I had not heard of Devil's Dive before. I'll be sure to check it out then

@Prozeon it's very cheap, it's a small and fun roguelike like downwell. I'd recommend it

I always try to stay impartial and just express what I observe. Every game has some value in my eyes and I think this one has a ton of potential to be a really great game if its tone wasn't set to 11/10 all the time.

I actually thought it was funny at first, but I had hoped that other signs said other things to keep the joke going which they did not. I think it just started to wear on me because of just how much relentless the crudeness was and sometimes it really just felt like there was no real reason for it.

@Prozeon Respectfully agree, your VE was interesting enough to get me to play some of the demo myself since commenting, and after interacting with everything in the starting house i was bored of the 'shit's and 'fuck's. Honestly a good video, cant wait to see what you upload next :)

@@ikepcyhscore8532 Yeah it definitely could use without almost every single interaction being one full of profanity. I appreciate the support :) I will have some newer style videos coming up to round off the year, but Demo Diving will always be here because there are so many good games out there that don't get the attention they deserve

It literally hit me what you meant by that comment XD I have fixed the title so there is only one mature

I agree. I genuinely don't mind if games have swearing or adult themes in them, but it gets to a point where it's just trying too hard and you can tell it is just a way to drum up shock factor given how excessive it can be. I think this game could have some really great potential if it managed that sort of dynamic between serious and comedic, but what I played leaned almost entirely into the over the top "comedy" making it just seem childish at times. I hope the dev understands that they don't have to make every character curse on every line in order for them to be a memorable character.

I think that's why the emphasis is supposed to be the *EDGE* of Allegoria.

@@squeegel3904 Haha I thought about making that joke while writing the script for the video

I'm hoping for a hook, but it really depends on if there are some changes to the game that will make traversal more tolerable. The crude humor was hit and miss but I got real tired of the encounters while navigating the dungeons.

I think it just has an issue of trying too much to make you laugh or be surprised. A game shouldn't be at a 10 all the time otherwise it just feels like the same. The meta interaction implied a more real story, but all that was was the woman who used her charm to stay alive and everyone just used her to say crazy things, so it wasn't properly utilized. If there was a more serious tone every once in a while I think it would really help offset the forced humor.

Thanks. I do wish it had some tonal differences here and there to make it so it didn't just shove curse words and vulgarity into your face. I have no real problem with a game having that, but to do it all the time is a little much.

That's totally fair. I think a large screen is also a bit counterintuitive to using graphics from the handheld era.

See I love the aesthetic but can't stand the vulgarity I have enjoyed Isles of Sea and Sky and I get the handheld size and experience back by using the Steam Link app and a Backbone on my phone as a controller. I guess a Steam Deck would work too but I am too broke / stingy to find out quite yet

@@TheThinKing That's a good point. The aesthetic may not be pleasing to some and the vulgarity also may not be appeasing, so by having already knocked your target audience down with the aesthetic that some don't enjoy, the vulgarity dwindles it even further unfortunately. I think that is a better setup you've got than getting a Steam Deck, because I also am too broke to grab one of those lol

It is a cool concept but I do wish that it wasn't so much trial and error in the name of being "challenging"

Yeah, I think the art is great and I do like the concept. I honestly felt like if the game was more like the open area where you explore the village at the beginning then I would love it

I try to be really picky with those 10 ratings but I knew pretty early on that this was going to be one. It really is just a great mix of all components and I will 100% be picking it up when it releases.

I knew a game revolving around family just needed at least one Vin Diesel reference. I'm pretty sure it's a law to include him lol. I will say this game shocked me with how much fun I had and all times I goofed were on me and not really a result of bad dice rolling.

I probably could have spent more time speaking on the actual gameplay, but it was pretty neat. The art really is one of the strongest aspects though.

Oooo I really should replay it that way. I definitely will be making a games of the year list and there's no doubt Indika will be pretty high on the list. I think it really caught me off guard on how deep the exploration of self is on it.

Not that that will keep me from probably picking this up.

@@Kamicollo95 Haha I'll be honest that I goofed a lot playing this game until it just clicked on one of the playthroughs. I'm sure it will get much more difficult and put me in my place when it comes out though

Trying to describe this game to non-gamers, heck even gamers for that fact, is a fun task. I think this idea shouldn't work as well as it does but I'm so happy that the devs are pulling it off because it really is unique.

It honestly reminds me of a kid's tv show that has a similar quirk to it and I love it. I am just stoked to see more from this game.

@@MARStheFORSAKEN there's nothing wrong with having both. Some people weren't thrilled with the Advanced Wars remaster that came out. I'm no expert in the field, but I can also see the potential of people just wanting more after they've played the same game over and over. It's not like Nintendo is in any real rush to make a new Advanced Wars

@@Prozeon thats the problem this is just the same 20 year old game but with less fixings,they didnt even bother to make each factions units different.

@@MARStheFORSAKEN That is something I failed to mention, so I appreciate you bringing that up. Each faction does have a specific unique unit. I could only play as that blue faction, but their faction specific unit was the Rhino. It's the super large vehicle that can push other units around and if they push a vehicle into the water or on a mountain or something it automatically defeats them. They can always add more too. It's totally alright if this isn't for you but maybe someone doesn't care for AW for it's more cartoon-like graphics and wanted something a bit more realistic. That's why I linked the video made by Mangs. That guy lives and breathes these type of games and while I don't 100% agree with everything he has to say, he definitely knows more about this than I do given that I'm still pretty new to this specific subgenre of turn-based games.

@@donaldpetersen2382 haha I mean luckily this is distinct enough to get around the long arm of Nintendo lawsuits. If Wargroove "got away" with two games then this one should be safe because I think it has more in common with Wargroove than AW

Thanks for the compliment! Luckily most of the issues I had are relatively easy fixes so it shouldn't hurt the end product much if it does or doesn't get fixed.

I will say I did have to rethink my decisions after playing one map for 1.5 hours but in the end I realized that the powers that were absent would likely help those situations, so I didn't hold it against them. I definitely get the burnout status because I may have started a ton of these games, but I rarely finish them.

It's looking pretty sweet. I think the devs are keeping close to the communities of Wargroove and AW and have been listening to feedback, so hopefully it turns out well. I also hope they add more, not because there is a lack of content, but because I always want more commanders and factions in these types of games.

Glad you enjoyed it. I wasn't sure what to put for the outro but the idea to recreate my summary of the game just made me laugh so I had to go with it.

Sorry. You have a box that acts as your vision and when tiles are within that space your workers are working to produce whatever resource intended by their tile. You can expand the tile up to a 3x3 grid, so you will always have tiles where your workers aren't working.

@@Prozeon No worries. It was just a bit confusing.

I really do hope it becomes more difficult because there was one session of mindsurfing where I just stopped doing the puzzle because I knew I had built up more than enough time

I generally don't care for mystery games since it is mostly play it once and your done, but if they've got a unique pull to them, then it does a lot to make me interested.

Yeah I didn't realize that you have 5 days and the demo did go through one of those days. I ran out of time and they gave me free time because I just didn't do everything I needed to do and the game was trying to be nice. The days should hopefully be a little longer, since you start at night, but I will be interested to see where it goes for sure

It does a lot well. I just hope there will be enough meat on the bones when it fully releases.

Yeah I believe that a majority of the replayability comes from mixing the different classes, but seeing the exact same maps and encounters is something I just hope is due to it being a demo. I think it will be a wait for a second before purchasing, but it still was fun to play

You gotta look past that aspect of it cause it is really satisfying to sweep a leg and then stomp for like 30 damage lol. I specifically thought of you when I said it has the potential to appeal to more than the normal deckbuilding crowd

I think it nailed a good amount. I tried this a while ago and it was missing some key aspects, but it looks like the devs are super open to things and it's changed a good amount since I last played it, so I have faith that it will do well.

No problem :) Unfortunately anything deemed as woke will always bring hate with it, so I try to avoid ever discussing it and just focus on the game itself. I don't think much could've saved this game, though, because some of the glaring issues with the game itself would still be there whether or not it had the "woke agenda" people are grilling it for. That just made it easier for people to get clickbait and jump on a game that would've likely just gone unnoticed.

@Prozeon you're right, it looks like it has some issues, I'm a sucker for games with a lot of dialog/talking though so I might still try it, but definitely not at full price.

@@aaronvalere3832 Yeah by all means go for it. I definitely think a sale price might be best, but some reviews I've seen have said that it does have some interested aspects in the full release. I think the demo did some injustice with how much it jumped around between plot points.

I have no clue what moves they have at their disposal and what sort of strategy they implement, which isn't technically a bad thing but not knowing what they are doing on top of me needing to time their attacks seems like opposite ends of the spectrum to me.

This game isn't for people who want a more easier RPG, I hope people go play it with that in mind, it's not an easy RPG, it's supposed to be difficult, you're supposed to spend your time learning enemy patterns. If that's not you vibe, that's fine, because it's not a game for everyone.

@@MoonanaGames Not going to lie, you relentlessly replying to everybody saying they are wrong is really unprofessional. What was once a wish list and wait, and a game I was kind of defending, I'll just ignore now. This is genuinely unprofessional as all hell.

@@KhaosElement I literally just said this game isn't for everyone, who wronged you, brother

@@MoonanaGames Keep telling yourself that man, you just keep talking to everybody, and even followed Prozeon to other videos to keep it going. What you're doing isn't becoming of a good PR team. It's something a random offended Redditor would do. You're right, the game isn't for everybody, you don't have to spam that though. We are all aware. All you're doing is costing your game sales. I've outright banned your team on Steam so I'll never see it again, and while I am going to be the minority, I can guarantee you I won't be the only to ignore the team based on your actions.

I just wish it had a little more structure to it. If it did I'd likely suggest giving this a shot.

We have greatly improved combat as of recent (this is an older demo try out?) please do give the game a try by yourself.

@@Prozeon As like Dark Souls where you have to learn each enemy patterns and timings, this game is the same, once you learn it becomes incredibly easy and satisfying. It's not a game for people not searching for that kind of challenge where you have to attentive to combat to win, so I wouldn't recommend it for someone looking for a simple turn based rpg without much challenge.

@@MoonanaGames I never thought of Dark Souls as an inspiration from the gameplay. Things are totally fine if they are intended to be hard, however I felt like it is difficult to learn attack patterns without being taught that other attack patterns exist. If you did another fight tutorial with an enemy that showed a different attack style, then it would let the player know that they should expect that sort of potential in the future. I felt like some of the QTE I came across were ones I wasn't ready for until I inevitably failed at them, i.e. anytime I needed to use arrow keys. There wasn't any sort of heads up that that was even a possibility, so I failed my first one just because as a player I was never made aware of it being an option, and that is where my headspace is at during my time playing. I don't mind the timing being tricky, as it shouldn't be something mastered in one or two encounters, but I felt like I was never really given the tools to properly get my feet beneath me before being thrown curveball after curveball. As for the comments about which version of the demo I played, I downloaded the demo available during the Rhythm fest just about a week or so ago. If this wasn't the correct version, I am unsure of where to get the correct one. I understand not every game is for everyone, and I 100% understand the need to defend your game. I think it has a ton of great qualities to it, I just think it needs a little bit of tweaking to make it cross that threshold that would make me say "yes, this is a must play". I truly think you will find your audience and I wish you the best of luck as I know these sorts of things are not easy to make. I, by no means, was trying to be hyper critical and I would be happy to discuss this more if you would like.

@@Prozeon I think more than defending my game, I'm trying to make clear that people get correct information about the game, most people watching videos like this, for an indie game, won't even try the game, right? So I'm just correcting possible misinformation about the game. Did your demo playthrough have a difficulty selection? If yes, you're playing an older version of the game that isn't reflective to the release version. What we changed in the game might be crucial for this to be something you'd enjoy playing, since we changed timings for counters etc. If it didn't have the difficulty selection on the prologue, then I'm 100% open for further discussion, as I'm really invested into making this game more palatable for the public, specially the beginning, when people will still be learning gameplay XD There's nothing I want more than having more people invested in the game. With that being said, with current changes, I genuinely think that my game doesn't need defending because it speaks volume by itself, and it's not made for everyone, but more for a specific crowd that likes difficult combat in RPGs and challenge. It's also EXTREMELY satisfying once you get out of that headspace of "this is impossible". I think if you can't find the similarities with Dark Souls it must be also because you're comparing it wrongly, as this is still an indie title, with just a small team testing for QA. Whatever feedback we had was sparse, with smaller groups of testers than what you get with From Software. The combat ideals are the same, execution obviously isn't the same, this is a turn based rpg instead of a AAA action game. And so we reproduce ideas we like, like the idea that each enemies have their own timings (like any fromsoft game). Now I'm more defending my team capabilities and what we can achieve within our limited resources, because I feel people forget about that when talking about indie development. "There wasn't any sort of heads up that that was even a possibility" I don't understand this, for example, it's a different enemy, do you mean having a test in the middle of the screen popping up saying "Enemies have different timed hits"?

I felt like I wanted to avoid all combat in the end, just because of how attentive I needed to be during those sections. I would miss easy timings just because my brain would turn off in between turns.

I hope that does put those players out, we're not making this game for everyone, this game is for people who enjoy thinking in battles, and understanding enemy behavior (very similarly to Dark Souls, where you have to study enemy's behaviors, timings etc). This is an older version of the demo it seems? We greatly improved on combat, I wish people would try that out.

I needed you when I was writing the script. I kept feeling like this was similar to another game I played and couldn't for the life of me think of Paper Mario lol

It's inspired by those games, yes, but also more complex, due to us loving complex rpg systems. If you like those games but would like a more in depth experience, I'd highly recommend this game.

Yeah, I probably should've started out that way and had clarified that through the 100 levels I saw like 6-7 different enemies. I don't think it does anything specifically wrong, I just think there are better options out there like Die in the Dungeon. It also didn't help that I was basically unkillable, and I generated enough energy each turn to reroll like 6 times so I almost always had a killer turn.

Thanks. I think this video was a little looser than I wanted it to be but it was still nice to look at some of the older stuff I covered.

Thanks :) Crypt Custodian held onto my most viewed video title for a while and I'm glad it helped bring you here

It definitely could be built upon to make it something more entertaining, but it's not a bad start

Haha I imagine it is pretty true, it is just weird that they made that a priority over extra content/bug fixes.

Thanks :) I honestly was super into Hexarchy when I first got to play it, but I feel like these 4X games are really cool and then I just lose interest. I thought the deckbuilding would help, and it did, but it's still just a struggle to keep me engaged.

I think that would help as well. Just something to keep things fresh and engaging as opposed to dump my hand and then end the turn.

Well if this goes well you may be interested in the next episode :)