I’d definitely recommend it! It was a very easy conversion! Chainline is great and no need for a shift sensor 😎

Totally agree 👍

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Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the question! I have used shift sensors on my BBS builds as they have a lead for the sensor and it definitely smooths out the shifts. The TSDZ2B builds I have done have not required a shift sensor and don’t have a wire lead for it. I can definitely say there’s a difference with the TSDZ8 motor and it has a lead from the controller for the shift sensor. I have run it with and without the sensor plugged in and much prefer it with the sensor working. The shift sensor is the same one that Bafang bbs motors use. Hope this helps! Reach out if you have any other questions.

I was nervous at first, but it gets easier once you learn how and do a few. Luke Lorusso has some good videos about flashing the OSF (emmebrusa)

Thank you for watching my videos! We are blessed to live in a beautiful place with lots of places to ride and enjoy 😊 We ride around Wilhelm a lot!! We live about 5 minutes away! I have never used throttle only when riding around the lake. I believe it would make it, but not sure 🤔 The TSDZ8 is a torque sensor motor and the throttle is more less an on/off switch. The BBS Bafang motors are much better for that purpose as they have a much better throttle function. I typically get my batteries from UPP on Amazon. The video of the Taz 3 has a g56 battery from AliExpress which is 14 ah. This is a slimmer battery to fit in that frame. I appreciate your interest! I’ll have more videos coming up as I get time 🤓

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I’m hoping to make some videos in the future about the building process. Thanks for the suggestion!

Thanks for your comment! I always have fun putting these bikes together 🤓

Sounds like a great idea! I need to do a Ridge conversion 🤓

there is a specific tool: square tapered bottom bracket tool. there is a bolt you undue and screw in the tool. gives you mechanical leverage to get it off. can't do it without the tool and they are cheep

Around 28-30 mph for both. Could be higher with a gearing change.

I do all my own work!

@@MRJohnson01 how much for this exact build ?

Hello, Yes, Daniel’s 1.4 firmware. I don’t use brake cut offs. The bike is equipped with a throttle. I have it set to stop as soon as I stop pedaling. I appreciate you watching my video!! Trying to get more out as I get time.

Hello, I haven’t had any problems with my TSDZ8. The crank arm needed tightened once after I installed it. The latest software update has been better. Being a torque sensor motor I think you would like it. I wouldn’t be afraid to check out the TOSEVEN motors as well.

Thanks for the question! I favor a torque sensor motor. With the BBS02b motor you have cadence sensing. The Bafang motor has a ton of aftermarket support and parts if needed. The BBS02 is very reliable and you will enjoy it for your first build. I would also consider the TSDZ2B with OSF. I currently have 2 of them and they are fun and very natural feeling. If you do the research you can buy a 48 volt TSDZ2B and install the OSF with your PC. There is so many options out there! For raw power and reliability you could go with the BBSHD. Honestly overall right now the TSDZ2B with OSF is my go to motor. It’s a fun to ride and lightweight torque sensor motor and there’s good parts availability. If they get the programming right and make parts available for the TSDZ8 then I would definitely recommend it.

Hello Jason, I don’t mind you using my video for your website. I just don’t want to get into trouble with KZbin for the music.

Thank you for your kind words! I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. I love the hobby and will have more videos in the future.

I don’t have any experience with the Bosch CX but I think this TSDZ8 would be much more powerful! Mine is paired with a 52 volt battery. Based on what I have heard about the CX is that it might be better for Offroad technical trails.

@@MRJohnson01 Bosch cx have about 840w on peak,but what separates it from others is how much power it gives the rider at high cadence,so in practice its difficult to beat a Bosch cx uphill with the Bafang bbs 02

​@@wrosslandwr8032just use the throttle on the bbs.

I would say with a 52 volt battery the TSDZ8 would annihilate the Bosch CX. It would peak over 1000 watts when pushed. I’m sure the CX would have a better torque sensor and be more sensitive. I own the Bbs02b and the TSDZ8. The TSDZ8 is much stronger at climbing hills than the Bbs02.

@@MRJohnson01 is tsdz8 stronger than bbs02 at the same power?does both motor have same amper controller and same voltage?is there any difference when it comes to overheating between theese two motors?

I’d like to do that comparison! I don’t currently own that motor.

Thank you for the kind words! I’m not sure the percentages of power for each of the 5 levels. I pretty much leave it on level 5 and it doesn’t draw much power until I start pushing hard. It reminds me of a BBS02B if it came with a torque sensor. The first two levels are nearly useless, 3 through 5 are progressively more powerful. Currently there isn’t an easy way to program the software like the Bafang Configuration tool. It’s my opinion that they will develop a way to update the software and add in tuning options. All that said, I’m glad I bought the motor and I’m looking forward to seeing what the future holds for programming.

Thanks! Totally agree!! Really enjoying mine too. I’m looking forward to building another bike with the same motor 😎

I agree! I love the motor compared with my Tsdz2b OSF. There’s definitely an overrun I had to get used to 😁

Thanks for watching! No, I haven’t been able to update the software yet. I’m sure someone will figure it out soon 😉

Glad you liked it!

The display came with the motor and was already working properly.

@@MRJohnson01 nice, where did you buy it? For me I see only available option is pswpower, found some on ebay but they do not ship to Norway :(

Is the tsdz8 quieter than the tsdz2 because I find the tsdz2 very noisy.

@@MRJohnson01 Thanks for your video. Question: Is that an EKD01 display you have - i.e., the display that came with the tsdz8 motor? Could you please share the name and model # of the display? thanks!

@@terragady Sorry for the late response! I bought it on AliExpress. The store I got it from is out of stock currently I believe. Mine was around $400USD.

Lol, I could probably ride across the United States 😁

@@MRJohnson01 do it ;) ;) regards from Poland ;)

I prefer the torque sensing of the TSDZ8. You get the power of the Bbs02 but with the fun of the torque sensor!

I got the EKD01 Bluetooth display. It works fine but can’t change the wheel size from 26inch to 29 inch for some reason. Hopefully they will release a software update.

I have 2 TSDZ2B motors that are running OSF and this motor is much more powerful than they are. It’s like a Bbs02b if it was torque sensing. I’m hoping for OSF for this TSDZ8. That said, the TSDZ2B motors are very responsive and take less time to activate.

I never weighed it with the Bbs02b. I have since installed a Tsdz2b torque sensor motor and it weighs close to 53 pounds currently. You can add a few pounds for the Bafang motor.

Sorry for the late response. Yes the forks do have a lot of flex. I wanted to get the bike finished and this was the quickest way to get it done. I have been thinking about going to a rigid fork 🤔

@@MRJohnson01 No worries. After several rides my forks developed a lot of play between the inner and outer tubes. Rigid would probably perform a lot better and be safer.

Hello, Here's a link to the exact headset I used. I chose this one for the sealed bearings. www.ebay.com/itm/44mm-MTB-Bearing-Headsets-1-1-8-Threadless-Road-Bike-Bicycle-Fork-Steerer-Parts-/293875355340?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

@@MRJohnson01 thank you so much but I thought the bike frame has integrated cups for integrated headset?

You are correct. The link to the Jessica headset is integrated and requires the upper and lower cups to be pressed into the frame.

Thank you so much for the information I have one more question I'm having a hard time finding wheelsets for this frame that is in stock can you recommend a brand or can you tell me what you bought for yours

Hello, The frame is a 100 mm bottom bracket so I used the 120mm BBSHD and it gave me a little wiggle room. I also used bottom bracket spacers to get the chainline i was looking for with my 8 speed setup.

@@MRJohnson01 Nice man I have a minnesota 3.0 I am planning to convert. Do you think the frame can handle the power of it? Hubs too?

@@backyardr.c.channel4732 Hello, This is just my humble opinion..... I'm fairly confident about the frame, however I would want to research the rear hub (190)mm. Mine is 170mm and works great!! It seems like i've seen somewhere that 190 mm could be problematic. Please don't take my word for it! Maybe someone else has experience with this.

I have this exact build and used a 100mm bbshd kit and it fits perfect, no spacer needed

@@MRJohnson01 exactly same thing I did with the 120mm BB with the BBSHD

Thank you! It was a fun build:)