in a rural area and I suppose I have a standard 4G router its a tplink 4g Deco system and has 2 outlets for external ariels. I live in a bungalow so its in the loft to get abetter signal. unfortunately I dont have an android device so cant use netmonitor but I will do another field test and see what the rsrp and rsrq values are along with signal level . I still have the original huawei router but I went with tp link so I could get wifi around the house. I will let you know the results if thats ok with you
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
@Paul Cartlidge cool. Not sure what apple give you.. getting the eNodeb ID is most important.
@paulcartlidge4194 Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek Hi Richard, well the field test didnt provide much info apart from a UARFCN 10612 and a cell id 8077979 which when i enter in cellmapper nothing happens . I now have some enode id numbers :33177,3864,50314,10911BUT i dont know what I am doing wr Anyway ong but none of them show up on cellmapper. I put the number in the search tower and click on it but then nothing happens lol. the thing is the 33177 tower has 12 cells in it but none of the number I have! anyway I have mithered you enough thank you for your input I am ust frustrated I cant get to the bottom of it .
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
@Paul Cartlidge no problem, I could probs work it out. You can email me direct if give the village etc of where u are. [email protected]
@bushtuckaman Жыл бұрын
Hello Richard, I'm hoping you could give me some advice. I'm in a rural, valley bottom location with hills on three sides and some trees on the other side down the valley between me and the masts. Was thinking of getting an poynting xpol2 5g v3 directional antenna and pointing it down the valley towards the masts. Currently the signal drops out alot. Download varies from 0.5 to 8mbit, depending on the weather. Currently getting 2.8 down and 0.3 up. Any thoughts? Cheers
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hmm I'm thinking Welsh valleys by any chance? Few things to start, first thing it's poss an omni might be best, but Id need more info on your property and current solution. Main things in your circumstance is a short cable or a low loss cable like lmr400. A long cable run can introduce more loss than the antenna gain. Get antenna high as poss, consider an external weatherproof box close to antenna outside. Also make no assumptions on best mast. Get an app like netmonitor lite and survey your property. Note down the eNodeb I'd, rsrp and rsrq values. The best consistent value of rsrq (radio path quality, -10 good -20 bad)'s eNodeb id is best mast. Then lookup against cellmapper.com to see where mast is. That'll confirm best mast.
@bushtuckaman Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek Many thanks for the reply. Yes Wales, but not up in 'The Valleys' which are steep sided, more a small valley off a gentle lowland valley! The Poynting xpol 2 antenna I mentioned is an outdoor antenna apparently and has a 5m cable, is that length ok or is a shorter one advisable? I'm using a Smarty SIM in a Huawei mobile router for my data/WiFi solution, but when I used the app you mentioned on my mobile phone I could only get it to analyse my EE SIM in my mobile. So I had to take the Smarty SIM out of my router and put it in my phone to get it to analyse the Smarty signal. I assume that will give me the same data! 😬 Interestingly using cellmaper the signal was bouncing between 3 masts, within a 30 degree field of view from my location, approx 8 miles away. The masts are in the direction that's not blocked by the hills surrounding me, but line of sight to the masts is obscured by a small forested area down the small valley I'm in I did a 5 minute sample on net monitor lite and averaged Rsrq -17dB, Rsrp -109dBm 🙈 Are you thinking directional or omi, or am I doomed to dial up speeds forever? 😂
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
@bushtuckaman well done for doing that. Ideally you should do for all operators to get best mast best network. Pain to do yes, but worth it. Your situ you have fine margins to improve speed. That rsrq is bad. That value is sent to mast which then decides what bit rate you get. The terrain you describe and speeds is exactly what I expect. The reflections off of the valley are more delayed than say in suburban areas and that causes different fading effects. Another reason for slow speeds is the tech. Are u actually on 4G? If so, likely LTE800 even LTE700. These lower frequencys are used by operators in rural areas as they give more coverage. More cost effective. However lower the freq lower the throughput. So in netmonitor does it show just that?
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
@bushtuckaman to help more its probs best to email me your village, hamlet name to help more. Check me on LinkedIn if u want. That cable length and type is fine. Ive got a vid on cables and effects. With direct LoS I am surprised dont get better. If masts below you tilt antenna down or v.v. [email protected]
@bushtuckaman Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek Thanks Richard, I'll email you.
@simoncooper6716 Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, I'm trying to get some speed improvement for my mums "3" sourced mobile broadband. I've made a couple of antenna from Andrews designs, but would like to try buying a couple - do you have a link for any? the log periodic? thanks in anticipation simon
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, sorry to answer your question with some questions first.. is the router a 4G one or 3's new 5G one? Is she rural/ hamlet or suburban/urban? Are you looking for major improvement on what is ok now or better on what is rubbish currently? These will make me help you
@WingmanLive Жыл бұрын
i have a directional 4g wifi rooter its got 2 small aerials on there wich keep breaking so thinking about adding external antenna but i find with small antennas the 4g signal moves every day i have to point the thing in a different direction so thats no good if i get a arial on the roof i cant go outside climb a ladder to point the thing in a different direction every day..
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Few questions: what's the router? Where is it located within your property at moment? If indoors then I'd expect your problem if on ground floor, indoors, not close to a window, and with poor general coverage. With external antenna you get advantages, but we'll need to get some info first. You dont need to put on a roof in most circumstances
@WingmanLive Жыл бұрын
@@Phone_Geek its a Tp-Link MR6400 LTE 4G 2.4 ghz.. I keep it by window, i use mobile phone app (open signal) tells me where to pointwhat's the brand of those bat shaped antennas your using? I'm UK based so would like to buy from UK not china but if need to i would do, have you got a link for them?
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Open signal is terrible, but you have the right idea. Doing a vid on all this at mo.. but check cellmapper.com for mast location and compare with cell data on netmonitor lite if you have Android. The antennas are generic tons people sell on ebay. Use search term 3G 4G Mobile Signal Amplifier Enhanced Receive Logarithmic Antenna 698-2700MHz
@sibonelogift5061 Жыл бұрын
Poynting Uni-Directional - Dual-Band Wi-Fi Antenna - (4×4 Mimo) - WLAN61 i want to buy this model to boost my network what type of cable must i buy cause i hurt buy wrong cables?
@sibonelogift5061 Жыл бұрын
Hi my question for today what type of cables must i buy to connect outdoor antinna cause at home i has hauwe B525 wifi runs fro 2G 3G 4G plus LTE
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
Hi there! The huawei looks to have a standard 2 sma antenna ports, which is good. The type of cable ultimately depends on the length and expense. Longer the cable needs to be, the thicker and better it needs to be to avoid too much signal (and speed) loss. You dont want the gain of the antenna offset by a huge cable loss. However the costs increase dramatically with better quality. Overall, in my opinion, up to 5m long the rg58 type is fine. From 5 to 15m then type lmr400. If you need like 30m then lmr600. But, tbh, if needing that length you'd get better and cheaper performance by having the router external near antenna in a housing, with PoE running to it. Hope that helps
@toniilola6405 Жыл бұрын
What cable you used and how long it was?
@toniilola6405 Жыл бұрын
And great review btw! Planning to get that v3
@Phone_Geek Жыл бұрын
@Toni Ilola thanks very much! The cable is the one included, which is 5m of hdf195. That was for testing.. but at home I have an extra 10m of rg95 I think it is, so lots more loss