unfortunately starting as the poorest clan just doesn't give them much to work with

and they synergize very well with the satsuma honor bonus! unlike the poor mori who get 'cheaper' warrior monks (still expensive though) and both Kaga and Kii are both a bit of a stretch to get that honor bonus

I reckon it only works on smaller enemy armies, so it can be a perfect early game river battle strat

Hey not bad for a first campaign! I agree that's its not ideal to play either the Imagawa or the Takeda by abandoning either of their northern or southern regions. Still, these are tricky factions to figure out for beginners. Have you ever returned to the Takeda and played a campaign where you held Kai and Aki?

@@khanofsteppe1667 I haven't, and I don't plan on doing so for a while. I'd have to buy it again, and I'm getting lost in the sauce playing Shogun 2 right now. And of course, Takeda don't start with Aki in that game. Maybe one day in the future, I'll get back to trying to defend both sides.

@@roguewisdom8742 hey sauce away! Shogun 2 looks like a hell of a game to get lost in. Shogun 1 while always be there waiting for you

That battle in Tosa ranks up their with the Ikko-Ikki in central Japan as one of the campaigns greatest early game foes.

No more shogun!?!?!? 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@@benkirimlidis I know, same 😭😭😭😭

I'm think the battles on easy mode are ending too fast to notice...😑

@@khanofsteppe1667 the arcadey-ness begins! I was watching legend of total war a few days ago ( yes, I'm sorry I do watch others 😜) and he was talking about how much longer Rome battles were and how much larger and varied the maps were compared to Warhammer/later games....... So yup! All downhill from here!

@@benkirimlidis lol hmmm I guess I'll find see when i get there but dang, i just finished a rome sesh and I was just thinking during a battle (while my army was moving during the ridiculously slow fast forward phase) that gosh certain aspects of the maps sure look nice in rome, nice textures, nice vistas. but the tactical considerations sure are muted on Rome maps, like there's just nothing there! open plain, big whoop, big trees big whoop. i've only battled on a quarter of the map though so maybe the rest of it is cooler 🤷

@@khanofsteppe1667 hmm I *think* Rome remastered has a better fats forward function. And online there are debates/conflicting info/opinions about whether the remaster has the same general rules/ai etc. as the OG vanilla. Only discrepancy I am aware of in terms gameplay/mechanics is that in the remaster merchants are a thing, but in the OG they weren't. Have you considered playing the remaster now? It would kind of go against starting playing them on their anniversary...just a thought

Not that I'm aware of!

lol, hey I'm glad you enjoyed it! One of these days I'll have to play a 1530 Takeda campaign. I have some fun ideas for how I want to play them in battle. And I reckon that without the Mori clan to contend with in the west, the west will be a lot easier to tame 😈

Hi Daniel! Episode 28 will have to wait until sunday but I did just finish my Oda campaign so that means I'll be able to spend the rest of my precious upload time on this Danish campaign! I'm glad you're enjoying this type of gameplay. Sometimes I worry that if I'm not always attacking then this game might appear to be boring. Which is the last thing I want to do! Still, I have to remind myself that I have a lot to learn about this game and the best way to learn these things is to take a methodical observational approach to playing these games and test out different mechanics so that I can find functional strategies. By the sounds of it, your strategy in many ways aligns with my own. As much as I don't want to develop a meta strategy that stays the same for every campaign, a powerful economy feels so liberating and it's very fun to play with. It provides a cushion the softens defeat in other areas of the campaign so that I can play more freely with experimenting with other more off meta ideas/units/army comps. The Egyptians will be my next campaign, so I hope you stick around or at least pop in later and drop some tips/tricks or analysis. I've practiced with their opening and they seem very straightforward but they have an interesting unit roster that I'm looking forward to fighting with!

Ahh so if you sent off six units at once you felt that you could reliably get your reinforcements on in reasonable time? If that's the magic number then I'm game to try and figure out how to perform more elaborate reinforcement based strategies like I like to use (or am learning) in Medieval.

@@khanofsteppe1667 think it also works with 4 groups, but I always matched the number of troops send away with my reserves. So 6vs6 or 4vs4.

You mean Kawachi was constantly being attacked by measly naval invasions? I've had that happen while holding Owari. Sadly that seems to be the A.I.'s only pathetic attempts at using naval invasions.

Ah gotcha gotcha, so business as usual. I appreciate you checking it out, and thanks again for explaining the wraparound bug. It's funny, I just came across an old thread where a dev had joined a conversation to provide some concrete answers and some of the folks in the forum where complaining to him that a lot of the game mechanics were too vague and even the guides didn't provide all of the answers! His retort was that they intentionally designed the game that way so that it would provide an experience that would force the community to band together and bounce ideas off one another. And here we are 20+years later still figuring this stuff out...... 🤣 WELL I HOPE HE'S FREAKING PROUD OF HIMSELF!!

@@khanofsteppe1667 loooooool It was a different time :D

Ah that's so cool! I know only a little bit about these events so I'm glad you've pointed out this historical character and given me this short history lesson 🙏 What I should do is look up a list of the historical characters for the Danes and do some wiki searches on them so that I can do a better job of keeping an eye out for them. I've been listening to the Scandinavian history podcast so that I can get a better understanding of the medieval period in this region but I'm still in the Viking age! 😅 I'm looking forward to learning more about the post viking era of Scandinavian history 👍

Yes! Kaga is god tier! No matter whether I'm attacking or defending, it's so much fun to play on that map!

I'm going to lean on you so hard when looking for answers 😅 I feel like my channel is going to have to collectively baby bird me through my first two campaigns until I can learn to fly. Oh! I already got one. How the heck can I get a protectorate?? I've already read the online diplomacy guide on the Org written by Timur. And I've skimmed through anything else I could get my hands on but no dice so far! 🤷 I've laid siege to the Dacians last settlement, I've threatened to attack them, I've offered to give settlements, I've offered them money (I only have 5k in the bank but I put it all on the table for them) I even offered to give them every settlement that I own except for my capitol. Are there cultural biases in the diplomacy of RTW? I'm wondering if the Dacians are refusing my threats because I'm playing as the Julii and maybe they're predisposed to hate the Romans? OR am I just not rich enough to force this through? Maybe protectorates can be achieved by throwing tens of thousands of coins at them? I've even tried gifting them stuff, map information, settlements, payments, just to try to sweeten the pot. They won't except my gifts!! This is my first campaign while playing on easy btw so I'm also wondering if the difficulty has any role on the diplomacy in this game?

​@@khanofsteppe1667 Oh duuuuuude, I am so glad you asked about protectorates! A few years ago I got serious about figuring out that little mechanic and found a LP series by a youtuber called InfernoCanuck. He was doing a campaign as Sparta for the Rise of a Persia mod for RTW, and he ended up getting a couple of protectorates, and I took an embarrassing amount of notes. Now I can do it pretty reliably. So here's my procedure: 0 - Nowadays I play on Medium campaign difficulty. I used to play on Hard but after playing some mods that used Medium as a baseline I've been converted: the AI just seems more reasonable in that mode. It's still dumb, and if you share a border with an AI faction you will be attacked eventually, unless (1) they are your vassal, or (2) they are at war with a faction that borders them, and they're too busy to attack you. But at least on Medium, you can get some longer, more 'reasonable' periods of peace, and the campaign will feel more balanced. (I should also note that as you know I tend to play 'lean' campaigns where I'm not training tons of troops or blitzing the AI, so YMMV) 1 - First step is to raise cash, because protectorates almost always cost a large initial outlay of money. My usual goal is to get 100k in the bank before I seriously go after a protectorate, but in vanilla RTW I think I've gotten some protectorates for as low as 10k or less. (I know it seems ridiculous to pay the AI, but it's worth it as I'll explain) 2 - The next step is to dominate the faction militarily. You don't necessarily need to get them down to their last city, but you *do* want to have all of their cities under siege, and preferably you want their garrisons to be small. You also want to eliminate all of their armies in the field. Blockade their ports for good measure. 3 - Once you've let the AI stew for a few turns, get one of your diplomats and have him either find a diplomat of the target faction, or lift the siege of their settlement. I usually set up the initial offer something like this: an offer of Map Information or of a small amount of cash (100 or 500 gold, say), with the demand side blank. See what they come back at you with. It will probably be some ridiculous demand, like all of their cities and a bunch of money. You can then counter-offer by demanding they become a protectorate, and *offering* 100k, or just your entire treasury. (Again, you might be able to go lower than this - 10k or 50k - or you might have to go higher. I've paid as much as 200k in the past.) 4 - If they accept, congratulations! You have a protectorate. But bad news! You're broke. Worry not though - next turn, you'll get all of that money back, plus whatever extra cash the faction had lying around. The way protectorates work is that they pay you anything above a certain amount of money to maintain their basic expenses. So the AI will take your money, but on the next turn when they're your vassal, they'll have all of that money that they'll then have to return into your coffers. Theoretically, if your vassal has good infrastructure and a bunch of rich cities, you can make a good amount of cash from them, and you won't have to worry about the expenses of garrisoning or improving those cities yourself - not to mention you don't have to deal with the corruption penalties on income, etc. It IS a ridiculous system. But you can make good money off a rich protectorate - although I've noticed that vanilla factions seem quite a bit poorer than in mods, for whatever reason. But above the financial aspect, the reason I love protectorates is that you can use them as buffer states. Making an AI faction your vassal really puts them in a submissive mood, and they tend not to expand anymore, which makes them a safe neighbor. If you want, you can give them territory in between you and some other faction that you don't want to fight - and because you don't share a border with that other faction, you'll almost never come into conflict with them. It's a great way to avoid getting drawn into long and expensive, tedious wars. The one trick to *keeping* your vassal is that you need to keep them diplomatically isolated from the other factions. If your vassal allies with faction X, and X attacks you, then your vassal may side with faction X and you just lost your protectorate! To avoid that situation, relentlessly attack your vassal's other allies (or make sure they're not in a position to attack you). The vassal will usually side with you if you strike the first blow. Anyway that's more than enough for now. I did put together a video on protectorates using the Fourth Age: Total War mod as an example, but the procedure works in vanilla too. (Once as Macedon I had like 5 protectorates - it was awesome) So you look like you're on the right track with Dacia - just keep throwing ever-higher amounts of cash at 'em! And when they do finally submit, consider tossing them a city or too to use 'em as a buffer state!

@@countmrvhs776 God bless you and your note taking 🙌 You're setting the bar too high by writing me and essay like this. If this is going to be the standard reply for all of your answers to my Rome questions then I'm going to owe you a new keyboard at some point 🤭 Knowing this, I'll have to focus on learning the games economy a bit better, unfortunately I was pretty much broke, and even after following your steps and offering multiple settlements and my entire treasury they still declined. But this all seems to be my doing and not the fault of the method you've prescribed. Also, the damned Brutii came in a achieved forcing the protectorate right after my senate mission had run out! 🤬 Like, I get it Brutii you're richer than god Still, I'm thrilled that this is a usable, functional mechanic. The InfernoCanuck might be the only internet source that has demonstrated this function (until you caught on). I'll have to pop on over to his channel and thank him and I'll also have to check out your protectorate guide as well. Just one thing, does the protectorate settlements count towards your victory condition?

@@khanofsteppe1667 Protectorate settlements *seem* to count toward your victory conditions. When you have a protectorate, you can see on your faction info screen that you are considered to have a number of provinces equal to the total of your owned settlements and the owned settlements of your vassal. BUT! In my experience - with modded games, FWIW - you will not actually trigger the victory video when you reach your victory conditions. Let's say you need 50 cities to win, and you have control of 44 cities while your protectorate owns 5. Conquering 1 more city should get you victory - but it doesn't. The victory video only plays when you yourself directly control 50 cities. Again, that's only tested with modded campaigns, but I kinda suspect it works that way in vanilla too. It's a bummer, but I would say you should give yourself the win if you ever find yourself in that situation! As for AI factions getting protectorates, I have no idea how that happens - they seem to be working on totally different rules from the player. Like, you'll see 2 factions go to war, and then on the very next turn, with no settlements changing hands, faction A will submit to being a vassal of faction B. They make it look too easy! One caution about offering settlements as part of a diplomatic deal, for protectorates or otherwise: over the years some folks have observed (& I have corroborated) that the AI is very sensitive to the position of your armies. Sometimes you want to give the AI a territory, say because you don't want to share a border with a powerful rival, so you want to give your ally a poor border city. If you try that, you need to make sure you don't have any troops standing around in the province. (They can be in the city, but they can't be inside the provincial borders in the field.) Otherwise, the AI will pretty consistently refuse, even if you also offer them a bunch of cash along with the province. So sometimes I suspect players are accidentally sabotaging their protectorate attempts by offering the AI territories where the player's armies are standing around. Also, the fact that quite frequently it seems to be necessary to *pay* the AI to take cities means that offering cities as part of a protectorate deal may have questionable value ... sometimes. Who knows. :P

@@countmrvhs776 Ahh okay, I might've had some troop in the provinces when I was trying to offer the protectorate. Still, I reckon I was just too poor to pull it off at the time. I'll be ready next time! And yeah that's a bummer that protectorate provinces don't count towards the province total. I guess I'll just have to 'convince' them to hand them back over to me once I'm ready for them. Next question: (at the risk of creating a never ending comment column) Do you have any issues with OG Rome crashing? You are playing Fourth Age in OG Rome? My steam version crashes roughly every hour. No framerate issues or graphics issues that I can tell. It doesn't crash upon startup or when loading into a campaign. Just once I'm loaded in and I've been playing for a bit it'll crash to desktop, sometimes while I'm on the strategy map and sometimes while I'm in a battle. I've been searching around for fixes. Some of the fix guides on steam seem very complicated so I figured I'd drop a line and see if you had any tips before I jumped into anything. I know playing the remaster is an option but that kind of defeats the whole point of my channel 🤷

rip ❤

I've only just begun to dive back into learning about history in the last few years and that is one thing that I've noticed, sooo many inter family conflicts! Family on family warfare was so pervasive throughout history that I'm actually curious as to what caused it to stop. Was it the Pope? Or Christianity? Or did it take a switch from monarchical rule to parliamentary rule to reduce fratricide?

It's not the fact that CA added variable weather to MTW that bothers me. It's just that it's toooo erratic. Having the weather switch ten minutes into the battle is one thing. Having the weather switch while I'm still deploying my army is another.

I reckon you will will! You're blazing through my campaigns atm and I'm sad to say I'm going to have reduce my weekly uploads so that I can make time to practice RTW so that I can start covering that game for it's 20th anniversary in September. I hope you like Viking Invasion campaigns because I have a couple of those finished!

Hey there! I'm glad you're enjoying the campaign so far! There's a lot more to come 👍

@@khanofsteppe1667 What's been the high point for you so far during this campaign? If it's something in a future episode, don't tell me exactly but hint and tell me the episode to look out for.

@@dancingpotplant The civil war really threw a wrench in things just when I was preparing the take the north!

Additional didn’t hold out on taking the castle in isa resulted in getting myself a famous swords man who I’ll call Yoda So far Autum 1541 only two battles one being taking a castle