Did you realise the opening ceremony involved normalising paedophilia as drag queens danced with young children? The church needs to make a strong stand against such shows of debauchery and not let them off the hook when they give half hearted apologies ( when their funding is withdrawn).

Cause if I want it all without you involved then it's all for nothing

Some well thought and wise, Biblical responses. Thanks

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I am of Jewish and Arab descent and a retired Aerospace Engineer..The 66th Parallel in Navigation Nautical is Jerusalem or MT Moriah 31 Longitude by 35 Latitude..There are 66 books from Gensis to Revelations each Book COINCIDES with the 66 Chapters in ISAIAH EX.. Isaiah 1 is about Mans FAilure so is Gensis 1, Isaiah 39 is about Isarel being Barron for 400 yrs so is Malachi book 39 .. Matthew Book 40 is about the GOOD news has Come so is (( Isaiah 40 )) Every Mountain shall be made low every valley high PREPARE YE the WAY OF THE LORD..book 66 REVELATIONS GOD takes OVER so is ISAIAH 66 God TAKES OVER EZEKIEL 44 vs 1-4 Scares me Fulled in Matthews 21 JESUS enters the Temple Through The EAST GATE....... NO PEACE as King JEHU said 2 KINGS 9 vs 22 we have Broken GODS COVENANT

I really want to come to this Leadership conference as a pastor, who will really need the training...but am in Africa west Africa..and I dont know how to get an invitation for my travel visa....if there is a way....please response

Would be interested to hear how the truth of "regeneration" mentioned in Scripture (which i take to mean inward change ,freedom from certain sins and habits, Christ living within by the Holy Spirit, new birth, gradual growth of spiritual fruit, change of nature within, not perfect but progressing) and how this relates to justification

As a final year Theology student and non-denominational Christian, I can confirm that ANYONE can do theology, as it's not a skill, more a ticksheet of perennial questions. But it IS too academic in my experience and more than it should be. In my non-denominational circles (and often in my family), I get a rather anti-intellectualist impression of people. My mother is qualified to teach RS but she hated her theology degree at Westhill College UoB, as she thought her lecturers did a bad job. Her eldest brother, upon my explanation of my Greek New Testament, once asked me, "So are you doing all the theology so that none of us have to?"...

Another useful, information rich conversation, thank you. Also relieved to know that I am not the only one who struggles with recalling Bible verses off the cuff. God bless all the work Christians in these organisations do to His glory.

You’re mighty Lord god Jesus Christ is so soooo powerful.praying for overflowing materialistic possessions be filled. The Indian nuns and priests are experts ( few) if you abuse that lord and not obey him the individual is destroyed beyond imagination and then immediate family members possessions are destroyed. Praying in the name of your Lord Jesus Christ humans will be human. My love and peace to all.

Thank you, very helpful, God bless you

Mike winger (KZbin) has a very comprehensive and detailed biblical analysis of women in ministry

Were it not for their felicity, the Puritans would be rolling in their graves at the ahistorical and myopic dismissal of the Sabbath as mere legalism. The Westminster Confession and the 1689 speak into this issue far better than. Elders just need to man up and tell dads to get their household in order- Sunday is for church, not sport. That’s it.

When your in a mono cultural church I can see how it will be easy to be triggered. I get that it can almost seem like the solution is to "just preach the Gospel...why talk about race stuff". However, when seeking to love people different from you, talka like these are empowering for seeing ALL of someone God has made loving people well.

I’m still just as confused after I listened to this podcast then before. Surely our prayers should be directed to the defeat of Harmas and all other groups that use terror to get what they want. And the protection of the innocent. “Let justice roll down like a river”

It is good that Joseph at IMJ reminds us of the great commission to make disciples of Jews and Gentiles. But we cannot as believers ignore the injustice of the attacks on Israel and Jewish people. Silence (and cowardice) as practised by the church at present is wrong. We of all people should stand up for Israel, when they are being attacked unfairly and Hamas' evil actions being excused.

Is it even Biblical to have children's ministry?

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Ita part of bibilival.prophecy

So whst is the gospel ? How are we safed ?

You dint know it's a plandemic ? Fools

No where in able is illegal immigration ebcourageex least of all from natinna who hate christians . Utter nonsense. These pastors are v naive

Thanks for sharing this. I must confess that I am bewildered by the format of this session, which was akin a "trial in absentia" of Vandrunen and his views -- conducted in a rather uncharitable manner. Perhaps "disagreeing agreeably" only applies if you disagree with brothers within the FIEC? Moreover, the panelists do not seem to have read Vandrunen carefully. These points aside, I wonder if it would have been more constructive if the panelists had put forward their own proposals for Christian cultural engagement, and engaged one another, rather than use Vandrunen as a scapegoat/launchpad for discussion. Judging by what was said at the session, it does not seem like the FIEC was too keen on Vandrunen's views anyway (nor was his book made available for sale at the conference), so why bring him in?

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Israel is the grand villain here, and God is all knowing of every evil deed committed. The bible is just the works of anonymous authors quoting Jesus and writing whatever they want into it of their opinion. Unfortunately, you don't have the orginal to compare, and the current is riddled with self contradicting verses and ambiguous ideas. Jesus is just a messenger nothing more nothing less.

It's easier to pretend that Gaza is just images on a tv screen and not real people. But as one on my favorite Jews, Bob Dylan, wrote: Like Louise always says "You can't look at much can you man"? And she herself prepares for him And Madona still has not showed The fiddler now steps to the road He writes "everthing's been returned which is owed On the back of the fish truck which loads As my conscience explodes.

Jesus told you to support killing 30000 people???

This is a topic that needs a lot more attention because it’s a serious issue with churches not being welcome to autistic people

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You are right that illegal migration is a relatively small number compared to legal migration, but you are wrong to just consider migration in a silo. The country works as a complex system of systems...large flows of people prepared to work for low wages has a drag on wage increases for everyone not in a sheltered profession, the demand for migrant labour is also in part driven by the drop in work ethic of people already here which in itself is sustained by the broad dragnet of the welfare system. Surely the starting point is the theology of work, then the right response to people who refuse to work, to the role of psychologists in deeming so many people too sick to work and the default role as psychologists as the priest for non-believers and the growing socialist view that work is bad and to be avoided in contrast to the Christian view that work is good and an avenue for blessing. Once you have a right view on work, then you can understand how many people are required to fill the roles available year to year, which people you can afford to become permanent without lowering living standards for all through higher taxation and depressed wage growth and which people will be here just for a temporary stay as expat workers. Resolving those issues then reduces some of the pull factors of illegal migration and leaves the question of what is the function of nations and borders. Some would say there should be no borders, others would say the opposite. What is the Christian obligation in respect of people who enter a country illegally...is the response affected by their status as either a believer or a non-believer? The response preferred by some has moved from general care akin to common grace to something entirely more lavish and inequitable for one entering illegally to the point that being law abiding would appear to pay no reward. And then there is the general question of what if anything the church might do in addition to government efforts and the conundrum of the church acting to assuage middleclass Christian handwringing vs exploitation of mercy ministries by non-believers - the classic food bank situation.

Great episode, absolutely enjoyed it

I had exactly the same with reading Moby Dick.

Amen! It is ALL about JESUS! Not programs, not witty comebacks, not adequate parking; it is Jesus, simply Jesus!

Amen to all of this! Thank you for raising awareness of this challenge for churches

A Gospel Coalition UK sounds like an encouraging idea.

I give thanks for the Youth Workers who poured their lives into me. Steve and Angie Campbell worked hard with a group of kids from Birkenhead and taught us the Word. I also give thanks for Trev Pierce and Trev Archer.

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Could you do a follow-up session to this looking at what justice and the justice of God actually mean, i.e. provide a definition of justice? When it comes to giving definitions of words that we attribute to God, I think it’s important to be able to give a definition of the word without making reference to God (even though God is the source of the thing we are talking about) because otherwise we don’t actually communicate anything when say that thing about God, i.e. if we can’t say what justice means without reference to God, the sentence “God is just” becomes meaningless because it is essentially just saying God is God but doesn’t actually tell us anything about God at all. Taking the example of truth, if we tell a child that God is truthful, and the child then asks what truthful means, we don’t actually answer the question if we just say “truthful is what God is.” Instead we would need to say that we are being truthful when what we say with our words is the same as what has actually happened, e.g. “Imagine if your brother kicked the football over the fence and I asked him if he had done that. If he tells me has done it he is being truthful. If he tells me he has not done it, he is not being truthful, he is lying. God is always truthful. Everything that he says is going to happen will actually happen.” By being able to define truthful without reference to God, the sentence “God is truthful” now actually means something whereas before it was meaningless. In time, you will want to explain to the child that God is actually the foundation of all truthfulness and is truth himself because he doesn’t just describe reality but creates it; but to talk about God being truthful at all you have to start by defining truth without reference to God. So, how would you do this with justice? What is the definition of justice? Is the starting point to say that justice happens when those who have done bad things are punished and those who have done good things are rewarded? If not, where would you start?

Romans 3:26 seems to be conclusive in settling the debate between whether God could have chosen to save by other means or whether the cross became necessary following (in order of logic not of time) God's choice to save people. "It was to show his righteousness/justice at the present time, so that he might be just and also the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus." The clear implication of this verse that God cannot justify the ungodly and also be just without Christ's propitiatory sacrifice bearing the sins of all who will trust in him.

Thank you for putting this together and publishing it. It's great to listen to and easy to follow.

Is it important to say that although justice is intrinsic to the nature of God, God's wrath is not intrinsic to his nature? From Confessing The Impassible God "Second, our hell-deserving sin no more stirs up an emotional change in God than our conversion wins over his love. And yet, this is precisely the implication if we were to say that wrath is proper to God, for wrath is a relative response to sin. While God is love, even apart from the existence of any creature, wrath presupposes the presence of sin. Where there is no sin, there is no wrath. Are we to presume that, of all things, the creature's sin has the ability to bring about a change in God? Elihu addressed this very presupposition which appears to lie behind much of Job's complaint, saying: [Y]ou ask, 'What advantage have I? How am I better off than if I had sinned?' 4 I will answer you and your friends with you. Look at the heavens, and see: and behold the clouds, which are higher than you. If you have sinned, what do you accomplish against him? And if your transgressions are multiplied, what do you do to him? (Job 35:3-6, ESV) Job's complaint all along was that he was righteous and did nothing to deserve his suffering, and yet he was suffering as though he had sinned. Therefore, he said, "What difference does it make whether I sin or not?" Elihu is quick to point out that while his sin would effect no change in God, emotionally or otherwise, it would effect a most terrible change upon Job. Thus Elihu's conclusion in verse 8, Your wickedness affects a man such as you." Although the language of wrath and anger would seem to imply an emotional and dispositional change in God, this is not necessarily the case. Someone may say, "Last year I was taller than my son, but this year I am shorter than he is." Although the expression seems to imply that the father's height had changed, it is possible that, while the father's height remained the same, his son outgrew him. In that case, it would be the son who has changed relative to his father; he has a different relation to his father than he had before. In the same way, when God's anger is said to be kindled, it ultimately points to a change that has taken place in the sinner relative to God; it is the sinner who bears a different relation to God than he had before. Calvin is surely correct when, in response to this objection, he concludes, "Expressions of this sort have been accommodated to our capacity that we may better understand how miserable and ruinous our condition is apart from Christ." Third, as Calvin has just pointed out, the wrath of God needs to be understood anthropopathically, or after the manner of men. Defining anger as "a certain commotion or perturbation," Zanchi is representative of classical theism in general and the Reformed tradition in particular when he concludes that "[God] cannot be moved, but is inalterable and immutable."32 His conclusion is not arbitrary; rather, he avers that God cannot be so moved on the basis of the analogy of faith, with a firm commitment to what Scripture teaches about the immutability of God. "Yet," he continues, it is necessary we attribute anger to God... in that sense in which the scriptures attribute it to him.... I say in the same sense in which the scriptures attribute it to God, because the scriptures useth many kinds of speeches of God, which properly agree not: but according to man's capacity, and improperly. How then does the Scripture attribute anger to God? If not formally and properly, anger must be in God figuratively and improperly. Zanchi mentions three things that anger and wrath signify in the Scripture. First, "it signified a certain, and with all a most just will of God, to revenge or punish injuries done to himself or to his Church," citing John 3:36 and Romans 1:18. Second, "it signifieth the threatening of punishments," citing Psalm 6:1, etc. Lastly, "the word anger, signifieth the effects thereof, or the punishments and revengements of injuries," citing Romans 2:5.34 We may take notice of two things. In the first place, wrath is not attributed to God in the same way love and justice are attributed to God. Wrath is not attributed to God properly or formally, but improperly, or figuratively. There is no form of emotion in God which corresponds to the form of human anger or wrath. In the second place, the foregoing conclusion in no way empties divine wrath of its meaning, but rather explains it in a way that is consistent with what the Scripture reveals about his immutability, love, simplicity, etc. While the form of wrath and anger are not in God, that which wrath and anger figuratively signify must be attributed to him. As Gouge points out: His justice, power, prudence, truth, and other like attributes, stir him up thus to maintain the glory of them. Otherwise his wrath, his grief, and other like passions (to speak of God, ἀνθρωποπαθῶς, after the manner of man) would be little regarded, nay, altogether [slighted]. His wrath is not something to be regarded lightly as an empty concept, for although it does not tell us what God is, it does tell us what he is like in his works ad extra, when he executes his revenging justice. It signifies his inscrutable and unchanging justice and power that, as it were, so terribly cause him "thus to maintain" the love of his own honor. This is of no small consequence to his creatures. As Elihu said to Job, our sin produces no change in God, but it most certainly affects us and the nature of our relationship to his immutable justice. The lack of emotional perturbation in God in no way diminishes the fearful reality of his judgments for those who experience them or diminishes the intention of such texts, which is to warn and to persuade. When the effects or execution of God's revenging justice are described from the standpoint of the creatures who experience them, he describes himself as though he were a man of war pouring out the fury of his wrath, only much worse. What then of God's love towards his elect while they are still children of wrath, prior to their conversion? In addition to making a distinction between God's love toward us and God's love in us, there is a sense in which we must also affirm that God's wrath abides on the elect (John 3:36), both before the cross and before conversion. Prior to the cross, his just and immutable will to revenge and punish their sins had not yet been historically accomplished for them, and prior to conversion, the work of Christ's propitiation still needs to be personally applied to them. In either case, there is a sense in which the justice of God was still pleading its case against them, although he had decreed from eternity to uphold the honor of his justice toward them at the cross by means of the surety (Heb. 7:22). God's love toward the elect is as eternal as his love for Christ, though they may neither know nor feel it as of yet."

That's powerful quote from John Bunyan. Do you have a citation for it? I've searched for it electronically in what is meant to be Bunyan's Complete works but I couldn't find it. I saw something indicating it might be in a collection of things he said in other people's presence later in life. EDIT: I've found it now in the Complete Works book. It's under a heading called MR. JOHN BUNYAN'S DYING SAYINGS. OF SIN. in a footnotes' section.

Hi, is this going to be available as a podcast as well as on KZbin?

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