Nah he just got edge guarded stock 1 of game 2

Yeah bro using Corv what a loser

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He literally randomly up airs in the middle of that bro he was mashing so hard

He quite literally was mashing stop lying

I think he needs to either main zss to optimize her completely or drop the character entirely. Character is useable fs just not as a secondary or a tertiary.

bro i wish i had just watched the set on mute now. I hate this generation and unfortunately im apart of it.

@@tylermiller4588 If you hate someone who isn't directly a threat to you and yours, you're just paying them too much mind. Don't let it work you up brother.

Me when I lie:

Lmao. I hope you're trolling. Smash community has an incredibly high amount of mentally challenged people floating around. From pedophiles to sex offenders to men who think they are women... This is what happens when you get paid to play video games and never actually mature or grow up.

​@@joshua_kriegerdisgust is a legitimate emotion

the grab itself is actually really good her throws are just not good at all lol

@@thejigglybuff931how is her grab good? I don’t understand

@kogu1729 lemme see if I can explain this better, I'm referring to her physical grab as a separate move from all of her throws, looking at the properties and utilities of just the grab, its actually really good at catching landings and probably dash backs too, the reason you don't see it much is A: it still has decent amount of ending lag like most tether grabs, and B: the reward for landing it, in true ZSS fashion, just isn't good, does that clear things up better?

@@thejigglybuff931 I understand but I disagree, it might cover landings and potentially dash backs, but it’s also a frame 15 grab that lasts almost a full second (58 frames) meaning that most characters can punish with a charged smash attack for missing a grab, which is really bad. I guess you could make the argument that it’s better at some things (catching landings and dash backs) better than other grabs, meaning it has a niche and is therefore good, but I agree with OP more especially since ZSS has other tools to cover those options that aren’t as committal/have much higher reward

@kogu1729 yea your right it is super commital with 33 frames of ending lag however I'm talking more so about her dash grab, because it's reaches into mid range territory, this means if a character has an annoying mid range poke tool, like a joker gun or a zair it would synergies well with them since those moves condition shielding you could dash grab as a mixup, I'm sure joker would do just fine with her grab because he could mix it in with his other mid range tools pretty well (although unfortunately that would gut his already bad oos game, however shielding as joker isn't typically that good anyway) the bad part is like you said, can't really be used oos and it's commital

first 30 secconds trying to explain how marss missed the ledge

Marss isn’t as good as he used to be.

@@xanander4693his point still stands you must be a steve player Mald

People who still get this heated over Steve need to go outside and look at a blade of grass. Yell at me all you want. I will not elaborate further. Goodbye.

​@@gabrielabrera9966no need to yell... You're trash 🗑☠🙏🏿

He was consistent in tournaments since the release of the game

you should watch genesis 7 gf against mkleo (i dont know much of the game, but i enjoy marss's zss)

@@rubenleal8833 yeah I believe that was a major tournament he won also he won another major against leo using falcon lol

I've seen it too many times. Usually it just ignores the ledge grab though and kinda like bounces off, or just goes straight instead of grabbing ledge. Idk what this was.

Welcome to what made me drop zss. There are straight up certain angles on certain stages where it will not work that I affectionately call dead zones

As a zss main, it happens too often. Sometimes you just die, and meanwhile byleth or joker tether exist. It's wild.

first time heh

I usually side b in that situation since I’ve noticed it snaps to ledge more often

And he mashed dair with no iron lmao Steve players are a hive mind I swear