#whyHS2 | The death of HS2?
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@icarus_falling
@icarus_falling 22 сағат бұрын
Do they never say "can you dress smart casual?" Lol. Having heard you on wtyp the fit suits you. Even if news you is tame
@GarethDennisTV
@GarethDennisTV 20 сағат бұрын
@@icarus_falling there's no need to wear a shirt! humans listen to humans, not suits!
@icarus_falling
@icarus_falling 22 сағат бұрын
Couldnt have put a shirt or something on eh? Haha even wearing trousers? Id say its 50/50 your not. Also that presenter shut you down on the politics you got into
@GarethDennisTV
@GarethDennisTV 20 сағат бұрын
@@icarus_falling the whole interview was about politics, chief
@Steamtostay
@Steamtostay 2 күн бұрын
1) Re conversion of 1435mm to S=1505mm, does the same +70mm apply to all gauges, or is there some way to calculate or look it up if you know the rail weight only (ranging from 30 lb/yd to 70 kg/m), but not the profile? 2) Is it possible to have a canted swingnose K crossing in a turnout by having the V rotate relative to flat, instead of just moving horizontally? Or do turnouts still always need to be flat? 3) Local modern track is built at 4deg cant + 4deg cant deficiency, based on comparing radii and posted speed limits (no tilt). Freight trains over the same track appear to be signalled and limited to 4+1. Is that plausible? 4) I don't have room for any more mugs, but if I did, I'd be looking for E+D=... with k values for gauges other than 1435mm. Is that something you'd be open to, in theory?
@philipsudron
@philipsudron 4 күн бұрын
I imagine "give the rest of the project over to the Private Sector" to be a euphemism for: "get the Chinese to build it."
@MF-fg3cg
@MF-fg3cg 4 күн бұрын
Is the population of Ireland big enough to justify and be able to afford all this. what are the population sizes of all the terminal towns?
@GarethDennisTV
@GarethDennisTV 4 күн бұрын
@@MF-fg3cg yes. if the car flows are there, which they are, then rail is justified
@alexisdespland4939
@alexisdespland4939 5 күн бұрын
why are they no frieght trains connecting with the irsh ferries like you do for passengers. it would be an easy thing to do once hs2 and norther power house rail are done .the main route should be fanning out from a new yard near
@alexisdespland4939
@alexisdespland4939 5 күн бұрын
politacalt speaking scotland ireland is much more likely the any england -wales conection.
@alexisdespland4939
@alexisdespland4939 5 күн бұрын
how about specail event or holiday trains.if you have days where perticular regions are extremly bu like three or four times as busy as normal.
@CasualSnake_D2
@CasualSnake_D2 5 күн бұрын
Get well soon!
@CasualSnake_D2
@CasualSnake_D2 5 күн бұрын
does gasoline not change price depending on the time of day in the UK? here in Canada gas stations jack up the price during the day, then make it cheaper between 7pm and midnight
@UnwittingSweater
@UnwittingSweater 3 күн бұрын
Can't work out if you're joking? In the UK it changes day to day based on oil supply change prices but I think generally static per day. Or location, motorway stations are 10 plus percent more expensive.
@robincoleman1350
@robincoleman1350 6 күн бұрын
Why does it take way longer to construct a railway now than a 150 years ago?
@fndjfgsdk
@fndjfgsdk 6 күн бұрын
Cos we have to check for newts and Grandpa doesn't want his view spoiled
@1stdaybreaker707
@1stdaybreaker707 6 күн бұрын
Pretty much what fndjfgsdk said, NIMBYs and environmental regulations. There always have been such things, railways were diverted around the New Forest and had to appease rich land owners. There's just more of them now; with the addition that there is more stuff in the way, more existing buildings and infrastucture, and that they are built to a higher spec by workers that demand better hours and conditions.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 5 күн бұрын
@@fndjfgsdk The latter is far more prevalent in getting things stopped than the former. The last government made it negligibly easy to do it too. I could complain about something happening at the other end of the country and have it force a consultation. That was by design. They introduced those kind of laws to make it harder and effectively ban the building of onshore wind and solar farms.
@fndjfgsdk
@fndjfgsdk 5 күн бұрын
@@TalesOfWar Eh, they may have strengthened those laws in some ways but the basic tenets go all the way back to the T&CPA 1948, which has probably been the most disastrous piece of legislation in British History with how much progress it has prevented since it's inception.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 5 күн бұрын
@@fndjfgsdk You can change or remove laws. The fact is no government since seems to want to do it. Until now at least. This new lot look far more proactive when it comes to cutting through this kind of crap to get things built. Look at the plans for more housing for example. I hope it extends to improving our other infrastructure like rail as mentioned.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 6 күн бұрын
We've been trying to get a proper metro system in Manchester for decades, Gareth! Central government keeps saying nah, we're not paying. That's how we ended up with the trams in the first place! Hopefully with the new government we'll see some promising long term plans in this regard (and for other city regions) or they can let the regions do it themselves by giving more devoted powers, like the ability to raise capital like London can.
@TrystyKat
@TrystyKat 6 күн бұрын
Is disruption to mainline services from Euston reasonably foreseeable? Yes. Of course, yes. If overcrowding due to disruption is a reasonably foreseeable hazard, then NR is legally obligated to do something. Health and safety law is *very* clear on this topic. See: ALARP and SFAIRP.
@105rgh
@105rgh 8 күн бұрын
On new housing (24mins), there's a proposed new garden village near us - 6k houses by 2050 ("Meecebrook"). A new rail station is planned! Unfortunately, since it's on the Stafford-Crewe line, the 2022 Pre-Viability study does stress the need for HS2 to get shot of ICE trains on that route. As I have pointed out to councillors and MPs, that's a big nope right now and the government position on HS2 is in direct opposition to the council's and central Govt policy. No chance of services stopping there if we have Brum-Glasgow trains pounding through (in the same way they also can't run services to Norton Bridge or Barlaston).
@ThomasGray-g9e
@ThomasGray-g9e 9 күн бұрын
thinking about things we did get an episode about no more voyagers but it was 222
@Gideonsmythe
@Gideonsmythe 10 күн бұрын
I'm not an Employment Lawyer (my bank account wishes I was) but do work on Employment Tribunal cases with lawyers for an insurance company. You don't need to acknowledge this and I appreciate you can't discuss issues surrounding the termination of your contract. However, I just wanted to say that, based on all of the information I've seen, you have a slam-dunk case for unfair dismissal. It is worth talking to a lawyer and, you being very clever, I assume you already have. #ReinstateGareth
@GarethDennisTV
@GarethDennisTV 9 күн бұрын
@@Gideonsmythe I worked at Systra for less than two years I'm afraid! So unfair doesn't work!
@TrystyKat
@TrystyKat 6 күн бұрын
@@GarethDennisTV Tortuous interference might fly
@malcolmmoore6848
@malcolmmoore6848 10 күн бұрын
While I agree with most of what you have said, I think that in the early CE 1840s the length of the rail cars got longer and this was the prime reason why the wheels (on fixed axles) jammed in the curved rails. Bogies were a late invention in the mid CE 1860s and these swivelling bogies effectively negated the need for the tracks being marginally widened. In practice I would think that only one (of Stevenson’s) rail would have been “repositioned” by 0.5” - and not have two rails repositioned by 0.25” as that is at least twice as much work for the same outcome. Your picture of the close-up of Brunel’s rail (gauge) shows a major flaw in that the rail structure is an upside-down shallow “U” with flanges and the “strength” is in the longitudinal under-rail sleepers - not in the vertical ("web") of the rail itself (as per Stephenson’s rail structure)! Brunel’s 7’ 0” gauge (for 8’ 0” width rail cars) would have been far more stable than Stephenson’s 4’ 8.5” gauge (for 8’ 0” width rails cars) and this I am very sure was a very sore sticking point (and Stephenson was rapidly climbing the elite English tree - and was being urged / moved / promoted to being a member of the UK Parliament). My understanding of this elite situation was that if Brunel’s 7’ 0.25” gauge became “standard” then Stephenson had a lot of social and political and engineering esteem to lose. Although there may have been far more of Stephenson’s rail gauge in England the private rail operators certainly did not want to totally “re-engineer” their rail networks (and carts / engines) to the far more stable Brunel “Broad” gauge as these entrepreneurs were in there for profits - profits and more profits!!! They would have very rapidly combined and “pushed” the “UK Standard Rail Gauge” Act (CE 1846) though "like a plate of chocolate at a kiddies party"!. Since the CE 1930s most passenger trains are now 3040 mm (10’ 0”) in rail car width - and it would make a heck of a lot of engineering sense to move to a new standard “Wide” rail gauge of 8’ 4” (2540 mm) - especially for fast trains!
@alexisdespland4939
@alexisdespland4939 11 күн бұрын
do the salespeople who misold the ticket that got a passenger into trouble getin trouble too.
@GustavSvard
@GustavSvard 12 күн бұрын
England Ticket! and Wales Ticket, and Scotland Ticket. Or everywhere but London -ticket? £49 for everything but expresses, per month. Maybe as a fare cap per month using a national travel card? The system should be simple to understand, simple to use, and priced to encourage use. And, obviously, end all expansions of motorways, put the money into expanding capacity on the rails and the bike lanes. (and HS2+3+... are primarily capacity projects even if they go fast).
@Dogbertious
@Dogbertious 12 күн бұрын
It feels mad that the system allows you to buy a ticket (which says "No restrictions!") through an official platform using a specific discount and the law appears to be on the side of rail companies prosecuting people for breaching a restriction which they actively didn't apply.
@glitterflutterby
@glitterflutterby 12 күн бұрын
I book people train tickets at work all the time and I didn't know about the minimum fare. Yikes. I hope none of my clients are languishing in the jail. :/
@aaronsmith9209
@aaronsmith9209 12 күн бұрын
I don't get why it's so hard to make the passenger just pay the difference on the spot, the rest of it is so unnecessary.
@trainworms
@trainworms 12 күн бұрын
watching this because I have an idea for a new model project a point on "historical liveries" steal the colour and make something new like gwr did don't try and put a square peg in a round hole.
@robertnicholson2205
@robertnicholson2205 12 күн бұрын
So correctly Northern went back through all the tickets that he applied a discount that he was not entitled to and charged him for a new ticket... And you had a moan about that.... Ultimately most people don't read terms and conditions but thats at their own risk. These detail important key points of their railcard. You can't be upset when you fall foul of them because you couldn't be bothered to read them. Tickets are sold on good faith online.. It's your responsibility to ensure that your railcard is in date for your trip if you have applied it. You wouldn't turn up to an airport not checking your passport and then kick off when you find that it's out of date and you can't travel. You have taken a discount for a ticket you are not entitled to..... Whether the railcard is 1 day or 100 days out of date... Its expired so you can't use it... It's very simple. Those people who move the time to ensure that they get a discount.. That's intent to evade the correct fare.... You are making steps to ensure you get around the restrictions and get a discounted ticket..... Revenue staff do not make things up.. They deal with what they see....and nobody likes to be caught out... Take responsibility for your actions You talk about honest mistakes... But how is a revenue officer on the ground meant to have the time to look into that... They don't so there is the explanation and appeals process for this.. And you will probably find that it's not their first time... Or even their second or third...(back to my first point involving his friend).
@thomasdillon6001
@thomasdillon6001 12 күн бұрын
Absent good evidence to the contrary, it should be assumed that any ticketing error is an honest mistake. The customer should simply be asked to pay the difference, perhaps with a modest penalty where appropriate. Private prosecution for an error of less than £2 is utterly stupid and profoundly counterproductive. Giving passengers the benefit of the doubt is basic customer service, which protects the railway's reputation. Frankly there would be few customers left were they all to be prosecuted for every minor mistake. Most operators take a far more sensible approach, and in doing so successfully avoid the sort of terrible publicity faced by Northern in this instance.
@GarethDennisTV
@GarethDennisTV 12 күн бұрын
@@robertnicholson2205 did you even watch the episode? you are the reply guy we talked about
@Adsy125
@Adsy125 12 күн бұрын
The problem with the contract law angle Gareth, is that they're not prosecuting under contract law. While I think you're right they wouldn't win a Regulation of Railways act prosecution because of the intent clause, they would win a Byelaw offence because it's strict liability. Contract law doesn't come into it :⁠-⁠(
@GarethDennisTV
@GarethDennisTV 12 күн бұрын
@@Adsy125 goddamn
@thomasdillon6001
@thomasdillon6001 12 күн бұрын
Agree with putting a station in Glasgow East of High Street, potentially called Glasgow Cross. This would link up with an improved suburban/metro network based on Glasgow Crossrail/City Union Line.
@lon1117
@lon1117 13 күн бұрын
It's not just old laws, ROGS is also full of male pronouns.
@lon1117
@lon1117 13 күн бұрын
The most annoying part is that you give them your info, they sell you the tickets and then tell you that you have the wrong one. Then they take no responsibility for it. But the worst point is that it puts people off using the railway, which is a problem in itself.
@pedromorgan99
@pedromorgan99 13 күн бұрын
Gareth and GreenSignals on same issue.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWKrgnqjh5dkatk
@Theoddert
@Theoddert 13 күн бұрын
I got caught out by the minimum fair rule about 4 times before I realised what was happening. In each circumstance I was under time pressure so on both the Scotrail app and at a ticket machine I would see the £12 fair, wonder what the hell was going on, but have no choice becuase I had to run to the train. I made a complaint to scotrail one of the times and was given an appology, a one-time exemption, a refund equalling the difference, but nobody told me what I was charged for! I kept emailing but got no explication. Why the machine / app can't just come up with a little banner saying "sorry, railcards are not applicable for this type of journey, see website for details" and then charge the standard fair is absurd to me
@Whiskey2shots
@Whiskey2shots 13 күн бұрын
HS2 should be used as an opportunity to remove all complexity in ticketing. Ostensibly the ticketing is meant to manage demand, increasing the number of trains should remove any need for this.
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 13 күн бұрын
So THIS is what you got fired for? Man, no sex, or arson, or actionable threats? Dissapointing.
@pedromorgan99
@pedromorgan99 13 күн бұрын
lets crowdfund a lawsuit against Northen/Penalty Services ;-)
@ambrosenuk
@ambrosenuk 13 күн бұрын
Does the repeated disclaimer on the Northern Fines and Penalties webpage that says “Please do not contact Penalty Services Ltd if you do not have a Penalty Fares Notice” suggest that Northern's contract with Penalty Services Ltd have an agreement with Penalty Services Ltd where Northern pay them a fee per ticket query processed? Obviously I'm not suggesting anyone should misuse this. I can't find FoI information about their interactions with this company. I'm intrigued to see what's being skimmed off by that company.
@procrastination_productions
@procrastination_productions 13 күн бұрын
Northern Ticketing is so messy. I live in Normanton, and sometimes travel on train into South Yorkshire. For some reason, the standard fare is £8-11 between Barnsley & Chapeltown, but only £5-6 past that point, into Meadowhall & Sheffield.
@GarethDennisTV
@GarethDennisTV 12 күн бұрын
@@procrastination_productions PTEs!
@davidwright7193
@davidwright7193 13 күн бұрын
To give an example of how screwed up the system currently is last summer (2023) I bought a tickets for 2 adults and a child from London to Gatwick and the machine gave me 3 adult tickets because it was cheaper to use the 3 person group discount ticket than buy the standard ticket even with a family rail card. The whole ticketing system has been broken by people who seem to see rail travel as a some how equivalent to air travel rather than as a faster and more comfortable car.
@philwoodward4297
@philwoodward4297 13 күн бұрын
In and around London we have Contactless, but it's not always the cheapest option. It's not cheapest if you have a Railcard (which everyone can - Londoners who use the train more than a few times a year who don't have a Network Railcard should get one). It's true you can get Railcard discounts on Oyster, but Oyster is only valid in a much smaller area than Contactless. For journeys that go into that wider area around London, tickets are still cheaper for Railcard holders. Also, you can't apply a Network Railcard discount to Oyster. It normally isn't cheapest if you are connecting with a long-distance train in central London (it is generally better to get a through ticket to your destination). There are also *a lot* of cases where tickets are simply cheaper than the contactless fare even for non-Railcard holders (especially for day return trips coming from outside zones 1-6). People use Contactless believing it will give them the cheapest fare they're allowed to have, but they're usually overpaying. I live in zone 6 - if I want to do a simple thing like make a return journey to Leicester Square, it is cheaper to pay over-distance and buy a paper ticket from the next station along the line (outside zones 1-6) to Zones 1-4, than it is to use Contactless. Arguably what Contactless has done in the London area is created a parallel fare structure which adds an extra layer of complexity onto the system. It doesn't replace tickets. You still need tickets for people travelling to or from outside the Contactless area, for people who want to break their journey, for foreign visitors who don't have a credit or debit card compatible with the system, and for people who have a season ticket, Freedom pass or Travelcard and want to pay the extension fare without having to physically get off the train and tap in or out at whichever station is at the zone boundary.
@camjkerman
@camjkerman 13 күн бұрын
Jack: I'm not a lawyer I'm not going to make assertions Gareth: *I am*. Seriously though I love the energy around this issue, as a Londoner with a 16-25, every time I've gotten my railcard put on an oyster card the process involves getting a staff member, who will put in the card number and expiry date, once the expiry date comes, my discount will be removed from my oyster card on touch-in. Every time I use National Rail services I triple check that my railcard is definitely with me and the expiration date has definitely not changed because I don't have that assurance that the Oyster system provides. Sometimes I even worry that because I've got a 3 year card that lives in my card wallet which is constantly going in and out of my pocket, the condition of my railcard would earn a sneer from staff in this sort of way.
@lawrencejob
@lawrencejob 13 күн бұрын
What is the deal with the scammy "rebate" service you get tricked into signing up to when you buy a railcard? It's the sketchiest thing I've seen from a government service in my life...
@JamesBrown-zu8iv
@JamesBrown-zu8iv 13 күн бұрын
Join the club. From Britain and America. Just like a Daily Dose of Dismal Disney. Now; a Daily Dose of Dismal UK Rail Fares + Price Tickets.
@gossebootsma2798
@gossebootsma2798 13 күн бұрын
another lovely thing is when you try to buy a ticket, and both the website and the ticket office refuse to sell you a ticket, and often without any explanation why!
@thomasgray4188
@thomasgray4188 13 күн бұрын
I've got on so many trains in the south-west with no ticket at all and always been given the benefit of doubt even turned up at barriers with nothing multiple times because I couldn't find the guard. I've seen lots of people in the same position as me when the tickets machine broke too. people could be in a rush or unwell or like me have some sort of mental condition (adhd) and the railway shop be as much for all of us as those that are more put together. trains should be for everyone.
@Carlos-im3hn
@Carlos-im3hn 13 күн бұрын
Excellent show about a dismal topic ! ( someone WILL make it better )
@DADeathinacan
@DADeathinacan 13 күн бұрын
So, wait, a railcard is a thing to show that you are eligable for a discount that you need to pay for? And that only works some times? Even before getting into the criminal penalties for the screwey nonsense, what the flying frig is this nonsense
@DADeathinacan
@DADeathinacan 13 күн бұрын
On the frontline staff/train crew/conductors/whatever yall call the job over there, do they even have the ability to ingnore this nonsense once a ticket is scanned(and if its not, sorry, it seemed like that was implied)? I know the app I need to use to do a very similar task could easily make that sorta entry manditory. Also, as someone working under a long-expired contract, I would love to be in a situation like "nah, we just dont work sundays", between 6-out-of-7 day on-call jobs and being force assigned that sorta thing... The concept of different pricing throughout the day is also throwing me on something of a loop for anything where you dont buy a ticket for a specific train, and only that train.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 13 күн бұрын
Another fun aspect of a rail card is It's one of those things that you need to be more well off to afford, before you can benefit from it. Those who would actually benefit from the discounts are often unable to afford such things. So yet again it's a way for the richer to save money while the poorer must just carry on paying more. Kind of how us plebs pay tax but the ultra wealthy pay zero. Or at least far, far, far less than they should relative to their income.
@tantive4
@tantive4 13 күн бұрын
​@@TalesOfWar It is very Vimes' boots
@lawrencejob
@lawrencejob 13 күн бұрын
If ticketing brings in £2bn/yr - if you subtract ticket retail, enforcement, ticket barriers, complexity and the possible.economic value of scrapping tickets, would it really actually cost anything to make all rail free? Maybe the country would even profit? Risky experiment? (Note - I didn't finish the video when I started typing this)
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 13 күн бұрын
Ticketing brings in £9.2bn, Government subsidy/funding is £11.9bn, other income (fares on private owned rail lines, freight, station retail) brings in £1.5bn. So 40.7% of the funding to provide rail services comes from the farebox and would need replacing with tax rises of approx. £273 on every working age person. I doubt the average non-season ticket holder is currently spending that much each year.
@thesenamesaretaken
@thesenamesaretaken 13 күн бұрын
​@@watcherzero5256the above comment was asking what the cost of implementing and enforcing tickets is, which you completely ignored. I doubt it's anywhere close to £9bn but still that response is not in good faith. (Just did a quick calculation and my county council spends £250 per working adult on local roads that I don't drive on, so it's horses for courses really)
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 13 күн бұрын
@@thesenamesaretaken The question was asking if subtracting the cost of ticketing would abolishing ticketing be a net profit, would it cost anything to make all rail free? I replied with the annual farebox revenue and how much it would cost per capita to replace that revenue. As to the cost of administering ticketing your looking at about 5% of revenue (if you maintain the same number of customer facing staff redeployed into other roles) and an additional 2% from transaction fees on payments, so you would save about 7% of the farebox overall.
@lawrencejob
@lawrencejob 12 күн бұрын
@@watcherzero5256 aha, but tax isn’t distributed evenly on all working age people. It would be disproportionately funded by higher earners. Unlike now, where rail tickets are really painful for low earners, capping social mobility in some cases. You’re right about the £10bn I’m not sure what happened in my mind - I confused it with pre-pandemic season ticket revenue. Ultimately every £1 of ticket price is just a strange, convoluted tax, more so after nationalisation. I still would love to see an economist investigate how much can be saved by scrapping it (I suspect it’s in the £bn) and how much the economy would benefit from scrapping it. It might be a radical investment that brings substantially more growth than it costs. I want to say to my grandkids “back in my day we had to buy silly paper things with cryptic rules to be allowed on trains”
@TheBananaLoverorignal
@TheBananaLoverorignal 13 күн бұрын
Second
@cameronallan5624
@cameronallan5624 13 күн бұрын
FIRST!!
@Theoddert
@Theoddert 14 күн бұрын
"don't zoom in on me" *viewers simultaneously immediately zoom in on Little Face*😂
@NigelHarris-gj4yy
@NigelHarris-gj4yy 14 күн бұрын
Gareth how about stopping and accelerating trains with equations? Not just suvat, but braked weight percentage, and conservation of energy.
@GarethDennisTV
@GarethDennisTV 14 күн бұрын
@@NigelHarris-gj4yy By all means! Need to start with longitudinal rail forces first though...
@raphaelnikolaus0486
@raphaelnikolaus0486 14 күн бұрын
Duck Rails - Duck Tales ;)
@raphaelnikolaus0486
@raphaelnikolaus0486 14 күн бұрын
We could also go for a Donkey and call ourselves Dorky Donkeys