One of my favs from this year’s RossFest! I seem to remember it being said the Handsome Norman blend came from Bridgewell Orchard the previous season too.
@corkandcrownАй бұрын
And I liked that one too.
@msuk91Ай бұрын
The shed lives!!
@Michael-vr3ufАй бұрын
I actually grow the real one. A real monster.
@BuszkraftowskiАй бұрын
Last year I walked the West Highland Way and had one of these. I am not a great Ciderfan, but this one was nice :)
@eliassommer8549Ай бұрын
3.45 that's a bit much
@msuk91Ай бұрын
Chris I'm starting to worry for the shed- is it ok? Does it even still exist?
@corkandcrownАй бұрын
It exists. It will be back.
@alisontaffs8883Ай бұрын
Great Perry. Cheers Chris x
@welshtoro32562 ай бұрын
Nice one Chris. My wife is Spanish and whenever we pay a visit to some of the family based in Valladolid (the capital of Castile) I always nip round to a wonderful fruit and veg shop that sells this cider and pick some up. It's probably about $2 euros a bottle. Even though cider is gaining popularity throughout Spain expressions like this are for a minority of serious food and drink people even in the region of production. We have an aunt that lives in the Asturian countryside and she would share in some if I opened a bottle. I'm also able to get my hands on some very craft stuff produced on a small scale and higher, natural, abv. It's not so easy to find and is completely still with a cork capsule. You almost have to come from a family with some background in the country and cider to enjoy it. You will find some of this stuff in the good siderias which are informal country restaurants in the north. The best food to have with it is, not surprisingly, large meaty dishes with plenty of fat such as roast pork or lamb. Good quality chorizos too and they can be cooked in cider. By the way, I recently made a belter of a dish by Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall which is leeks and mussels cooked in cider. Cheers. WT
@tg1736-k9u4 ай бұрын
Hi Chris had a cider at the weekend which had a chalky flavour on the finish have you come across this before and is it an off flavour thanks
@corkandcrown3 ай бұрын
Hello. Apologies for not responding to this sooner. I think I know what you mean. I sometimes get what I describe as an 'alkaline' flavour in certain ciders. This isn't something I've ever heard as being a fault but I do think the degree to which is perceived can certainly effect the drinking/tasting experience. If it's subtle and doesn't overwhelm the other flavours I think it's fine. Otherwise I think it would have to be considered a fault. Not sure what the cause is. You're question makes me want to find out! Do you remember which cider it was? C
@tg1736-k9u3 ай бұрын
@@corkandcrown Thanks for the answer. Stonewell Cider from Ireland. Not sure if it can be found in GB. It wasn't strong just a slight taste on the aftertaste.
@jackabussingly4 ай бұрын
Great review Chris! I find Yarlington Mill is almost effortlessly enjoyable as a cider varietal, good to see Smith Hayne up on your channel now too 🍎
@msuk915 ай бұрын
I tried this one at the Bristol Cider Salon recently, it was the first Yarlington Mill I've had that actually tasted like cloves (as people's tasting notes often say it does)
@corkandcrown5 ай бұрын
That's interesting. Hadn't heard about the clove thing with Yarly. Will investigate. Thank you for the comment.
@msuk914 ай бұрын
@@corkandcrown I think it goes along with the baking spice thing people sometimes mention. I will definitely be buying a bottle of it if I see it!
@streamleazefishhouse5 ай бұрын
Brown's Stout, foxwhelp, tremletted bitter are my top 3 varieties.
@jimmydodger46226 ай бұрын
When Wilding say rural method they mean cold racked to retain residual sweetness and then if fizzy last bit of fermentation naturally in the bottle. I doubt this is disgorged and they wouldn't top up with something else.
@corkandcrown6 ай бұрын
Hi You are correct. The issue is that some producers (in my experience) use 'rural method' and 'ancestral method' interchangeably. And some producers describe the process I outlined as the 'rural method' and include disgorging without freezing the neck of the bottle ('a la volee'). Artistraw in Herefordshire are one example. So I sometimes get mixed up!
@jackabussingly6 ай бұрын
They’re a brilliant producer, I agree with you totally Chris 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@TodoBienCider6 ай бұрын
¡Gracias otra vez, Chris! (Thanks again!)
@TodoBienCider6 ай бұрын
¡Muchas gracias, Chris!
@Lynxswild6 ай бұрын
In my experience with both cultivated and native yeast fermentations, a clean cultivated yeast imparts minimal characteristics and allows the inherent fruitiness to shine. The native fermentation is more an expression of the various flora and fauna existing in the must.
@corkandcrown6 ай бұрын
Hello. Thank you for your comment. Totally agree with this, and it is entirely up to the cider maker. My feeling is that I'd love to know how the wild yeasts/micro fauna from these varietals in their specific orchard would have changed the characteristics of the cider. It's a big risk to do this with an entire batch when you first begin down the road of cider production but as a control I think it would be a worthwhile opportunity to have a small batch of wild fermented cider run in tandem. Also, have a different variety of a neutral laboratory yeast (such as a Champagne yeast) in a control batch as well. In order to accelerate the learning process. My love of wild fermented ciders is just that, mine. But having worked with small production raw milk cheeses for a few decades (and beers to some degree) I know that nature tends to deliver more complexity than anything manufactured in a lab. But there are also inherent risks involved if you're running a business and are reliant on a predictable product and outcome. Having said that, good cider is good cider irrespective of the manufacturing process so that is the ultimate test.
@beckygray85397 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for reviewing us Chris! Love to get some expert feedback ❤
@jackabussingly7 ай бұрын
Love to hear of all the chance meetings that took place after London Cider Club. A very good crowd of cider fans 😊
@robbiefleming76487 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Chris, I’m glad you like it. That perry was pet nat, but because it had a bit too much sediment, I plan to riddle and disgorge the 2023 iteration. Slàinte Mhath!
@corkandcrown7 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting me try it! Will you dose it after disgorging? I'm assuming not as it'll probably be off dry anyway.
@robbiefleming76487 ай бұрын
@@corkandcrownI might dosage, but I’ll have to see where it’s at in July, perry is very fickle!
@corkandcrown7 ай бұрын
@@robbiefleming7648Very true.
@streamleazefishhouse7 ай бұрын
I thought for a drink to be called a Perry, the pears needed to be grown within viewing distance of May Hill in Gloucestershire?
@corkandcrown7 ай бұрын
Hello. Thank you for your comment. I think it's somewhat apocryphal. It was the heartland of perry making but I think it's possible that that was due partly to the glass technology which was developed in that area (which the French then took in order to bottle sparkling wines without fear of explosions). So lots of great perry was produced in the region in sight of May Hill (which if you've ever been up there includes a pretty large area) but it's not a hard and fast rule that it *must* be produced there. C
@streamleazefishhouse7 ай бұрын
@@corkandcrown I see it from the M5 every day on my way to Gloucester. The view from up that hill is great.
@rosscider7 ай бұрын
Hi Chris! Glad you liked this and I totally enjoy. For me Foxwhelp is just such a fun cider. If you go into it wanting something that isn't Foxwhelp, then of course it won't work, but when you have an open mind and want to be excited by a flavour, there's nothing like this apple. It really is amazing. And yes, it is definitely a bittersharp, it is just that the acidity is so high and intense that the tannins are very much a supporting act - but they help make it drinkable for sure. It's called 'C1' because when we first started to release our aspirational 750ml bottles, we started with Raison and then followed up with three single barrel bottlings. An oak cask Brown Snout, a Butt Pear S.V., and the C1 Foxwhelp from 2018 (that's why each of those subsequently released has a custom label instead of just our logo). C1 means Cider Number 1 - aka, the first pressing of the season, which the 2018 vintage was. It was actually the only Foxwhelp we had at all in that year and that made it very special. The lower yield on the trees seemed to really add depth and a point of difference to the flavour, so we only released a 'C1' from the 2018 vintage and the 2020 vintage that were both off-years for our trees with very low yield of apples. In 2022 however there was actually ten times as much Foxwhelp fruit! So it didn't fit the biennial pattern - but the growing conditions of that year made it so exceptional anyway. Normally Foxwhelp SG is around 1.054, but this C1 2022 had a starting gravity of 1.068! Nearly 15% more sugar than average. That is a huge amount of extra flavour packed into those apples.
@corkandcrown7 ай бұрын
Hi Albert. Thank you for the great response. I have to say I really love Foxwhelp and I'm not generally a fan of high acidity ciders. It is, as you say, fun. Interesting what you said about the 2022 sugar levels. The 2022 ciders and perries I've had so far have had noticeably higher ABVs. But have also been delicious. And I've still got quite a few to try! Tough gig.
@themeditativewalker65237 ай бұрын
I'm slowly working my way through your videos. Very good, BTW! I'd agree with your comment on Hecks dryness. If it says its dry, its dry. Try a pint of dry in the George and Pilgrims in Glastonbury and you're in for a mouth drought. Their medium is very good if you're like me, and can't hack the mouth puckerers.
@corkandcrown7 ай бұрын
Hi. Glad you're enjoying the films (there are a lot!).
@themeditativewalker65237 ай бұрын
My favourite of the Lyne down ciders. So good, it should be on speed dial...
@themeditativewalker65237 ай бұрын
IMHO Lyne Down make the best ciders in the UK by an organic country mile. Try their Brown Snout, Somerset Redstreak, medium, and their Perry. There are some fantastic cider makers near to them too, but they have me returning time and again, theirs is a product too good to miss.
@alisontaffs88838 ай бұрын
Cracking tasting Chris. “The aromatics go up the side of your head”. I love and also…: “no smoking gun” 🥰 very much enjoyed. What did James think? Should you keep some?
@corkandcrown7 ай бұрын
Hi, Alison. He was pleased with it. Came out as he expected (minimum sparkle and decent residual sugar) but I think there's more to come. I'd be surprised if it didn't become at least a fraction drier with a bit more sparkle. Might stash a bottle for myself and do a comparative tasting in a few months. The summer months should do the job.
@robbiefleming76488 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris, your reviews are so enjoyable and as a relatively new maker, they’re also very helpful and considered. I’m glad to see you back and hope you are well.
@corkandcrown7 ай бұрын
Hi Robbie. Sorry it took so long to get around to tasting this. Still got one of your perries to go. Looking forward to it!
@jackabussingly8 ай бұрын
Think this is tasting even better than last year at RossFest where it was launched. I’m very tempted to buy a case now as I think it’s got a good few years of ageing ahead of it too ☺️
@welshtoro32568 ай бұрын
Hi Chris, I hope that shoulder gets better soon. I had a shoulder problem that took a long time to sort out. It really played havoc with the most simple things. Luckily it didn't need an operation. Now, onto the cider. My wife is Spanish and we obviously spend a lot of time in Spain. Let me tell you that cider is really taking off in Spain. We all know about cider from Galicia, Asturias and the Basque Country but did you know that it's in supermarkets and specialist delis all over the country these days. You can go into a bar in Madrid, Malaga or Segovia, etc, and it's on tap. It ranges in quality, just as it does everywhere, but the best stuff is excellent. I buy some still cider from a shop in Valladolid which is real old style. It's still, bottled at good strength (about 7%) and the stopper is corked. It's Asturian but, as always in Spain, the Galicians will say theirs is the best and so will the Basques. Needless to say, I've gorged on great food washed down with cider in many a sideria. The obvious food pairing being chomping down on some pork dish but works well with generous Spanish fish dishes too. Just a few weeks ago I was in a fantastic Basque restaurant (Zerain) in Madrid which has a huge barrel of sidra built into the wall. The tap is high up and it pours out at a great distance in the traditional style. (If you're ever in Madrid it's a solid recommendation.) Unfortunately, the very best Spanish cider remains local with a tiny distribution. It's very hard to find outside the region it's produced in except in some high end delis (in Spain) that have an interest in high quality cider which will appeal to a tiny market. The price/quality ratio is still excellent. I really enjoy it in Spain but it's an uphill task to take on England's best producers. I recently read a great book about cider, published over 20 years ago, which went into great depth about our finest producers. The Gwatkin family are mentioned and it's amazing to hear about a generations old farming family and its symbiosis with nature, plant and animal, and how this is part and parcel with their production methods. It's that farmyard note that elevates good cider to excellent cider for me. One of the reasons I love Gwatkin's as well as their expert carbonation when it is carbonated. By the way, the Spanish pour down to the hot coasts during the summer. The population of Madrid probably halves during the summer because they're sunbathing all day on the coast of Andalucia and Valencia. Good luck Harry, I'll buy some of your sidra if you can point me to a retailer. WT
@TodoBienCider6 ай бұрын
Hi there, Thanks very much for your comment and encouragement. It's great to hear that you're a fan of Spanish cider and that you've frequented a few sidrerías in your time! I'll be sure to pay a visit to Zerain the next time I'm in Madrid - thanks for the recommendation. Cans of our sidra are currently available in Home Bargains stores in the UK. I really hope you enjoy it if you manage to get your hands on a can while stocks last. Gracias por tu apoyo. Un saludo, Harry
@poledanceira8 ай бұрын
Best wishes!!! Get well soon!
@Lynxswild8 ай бұрын
I’ve had several folks mistake KB blends as barrel aged in blind tastings. Especially when there is little to no experience with the variety. Wood and Smoke can be KB hallmarks.
@jackabussingly8 ай бұрын
Lovely to see you gracing the KZbin airwaves again Chris 😊 The world of cider and perry is richer for having you in it 😊
@richardspivey47018 ай бұрын
Good to see you back
@msuk918 ай бұрын
Glad to see you back Chris, I've only started watching your videos recently so it's nice to know you'll be reviewing some new stuff!
@adsfisher9 ай бұрын
How do you drink Keller lager? Caerphilly…
@neilthornton354410 ай бұрын
Finisterre is lands end in the wider cournaille region.The Breton are native Britons who escaped the genocide and slavery of the foreign colonial invasions by the Anglo saxons
@streamleazefishhouse Жыл бұрын
Have you tried anything from Joilter's press? Fantastic cider. I had Ross on Wye Brown Snout at a cider festival last year but it was bag in the box. Smelt like a cow pat, but tasted great.
@streamleazefishhouse Жыл бұрын
They now do two of these one which has been oak aged, one hasn't.
@welshtoro3256 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Chris. It sounds interesting. I haven't commented for a while and my viewing has been sporadic of late as well, but I just wanted to say that you have built a fine online catalogue. Well done.
@robbiefleming7648 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks sir, glad you like this one!
@corkandcrown Жыл бұрын
One down. Three to go.
@jackabussingly Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more! This is an outstanding Perry, one of the best I’ve tried this year.
@Lynxswild Жыл бұрын
Good to hear the whiskey notes were muted. Not a big fan of bittersweet/sharp blends with much whiskey or bourbon notes. Too many competing and clashing aromas. Nice sharps (Ashmeads Kernel, anyone) aged in those casks are better suited, imho.
@corkandcrown Жыл бұрын
I thought this was surprisingly well balanced. And I'm generally very sceptical/critical of barrel aged cider, beer etc. as they usually aren't done judiciously.
@simonbrant5901 Жыл бұрын
I heard Tom Oliver say somewhere that he is now only using Irish whiskey barrels, they are cheaper to buy and don't impart stuff that he prefers to not have in his ciders such as peat
@jackabussingly Жыл бұрын
Yay! Always a pleasure to see a new video from you pop up on KZbin 🎉
@ShaneEuston Жыл бұрын
Just had this for the first time, the good thing is I can drink this down pretty easily and don’t feel bloated and I am able to before and after
@welshtoro3256 Жыл бұрын
Cheers Chris. I'm not paid by Gwatkin's I swear but they just do no wrong for me. I agree with you about this scrumpy. It has a fully ripe, even bruised, apple impression which gives it a deep fudgy quality which the colour suggests. The bag in the box is more austere as always. I think scrumpy has a poor reputation simply because the stuff sold in most regular shops and supermarkets has been low grade commercial gut rot pretending to be traditional. What I like about Gwatkin's is that they are a company that make excellent introductory cider for those wanting to get into serious cider without compromising quality. They also cater to those used to high end stuff as well. I love visiting them when I'm in that part of the world and I have to mention their wonderful Red Cow restaurant which serves great food washed down with their own cider. Cheers. WT
@llanblethianorchards Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review :). Pen Caled is to my mind a triple purpose apple. Ripe it tastes like Ashmead's Kernel and has the same pear drop character but with a higher sugar content. Those Vigo corks really do stick in the bottles well, you are not the first LOL. And yes you said the name right, iechyd da!
@corkandcrown Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex!
@dfulton12477 Жыл бұрын
Great video Chris. Keep them coming. Just put in my first order on your site (delivered to my parents - as I don't live in the UK :) ). Onwards and upwards!
@corkandcrown Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dave. Hope you enjoy it when you finally get to drink it! Cheers Chris
@rosscider Жыл бұрын
The KB & BN blend was my favourite cider of the tranch we released at the festival last year because it was (and is) just an amazingly expressive cider that tells a fascinating story of fruit. But in general i prefer low acid ciders - hence Raison d'Être!! This one is actually a second fill of ex-rum casks. Cheers for the excellent review!