Hi Judy yes it’s just an opinion but makes sense to me lol. GRP cabinets are readily available online. You want one large enough to allow the required ventilation space around the inverters. Your installer should be able to source one easily. They do carry a larger price tag than steel sheds which is why most people don’t use GRP domestically tbh. Depending on the size of your setup these are a good option to use www.emiter.co.uk/product-category/grp-cabinets/

There is no rules on this, just my opinion and methods. As discussed in the video I view it in the same way I would PME service heads outdoors. With consideration of the requirements with caravans and such. We need to remember the gateway in/out has no RCD protection on it. The earth electrode or in this case condudisc would help mitigate risk to a degree. But it’s avoidable risk. My question would be why use one? Other factors are to do with first responders and while enclosing batteries in steel seems like a very logical and prudent thing to do. In the worst circumstances it doesn’t burn away and by nature is conductive. Potentially making a bad situation worse. The heat is insane when these things go wrong. The tin sheets would melt and warp all over. You then have the explosive aspect. The videos are out there of garage doors being blown out. But crucially still attached to the building. Timber and GRP would still suffer with this but is more likely to hold together or snap. The steel shed are usually very thin sheets, riveted and screwed. My view is shards and sheets of sharp metal are an unnecessary risk to anyone coming to tackle a fire or get to the equipment and turn it off pre an explosion. It’s fair to say I often over think things, LFP battery issues are super rare, nil in the UK so far as I am aware. But if we have decided they should be outdoors I’ve approached it in a way I think mitigates risk and can be made to allow for the best longevity and performance of equipment outdoors. Others will see it differently and that’s just fine.

There is no rules on this, just my opinion and methods. As discussed in the video I view it in the same way I would PME service heads outdoors. With consideration of the requirements with caravans and such. We need to remember the gateway in/out has no RCD protection on it. The earth electrode or in this case condudisc would help mitigate risk to a degree. But it’s avoidable risk. My question would be why use one? Other factors are to do with first responders and while enclosing batteries in steel seems like a very logical and prudent thing to do. In the worst circumstances it doesn’t burn away and by nature is conductive. Potentially making a bad situation worse. The heat is insane when these things go wrong. The tin sheets would melt and warp all over. You then have the explosive aspect. The videos are out there of garage doors being blown out. But crucially still attached to the building. Timber and GRP would still suffer with this but is more likely to hold together or snap. The steel shed are usually very thin sheets, riveted and screwed. My view is shards and sheets of sharp metal are an unnecessary risk to anyone coming to tackle a fire or get to the equipment and turn it off pre an explosion. It’s fair to say I often over think things, LFP battery issues are super rare, nil in the UK so far as I am aware. But if we have decided they should be outdoors I’ve approached it in a way I think mitigates risk and can be made to allow for the best longevity and performance of equipment outdoors. Others will see it differently and that’s just fine.

The AIO can be installed with only a canopy. But you will see reduced performance in the cold and hot weather.

​@@electrician247 thanks Mark.. I think I need to hold on for the new Anker aio by the sound of it then I've heard that's been tested for all weathers. Wonder how much it'll be🤔😏

@@judebrown4103 many of these systems are rated for -20 +50 but nearly all will say a recommended range of 0-30C This is an unavoidable consequence all lithium batteries struggle with. Performance drops off at low/high temps. The way it’s mitigated is via internal heating/cooling or housing in a suitable place you have a fighting chance of maintaining that core temperature range most of the time. Direct outdoors will always be very very hard. If budget isn’t a factor the Tesla power wall 3 has some interesting specs!

Only with older inverters that require 300mA in some cases

One of my 2 house RCDs trips in island mode, I experimented with 300mA and it no longer trips. I don’t think 300mA is permitted in a domestic setting so I need to look at replacing the whole consumer unit with RCBOs…

@@MCow123 ahh okay. I thought you meant the PV RCD in the gateway was operating. We have had that before. The tripping will likely be earth leakage inrush when the milli second drop out occurs. This is why we are limited to 9mA natural leakage on any RCD now. I would clamp meter the LN tails on the consumer unit set to record peak value. Turn the main switch off and back on. See what spike you get. Then it’s a case of finding the problem equipment or swapping the RCBOs which tbh would be my recommendation anyway.

Cheers mate

You can see in the video that it isn’t . So nope it’s not 💪

@@electrician247 wasn’t paying that close of attention just asked a question

Some brands state not to cut them. I leave them long when possible so they can be moved if required. But sometimes also trim them. We do what we like 🤣🤣

Yes, they connect together

The tools themselves have applications for those who work live under permits etc. I don’t disagree generally that we should be working in dead conditions. However mistakes can happen, human nature and these tools might just save you when it happens

Read the prior comments anything can be done. Perspective and perception

You can use DIN ones so long as local to the equipment. We have some examples of this coming 💪

@@Dlc18139 aye, I was thinking would it not be better if it clipped onto the bottom of the DB, clear of the switchgear?

It’s not the best example on this board. It does hang below it and is adjustable on the brackets.

It is adjustable and can hang below the board. They have thought about this.

Don’t fall out with that idea at all mate. I did consider an upfront afdd on this but went against it to aid fault finding if they get upset and trip. I think I’m going to add AFDDs to a few of the other circuits down here as I move everything over and get setup 💪

Read the comments and contact a local electrician to answer question 2. Thanks

lol, yeah I’ve seen some shockers in the commercial world that’s for sure! Cheers mate.

You are pretty much there tbh mate. Yep the GivEnergy hybrid can only ever output a max of 5kW be that to house loads or to export. But it can take up to 7.5kW of PV input and use that extra 2.5kW (or more depending on what house loads you have at that time) into the battery. If the battery is full it’s clipped away. It would depend on your usage and consumption to decide if it’s workable or not. Also worth remembering the output of your array is based on standard test conditions so at times it will go above 6.9kW but those occasions would be limited to cool but bright days (PV performs better in colder temps). If it was me I would cover it off with a bigger inverter but it does depend on the above points

@@electrician247 Many thanks for the reply.

@@electrician247 Hi, just to clarify the system size is 6.9kw 16x430 panels, but the Estimated annual output (kWp x Kk x SF) is 5,043, does that make any difference? Cheers

@@gregcarnall9097 not really. It’s all about the peak generation and what you consume day to day. I would take advice from your installer.

A much wider area than first expected tbh! We are based in east yorkshire. This install was near Peterborough

In terms of fitting I have no concerns about them going forward. In terms of the claims around generation, time will tell! But signs look good to me!

Cheers Harry. Maybe this old dinosaur is happy to learn and admit I was wrong 🤣

Life is full of options for different people. That said if you are paying a grand for eddi you got done lol. ATM it’s better to just export your excess generation anyway rather than heat water with it on certain tariffs. I would close by saying consumers will get a much better return on investment by utilising smart abilities in the technology rather than manual function. It’s false economy and over the years you will lose out without it. Especially as tariffs adjust. Consumers would be wise to take a longer term view and understand the best ways to get the best value from all these options.

@@electrician247 … but isn’t it just the same electricity? I know my battery is fullest at about 14:00 o’clock so I just set the timer for then?

@@jamesgalloway8835 with the intelligent tariffs, fluctuation in weather and unpredictable energy costs its not so simple no. With the eddi for example you can send 200W to the element when you have that in export rather than dump 2-3kW at it because a battery is fullish. Way better ways to maximise return.

2 years ago you might be right. Things change. 2 halls, not 1. 600 exhibitors including many electrical. Even better if you plan to work on solar and battery systems.

@@electrician247 Fair enough. I listen to various podcasts and watch various You tube sparks, if it gets a good shout then I might go next year. Always keep an open mind. By the way, I love the chemistry between Jamie Sam and your self when your on. One northern hot head, one cockney hot head and steady you with the voice of reason in the middle. Love it. It’s great pod and tree boys do it really well. Keep it up.

@@darrenpidgen6207 it was a great first day. If your into solar already loads there for us. It’s growing year to year for regular sparky stuff. Still to many plumbers knocking around for my liking so I get it 🤣. Sam and Jamie are good mates. We all disagree with each other often but the respect is there for our honesty towards each other! What I want to know now is was you a buying of the wanking chair T shirt and if so will you wear it in public? 🤣🤣🤣

@@electrician247 ok that’s good to know. I may give it another go next year. I haven’t ventured into the solar side of things. I’m just a self employed sole trader and the initial investment is just out of my reach at the moment. 🤣🤣🤣 in relation to the T shirt, well the wife or customers may not appreciate it. So it wouldn’t be for me. But seriously I do like your content, very calming and reassuring with fact based data to back it up. Keep it up we need people like yourself to help guide us through the tangled web of everything the industry throws at us.

It happens lol.

That would depend on the cable installation method. Conduit, in insulation or clipped direct. Not a setup I would recommend tbh

@@electrician247 Thanks for the reply. I managed to find out it’s 'clipped direct'. However, below the consumer unit is a switch that enables me to turn the EV charger on and off. 20A Double Pole switch. I assume this would not be a good thing having 25A passed through it?

@@SPDTDL yes that should be replaced for a suitably sized isolator. Tbh I would want the circuit adjusting. I would doubt very much it is ungrouped and not in any insulation along its run.

Both have the same pin outs just different colours in the cables so can only be visually identified. If you can’t do that you can’t do it. Seak the services of someone who can would be my best advice

@@electrician247 I will ask the construction company to supply me with this information since the house will not be completed until July 31st, 2024. Thank you for your comment.

Yes

We covered that in the videos on this one. The customer has a TT earthing arrangement during grid mode. Off grid this becomes the TNS reference earth for the inverters

Thanks for the reply Mark! Enjoying your videos very much

🤣 you sure we didn’t. You sound confident

@@electrician247 isn´t it required to cover the unisolated poles of the busbar? 🕊 /edit: Okay, a few people asked about ist. So it is not required in the UK. Then that´s fine. - Btw I like your argument pro cableties.

It can be used in plug and go mode but that needs to be setup in the app….

It’s a grey area in terms of connecting equipment. If it is ENA approved one argument is you should be able to connect anything you like within the existing supply capacity. Another angle on that is you need agreement to export power into the grid as you can effect voltages in the local area. Our approach is the same as eon we will not install equipment than export beyond a G98 level without prior approval. You could install and limit the export to within g98 limits during the application but again that is grey lol. All that said G99 applications are usually faster than the lead time on an installation in any case. I would also advise some shopping around beyond energy suppliers as value is not always best delivered in those places.