I started reading the new testament the other day. My intention was to read the actual words of Jesus to really understand what he taught. I was disappointed. As a result I do not reference Jesus as a role model or spiritually enlightened person. Here are a couple of examples of Jesus behaving in ways that we refer to in today's language as "othering": When Jesus sends his disciples out to preach the good news of the coming kingdom of God, he explicitly tells them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans”2 (Matthew 10:5, emphasis added). And another... Matthew 15:21-28 21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.” 23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” 24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” 25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. 26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.” 27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.” 28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment. FYI - Gentiles are non-Jewish people. If you go anywhere to investigate this deeper you will likely come to a christian web site that tries to help us 'make sense' of what Jesus says. I would say this endeavor is much like trying to sympathize with the divisive rhetoric that Donald Trump uses. Maybe I should turn on Fox news to have their pundits explain to me what Trump really meant? Sometimes I find it unproductive, and sometimes even unhealthy, to understand what's driving people to speak or act in harmful and malevolent ways. I'm certain there is always some traumatic past behind that story. So 'hate the sin, not the sinner'. Anyways, Jesus is not an example of an exemplary person. But with some counseling, he could overcome his erroneous and unethical tendencies. We all have our own impression of people (our projections). Sometimes those projections are negative, and sometimes they are positive. But when our projections are out of alignment with the true expression of that person, it is either harmful to us, that person, or those who rely on our assessment of said person. With that said, I find the positive projections of Jesus to be unhelpful. If anything, I can understand why admiration of Jesus is so prevalent for conservatives: Jesus models what it means to take care of our own people (family, race, religion, nation) and to treat outsiders as second class citizens, or less than human in some cases. I have a role model to offer in his place: Mo Zi, a Chinese philosopher who is well known for his emphasis on universal love. See the wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozi No historical figure is perfect. There are several things about Mo Zi I don't really like. For example, he disliked music for some reason. I can't agree with that, but maybe that's something I would be willing to try to understand as opposed to overt bigotry.
@mickeyz.Ай бұрын
Loved this conversation! I'm so grateful that you've given space for Alicen to speak her mind and share her visions. 🙏🏽
@TheContainerPodАй бұрын
It was our pleasure! Thanks for watching.
@alicengreyАй бұрын
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for having me on your podcast! I'm so grateful for every minute of this conversation 🙏🏽
@TheContainerPodАй бұрын
Feeling immensely grateful for you! It's so exciting to bring your thoughts to our audience. Here's to many more!
@danielhall672 ай бұрын
I want to believe brave authentic connection will save the world 🌎
@kylecb2 ай бұрын
Mahaya is amazing - thank you for sharing this!
@TheContainerPod2 ай бұрын
She absolutely is! Thanks for watching.
@loodog5552 ай бұрын
What an interesting conversation! Given the far prevalence of left leaning people in spiritual spaces, having someone speak, for the right, was an interesting and valuable exercise. You did say that you didn’t challenge him on every last thing that he said, and that it would not be fair for you to do so in post production, but I have no such moral qualms doing it in the comments! I don’t want to incite an angry canceling mob, but Walsh’s comments about all therapists being female spiritually raised an eyebrow for me, and when he said that western or European culture was the most superior (in the context of excellence versus equality*), I had to rewind to make sure I heard him correctly. Lastly, his dismissive attitude towards men discussing their feelings in favor of activities, and purpose struck me as simplistically myopic. It is likely true that most men feel more comfortable bonding with other men in the context of an unrelated activity, like sports or hunting or building a house, but it seems unwarranted to jump from this to the notion that a real man wouldn’t tell another man his feelings, or engage in practices around that. These kinds of more indirect bonding activities have their place, but they are not the entirety of what it is to be a relating man in the world. The classic male alexithymia/autism/ADHD should not negate the value of learning practices to address it. Anyway, just my complaints. I did appreciate a lot of what he had to say as well.
@TheContainerPod2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this thoughtful response. What ways do you think young men might thrive in our society?
@loodog555Ай бұрын
@@TheContainerPod I think bringing back Big Dick Energy would be a start. Maybe Techno Viking needs to have his own podcast: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2mrZXqBnJKgj7M Walsh brought a lot of interesting ideas, but having the enhanced emotional awareness facilitated through Circling and related practices isn't a bad thing, nor should it be considered unmanly. It seems like a lot of young men are stunted at how to engage at an erotic level with women and being blind to one's own emotional state doesn't aid that, even though that sometimes seems like the manly way to do things. Oh also, "fitness makes you more conservative" is an interesting idea and I see how he got there through his conceptualization of liberalism as a mentality of ineffectual victimhood but I've got some pretty strong counterexamples among communities I inhabit.
@barefooted00127 күн бұрын
"These kinds of more indirect bonding activities have their place, but they are not the entirety of what it is to be a relating man in the world." 'Indirect bonding activities' don't have a place. They ARE the place. Have you seen how men sing, cheer, boo - etc - at soccer matches? There's nothing wrong with that. It's telling that because you don't get how men relate, you see it as "male alexithymia/autism/ADHD." You don't get how the other half of the population does their bonding, so their way is wrong.
@justinflownow3 ай бұрын
PLEASE start holding zoom circles 🙏
@TheContainerPod3 ай бұрын
They are coming!
@TheContainerPod3 ай бұрын
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@Mark-Walsh4 ай бұрын
She’s great eh. Thanks for the interview and see you soon
@Adhdathlete4 ай бұрын
As I was listening to You guys are so balanced in understanding eachother. The tiger comes out for me a lot it used to be a my default emotion but I try to reserve it for places it needs but if it spend to long surprsssing then I think it takes a lot of conditional work, a lot as you guys say healer I don’t think the answer is to change completely but to understand where it is coming from If it is validated then one should express immediately or when doable. Not everyone has the ability to think critically and afford the ability to consciously elevate. A lot of archetypes are engained in the daily bodies and for some reason the spirit is attatched to it. Sweden is so priviléged in a way so their influence might alleviate a lot of sicknesses within western society. I hope you guy give knowledge to spaces that need this. The spirits are suffering with a lack of knowledge on how to prepare for spiritual warfar. Sometimes pseudo science is hard to unpack because it is felt and to be able to articulate it in a very tough time Where we are more detached from self Enlightenment in western society can cause alot of problems when one is trying to socialize once .. barriers are broken
@TheContainerPod4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the thoughtful response to the episode! These topics are enormous, and your comments add depth to our discussion.
@DankHogan4 ай бұрын
Listening to an atheist speak about not having sacred rituals is RICH LOOOL GET JESUS GET BAPTIZED TAKE UR FIRST COMMUNION GET MARRIED HAVE A CHILD i cant stop laughing look at other religion's they have "rituals" because they focus on more then them selfs people all over the world have turned there back on religion and started worshipping them selfs 😂 Good luck with life essay n safe travels
@ColargolPL4 ай бұрын
Technical: You speak ever so softly, and still your voice is competing with the background noise, I mean background music... so I struggle hard to make out and comprehend your words, which I'd really love to hear!
@TheContainerPod4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@ColargolPL5 ай бұрын
"The most surrendered person in the room is the leader" - what a powerful statement! and it rings so true to me.
@ColargolPL5 ай бұрын
From what I gather, it's a Taoist idea of leadership: leading by following, often by non-action.
@TheContainerPod4 ай бұрын
Could not agree with you more! We started a whole series of episode on this EXACT idea called The Way That Can Be Told. Here is the first one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIDRdYKuqNpln68
@michaelduwel80125 ай бұрын
What a finish. Profound stuff guys, thanks for showing up and digging deep ❤
@TheContainerPod5 ай бұрын
So glad you got something out of it! We feel lucky to be able to have these kinds of conversations with a true master like Carolyn Lovewell.
@user__2146 ай бұрын
This was beautiful to watch! It was very courageous of you to show this process to everyone. I'd have difficulty doing that myself! Also I love the insight at 50:37. On an unrelated note, and a little less positive, I find your intro music very disquieting! It reminds me of a scary movie or something. I might actually mute and use subtitles for that part in the future, because it just really doesn't work for me.
@TheContainerPod6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! It's such a privilege to be able to bring this kind of vulnerable, real relating work to the public. And happy that there is a route for you to enjoy the intro in your own way!
@denisrichard586 ай бұрын
wtf did i just watch?
@TheContainerPod6 ай бұрын
A clip from the latest episode of The Container! You are officially invited to hop on over to the channel and check it out.
@dr_tomK6 ай бұрын
Good luck with your journey. I'm 9 months sober this month.
@TheContainerPod6 ай бұрын
We are very close in sober ages, then! We can do this. Major respect.
@Lukas-ye4wz7 ай бұрын
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *🌀 Trauma-informed circling aims to maintain depth while ensuring spaces are safe from triggering experiences.* 03:11 *🌍 Circling Europe began as a side project but quickly grew into a significant entity, fostering deep connections and transformative experiences.* 05:30 *🎓 The SAS (Soul Adventure Service) by Circling Europe emerged as a rigorous six-month circling training, emphasizing integration into daily life.* 11:19 *🧠 Leading trauma-informed circles involves understanding participant dynamics deeply without assuming a therapeutic role.* 15:13 *🔄 Circling's focus on connection naturally aligns with trauma-informed principles, aiming to heal through relational depth.* 26:49 *🌍 Circling Europe hosts free intro events regularly, both online and in-person, for newcomers to experience circling.* 27:33 *🎥 Circling Europe's documentary series on KZbin offers four episodes, providing an in-depth look into circling.* 28:46 *💬 John Thompson encourages newcomers to circling with hope and excitement, emphasizing the transformative potential of the practice.* 30:34 *💔 John expresses empathy for individuals who feel drawn to circling but lack access or ability to engage regularly.* Made with HARPA AI
@lynnehancock3857 ай бұрын
Why do use the K in magic?
@TheContainerPod7 ай бұрын
That's a very good question, and it opens up, I think, an interesting discussion. "Magick" (with that funky K) was an English spelling used as far back as the 17th century by occultists like Agrippa. So, it was an accepted alternative spelling for a while until the less redundant "magic" gradually took over. But in the 20th century, the term "magic" was more and more associated with illusion (like pulling bunnies out of hats), rather than what we might call "real" magick (like rituals to invoke spirits or divination or many of the practices of yoga). Aleister Crowley is generally thought to be the guy that started using the old spelling "magick" to refer to practices that try to make change in the universe, as opposed to making illusions. I chose "magick" for the spelling here for several reasons. 1) I think it is more accurate. 2) It takes a firmer stand that circling REALLY is something spooky, mystical, and beautiful--not an illusion. 3) It added the right dose of provocation. 4) It "felt right" when I saw the thumbnail. I hope this was fun and informative. Thanks for reaching out!
@ferrymaidman44667 ай бұрын
I am happy with this podcast, circling is the best for me, the stories help me to egt more context and deepening, learn to know more people/leaders
@TheContainerPod7 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it! Circling has really changed our lives, too.
@taleandclawrock26068 ай бұрын
11 minutes and still noone has said wth 'circling' actually is.
@TheContainerPod8 ай бұрын
Hey! If you are interested in what circling is, this is a quick explanation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fprEimiebdqZadk
@justasomeone78608 ай бұрын
This is the first video of your I've watched. Great content, and thank you. A tiny bit of constructive criticism - I find that music playing over people talking quite unpleasant, distracting and off-putting. I find it much easier to watch videos where there is no music playing at the same time as someone talking. And I reckon this particular kind of music is probably only liked by a relatively small proportion of the people who would be interested in this kind of content.
@TheContainerPod7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@matt28178 ай бұрын
Stay away from drugs, kids.
@susanseven78 ай бұрын
Snooze festival
@BCauj8 ай бұрын
I understand better the feeling I got when I did the base course with Els a few weeks ago ...... nobody said "why aren't you leading?" but I thought it a few times ...... the experience leaves some marks but it was also so very much teaching, cause parallel frustration came out and in the turmoil of it she made me understand that I could lead with whatever I had in the group ... It was the best way to really learn it ... Next times on I was full of love for the practice
@thekingdk8 ай бұрын
Super cool podcast. Though i do feel you just spend 40 minutes talking about a concept and its implications, without describing how is works? Is circling about sitting and looking each other in the eyes for some time? Is there further action to this practice? greetings from dk
@TheContainerPod8 ай бұрын
What a great question! I'd like to share some resources with you. In my experience, circling is the single most transformative modality for inner healing and psychedelic exploration. Below is a written guide and a video intro. www.thecontainerpod.com/post/a-beginner-s-guide-to-circling kzbin.info/www/bejne/fprEimiebdqZadksi=HgicdPgWmsLU_Deg
@billwhite50118 ай бұрын
This video coaching was quite good at showing how to implement a practice of exploring one’s trigger with another. Thank you all for your vulnerable and personal sharing. The person I was watching it with was so inspired by the fact that 2 people could explore a trigger in such a caring and compassionate way. I value the slow, exploratory process, which is how I also work. I like asking for the impact on the other from what has just been shared/revealed by one partner. Some thoughts and feedback as a relationship coach and observer of the session, if you’re looking for that... 1. I assumed it would be a coaching session to get to the heart of an upsetting situation. It was more an exercise, a practice, in exploring a past trigger. Maybe it would be useful to set an upfront context that this video isn’t about addressing a present trigger, but an exercise to practice exploring triggers in general. (I’d also really love to see Susan do a live coaching session with a couple in conflict-or any two people. I’ll be a guinea pig if you need one.) 2. I noticed that you had each of them come up with a separate past trigger. Then you went back and forth with each of them. For me, that seemed a bit complicated. My suggestion would be to stick with one person for a complete process and then go to the next person. Nevertheless, it worked in the end. 3. I know it was less than an hour, however, I would like to see some “accessing the influence of the past/childhood” related to the triggers. There may have been some quick reference to that, which I don’t recall.
@yourfavwhiteg9 ай бұрын
New favorite phrase. "Look at you down there with your yelling." 😂
@billwhite50119 ай бұрын
This was a very good exploration into using triggers as tools for growth, healing, connection
@relationshipfoundation81809 ай бұрын
Good thoughts and insights - Helping to bring together a more cohesive view that includes both psychology and awakening contexts..?
@JoeBrandAG10 ай бұрын
Trigger Warning: Music is on 600% volume Actual content is on 10% volume...
@TheContainerPod10 ай бұрын
😅
@theopenbedroompodcast10 ай бұрын
Sooo true 👏🏻
@loodog55510 ай бұрын
Currently, I’m amusing myself by picturing the Ministry of loneliness of the UK. Imagining some stereotyped DND basement dweller with poor hygiene, but probably it’s just another really normal-looking bureaucrat in a suit.
@loodog555 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, love this!
@mumma-ash273 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the parent thing. Have you got a coat? No, dont want one. Please take one. No, im fine. 3 days later. Sniff. Cough. Shiver. Cry. That is why im caretaking because now im your damn nurse too! 😂
@loodog55511 ай бұрын
"I'm your nurse" has a lot of assumptions in it, most centrally that this person requires your help, which is where the original caretaking came from anyway. If you're going fully independent here, you just wouldn't give them any nurse care or would give the nurse care without resentment, since it's still your choice to do it and your assumption that they can't cope without you. Of course, in the practical world of dependence, where children cannot be given full reign to make all their life decisions because they're children (or similarly for people with certain mental disabilities), you're going to wind up caretaking because certain people have limits to how much personal responsibility they are capable of. Romantic relationships are a challenging mix between independence and dependence. "Take care of yourself now because I'll be the one facing the consequences of your neglected ass later." On that front, I still wound up learning to just let my partner be. If they later feel shitty and take it out on me, I let them know I've been hurt and then withdraw as needed. That's the consequences ON YOU of the other person failing to look out for themselves. If that's what it takes for this person to act properly next time, then no about of short-circuiting those consequences via caretaking will teach that lesson any faster.
@mumma-ash27311 ай бұрын
@loodog555 love your response. I was only talking from the experience of myself and my child and I said it with love, 100%! ❤ I'm actually "care taking" today haha Relationship wise - you speak a lot of sense and I'm actually electing not to care take further than needed a lot more these days. You're right, you cannot short circuit these lessons unfortunately
@loodog55511 ай бұрын
@@mumma-ash273 Appreciate your response! Yeah, I'd say 90% of fights with my partner were caretaking issues and they were helped by both: (1) appreciating the irritated response to caretaking as healthy and (2) letting myself be with the discomfort of not being able to spare them whatever consequences I was worried they'd be facing and trusting them to be able to endure those consequences.
@jvsloan Жыл бұрын
Love the content and the positive, accepting chemistry among the host and guests! As a man in his mid-life crisis taking these lessons to heart will benefit me immeasurably.
@tomsortore8301 Жыл бұрын
Great way to start your meditation is just LISTENING TO ALL THE SOUNDS AROUND YOU
@onradioactivewaves Жыл бұрын
Now imagine how good your connections could be if you didnt speak in code.
@grahamdunn73 Жыл бұрын
Dude, your video explains exactly why you ain’t getting no pussy! Lmao
@be1tube Жыл бұрын
The form of noting meditation I learned is only noting sensation - categorizing it into one of 3: see, hear, or "feel" (every sensation that's not seeing or hearing.) Thought would usually be "hear" (as you hear the words internally) but sometimes "see". Emotion would usually be feel (the warm glow of love, the tight pain of fear.) So it was wild to see your four categories. It seems somehow less honest to note something so poorly known. "I don't know if it's happiness or heartburn, but I know my chest feels warm."
@valentinipuche3128 Жыл бұрын
have some consideration for the listener, talk with some enthusiasm
@ludologian Жыл бұрын
Ideology/ (ˈmɔːfɪk) / noun. the idea that, through a telepathic effect or sympathetic vibration, an event or act can lead to similar events or acts in the future or an idea conceived in one mind can then arise in another , this reflects in our social engagement aka the filter bubble
@harshalp24 Жыл бұрын
btw the video thumbnail is so good ❤
@tylerdavis3 Жыл бұрын
Also I’m not sure why I was recommended this but it’s cool I was. I have some constructive criticism if you’re willing to listen. You should probably have a prewritten and loosely rehearsed script with videos like this so you make sure you highlight all point you need to make and are able to know what’s going to come on next and have time to mentally prepare the next point without needing to read, think, “um..” and then finally start talking about your point. It’s better pacing to keep attention and have your audience actively listening, your pacing was a little slow so it was easy to get distracted while watching. Once you have a script you spend a lot less mental effort weighing how exactly you want to illustrate something happening and are able to dedicate that effort toward getting your point across and if there’s anything extra you want to add, or how it could relate or be relevant to another topic. Good vid tho I liked the topic and the depth covered.
@TheContainerPod Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thoughtful feedback! We are still in exploratory mode, figuring out the best ways to get the work we do out to the people who want to hear about it. Moving up this spiral, we're looking to find a better and better balance, creating better and better content. I imagine that journey will involve a lot of listening on our part! Hope to hear from you again in the future.
@tylerdavis3 Жыл бұрын
I read the title as “The Nothing Game” with “easiest way to expand your consciousness” and I’ve been watching like video essays on video games lately so I legitimately thought this was a video essay for a game called the nothing game. 🤣🤣🤣 Interestingly surprised thought, and a good reminder to meditate.
@chloecee5743 Жыл бұрын
It's weird that I stumbled upon this, cause I'm balls deep in an interpersonal therapy group and I feel like this is exactly on theme. 👁👄👁
@hitchpolla Жыл бұрын
This is so good
@TheContainerPod Жыл бұрын
So happy that you enjoyed our content. Let us know how playing the Noting Game goes for you!