VFR 750's were somewhat pedestrian compared to the CB1100R's that were released a few years earlier.

@@peterfalconer-h3k VFR's handled though which matters in racing. The original VFR also won at the Isle of Man near standard and Ron Haslam managed 3rd place at Donington Park on a stock one. I've ridden faired UJM's and they wouldn't get close. Around some tracks I think I could have beaten one with my RG250 Gamma when I was 18, that's if the CB1100R could even stay on the track. No such dinosaur bikes ever got close to me on the road on anything other than a straight. I've had plenty of laughs at GPZ's and similar tat on my early trackdays, they literally don't hold onto tarmac at all. Even FZR1000's and GSXR1100's were laughable, I was beating them on a GS500E once which I took out for a crack.

At the very top actually, CB1100RB's were released in 1980 and they were based on the RCS 1000's

Were the eligible for Superbike racing. You could mention the early FireBlade but it wasn't within the rules. It was based on the RC30 as a budget version.

They were a GSX 1100 engine with different cams. Suzuki's four stroke race bikes at the time were based on the 2 valve GS 1000 engine.

@@madhatter9622 because it was a sports tourer, not a superbike.

Goldwing you mean 😂

CB1100RB's came a few years before the VF was released.

this is actually tricky , now I think weren't the vfs the first proper superbike in AMA

Or was it a cb750?

@@jamsstar2010 VF's were the first factory produced superbike that was based on a roadgoing bike. They were actually 860cc and the bloody things were damn near unbeatable for a couple of seasons here in Australia. Prior to that there was a range of performance parts available from Yoshimura or Moriwaki, it wasn't that difficult for a privateer to turn a road going bike into a very competitive race bike.

I had exactly the same bike as Tom Cruise in 1986. It was a GPZ900R.

@@juliomanalo7074 l bought my GPz900R at the end of 1984

Definitely GPX600, GPX1000 never a 900!ATB👍👍

I thought the GPz900R was cool until I got the chance to ride one. They are not even that great for their era, basically a fast sports tourer. The Yamaha FZ750 is far superior, just as quick but lighter, less top heavy with better brakes and decent handling. Admittedly the one I tried did have OWO1 wheels and brake discs, calipers were stock as was the rest of the bike and it had 80,000 miles on the clock. Also the GPz's weren't the most reliable or had the toughest motors, I never heard of anyone blowing up an FZ750 though. I also had a go on the original 1980's ZX10 which was everything I imagined a GPz900 would have been. That would be my pick if you are hell bent on a big retro 80's Kawasaki. The back tyre is a bit skinny and would spin up easily out of every corner but the frame and suspension always made me feel in control.

@@Ray916MN that was the truth story !

A bike is only as good as its performance specs....looks? dont mean SQUAT if it cant deliver ...

So water colling is better than oil ? Or just for this comparison of a Honda engine and GSXR ?

The original GSX R 750 weighed 176 kg and that was at least 50 kg's lighter than it's direct competition. Defining bikes as belonging to any particular generation is an interesting question, l'd regard a CB1100RB as the first real superbike in that it was actually based on a race bike so maybe that's the first generation and given it's significant weight reduction, maybe the original GSX R 750 is the beginning of the second generation.

The guy screwed up by a DECADE

I'm from that era and ridden nearly every sportsbike from then. For me the YZF was the better bike to ride than the SRAD GSXR and the ZX7R is one of my favorites due to excellent suspension, brakes and mid corner stability even though they are a bit slower than the other 2, also looks better. On track I observed that generally ZX7R riders were the fastest (which would make sense as mid corner stability is super important) followed by the GSXR with very few people using a YZF, I never saw anyone quick on one. In racing the ZX7R and GSXR SRAD both had similar performances, coming runner up in British Superbikes and high points placings in world superbikes. The ZX7R had to go up against the first 1000cc superbikes in BSB when the rules changed and Glen Richards could still get the odd podium. The YZF750 won British Superbikes in the late 90's but was pretty average in WSB I think. The SRAD GSXR isn't great for reliability but standard probably has the most potential to be the fastest as a stock bike of the 3. I personally found it the hardest to ride where the newer K1 is one of my favorite sportsbikes of all time. During the era of these bikes it was all about the Ducati until the 1000cc 4 cylinder bikes came in. From the 916 up until the 998 it was just incremental improvements, the Japanese couldn't keep up until the SP1. The Honda SP1 and SP2 are the bridge between old school superbikes and the 2nd generation with an odd Aprilia in there somewhere.