The Mixing Process

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@DbiPro Күн бұрын

Double your channels and mix stereo lol.

@DbiPro Күн бұрын

I decided to do 2 groups. A band group and a vocal group. There. Now you can hear everyone in stereo without going too wide

@DbiPro Күн бұрын

May Tricks. Say it with me. MAY TRICKS.

@Nophera 4 күн бұрын

i understand that this question is answered in the situation of recording analog signal and so forth but does that still apply from digital to digital? example: taking an already rendered digital flac and adding +5db of gain and rendering it again at the same bitrate and depth, is there artifacting that can happen there? (assuming it's not clipping of course)

@themixingprocess 4 күн бұрын

That’s a really good question that I don’t know the answer to for sure… my gut says that in your example, adding that 5db of volume would not change the quality of the signal, because it’s all digital ones and zeros. In my mind, there’s no conversion happening that would change the quality. Could be wrong here, but that’s my initial thought.

@Nophera 4 күн бұрын

@@themixingprocess thanks for taking the time to answer, you are greatly appreciated!

@themixingprocess 3 күн бұрын

Thanks for the question! Let me know if you have any others :)

@subphotic 5 күн бұрын

Good to have you back! Clarity as always, keep em coming🙌💯

@themixingprocess 5 күн бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

@themixingprocess 5 күн бұрын

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@WitenthiuDomta 21 күн бұрын

How to mix choir vocals ? The problem is vocals alone is not clipping even track when i play alone it's not clipping. But when i play all together wit track it's clipping and i cant fix it...,😭😭🙏🙏

@themixingprocess 21 күн бұрын

What exactly is clipping? The input channels themselves, or the master bus they're feeding into? Clipping is always a problem of gain structure. Make sure all your inputs are gained up correctly (if you need help with that, I have a few other videos on how to set gain).

@WitenthiuDomta 21 күн бұрын

@@themixingprocess the master Bus is clipping

@themixingprocess 20 күн бұрын

Where on the input channel meters are you setting your gain? If the master bus is clipping, that means there's too much overall signal being fed to it. This could be caused by your preamp gain being set too high or the faders being set too high, feeding your master too much signal. If you'd like to send me pictures or a video of what you're talking about, you can send it to [email protected] and I'll get back to ya!

@WitenthiuDomta 19 күн бұрын

@@themixingprocess how to send there's no option 🙏

@themixingprocess 19 күн бұрын

Email it to [email protected]

@Hefty54 26 күн бұрын

My question is I have a Pioneer SX 1250 and the sound pot is done for as it can not be fixed. I can't find a replacement for this Vintage stereo anywhere. Can I buy an amplifier or Pre-amp hook it up and now be able to enjoy my Beautiful stereo again. Or do I just wrap it up and stick it in the closed forever. I won't donate it for parts as I just paid 1000 dollars to have it gone through. And the only thing wrong is the Volume pot. It's way to heavy to make it practical to ship to anyone let alone never getting it back so its a bypass fix or nothing. What advice can you offer me?

@themixingprocess 23 күн бұрын

I’m really not familiar with doing gear repairs like that. Sorry I could be more help :/

@kimsalas6890 Ай бұрын

This is really helpful. I have a question. Where should I pan the acoustic guitar (mono), keyboard (mono), e-guitar (stereo) and background vocal (mono) in a live situation?

@themixingprocess Ай бұрын

Well, like I mentioned in the video, depends on your room and what other inputs you have on stage. If you're in a smaller room, and that's all the inputs you have, I might do acoustic slightly to one side, the keyboard slightly to the other, electric guitar hard left and right, and vocal in the middle. When in doubt, I always error on the side of putting this closer to the middle. A lack of panning won't break your mix, but overdoing it definitely can!

@emirpromaks5792 Ай бұрын

Post Fader

@yyy5569 2 ай бұрын

Are you talking about software gain or hardware gain? My studio monitors have a slight noise floor at 0db and if i listen at night i cant have it that loud, so the hiss can become noticable unless i turn the gain knob on the speakers down. Will this impede sound quality?

@themixingprocess 2 ай бұрын

I'm talking about hardware preamp gain. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that turning the knob on your speakers down would only digitally trim the volume down. This should not affect sound quality.

@G_handle 2 ай бұрын

... How does this work? If Potentiometers are Passive, and have no active electronics to Amplify a signal, what happens Past the 75% or 50% points. These being variable resistors that can only Cut, are "used" in a deceptive but practical way. If the top half of a fader is Linear and marked + & - say 12dB, we call that "having 12dB in hand". But that +12dB is already IN the signal, pre-fader. The fader being pulled down to the 75% point, is Cutting the signal by 12dB. When the fader is pushed to 100% (and 100mm in this case), the valve is opened all the way and the extra 12dB of metaphorical water pressure is alloed to flow. But it isnt Adding 12dB of additional Amplification. And therefore no additional noise. Whatever's there is already there. With the "Trim" knobs, its the same just at 50% and with a convenient detent to help us find Unity (also on the Gain knobs of Analog Parametric EQs BTW) So to your Digital Trims. Much of the digital audio world are 'emulations, simulations, virtual versions' of thier Analog counterparts. With Analog Trim knobs being Calibrated with say +or- 12dB, the digital trims do the same....but differently. In the Analog realm, the Gain has to come from somewhere...electronically. In the digital realm... It's just math.

@themixingprocess 2 ай бұрын

Gotcha. Makes sense. You've obviously done a lot more work on the analog side of things than I have, so I appreciate the explanation! Thanks!

@G_handle 2 ай бұрын

@themixingprocess Ahhh... I can try. Again I'll refer to an Analog Trim (as I understand it, more on that later) As I described in the last post, to my understanding: Gain is Active. Trim is Passive. The Active electronics can Amplify a signal, but also introduce Noise. A Passive circuit, basically, doesn't amplify anything and as a result doesn't add noise (or at least a negligible amount). So in practice, if you imagine a channel strip on a console, the first knob at the top is Gain, and the last thing at the bottom is a Fader which is Passive. That passive Fader is really a Variable Resistor, just like all of the Potentiometers sprinkled around the board. Again, if you imagine the Gain increasing water pressure like a water pump, then you can imagine all of the Potentiometers and Faders as Valves that, only when opened, allow that water pressure to flow through whatever pipes (busses) they're connected to. If all the valves are closed, the water (signal) is going nowhere. That's signal-flow 101 as I've understood for decades. Now a tricky point is one of ergonomics really. That Fader at the bottom is designed and "Calibrated" in such a way as to provide far more use than a simple linear Potentiometer. Firstly, unlike my Vintage consoles which have 60mm true linear faders simply marked 0-10 (not in any dB scale), modern faders: - are 100mm standard - follow a "Audio Taper" which basically means they are Linear in the top half and Logarithmic in the bottom half. Providing 50mm of higher resolution tactile control in the top half, and the ability to drastically cut the signal to infinity in the 50mm below that. (And to your question...) - as a standard, modern faders And (Potentiometer used for volume levels) are typically "Calibrated" so that "Unity Gain" is at 75% travel to the end, not at the fully open point. - Potentiometers labeled as "Trim" often times have a Detent at their 50% point and are "Calibrated" so that "Unity Gain" is in the middle. ...

@chadglass7705 2 ай бұрын

i went to your site; thanks

@DavidDiaz-jt2km 2 ай бұрын

i'm still not sure what you mean by trim. I'm using a sound craft expression 2 and there is nothing on the board that says trim unless you mean my fader.

@themixingprocess 2 ай бұрын

Not every console has the trim function. If yours doesn’t have it, no worries! This video was just to explain what it does if you do have it.

@G_handle 2 ай бұрын

Hmmm... Good explanation, but let me add: The distinction between Analog Gain & Digital Trim is misleading. In a fully Analog system, Gain & Trim function much as described here. Gain can Add Amplification to a signal to Increse beyond the input. Trim can only Reduce signal level from input to output. The old analogy is to think about audio signal as water pressure: Adding Gain is like adding a water pump in-line that can Increse water pressure (signal level) by adding Amplification. However this has has additional implications, such as also adding more Noise to the signal from the amplifier itself. As well as additional THD (distortion) and altered frequency response, as amplifiers are non-linear devices. Using a Trim to reduce signal level, is like turning down a Valve to reduce water pressure. The valve (Trim) can be Fully Open allowing everything at the input to pass through to the output, theorhetically 'un-altered'. Or can be dialed back to gradually Reduce water pressure from the input to what's desired at the output, being sent on to the next destination. Because there's no Active electronics in the process, there's also very minimal added artifacts to the signal. It's the same as the input, just less. (All of that said, we often Deliberately ADD Amplification stages to a signal specifically TO add that circuits Non-linearity to the signal, because we find those artifacts to be desirable. Slightly overdriving a signal through a Microphone Preamp, in order to ADD THD is pretty common. And many Preamps have a Gain knob in the input section AND a Trim knob at the output, in order to Use the Gain as additional 'seasoning' and then cleanly reduce any additional signal level back down to whatever is needed beyond that process. )

@themixingprocess 2 ай бұрын

I really like the way you described that, but I’m not sure I understand the part about “trim can only reduce signal level from input to output.” At least on many digital consoles, you have the ability to trim a signal up (typically 10db or so), not just trim it down. I might have misunderstood what you were trying to say there… can you explain more?

@themixingprocess 2 ай бұрын

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@sticksbass 2 ай бұрын

how do u adjust that recording w an android phone? thanks

@themixingprocess 2 ай бұрын

Phones and other devices not meant for making professional quality recordings are going to have very limited control. If you're trying to make good quality recordings, I'd suggest investing in a good microphone and recording into a DAW. You'll have much more success that way!

@sticksbass 2 ай бұрын

@@themixingprocess i c, thanks!

@StarkTVDeutschland 3 ай бұрын

Make up and Output gain is not the same...

@themixingprocess 3 ай бұрын

I realize there are compressors where “output” and “makeup” gain do not do the same thing, but in the plugins I was using in the video (and probably most plugins beginners are using or on console channel strips), manufacturers often use the two words interchangeably. Technically, you are correct though!

@robertspieler4988 3 ай бұрын

As a "HiFi neophyte" I found your explanation very helpful; thank you. If increasing gain enhances "sound quality resolution", under what circumstances would increased gain have a negative result? Inferior speakers/headphones perhaps?

@themixingprocess 3 ай бұрын

The only time where increasing the gain would be a negative thing is if you increased it to the clipping point. Other than that, I don’t see any disadvantages. Consoles are designed to work at line level.

@lynnettemilleville9517 3 ай бұрын

How does panning change if the musicians are set up in the round for live sound?

@themixingprocess 3 ай бұрын

It's hard to say without knowing your specific setup, but I'll just say this: there's no right or wrong way to do it unless the method you choose prevents people in certain areas of the room from hearing a balanced mix or specific elements of the music. For example, if you pan an instrument hard left or right in a room where people don't have the whole stereo image, part of your audience is going to miss out on that instrument. It's really just a balancing act dependent on your room configuration and system setup.

@patwebb882 4 ай бұрын

There, I hope that was helpful for you😂😂😂😂

@sonnybrasco9735 4 ай бұрын

Appreciate this information. I agree with you. I've been fighting this for a while being self taught and I just recently came to this conclusion

@DbiPro Күн бұрын

What conclusion lol

@sonnybrasco9735 Күн бұрын

That both listening in mono and stereo is the best process

@krispy16034 4 ай бұрын

Awesome

@offthedeepend762 4 ай бұрын

Preeeesh

@santoshgujar5237 4 ай бұрын

✨Thank you, Sir, 🙏✨

@santoshgujar5237 4 ай бұрын

✨🙏🏼✨

@jahvin4951 4 ай бұрын

Great video question do you mess with the pre amp gain

@themixingprocess 4 ай бұрын

No. The preamp should always be set completely independently from the fader volume. You can watch this video to understand what we need/use gain for: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5zXYYRqfL6aaas

@OurGeneration.church 4 ай бұрын

Doesn't make sense still. I mean if its a digital signal coming from a computer that's too hot (let's say), then the gain setting at low will do the trick. What's a better way to explain use case? This use case scenario is not legit.

@themixingprocess 4 ай бұрын

Occasionally, you get a digital signal that's too hot even with the preamp all the way down. For example, sometimes electronic drums send a hot signal to the console, or if you play stems off of a computer live. In these situations, I'll either turn it down at the source or trim it down on the console.

@OurGeneration.church 4 ай бұрын

@@themixingprocess Can you go deeper into this topic? So I heard that only digital connections from dante or usb is considered a "digital" input. If anything goes into the analog inputs on the console then its still considered an analog input because its going through the preamp and the AD converters. The trim control sits "after" the AD conversion so technically the signal is digital when it hits the trim control. Right? I think you have to make it clear what you mean by a digital signal and when you say "from a computer". If its a computer plugged into a direct box and then converted into a balanced xlr input so it can be plugged into the mixer input, its still the gain control that will be used, not trim. If you can explain it in a way that really differentiates the use case for both and what sort of inputs you're talking about it would be more helpful.

@themixingprocess 4 ай бұрын

Great questions. Looking back, this was the fourth video I ever made, and I did NOT explain it well lol Definitely a topic deserving a redo, so thanks for digging into it! Let me do my best to explain this more clearly... When I talk about an analog signal, I’m referring to a sound that has been created by natural means, such as the human voice, an acoustic instrument, or any other source in nature. When I talk about a digital signal, I’m referring to a signal that has been created by some form of digital technology, such as a computer, phone, electronic instrument, etc. This is a fantastic website for quickly explaining the difference: byjus.com/physics/difference-between-analog-and-digital/ What I was trying to explain in the video is that the preamp is primarily needed when the signal is a weak, mic level signal. Such signals are typically “analog” signals (vocals, acoustic guitars, etc). Digital signals (electronic drums, keyboards, track stems), however, are often already at line level (or pretty close to), so they don’t really require a lot of, if any, voltage from the preamp to get in good gain structure. With that being said, gain is always necessary to add until each signal is brought up to line level on the console. Trim, on the other hand, is used AFTER the gain structure is set to digitally attenuate the volume of specific channels to allow for FADERS to be in high resolution (plus or minus 10db of unity). So to sum up simply, gain is used to get signals of every kind to line level. Trim is used to attenuate the volume of an input to bring the the fader into high resolution. Does that make more sense?

@themixingprocess 4 ай бұрын

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@DbiPro 4 ай бұрын

1:38 is where he starts talking about it

@DbiPro 4 ай бұрын

Putting Tom two in the middle doesn’t feel good. Especially because As a drummer your Tom is on the right hand side of your right leg. And farthest away from your face

@themixingprocess 4 ай бұрын

The goal is to make it sound natural and balanced to the listener. Whatever you need to do to make that happen!

@sidehustlefilms8007 4 ай бұрын

Thumbs up! How about vocal recording. Should i record vocals in pre fader metering with all my faders at unity gain? Thanks

@themixingprocess 4 ай бұрын

You don't have to worry about fader position when you're setting input gain for recording. Setting the input gain should be done according to the meter; get the average of the signal turned up to line level (where the meter goes from green to yellow), and record. Mixing with the faders comes later.

@joshp7418 4 ай бұрын

wow, in my head it was the other way around, happy I made an effort to find out.

@themixingprocess 5 ай бұрын

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@alexjakubiak9957 6 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, after hours of searching why and how exactly it affects the sound quality, I finally found the answer here

@themixingprocess 6 ай бұрын

Glad to be helpful! Let me know if you have any other questions.

@ClaudeYoung 6 ай бұрын

Really informative, so many people miss this concept completely! Thanks so much for the great tutorial!

@Joseph124269 6 ай бұрын

Great video very helpful. Thank you bro. Subscribed

@synapticschism 6 ай бұрын

Interesting, I always mix with the mindset of keeping faders at 0 for the bulk of the process. Never thought of it as a methodology or principle or anything. It was just easier for me to keep everything controlled between the input and the panner/fader section and then just do small adjustments with the faders.

@themixingprocess 6 ай бұрын

Just be sure to not confuse controlling volume with the gain knob versus controlling it with the fader. Gain is a completely separate process from the fader volume. Many people try to keep the fader at 0 and control the volume with the gain knob, and that’s the opposite of the way consoles are designed to work.

@synapticschism 6 ай бұрын

@@themixingprocess I know what you mean because I did it extensively in the past. :D but that's not the case, worry not. What I do depends on the instrument but the gain knob serves only to feed the channel at an appropriate level since I try to stick to analog emulations. It is possible that some fx chains have some kind of gain or volume control at some point, e.g. a clipper on a snare or the output of an amp sim.

@datsweggybruh8775 6 ай бұрын

Thanks

@themixingprocess 6 ай бұрын

Need some help with your mixes? You can download my FREE mixing guide "The 7 Step Mix" today! ---> www.themixingprocess.com/

@katiepower1570 7 ай бұрын

Amazing teacher !

@jasonwestbrook5271 7 ай бұрын

Hi what is the site for 7 mixing steps

@themixingprocess 7 ай бұрын

themixingprocess.com

@Angel-kv1ty 7 ай бұрын

I got my song to -12 lufs but when i play the file and compare it to songs on spotify the file is significantly quieter. what should i do?

@themixingprocess 7 ай бұрын

It's hard to tell without seeing the output meters and settings in person.. what kind of limiter are you using?

@kwameassefuah1529 7 ай бұрын

Great stuff💯

@kwameassefuah1529 7 ай бұрын

Vividly explained. Bless up man🎉

@per-olovskogsberg4220 7 ай бұрын

Great explanation. One question I havent heard explained by anybody is if it's possible to have different effects on each channel, as yo can in a DAW. I'd be very grateful if you could answer that.

@themixingprocess 7 ай бұрын

That depends on the specific mixer you're using. The one I demonstrated on in this video only has one FX engine, and that's usually the case for small mixers. Bigger consoles, and certainly most digital consoles, have multiple engines, so you can use multiple effects on each channel.

@per-olovskogsberg4220 7 ай бұрын

@@themixingprocess Yes, but let's say you only have a reverb engine built in. Can you then have different reverb settings on each level or can you only choose whether you want the effect or not.

@per-olovskogsberg4220 7 ай бұрын

Each channel I mean.

@themixingprocess 7 ай бұрын

Oh yes! On the mixer in this video, there’s a yellow knob on each channel strip that sends to the FX engine. You can dial in exactly how much you want of each channel using that knob.

@per-olovskogsberg4220 7 ай бұрын

@@themixingprocess Thank you!

@EmmanuelFranco2005 7 ай бұрын

Ok so at church I always set gain correctly and the vocalists at 0 on the fader but one of my vocalists is too loud so according to this video I should just turn the vocalist group down, for her fader to be in the high fader resolution area but then I would have to turn up all the other vocalists on their faders so they don’t sound quiet either. But then once they are up they are still to quiet because the lead vocalist is just too loud. I’ve tried setting compression but I noticed she was clipping due to being over compressed so I made the compression as soft as possible so she doesn’t clip, but at that point she’s really not even being compressed, so in the end she is still too loud. Do you have any tips or suggestions for this?

@themixingprocess 7 ай бұрын

Sure! Here's a couple thoughts: 1. The concept of keeping the faders at 0 is more about creating a good workflow. It's not a hard and fast rule in mixing. Sometimes, the setup doesn't allow for perfect execution of this concept. Just get as close as you can, and don't worry too much about the rest! If your vocal is too loud, and the gain is set correctly, just use the input fader to turn it down. 2. If any signal is clipping, that's an issue with the gain structure, not compression. Compressors turn the signal down, not up (unless you're using too much makeup gain). I'd go back and check your gain structure on that vocal, and then use the compressor to control the dynamic range of the signal (like if the vocal sings quietly on some parts and very loudly on others). If you need more information and getting the gain set correctly, this video might help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3zYe5ysbqtlh9k

@enzorocha2977 7 ай бұрын

nitpick time... 3:28 a gift is always free ;) Thanks for uploading, quite helpful explanation.

@jhonesreece4946 8 ай бұрын

Hello you Can make a tutorial on Reaper the mixing vocal rap please 🎉

@themixingprocess 8 ай бұрын

Hello! I actually don't usually work with rap music, so I don't have any tracks to teach from, but the concepts for rap vocals are similar to other kinds of music. What kinds of things are you trying to learn about with mixing vocals? I can point you in the direction of some videos I've made in the past on vocals.

@jhonesreece4946 8 ай бұрын

@@themixingprocess i would like a tutorial on voice mixing and how to use the EQ, fabfilter effects to make voice clean and mastering and compressor. Thanks ! ☺️

@themixingprocess 8 ай бұрын

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