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@CriptonBot
@CriptonBot 22 күн бұрын
It’s crap if you can’t store the electricity, like in Metro exodus
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 22 күн бұрын
@CriptonBot Agreed! This is less of a tool, and more of a novelty/science fair project.
@combatsportsunited4123
@combatsportsunited4123 Ай бұрын
Been looking for a way to run my unit for like a year at this point without shelling out hundreds, you’re a budget saver!
@AbsolutionArmament
@AbsolutionArmament 3 ай бұрын
I came across the video trying to figure out what voltage the batteries were and you've gave me some hope since these units are so cheap and utilize standardized filters. My current papr I converted to run off of Dewalt batteries (Woodworking, paint and welding.) If the really is tolerant to that decree all I have to do is install a battery controller sister board and just make a second battery adapter for the unit.
@Hneely
@Hneely 4 ай бұрын
You didn’t give a whole lot of effort before giving it a no. It’s $30, with a few more components it would be possible to operate the CB radio, and the am fm. So any one interested and has $30, go for it, and possibly another 30 bucks you could have this thing operating and have fun doing it.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 4 ай бұрын
@@Hneely Did you miss the part with the horrific RF interference it generates, making radio listening all but impossible?
@Hneely
@Hneely 4 ай бұрын
@@moconnell663 try a capacitor, there are various sizes. Possibly a bank of them to quiet it down. Plus there are other tricks, I’m not an expert but I tinker with this. Many of these mothers are sold with a capacitor soldered in already, it also works on the generating side and reduces the noise. I’m at work so I can’t locate a picture and a description right now. But old RC motors have them installed already
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 4 ай бұрын
@@Hneely Have you watched the Part II video on this? I go a bit more in-depth there and answer lots of the questions posed by earlier commenters.
@Minister_Kitty
@Minister_Kitty 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for a review!
@deskmat9874
@deskmat9874 6 ай бұрын
That looks like a drill motor no wonder it doesn't perform very well to generate as much as possible
@doubleooh7337
@doubleooh7337 8 ай бұрын
If i made a 1,200w hand crank generator , would it be the most powerful in the world? Being this^ is only 20w
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 8 ай бұрын
That assumes you have arms like the Jolly Green Giant to crank it with. You cannot develop 1200w of motive force with human arm muscles.
@doubleooh7337
@doubleooh7337 8 ай бұрын
@@moconnell663 i see what you mean you struggle to produce 20w 🤣
@offgrid2010
@offgrid2010 9 ай бұрын
I'm interested in a pedal generator that powers a super efficient e-bike motor. Would love to hear people's ideas on that...It's probably just one more fantasy to get enough power by pedaling that wouldn't wear me out but I'm thinking of putting it on my back wheel in addition to my 1000 watt front hub motor. Or maybe just use the pedal generator to boost the power going to the single front motor! Less weight and complexity.
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 10 ай бұрын
Why not use the enclosure and drive gearing and pair it to a different more appropriate motor and electronics? Unfortunately, even if you did that and put not only a more appropriate motor but a much higher quality one, your arm is really the limiting factor no matter what. This is an unfamiliar exercise for which you do not have good conditioning for performing for long periods of time. (you have probably never turned a handle in your life for a 1/2 hour straight) Even a very efficient set up is going to need at least 4-5 additional mechanical watts into the motor to end up with 20 watts at the load. Even charging an NIMH 2500mah AA battery is going to consume over 3 watt hours (they are not 100% efficient, especially at high current). Even if the battery could take 2500ma, which most cannot without damaging them, that would be an hour of turning this thing. I would not want to turn that handle for an hour straight even without an electrical load on it. Maybe a month of doing it every day for an hour might leave you with a build up of the right muscles and "muscle memory" to not become fatigued.
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 10 ай бұрын
Who cares if the generator is capable of putting out 20 watts? Your arm really cannot do this continuously for very long. For 20 watts of output, think more like 26-30 watts mechanical input.
@illygotbeats
@illygotbeats 10 ай бұрын
Maybe someone here can help me. I bought this for emergencies. I tested it out the box due to a coincidental power outtage when it arrived. I wanted to charge my phone. I set it to 5 as it says everywhere to do. I cranked for 30mins desperate to charge my phone and all it did was continue to lose power. The phone said it was charging but just kept dying. I've tried it on several devices since then and it's the same story and there's like no info online about this issue. Any ideas? Or ideas for a fix?? Side note. On devices with more than 50% power there is more resistance, but its not consistent!! Sometimes it slips like it's charging a dead battery then goes back to stiff again.
@illygotbeats
@illygotbeats 10 ай бұрын
Maybe someone here can help me. I bought this for emergencies. I tested it out the box due to a coincidental power outtage when it arrived. I wanted to charge my phone. I set it to 5 as it says everywhere to do. I cranked for 30mins desperate to charge my phone and all it did was continue to lose power. The phone said it was charging but just kept dying. I've tried it on several devices since then and it's the same story and there's like no info online about this issue. Any ideas? Or ideas for a fix?? Side note. On devices with more than 50% power there is more resistance, but its not consistent!! Sometimes it slips like it's charging a dead battery then goes back to stiff again.
@x9moto
@x9moto 11 ай бұрын
I have just got mine today and been playing, have figured out that it can do 3amps at 5v if you can turn it fast enough and some small mods needed. Firstly you wont manage to maintain 3 amps for long its hard work. So what i noticed is initially similar results to your video untill i realised when i hit about an amp there was this 'slipping feeling' like the load dissapeared.... anyway long story short the usb devices start panicking and shutoff when theres too much electrical noise. Mods done, thicker wire from motor to board, 2 x 680uf capacitors in parallel with the motor (before the diode on the pcb) Made a 12v sockets tail to try an external regulator usb 3.0 and pdc. So what i found is yes the internal regulator does convert less energy than a better external one, but the internal one was still able to hit 2.4 amps and the external one could hit 3amps but you have to go crazy on the handle and you need a usb device that will accept the current or it throttles then the lever goes slack and you smack your knuckles on something. Using a type c torch with 3 18650 cells inside it would accept whatever i could get out without limiting, and 2 amps is possible at 5v with the internal reg, and 2.8amps with the external. The main issue from factory is the silly 1 amp wire on the motor to the board (it gets very hot), upgrade it to as thick as you have to kill the voltage drop which is the main issue, secondly some very beefy caps to stop the devices panicking when the voltage is irregular when turning the handle, you want enough capacitance to make the output fully stable. Super caps would be good but i just used what i had. I put them before the blocking diode on the pcb due to inrush current, i didnt want to blow the diode. Sleeved the wobbly handle with a piece of brass bush that i machined at work. So if you have time give this a try then measure the current and see if you get the same result as me. The motor is suprisingly powerfull as a generator i spun it on a drill (not too fast) and could keep a solid 3 amps so it sees the gearing could do with less rpm on the handle and more torque to make it more sustainable. Thanks, Mat.
@mikeezlove5006
@mikeezlove5006 11 ай бұрын
the secret is always in the pully system to more points engin starter is just a kicker you just want a yank cord instead of hand that means motor loop power enough to start the motor loops around to charge the outer moter but pull other charge makers just rip cord and go its a loop kicker ...
@codingfun63
@codingfun63 Жыл бұрын
add a bank of super capacitors .
@ciro_costa
@ciro_costa Жыл бұрын
at 17 minutes or so Is the crackling noise interference from the dc motor?
@alanbrown7155
@alanbrown7155 Жыл бұрын
Yes i know what you mean. I bought this unit and filled it with 8/ 2.7v 100f super caps. I have also swapped out the circuit board and replaced it with a 4amp mppt regulation board. I can output what voltage and amps output that i want.
@bensmith4563
@bensmith4563 Жыл бұрын
Thing looks super chintzy
@Ansis99
@Ansis99 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I make my own setup with this HCG motor. The same conclusions. Real crank power is 5W. This is it. No more.
@nicholasbrunzelle4494
@nicholasbrunzelle4494 2 жыл бұрын
You got the cats to get the mouse but now the cats are friends with the mice what are you going to do get a dog to get rid of the cats and the mice and then the dogs going to be friends with the cats and the mice pretty soon you ain't going to have a place to live sir get some mouse traps some poison
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
I stepped on it. Problem solved.
@helle-niceengelhardt8775
@helle-niceengelhardt8775 2 жыл бұрын
Mouse really said U WANNA FIGHT BISH
@NotWatchingTV
@NotWatchingTV 2 жыл бұрын
let him out! <3
@paytonc5692
@paytonc5692 2 жыл бұрын
Tom and Jerry when the mouse actually fights back
@pursellkevin
@pursellkevin 2 жыл бұрын
What tracks/intersection was this in PP?
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it was. I filmed at the 88th ave/hwy H crossing.
@cesastephenlouiseb9061
@cesastephenlouiseb9061 2 жыл бұрын
hello can we know what type and model dynamo was used in the generator?? can you also suggest on the type of dynamo and its specs that would be great to use in a bike generator? thank you so much
@Booozy3050
@Booozy3050 2 жыл бұрын
LaserSaber did an upgrade for this same unit to make it a Boost Pack with super capacitors. He did it internally, but my plan is to make an external pack. I have loads of USB lighting in my container shed that can charge off simple solar packs but I like to cover every base for the dark times. His vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/raLVgaJsh65lrpo
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thanks for sharing that.
@GiesbertNijhuis
@GiesbertNijhuis 2 жыл бұрын
I think your power wires are too thin. But then; so are USB wires.
@GiesbertNijhuis
@GiesbertNijhuis Жыл бұрын
Just watched your video again, very helpful as I am struggling to optimize the output of a similar DC motor-generator.
@fdsman
@fdsman 2 жыл бұрын
Are there better options besides using bare copper wire for the conductors in the connector? I have to imagine there's some kind of pin socket that would be a better solution, especially now that the supply issues are largely over.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
I did check, and I found absolutely no pins commercially available that were the right diameter. 3M decided to roll their own, so to speak.
@RjMacProductions
@RjMacProductions 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to add a dial (a potentiometer, I believe) to make it variable speed! Do you think that would be realistic? (Especially if you hook it up to a slightly higher voltage battery... Like a 20V Dewalt battery)
@glen440
@glen440 2 жыл бұрын
I'm playing with a breathe easy right now. The battery it came with is 6 volts. I have tried the 5 volt, 7.2 rc car battery and a 12v Milwaukee with a speed controller. I got a pwm DC motor controller off Amazon. I 3d printed adapters to use 3m filters and adapt to the 3m mask.
@fdsman
@fdsman Жыл бұрын
@@glen440 do you think you could make a video going over your findings? I'd be very interested.
@glen440
@glen440 Жыл бұрын
@fdsman I have no way of measuring air flow. 5 volts is enough for a closed half mask. Needs more air flow for a hood. My work has supplied air for the paint booth. Want a setup for sanding and welding. I'm using adapters to put 3m mask filters on the unit, I just ordered nato thread p100 filters as they should flow more air. The 3m mask p100 center hole is small. I can say it's way better with supplied air vs pulling air in while breathing. I also just cut the cord, only need the original end for the original battery.
@M.L.764
@M.L.764 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Can it be used to charge the Yaesu ft4x or Baofeng uv5 radio?
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, both chargers for those radios appear to take DC from a typical barrel jack. Be warned that the owner's manual for both radios suggest that battery charging time would be 3.5 hours...
@gianfrancopurpura8112
@gianfrancopurpura8112 2 жыл бұрын
For a few dollars more it would be better to replace the crank with an antique wind-up type mechanism that lasts at least an hour. Anyway congratulations!
@gianfrancopurpura8112
@gianfrancopurpura8112 2 жыл бұрын
For a few dollars more it would be better to replace the crank with an antique wind-up type mechanism that lasts at least an hour. Anyway congratulations!
@johnnaglic
@johnnaglic 2 жыл бұрын
I have not seen this video that you posted when I commented on the prior video you made on this product. The fact that the CFL lamp rated 13 watts at 12 volts DC did not light up until you had a capacitor simply explains that the DC generated is not filtered a whole lot. If you were to hook your oscilloscope on the load as you were using without the cap, you would see the ripple riding on the DC voltage. By adding the external cap you now smoothened out the ripple which is the most likely unfiltered DC from the commutator of the motor / generator. This you can see easily on the scope when you hook up that big cap on how the ripple will now be reduced allowing a more pure DC to be fed into the lamp's internal converter to operate. Does it specify 13 watts on the lamp? I have seen CFL lamps with lower wattage ratings down to six watts maybe. It's been a while for me now that all my lamps are LED based. Either way, I can see that you were working with everything clamped down in order to make it light up. There was a lot of mechanical force there that was short lived, lol. Back to my findings as well that power comes at a price of torque. For any generator, the maximum power efficiency will be when the external load resistance is matched with that of the internal resistance of the generator. In other wards, 50% of the energy will be lost at the source of the generator, and the other half will go to your load. It's fundamental rule if I remember correctly with efficiency of energy transfer. I think they refer to it as a balanced load for optimum power transfer. The same idea applies to impedance matching transformers for the best possible signal strength transmission, but that is all RF stuff.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
The generator cannot supply the inrush current needed to strike the lamp. Without the capacitor in circuit the lamp drags the generator voltage down below what is needed to sustain the lamp discharge long enough for the strike to fail. It will oscillate back and forth forever. The reserve of current provided by the cap gets it over the 'hump' so to speak. The output is not perfectly smooth, but it's no worse than I would expect from a cheap wallwart power supply.
@johnnaglic
@johnnaglic 2 жыл бұрын
@@moconnell663 I don't think it is the inrush current. My thought is that the effective DC coming from the commutator is not at the right effective RMS DC level to cause the bulb's converter to kick in. What the capacitor is doing is smoothening out the roughness of them DC pulses and thus elevating the effective DC voltage to one that the bulb's internal converter can now commence operation. That's why when you connect the battery to your bulb, it lights up without any issues. Reason is because the battery has enough reserve capacity of current and is of steady state DC not pulsuating DC as such from the commutator in the generator. If you viewed the pulses on the oscilloscope you will see them go from zero to max peaks. Take the average effective DC amplitude and you will find that the effective DC level is just not enough. You already got the meters to measure voltage and an oscilloscope to view the waveform if you desire to adventure yourself. You can also find the inrush current using the scope if you shall desire with the use of a resistor as a shunt to measure the current across the resistor that will offer you pretty good answers but I don't think that is the issue. Like you said earlier, solar panel may be the best answer keeping on track.
@johnnaglic
@johnnaglic 2 жыл бұрын
20 watts on such a tiny crank, I don't think so. Did you load test it using a resistive load and a real power meter? My generator that I made can at best do around maybe 10 watts. And good luck cranking after two watts by hand, the torque gets very in your face, not easy at all to maintain this kind of force over prolonged time. My thoughts is maybe fractional watt at best for that tiny motor. Power really needs torque to transfer energy in big numbers. Any way, it is compact overall, but I would not believe them specs. Any generator that produces some real amount of power, usually has some sort of gas engine driving it with real horse power to create realistic energy to do practical work, otherwise we are talking micro power under one watt of energy.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
I forget where in the video (and dont feel like finding it right now) but it does hold up 20W on the unregulated output through a resistive load. The real weak link in this product is the switching power supply, it is very inefficient. In Part 2 I succeed in getting it to light a 13W fluorescent lamp. Overall I still rate it as 'junk' though. Buy a 20W solar panel instead.
@darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893
@darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893 2 жыл бұрын
So whats the best one for 5volt 2 Amps?
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
Based on my experience with dodgy specifications on consumer goods, buy one that claims to produce 5V5A and you'll have a decent chance of it actually making 2A.
@darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893
@darkijah-andersjehovahsn7893 2 жыл бұрын
@@moconnell663 Yea its sad they have to lie and deceive. I am looking at some foot chargers, I have found 3, one of them can also be used for hands, they can do 100 watts and one can only do 50 watts. Still looking around, not cheap for sure.
@stupidscruff
@stupidscruff 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine it's junk until you need one, better than nothing 😂
@GLITCHDADA
@GLITCHDADA 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for review , think I give it a miss , anything from China is very suss these days
@clarkedarren241
@clarkedarren241 2 жыл бұрын
You boring bastard just attach to a phone and crack it up and see if it starts charging.
@raydogloc8127
@raydogloc8127 2 жыл бұрын
Who gives a shit!
@TumpaTalapatra
@TumpaTalapatra 2 жыл бұрын
5:53 what's that on you cap?
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
When I started making the video I was using the internal microphone in the camera which sounded terrible. I made an external microphone out of a broken toy walkie-talkie. It sounds much better, though still not great.
@joesmoe71
@joesmoe71 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love it if someone would sell or release the schematic and foil pattern for a PCB to adapt old cordless drills to be crank generators, I see them used all the time at thrift stores etc going for next to nothing because the cost of buying new batteries isn't worth it, but some of them have pretty heavy duty motors and gear boxes in them that are probably superior to what's in that Banggood generator. Maybe have the kit designed to optimize the output and suppress the noise of a 12 or 18v drill motor and leave working out the mechanics of making it crankable to the person? If this kind of kit is available somewhere already someone please direct me to it. As far as suggested mods to the Banggood generator I'd attach pieces of angle iron to the sides to allow it to be clamped or screwed down and one inverted piece across the front to force it to stay flush with the edge of the table so you don't end up having it creep around and bash the handle and/or knuckles on the edge. The angle iron can be salvaged from an old bed frame for free if you grab one someone is throwing out, for the $30 I might get one of these generators just to see what kinds of mechanical enhancements I can come up with.
@monmonmon4177
@monmonmon4177 2 жыл бұрын
change motor with large one to get more AMP but check if the regulator can handle more power, motors used for wind electricity generator are the best, one used here is a chiness low quality
@scotthemedic
@scotthemedic 2 жыл бұрын
Do you sell these?
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
In the sense that I can make you one and you can choose to contribute to my coffee fund.
@richardely6319
@richardely6319 8 ай бұрын
@@moconnell663 where would you go to be able to do that?
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 8 ай бұрын
@@richardely6319 Consider my work to be part of the public domain. Enjoy.
@richardely6319
@richardely6319 8 ай бұрын
@@moconnell663 would the option that you could make one and i could choose to contribute to your coffee fund be applicable still?
@kennethyu4868
@kennethyu4868 2 жыл бұрын
Planning on putting 8 super capacitors in series and swap in a buck converter with QC3 for both usb ports. I believe most of the 20watt can then be used for charging then.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 2 жыл бұрын
Let us know how it works out!
@makingd.o.1694
@makingd.o.1694 3 жыл бұрын
Question ❓ if if I replace the hand crank with blades and placed in a water vortex to turn it could I change a 12 volt lead acid battery and would I need to connect something like a solar charger controller
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically yes, though you may need to try out various different linkages to get the shaft speed to work out with respect to how fast your water is moving. Having some means of preventing overcharging would definitely be in order. You can use something as basic as a linear regulator and it will be ok.
@makingd.o.1694
@makingd.o.1694 3 жыл бұрын
@@moconnell663 all right I have a off grid cabin with solar but the sun doesn't shine at night or with heavy clouds same with wind I collect rain water so my thought is to use a siphon pump ( they are called free energy water pumps all over KZbin if you need a reference) in my loft siphoned from a water reservoir feeding back to the reservoir so a constant flow of water with the vortex created in a upsidedown 5 gallon water bottle with a small PVC tube connected to the shaft and larger half PVC pipes for the blades do you think it's got potential or should I buy a larger DC motor this hand crank seems ready made for my idea I'm planning on installing the siphon pump anyway to feed my faucet trying to save power wherever I can
@truthbeknown8550
@truthbeknown8550 3 жыл бұрын
Problem with Chinese motors is that materials like copper, magnets and other components are expensive and the purity of copper as well as thickness and number of windings with good quality magnets, is a pipe dream when it comes to Chinese motors. The ultimate problem is that stupid consumer should stop buying these crap until the manufacturers learn their lesson.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with your reasoning is that China has become the industrial powerhouse that it is as a result of standardizing components across multiple industries. The economies of scale have lead to an overall increase in quality. Manufacturers have no lesson to learn here, as they only make what retailers specify they should make. The exception to that are things bought directly from China, doing an end-around on retailers. An excellent example of this that I am familiar with is the oscillating fan. If you go to a US retailer and buy two fans, the cheapest one they have, and the fanciest one they have you will discover that they use EXACTLY the same motor. It is the same because of those economies of scale, it would simply cost more to make two different qualities of motors. The 'cheap' one is lubricated with corn oil, while the 'good' one is lubricated with a proper synthetic machine oil. The cheap one is the way it is because the retailer contracted with the manufacturer to produce a fan that breaks after one year. Retailers make far more money from you if you buy the crappy product. They are the enemy here, not manufacturers, and not an entire country.
@truthbeknown8550
@truthbeknown8550 3 жыл бұрын
Chinese crap, needs more gear ratio, needs stainless steel well lubed gears, doesn’t need long handle at all, since it is Chinese crap that doesn’t need any torque to turn it.
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 3 жыл бұрын
Just the other day I took apart an Oster bread machine that someone had thrown away, and it had a rather nice belt-drive mechanism I was thinking about using for this, though the motor is 110V and wouldn't be suitable for this application.
@truthbeknown8550
@truthbeknown8550 3 жыл бұрын
You need 15 volts to charge a 12 volt battery or capacitor bank
@truthbeknown8550
@truthbeknown8550 3 жыл бұрын
What is the gear ratio (revolutions per crank) and are the inside gears made of metal?
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 3 жыл бұрын
I would need to check on the gear ratio. The gears themselves are nylon.
@bluetrinityhaloseven7244
@bluetrinityhaloseven7244 3 жыл бұрын
I GUESS the CAPS MOD now becomes an absolute essential for these then, to make for that 100% efficiency.