Я сомневаюсь в том, что в 10 литрах масла можно заказать корпус тисков. Этого количества масла хватить лишь на 10 граммовую деталь... Плохая работа ребята, надо знать теорию и практику!
@melgross3 жыл бұрын
I was really nervous about such a large part being put into such a small plastic tub of oil. I use a 36 quart stainless stockpot, with a cover that can be dropped on the top with a push of my foot in an emergency. I have 7 gallons of actual quenching oil inside. It’s not that expensive, particularly for a business. Most other oils are contaminated by ingredients that shouldn’t be in hot contact with the steel, and have a flashpoint that’s too low. I don’t see that large, thick part being properly quenched in such a small volume of oil. I noticed that you mostly held the part without moving it much. This might be fine for a knife, but for precision tooling, it’s not. I’m sure Stan will grind it nicely, and that the surface will be about where it should be. But I wouldn’t trust the long term stability of it.
@bigbob16994 жыл бұрын
Please tell us that the maker of the vise knew exactly what steel he used . You need MORE pre heated oil and a hood . A heat treating foil wrap would be a great help .
@melgross3 жыл бұрын
This whole thing made me shudder.
@Za7a7aZ4 жыл бұрын
A link to the next would have been great.,..
@luizguilhermecosta72214 жыл бұрын
Hello. what type of steel was this vise produced? thanks. Luiz Guilherme
@jacoblee34765 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have an old mill I'd like to rebuild just like yours, but I cant find a name on it. Old and missing parts, can you tell me the name of it?
@harrisevo5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Lee it’s a Rong Fu. You can gets parts from Enco You have to call them. Also check out Cuppa Joes channel
@shantahsieh28776 жыл бұрын
Try some new solutions from Avasva solutions.
@tomthumb30856 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Always good to see a new maker on the scene. There can never be too many good makers.
@GucciGirlandGrumpy7 жыл бұрын
Knife making is such a cool art. I watch forged in fire all the time. I wish I had that skill.
@harrisevo7 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's my son that's the knife maker. Looking forward to following y'all on the trail.
@deej191428 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a glowing fire bomb! And I thought it was hot opening the oven to check the turkey. YOUSER!
@harrisevo8 жыл бұрын
Yep. This was only 1550 F. Some steels are up to 1920 F. Its like getting your shirt ironed on your body LOL. Thanks for the comment
@ermerins8 жыл бұрын
good content and interesting work. the handheld camera is distracting.
@harrisevo8 жыл бұрын
+S Ermerins Thanks. I don't disagree but one uses what one has. I'll strive to do better.
@hobbycollector93908 жыл бұрын
Great Video, thanks for sharing
@harrisevo8 жыл бұрын
+Hobby Collector Glab you enjoyed it.
@mrbluenun8 жыл бұрын
Hi, And thank you for a really interesting video. I know these thinks like a mill or lathe are not gotten in the flash of an eye but it must be really terrific to be able to work on a project at any time, AND have the skill to do so! Take care mrbluenun
@harrisevo8 жыл бұрын
+mrbluenun Thanks for your comment. Funny, I think the skill comes from practice and learning from things that didn't turn out the way you planned. ; )
@RichardHeadGaming8 жыл бұрын
Nice mod.
@harrisevo8 жыл бұрын
+Richard Schmidtendorff Thanks Richard. Matt is still playing around with the length to see if they need to be shorter.
@scottniedentohl69268 жыл бұрын
Isn't ATF extremely flammable?
@mrbluenun8 жыл бұрын
Really nice job, which is complicated by the 5 or 6 people or more making the various parts to this vice, OK if like you this is the final grind but there’s a lot to think about, well done to you and all. I know in one of the last WIYB’s a person from the UK where I live was the lucky recipient of a box, or to be more correct many individual ones that made up the whole wonderful gift from knowledgeable Engineers and Part time and Professional Machinists. I hope they realise just how much work went into their many separate pieces! I have said it before, - I wonder if Keith realised what a many headed snake these WIYB would become, though it spreads the knowledgeable camaraderie of the many people kind enough to make the many parts of maybe even more finished machinists tools with some becoming absolutely indispensable and are for continued use?! Thanks for the completed item and for the upload of your work. Take care mrbluenun
@harrisevo8 жыл бұрын
+mrbluenun I couldn't agree more.
@BasementShopGuy9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Tim - thanks so much for being a part of the build!
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+BasementShopGuy Thanks Brad. I get sooo much knowledge and entertainment watching what you, Adam, Stan, Kieth, James and the other KZbin contributors do that I just wanted to give back in some small way. IMHO, your efforys organizing the WYIB builds really coalesced the community. I better appreciate the amount of time it takes to film and edit these videos, which is huge, so thanks again.
@Patroand9 жыл бұрын
you may try this oil www.mcmaster.com/#3202k1/=10f800h for your work.
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+Robert Patoine Robert good suggestion. Most of the oil quenching we do is for 1095 and since the parts are small, a large ammo can works pretty well ; ) Because the vice base was much larger than what we normally do, we had to improvise with a larger container (plastic 5 gal bucket).
@jmanatee9 жыл бұрын
Cool Video,... You should do more,...
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+jmanatee thanks for the encouragement
@DieselRamcharger9 жыл бұрын
Does that oven have a controlled atmosphere? I don't see how you stopped it from decarbing soaking that long….
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+Diesel Ramcharger Diesel - no controlled atmosphere for oil quenched steels. the longer soak time was to ensure that the entire part reached the critical temperature. We do heat treat air cooled metals that are foil wrapped to control oxygen during the process. Paper is added to the foil pack, so at high temps the paper burns consuming the oxygen.
@RichardHeadGaming9 жыл бұрын
Nice of you to take part in WIYB, and liked watching the process of the treatment.
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+Richard Schmidtendorff I've watched and learned a lot from Adam, Kieth and the other KZbin contributors. I wanted to give back in some small way
@shadowdog5009 жыл бұрын
I was watching the vise go together, and somehow missed this video until today. Looks like a neat process. I hope to see more knife making videos from you. Thanks, Chris
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+shadowdog500 Thanks
@WAVETUBE849 жыл бұрын
Great addendum to the machinist vice collaboration. I bet your electric meter was spinning on this one! You could calculate the "$ kilowatts pretty easily...
@jessefoulk9 жыл бұрын
I missed this part in the process for the WIYB vice. Came across it.
@ExtantFrodo29 жыл бұрын
Given the flames when quenching, I have two suggestions. Get or make a basket for the piece to fall into should you drop it or use a metal bucket. That piece contacting the sides of that plastic tub is a recipe for disaster especially when flames are present. Have a cover handy as well as an extinguisher in case the flames do no self-extinguish (Spontaneous decombustion)
@TheMetalButcher9 жыл бұрын
Can you not coat it in something to help prevent the oxide?
@MattOGormanSmith9 жыл бұрын
+justfakeit888 You've been watching Clickspring too? :) I doubt the vice body would fit in Clickspring's blueing tray, and it's getting ground all over after hardening.
@TheMetalButcher9 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes I have been watching clickspring. :o I realize it's going to be ground, but it seems like it would still be nicer to prevent the oxide in the first place.
@darronjknight9 жыл бұрын
+justfakeit888 it may be possible to use a flux type of compound, but other may not be the kind of stuff that you want to get onto the walls of your heat treat oven, so not worth the effort
@johnptc8 жыл бұрын
+justfakeit888 wrap the part in a piece of paper and the wrap in stainless steel heat treat foil. As the part heats the paper will consume any available oxygen when done remove foil :)
@TheMetalButcher8 жыл бұрын
I'll have to try that, sounds interesting.
@jerrylong3819 жыл бұрын
Would like to see some knife making videos from you guys. Just sayin
@jerrylong3819 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt &Tim, That's one nice oven! The air hardening steels are nice. I've precision ground a lot of D2, S7, A2 and 440C. D2 is a bear, but I would love have a knife made from it. Thanks for the video guys.
@axodal9 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. Very interesting and educational! Great videography as well! Just want to encourage you to make them longer and more detailed. We technical guys love details. LOL! Great work!
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+axodal Thanks much
@bcbloc029 жыл бұрын
I have done a lot of double and triple tempers but this is the 1st time I have ever seen a double quench done. What was the reason?
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+bcbloc02 Hey Brian. Yeah you're right, we never do double heat treats. That was recommended by Stan, so that's what we did. We routinely do two 2 hour tempers on all the knife blades. I'm no metallurgist, but according to one at work you can do that to differently harden parts, but not sure why that was needed here. As you know different materials have different specs. Without knowing the material, we just followed Stan's recommendations based on his experiments with a piece over the summer.
@AlexeiPolkhanov9 жыл бұрын
+harrisevo So you guys did not know exactly what type of steel these parts were made from? I remember watching a video where Adam was cutting a piece of another bigger piece of stock and he mentioned the source of it. Perhaps there was a way to trace down a data sheet for that steel.
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+Alexei Polkhanov Alexei all the steal for the vise came from Adam's shop. Adam said the piece had been around his family shop (certainly during his father's time and maybe his grandfathers time) and didn't know its origin. So no data sheet was available. Thanks for commenting
@pierresgarage26879 жыл бұрын
+bcbloc02 I agree with you Brian about the second hardening.... ???? To have more clue about the type of steel, there would have been possible to send multiple small samples of the steel and do some test at different temperatures, then, determine the needed temp for the needed hardness, there are soo many different of steel, lots of those steel have tempering temp way above the 400 F, more like 600 to 1100 to get 55 to 35 RC... Don't look like they test the hardness of their production... ;)
@bcbloc029 жыл бұрын
pierre beaudry Maybe Tom could have hit it with one of his hammers after they ground it to see how hard it was. LOL
@DougHanchard9 жыл бұрын
Home heat treat. woof, for that mount of time.... hate to see your electricity bill !!! *faint* Nice job!
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+Doug Hanchard It's 220v so its not that bad. Also it's very well insulated and efficient at holding a temp. 1500 degrees isn't too bad. Some steels are heat treated at over 1900 degrees
@DougHanchard9 жыл бұрын
+harrisevo How many watts do the heating elements put out? 220V keeps the wires cool, but damn, the kWh must have your meter spinning like crazy.
@cockedhat19 жыл бұрын
Liked the video. Thanks for making and sharing. Hope to see more of your shop work.
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Smart Thanks Anthony. My son Matt makes knifes and has a heat treat oven, so I volunteered to help with this project ( a noble effort). It's definitely different than we normally do, both in size and methodology. I wasn't sure about the two heat treat cycles, but that's what Stan recommended.
@Abom799 жыл бұрын
Good job on your first video. Was glad to see the process. Pretty cool watching you take my vise out of the box. 😆 thanks for sharing this Tim.
@harrisevo9 жыл бұрын
+Abom79 Adam thanks for the encouragement. I can't tell you how much I've learned watching your videos. I look forward to Sunday morning watching the latest with a cup of joe.