Thanks. Zebco does an amazing job. The first spincasts I used were Daiwa SC 120s. Still have them. But like you, I love Zebcos.

Thanks Ed, It was a great day!

take the cap off and turn the handle. Does the spinner cone have a balanced spin or does it wobble. Does it bind up without the cap on?

I just use a boars hair acid brush. You can find them on Amazon or any hardware store. You could also use an old tooth brush to apply grease to the gears.

@@OutFishing13Matthew Ok , After sending my message, then watched another of your videos, I realized that your brush WAS the one with the Boars Hair. Yes ,the toothbrush will also work fine,but really prefer the pencil style brushes. Thanks for your reply and I really enjoy your video’s, they really helped me tremendously while disassembling and reassembling some of my Dad’s old reels. I have 2 of his Johnson Brand reels! I took them apart, cleaned and have placed them in a show case in my Man Cave! I seen almost everyday now and wonder just how my Bream and Shell Crackers he caught with these reels.

That is a great question and a good idea for a video. Old vs New. Some years ago, Zebco started making different classes of reels that varied in quality. The USA made 33s were a mid-quality reel and was very durable and highly serviceable. It generally had steel gears and steel bushings. It was easy to service and was very tough, providing years of service if taken care of. I still use 33s that are 30-40 years old and they work great. I have some old 808s that are 50 years old and I use them for cat fish. The USA made Omegas are of high quality and had bearings. Top of the line reels. When operations moved to China, some quality went down, but some went up. The 33s have pot metal or aluminum gears, but had brass or plastic bushings. Or the gold or platinum 33s had bearings. The Omega and Delta has brass gears and stainless bearings. I have seen some of the China made 33 with stripped out gears and unusable. I don't want to discourage you though. Most problems to a reel occur when the reel is abused, like setting trying to undo a snag without setting the drag really tight or holding onto the line. Or the reel is never serviced and lubed. The China made and USA models are great reels and will last you many seasons when properly used and serviced.

@@OutFishing13Matthew I like that you can still get high quality spin cast reels, a video on new vs old reels would be very interesting! I’ve been repairing the old ones I find and your videos have been very helpful, I’m glad there are others that like to fix stuff instead of throwing it away.

I would love to, but I don't have a Zebco 164 in my collection. I do have a repair video on the Omega 154. Here is the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXzdl3WwgdGqfLc Often when requests like yours come in, I go find one on Ebay, but there is nothing listed right now. If you will send me an email, perhaps we could work something out.

@@OutFishing13Matthew I disassembled and cleaned mine today. It is substantially different than the 154 in so many ways. It has an oscillating spool. Some parts that are normally under the spool are actually on top of the spool. The drag washers don't require any lube. I'd attach a few pictures for you but I don't know if that's possible on here.

@@klink370 Very interesting. I will keep searching eBay for a 164. You can email me at [email protected]

You are so right. It is beautiful and the fishing was good.

It's really hard to say why there is a price difference. I looked and see the price is between $27 and $30 for an 888. The less expensive model may be from 2022 or 2023 and Zebco recently released a new model 888 and Walmart is asking for the MSRP. Who knows?

@@OutFishing13Matthew ty, I enjoy your videos

@@QCBrian.. yw

They are good reel. Thanks for noticing!

@@kentfonda8245 Utah state up in the mountains

Jim, Thanks for your comment. I have a few 404s. I will compare them to this one. Did any of the 404s come with the scalloped spinner cone? I hope we can figure out what model this is exactly.

Matthew, the 202 was introduced in 1961 and was called the ZeeBee 202. The 404 came 2 years later in 1963 and was called the BigBee 404 It was a larger version and they both had multi point pickup spinnerheads. The first 202 had a 4 notch spinnerhead that was replaced by a 20 notch a little later and was used the whole run of the USA made 202s. The 404 is a little larger and has 22 notches. I like your videos best because you don't act like a know it all like some do while putting out misinformation. I will let you know if I find out when this reel was made. Jim

@@JamesJones-ll7jw Thanks, Jim! I appreciate the information and feedback.

well done!

I think you will be impressed. They are well made. My favorites are still the All American Original. Zebco.

Thank you!

Abu Garcia has made the Abumatic for a long time. The most famous model is the 170. Start there.

I made it two weeks ago. :) And it was a great fishing trip. Thank you!

I just used bailing wire to wrap the bait with and put it in the trap. But you could use a 2/O hook and do it that way.

Glad it was helpful!

They are great reels and a good way to introduce fishing to novices. Or for the experienced fisherman who loves to save $.

Thank you. And thanks for watching and commenting.

I have not tried braid yet. I need to do that soon and do a review about it.

Well, the ProStaff is no longer manufactured. I seem to recall that a ProStaff was made to used in salt water. I think now Zebco makes a "Salt" version of some of their larger reels. The 888 used to be the ProStaff version of the 808. It now has more bearings and an instant Anti-reverse.

Thanks. And thanks you for watching and commenting.

@terrydees5998 thanks for watching and commenting

@@justinjdavis79 awsome

@@edwardroberts2997 this one is brand new

@@adnacraigo6590 and they last a long time

@Rpfarmer1988 thanks for watching

That is a cool idea. Find fish with one rod and fish with the others.

@@OutFishing13Matthew Yeah and it has a phone holder that attaches to the pole right in front of the reel. Uses a wifi app. I got a cheap ATT $35 designated phone so I can keep mine in my pocket. No monthly fee cuz I didn't get phone service. I use it for my drone app too. It has Android 11 on it.

Grease will not impact your casting distance. If you have too much on the moving parts, it may make reeling in a little stiff.

You're so welcome!

Thanks for watching and commenting. What a bargain. It is a great little reel and is perfect for small pan fish. Specially Crappie, white bass, perch, bluegill and the like. Even trout fishing. It isn't meant for large lures, that are in the 1/2 ounce or bigger range. I'd say 3/8 at the max. Enjoy it.

We used worms to catch the walleye and perch. The first trout took powerbait and I caught the last trout on a blue tiger flicker shad by Berkley.

@@tomritter493thanks for watchingand commenting. It was a great trip. The fish tasted very good.

@@edwardroberts2997 I don't mind. Hope you find someone to go fishing with

@@Rpfarmer1988 you're welcome. Thanks for warching

@@adnacraigo6590 it is a great fishery. Watch my videos from a few weeks before. We caught some really nice trout

That was a fun day. I wonder what the perch fishing will be like as the summer progresses.

@@edwardroberts2997 I still have the old one. I went on a trip with my old neighbor in his boat.

@mjpena53 it depends. If it needs parts I may not be able to help you.

@GregGroce contact Zebco and mail the reel to them. They will fix or replace it.

@@tomritter493 thanks

@@Rpfarmer1988 yw

@@farhenheit628of1200 I don't know.

@@OutFishing13MatthewI found out it is. Will be purchasing the goldcast III and silvercast soon!