~450$ CAD if I remember correctly. Wasn’t cheap that’s for sure.

Thanks for the parts!

Right? Had to settle for what I could find haha. Appreciate you!

About $550 CAD all in. Nostalgia is expensive.

@@AndrewGerlitz oof, I hope it serves you a long time. Thanks for mentioning ugly designs of other devices. If I someday decide to put all my music collection in one place- definitely it will be an ipod classic...

Long live the iPod! Many core memories for me. Glad to see you keep the legend alive!

Just a different era ☹️

Appreciate it, glad you enjoyed!

So many systems to look into nowadays, excited to see what you come up with!

Thanks for the support! I was about time to document some of the things I've been working on. Question is whats next? Appreciate you!

One of the partners is an electrician. Thats actually how I learned all this in the first place. The electrician we called to investigate and replace the outlet mentioned there were poor connections on that outlet. Some proper fire suppression systems would definitely be something to put in place taking on a project like this again.

Glad you enjoyed it! Was very cool to get everything running and definitely some out of the box thinking. Had a lot of fun along the way!

I was a little surprised it wasn’t the ASICs that did it. Oh well, glad everyone’s ok!

I feel that. My buddy had an e92 we flashed with JB4 on his cell phone. I was blown away haha.

You can use the CANtac reader I mentioned if you can find one, it was a good opener for us, all in was about $100 CAD. The software we used was also free/opensource. School bought the device for us, so I don't actually own one, I'm looking into alternatives myself.

@@AndrewGerlitz Thank you for the advice.

I know the feeling, I was told it was too much when I picked the project. Like any project, lay out everything you want to accomplish, and start working at it one thing at a time. In your case, I'd focus only on getting a reader, and figure out how to sniff data. Once you get a feel for that, then look at actually forging some packets (Start simple, like a traction control light! See if you can find the DBC file for your car on the internet, it'll save a ton of time). Then you should have a better idea if what you want is feasible via CAN, or if you need to make any adjustments. Worry about the transmission of the data and the server side stuff later (Something like a rasPi or arduino with a GSM module can take care of that). Feel free to DM me on X if you have questions.

Noted, you can tell by the pinout of your OBD port, depending which pins are populated you can tell what protocol is used.

Would be interesting to explore!

Artificial limitations. The bane of my existence!

I'm sure that's all in development as we speak. Appreciate you!

Still feeling things out, Ill do my best!

@@AndrewGerlitz I think cars and their control data after a certain date should become open source or public domain

How I never came across him in my studies is beyond me. Unbelievable and RIP indeed.

Appreciate you! It's a fun and challenging project to take on, I would definitely give it a try!

You are my kind of people! What I can tell you is Apple Car Play will not work if you have a VPN enabled on your device (at least in my 2019 Elantra). If I figure it out, Ill let everyone know!

@@AndrewGerlitz Make it open source!... ask for donations! Once that kind of sniffer is in the wild, those mega corps will be pulling their collective hairs out! lol

With an oscilloscope or protocol analyzer connected to the telecommunications antenna, the bitstream can be intercepted. 😉

Do you CRC's?

@@honestlocksmith5428 Some manufacturers think crcs will help them but you can clearly see what changed and decode it, it’s only slightly more effort..

@platin2148 That's true. It's calculated and added to verify the authenticity of a message. Beyond that, what are you talking about? I'm curious to learn more.

@@honestlocksmith5428 MacSec and also some stuff that isn’t yet public.

Sadly the car hacking village wasn’t a thing while we were working on it, we did go to BSides at the time but topics were unrelated. Appreciate you!

@@AndrewGerlitz ever find yourself at BSidesLDN, we have a great car hacking village run by minty. I Goon there, ask for Bazza.

It’s funny, I never really thought anyone else would find it all that interesting. Guess I was wrong! Appreciate you!

Glad you enjoyed!

Was meant as anything fairly new, I’ll have to specify next time. As for the music, it’s definitely too loud, just some growing pains haha.

@@AndrewGerlitz no worries, that’s what growth and adaptation is all about. I personally was hoping for a bit more in-depth exploration of CAN hacking, but I think this is a good “primer” video for anyone just getting their feet wet or discovering CAN stuff. You seem to have no issues presenting clearly and in a manner that I’d think was pretty easy to follow and understand for just about anyone looking for content on this topic. I may have been a little too pedantic/nit-picky with your wording, I tend to be that way with accuracy sometimes. I feel like a majority of people ending up on this content are likely to be more familiar with what vehicles do and don’t have CAN, but I thought about it from the perspective of someone who ended up on this video with very little knowledge of cars and CAN who had a budding interest. Purely trying to provide constructive feedback, not nitpick just for the sake of it.

Canbus was introduced in the mid 80s and has been on all US cars since the late 90s

@@UnlikelyToRemember I agree with CANbus being developed and introduced in the 80s, by Bosch if I recall. But I disagree with it being in “all” US cars since the late 90s. I’ve owned, worked on, and modified a number of late 90s and early 2000s vehicles that only had single wire class 2 serial or some other variant of a single wire serial protocol to communicate between control modules as well as available at the DLC. I actually don’t recall seeing CANbus between any modules in GM vehicles until around 2004, and at least some those particular ones I can recall didn’t have the CANbus present at the DLC and still used Class 2 serial between all the modules as well. It may have indeed existed in some US vehicles since the late 90s, but certainly not “all” of them based on my experience.

@@Moddage I stand corrected, ODB-II was mandated in 1996, but it didn't have to be CANBus until 2008

You bet, thanks for watching!

Right? Artificial limitations are such a joke. Appreciate you!

Long term that's the plan!

Happy to hear!

Appreciate the kind words! I have a bit of a window to figure things out, but it’s experience that will help in the long run regardless of what happens. You the real MVP!