Battle Over Japan - The 343rd Air Group (CG)

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@GM-fh5jp
@GM-fh5jp 7 жыл бұрын
That was a really moving portrayal. Those brave young men on both sides deserve our respect. Thanks for posting.
@ludosushi4106
@ludosushi4106 8 жыл бұрын
Impressive CG, must took a lot of time doing this. Also thank you for the translations, really appreciate to see some movies/documentaries about the IJN/IJA, they are so rare.
@Glen.Danielsen
@Glen.Danielsen 6 жыл бұрын
What a beautifully made video. A very nice tribute to that magnificent new aircraft flown by the 343 Air Group and the Samurais who flew her. Worthy adversaries of our U.S. F6F’s and F4U’s.
@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦
@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦 8 жыл бұрын
[note 1] ・343rd Air Group skill (March 1945) →301st Combat Squadron  class | A | B | C | D | total  member | 10 | 5 | 32 | 10 | 57 →407th Combat Squadron  class | A | B | C | D | total  member | 14 | 5 | 39 | 5 | 63 →701st Combat Squadron  class | A | B | C | D | total  member | 11 | 13 | 20 | 6 | 50 →401st Combat Squadron  class | A | B | C | D | total  member | 8 | 5 | 11 | 0 | 24 (→4th Scout Squadron) →ALL  class | A | B | C | D | total  member | 64 | 37 | 129 | 33 | 263 class A=6 months or more from the training (expert or veteran) B=4-5 months from the training C=3 months from the training D=Less than three months from the training (newbie) {Comparison} all IJN (March 1945) A=16% B=14% C=25% D=44% 343 (March 1945) A=24% B=14% C=49% D=12% [note 2] main pilot ・Kanno Naoshi 菅野 直 →301st Commander →48 aircraft shot down →August 1, MIA 24:01 ・Sugita Shoichi 杉田 庄一 →301st →70 aircraft shot down →Top Ace →April 15, KIA 22:53 ・Kasai Tomokazu 笠井 智一 →301st →10 aircraft shot down →Wingman of Sugita Shoichi →March 19, on the ground waiting →-2016 now alive- →Died January 2021 interview = kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqnEm5KDhpeGrNk ・Muto Kaneyoshi 武藤 金義 →301st →35 aircraft shot down →From Yokosuka Air Group in June (trade > Sakai Saburo) →July 24, MIA ・Hayashi Yoshishige 林 喜重 →407th Commander →5 aircraft shot down →Brave pilot →April 21, KIA 23:15 ・Honda Minoru 本田 稔 →407th →17 aircraft shot down →-2016 now alive- →Died in October 2021 interview = kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJrXfaVreZx_ias ・Oshibuchi Takashi 鴛淵 孝 →701st Commander →6 aircraft shot down →High command skills →He suffered damage to the engine, evacuated from the battle zone. July 24, MIA 23:53 ・Sakai Saburo 坂井 三郎 →701st →64 aircraft shot down →hate Sugita Shoichi →ground waiting 15:25 →moved to Yokosuka Air Group in June →2000 September death ・Matsuba Akio 松場 秋夫 →701st →18 aircraft shot down →Flight time 3700 hours. great veteran →Forward slip 15:12 ・Yamada Ryoichi 山田 良市 →701st Commander (after Oshibuchi MIA) →? aircraft shot down →To marry Oshibuchi Mitsuko (Oshibuchi Takashi sister) →Lieutenant General in 1979 (Chief of Staff, Air Self Defense Force) →2013 February death ;( ・Hatsushima Jiro 初島 二郎 →701st →Yamada witnessed that he was escorting Oshibuchi. July 24, MIA 23:47 ・Takada Mitsuru 高田 満 ・Endo Minoru 遠藤 稔 ・Kageura Hiroshi 影浦 博 →4th Scout Squadron member →March 19, KIA (Ramming?) 15:55 [note 3] US main pilot ・Edwin Stanley Conant →VBF-17 Commander →7 aircraft shot down →6:46 7:40 he? ・Forrest E McCormick →VBF-17 →Wingman of Conant →POW 12:18 ・Robert Clark →VBF-17 →11:48 he interview = kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZSWiZ1metaUarMm51s ・Pug Southerland →VF-83 Commander →5 aircraft shot down →Fight Sakai Saburo in Guadalcanal ・Dwight Mayo →VMF-123 →Lose tail, Return to CV. (Discarded by damage) 18:19 ・John Hyland →VBF-10 Commander →Commander, U.S. Pacific Fleet (1967-1970) ・Robert Weatherup →VF-46 →Shoot down Sugita Shoichi 22:53 ・Jack A Gibson →VF-49 →Shoot down Oshibuchi Takashi 23:53 [note 4] Battle of March 19 Strength IJN 4th Scout C6N1 = 4 Leader Hashimoto Toshio 301st Combat N1K2 = 18 Leader Kanno Naoshi 407th Combat N1K2 = 16 Leader Hayashi Yoshishige N1K1 = 4 Leader Ichimura Goro 701st Combat N1K2 = 16 Leader Oshibuchi Takashi N1K1 = 3 Leader Yamada Ryoichi 57 + 4 US VBF-10 F4U = 10 Leader John Hyland VBF-17 F6F = 20 Leader Edwin S Conant VF-10 F4U = 12 VF-29 F6F = 12 VF-83 F6F = 16 Leader Pug Southerland VF-9 F6F = 16 Leader Leslie Decew VMF-123 F4U = 15 Leader Thomas E Mobley VMF-451 F4U = 19 F6F 64 + F4U 56 = 120 (engage = 67) Losses IJN US Report = 50 Real Dogfight N1K2 = 15 ? C6N1 = 1 Discard N1K2 = 4 ? US IJN Report = 57 Real Dogfight F6F = 6 F4U = 3 ? Discard F6F = 1 F4U = 3 Out of fuel F6F = 1 [note 5] 343 after March 19 (main battle) Mar.19 Matsuyama Intercept 15 loss Apr. 12 Kikai jima Combat Air Patrol 10 loss Apr. 17 Kikai jima CAP 9 loss Apr. 21 Kagoshima Intercept the B29 2 loss May 4 Kikai jima CAP 6 loss May 28 Kagoshima 6 loss Jun. 22 Kikai jima CAP 4 loss Jul. 24 Bungo Channel 6 loss Aug. 1 Bungo Channel 3 loss Aug. 8 Kitakyushu 9 loss Aug. 15 End of war... all 90 loss Loss exchange ratio 90 : 40(?) use GoogleTranslation
@ryouohtsuka7962
@ryouohtsuka7962 8 жыл бұрын
I want to add some information on the losses of US aircraft. The US TF58 Kure attack force: 30 squardron 355 aircraft. the squardrons which battled with 343 unit among them were VBF17 Hornet F6F 20,,VF83 Essex F6F16,VBF10 Intrepid F4U 10,VF10 F4U 12, VMF123 Beninton F4U 15, VF9 Yorktown F6F16, VF29 Cabot F6F12,VMF451 Bankerhill F4U 19 Total 120 aircraft. so This battle is USN 120 vs IJN 57. #important information: the losses known are 2 squadron 35 aircraft(losses 14 40percent). Rest of squardrons are UNKNOWN. So add the losses of unkown record, US losses are over 14. Newest reserch of Japanese side US losses may reach 30~40 . again US 120 VS IJN 57. US 30~40 losses IJN 20 losses. absolutely IJN victory.
@williamleadbetter9686
@williamleadbetter9686 8 жыл бұрын
I've never taken a lot of stock in kill claims. NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY COME FROM. EVEN IF THEY ARE FROM MINE. The best way to figure real kills is to compare friendly and enemy loss records for that particular engagement. Some countries at particular points didn't always keep good records. And ALL countries other than Finland OVER CLAIMED with Japan & Soviet Union being the worst but the USA did it too. Not lying just "The Fog Of War". In Finland no dead body of a plane NO KILL! I am NOT picking of Japan. I have read hundreds of books on air combat I am sure they did well they were in a target rich environment!
@theWebkinzkitty
@theWebkinzkitty 7 жыл бұрын
I read 15 Kills by the 343, 12 Kills by the Americans. Yes, Japan won this battle, American losses could be replaced the same day. Japanese losses could not be replaced very fast. Only 490 of the George fighters were produced. And the USA already had F8F's being produced and would have seen combat against Japan if the war had not ended. F8F would have gained air superiority over the N1K2 "George". I was able to see a "George". It was the best fighter produced by Japan.
@GypsMoth13
@GypsMoth13 7 жыл бұрын
+Isac McPeek I am a fan of the Fins; they were amazing fighters in the war; the bestest with the leastest;
@kaito1213
@kaito1213 2 жыл бұрын
My man really is a legend in the Commemt
@pac1fic055
@pac1fic055 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the English subtitles. ほんとにありがとう!
@NoJokes11B
@NoJokes11B 8 жыл бұрын
Seriously the last couple minutes were very touching. Got a little teary eyed.
@allanbirmantas1695
@allanbirmantas1695 8 жыл бұрын
I had to stop watching this propagandist , if well done video because the streaming stopped. How did it end? Did Japan wind up victorious ?
@NoJokes11B
@NoJokes11B 8 жыл бұрын
Allan Birmantas How is propagandist when it actually happened?
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf 8 жыл бұрын
haha american documentary is the wrost. At least we can see both sides being shot down. Go and watch the murican ones and only murican shot down the japanese aircraft, fool.
@NoJokes11B
@NoJokes11B 8 жыл бұрын
The Axis PoweR Agreed. So many people are used to watching these American documentaries where only Axis planes get shot down. Whenever they see American planes get shot down they cry river.
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 8 жыл бұрын
+The Axis PoweR well, Americans won the war, so our gun camera footage survived. I don't even know if the IJN used gun cameras, but I've never seen any Japanese gun cam footage. Even German is semi rare once you get past the one propaganda vid you can find on KZbin.
@badddkattt
@badddkattt 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this and for the English annotations. Given the views it’s surprising the relatively few likes. Wonderful animation and window into history.
@Anlushac11
@Anlushac11 7 жыл бұрын
WOW! Really dam good video. The air combat actually looked really good and the tactics used in the video were actually thought out and executed properly. Someone really did their homework on this.
@kiwikicker9263
@kiwikicker9263 8 жыл бұрын
That was amazing. please keep giving these amazing IJN videos. got yourself a sub!
@oldbaldfatman2766
@oldbaldfatman2766 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video....more than once, I thought the planes were real. Amazing how CG has come thru the years.
@litltoosee
@litltoosee 7 жыл бұрын
I commmend the patriotism of both American and Japanese pilots... may their efforts be remembered.
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 Жыл бұрын
And may the war time atrocity is the japanese be remembered also
@MiG-31893
@MiG-31893 11 ай бұрын
@@1joshjosh1apologies but I don’t understand what you said?
@user-HAX777
@user-HAX777 8 ай бұрын
И пусть Япония как и другие страны - помнит и не забывает - кто на них сбросил ядерные бомбы ☝🏻 и убивал тысячи гражданских, мирных жизней, не военных !!!
@MiG-31893
@MiG-31893 8 ай бұрын
@@user-HAX777 but guess what now America and Japan are best friends and both don’t like Russia because there are worse things that nukes over seas
@amychan811
@amychan811 6 ай бұрын
​@@MiG-31893he is implying the fact that japanese did unspeakable things that the Japanese had done against the Chinese, it is quite saddening but as a Chinese I've let the bygone be bygone and March to the bright future
@icewaterslim7260
@icewaterslim7260 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know Sutherland was at Okinawa before now. Looks like he got two confirmed Ki 61 "Tony" kills then putting him in the Ace club. He's best known for getting shot down by Saburo Sakai at Guadalcanal after what Sakai described, in so many words, as a pretty spirited dogfight. That might've been the same mission that Sakai got badly shot in the face by a tail gunner afterwards, lost an eye and still made it to his far away base at Rabaul flying nearly blind. Sutherland was killed in a carrier jet accident in '49 . . . Gambling with their lives against the odds, these guys. Thanks for the video post.
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 Жыл бұрын
Sakai DID shoot down “Pug” Sutherland, he got wounded when he attacked a bunch of TBF Avenger Torpedo Bombers. They shot his Zero Fighter to pieces. Later on others claimed Sakai had attacked SBD Dive Bombers instead, there were no TBF’s in the area and no TBF group claimed to have been attacked by a single Zero.
@icewaterslim7260
@icewaterslim7260 Жыл бұрын
@@williampaz2092 Long long flight from Guadalcanal to Rabaul. Maxed out the range of an A6M. Incredible that Sakai even made it in his condition. These guys flying in the big Pacific for hours with nothing but a damned compass back then was difficult enough. But doing it blind and in some kind of delirium from a head wound was just gritty.
@Nachtsider
@Nachtsider 11 ай бұрын
​@@williampaz2092It is not a claim. It is fact. Harold Jones, proven to be the gunner who shot and wounded Sakai, was the backseat man in an SBD Dauntless.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 5 жыл бұрын
First and foremost: Love the Shiden Kai. A Beautiful machine. Subarashi.
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 5 жыл бұрын
it is a beautiful machine ♡
@Xrodtheprime
@Xrodtheprime 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it is an amazing machine Don’t like: F4U Corsair Okay/good: Shiden Kai N1K I love: F6F Hellcat
@kaito1213
@kaito1213 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xrodtheprime me is A6M very weak and easy to burn but look beautiful and cute for me
@timdaniels5792
@timdaniels5792 8 ай бұрын
F4U-4 series =huge improvements.​@@Xrodtheprime
@nshizakyoshiaki
@nshizakyoshiaki 6 жыл бұрын
紫電改は2000馬力級戦闘機で。強力な20mm機関砲4門の重武装と、小口径プロペラによる加速性能、自動空戦フラップによる抜群の格闘戦性能を持っていましたが、大戦末期では十分な数を揃える事ができませんでした。航続距離の短いインターセプターですし、零戦の代わりにはならなかったのが惜しいですね。
@johntempest267
@johntempest267 7 жыл бұрын
I found this riveting, and amazing. It shows us that the late designs produced competitive types, and among the Japanese pilots, there were fearless aces capable of modifing American ideas of air superiorty.
@stevenvgs
@stevenvgs Жыл бұрын
I have and always will love Tochy Suppon's cgi work and his dedication to bringing historical accuracy and realism over anything else, which is the contrary to so many hollywood films released today touching upon history. What doesn't get talked about is that even though we had planes superior to the majority of any japanese planes late in WWII, that doesn't mean we were invincible, and the japanese were more than capable of shooting down our own planes. All it depends on is the skill and abilities of the pilots flying the planes. And this animation really shows both sides in one of the most historically accurate and realistic cgi animated documentaries I have ever seen. Thank you Tochy Suppon for all the work that you have done to bring these air battles to life!
@danzervos7606
@danzervos7606 8 жыл бұрын
The Japanese 343 had the midwing N1K1 and then the improved N1K2, the difference being the N1K1 was mid wing with tall main landing gear that due to shortage of skilled factory workers often failed due to poor heat treating (because Japan would draft men from factories regardless of the need for skilled workers). The N1K2 was a low wing version of the plane with shorter landing gear and more robust. The 343 had a number of aces that survived from early in the war and thus were an effective group when most Japanese pilots at that stage of the war were barely trained. On March 19th the Japanese claims by the 343rd were about 50 American planes and the American claims about 60 Japanese planes, the actual losses were 15 Shidens (N1K2) and 13 pilots, a "Myrt" with its three-man crew, and nine other Japanese fighters. The U.S. also had heavy losses, with 14 fighters and seven pilots, and 11 other attack aircraft. Corsairs were jumped by the Shidens which the American pilots mistook for Hellcats. The Franklin closed to 50 miles from Japan and one attacking plane managed to get through the CAP and drop two semi-armor piercing bombs on the ship with fueled aircraft on deck. Over 700 USN personnel died and the Franklin was out of action for the rest of the war.
@AngryHatter
@AngryHatter 5 жыл бұрын
This from the country that had pioneered steel forging in the art of sword making.
@brendonsfc
@brendonsfc 8 жыл бұрын
True, the Hellcats, P-38's, Mustangs and Corsairs rack a good numbers of kills. But the Japanese Franks, Tony II and George's with their surviving Aces made a good account for themselves. Never underestimate your enemy. Airborne and All The Way!!
@jeffmoore9487
@jeffmoore9487 6 жыл бұрын
Good documentary, and especially interesting to get the other side. Thanks.
@jeffsmith-bf4tz
@jeffsmith-bf4tz Жыл бұрын
Great Historical accurate video. Well done.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 7 жыл бұрын
343 Squadron officially lost 87 pilots and all of their flight leaders during its brief existence. One glorious and impressive air battle victory can't hide the fact that they were ultimately decimated over their 8 month existence. It was a war of attrition pure and simple.
@icewaterslim7260
@icewaterslim7260 3 жыл бұрын
Group was said to keep some respectable numbers by our count before so many were KIA though. Pretty damned surprised that any of them survived the war considering the odds at that point.
@kevinprokopenko7023
@kevinprokopenko7023 3 жыл бұрын
@@icewaterslim7260 What really let them down, as usual was Commanders poor preparations or mistakes. For example, they lost something like 5 or so Shiden Kais returning to base over their own airfield. This could have been a golden opportunity for Ki-100s to CAP and right in their wheelhouse of altitude. But no, no coordination ( they could even have trained with them to learn these more effective tactics ) between branches and poor planning.
@icewaterslim7260
@icewaterslim7260 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinprokopenko7023 Only three of the supercharged version of the Ha-112 ever made it into Ki 100 airframes though. Not sure why but us bombing the engine production facility probably didn't help. The Ki 100 1 series was left with relatively lower altitude interceptions (which B29 incendiary missions flew) with difficult risky angles of attack requiring some experienced pilots. Experienced surviving JAAF pilots might've been a little short on the ground in those final weeks of the war and seemed well placed in training desperately needed combat pilots. Major Yohei Hinoki of the 111th Sentai was one such survivor and was credited by the JAAF with the downing of a Mustang in June of '45 most likely piloted by John. Benbow of the 457th (not verified by our side other than MIA) and with an artificial leg if so. Hinoki was a savvy old veteran "Oscar" ace opposing the AVG in Burma. I would add to the article below that the Ki 100 1 had, at the war's end, been tested by the US as capable of the diving speed range of P51s flown by the 457th. It would probably lose some energy after leveling out without the supercharger. . . . www.506thfightergroup.org/missionjuly16.asp#benbow
@miquelescribanoivars5049
@miquelescribanoivars5049 Жыл бұрын
They were also outnumbered in almost every single engagement they participated on, though.
@miquelescribanoivars5049
@miquelescribanoivars5049 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinprokopenko7023 Army plane 💀 Could still had A6M's or J2M's a AF CAP, though.
@stamatispoulimenos7623
@stamatispoulimenos7623 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations for your excellent work. It is technically and historically correct and worthy to see it. Thanks and greetings from Greece
@まる-k3x4l
@まる-k3x4l 8 жыл бұрын
F6F, F4U and N1K2-J all of them were amazing fighter in the world.And pilots had been struggling to survive and to win.What did they think when they were engaged in sush a terrible fight.......
@carlosfranciscoperez-velay4362
@carlosfranciscoperez-velay4362 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing.
@김영광-e3e
@김영광-e3e 5 жыл бұрын
1:50 what is song?
@jessebaker3099
@jessebaker3099 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting, if computer-aided battle renderings tend to look thickly forested with planes. Henry Sakaida (2012), Imperial Japanese Navy Aces 1937-1945, Osprey, is a good recent pocket overview in English. It covers 343 Air Group and mentions Lt. Kanno twice. Thanks.
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 8 жыл бұрын
Osprey publishes the best combat aircraft books of anyone in my opinion. I'm currently reading Focke-Wulf 190: Aces of the Western Front and volumes 1 and 2 of BF-109: Aces of the Eastern Front. Also picked up their book, Jagdgeschwader 54: the Green Hearts of Thuringen. All excellent.
@jamesbuchholz7550
@jamesbuchholz7550 8 жыл бұрын
Actually met Eric Hartman in 1971, they had a p-51 fly in at a local airport and he was a guest. Very small guy, but was one hell of a fighter pilot
@sirbader1
@sirbader1 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah he looked like a teenager during the war. I'm not sure if you ever heard the story of when he went to meet Hitler. Him, and 2 other pilots, I can't remember who, Anyways, before going in, Bubi grabbed one of Hitlers caps off a hat stand and put it on, apparently it caused quite a laugh because it was about 3 sizes to big for him, and Hitler wasn't even that big either! Though his head and ego were...
@theblytonian3906
@theblytonian3906 7 жыл бұрын
+Rob Bader Virtue signalling Hitler joke. Everone clap approval at social 'cleverness'. Zzzzzzz......
@kagatobi
@kagatobi 7 жыл бұрын
3:40 It should be "Never before have we started a fight fully prepared," or "Nobody starts a fight fully prepared", shouldn't it?
@currawongee1
@currawongee1 Жыл бұрын
Well done, thank you.
@gora2497
@gora2497 4 жыл бұрын
So much work for this animation but so little view & like. War is brutal that's true. But the spirit on the both sides worth admiration and salute.
@n1k1george
@n1k1george 8 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind this was Japan's last hurrah - a handful of advanced fighters in the hands of experts. What you don't see is the other 98% of the inexperienced Japanese air arm still flying outclassed zeros and oscars that were being decimated be the Allied air forces daily.
@FawfulDied
@FawfulDied 8 жыл бұрын
Or the planes getting bombed on the ground. Planes can't help you if they're destroyed or out of fuel.
@Millermacs
@Millermacs 6 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? All you hear about from psycho Americans is how many Zeros and Hayabusas were shot down, so its far more interesting to hear the actual truth about the successes of Japanese planes even when outnumbered and low on resources.
@robertbuchin455
@robertbuchin455 6 жыл бұрын
Not-quite. Some 3,500 FRANKS were produced. By 1945, they outnumbered the OSCARS (though not in reliability, nor pilot-skills).
@MiG-31893
@MiG-31893 Жыл бұрын
@@Millermacsthe hellcat and corsair were superior to the zeros and ki-43s. The n1k2 was superior to the hellcat and equal to the corsajr
@ToreDL87
@ToreDL87 8 жыл бұрын
17:36, gunsight slides nicely over the left wing root, but the right wing root catches on fire instead :D
@kittyyuki1537
@kittyyuki1537 8 жыл бұрын
The distance is probably too close for the convergence distance soo probably only the right mounted guns hit the right wing root :P Edit: but who knows it might actually be a derp up :D
@ToreDL87
@ToreDL87 8 жыл бұрын
Sean Jhon Yngson I was thinking convergence as well, but if you look closely it looks like a derp up :) But none the less, an excellent video!!
@ThePlaguewatcher
@ThePlaguewatcher 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentations. who made these? good to learn about these under told stoires
@-juno-takaleon3830
@-juno-takaleon3830 8 жыл бұрын
They're the work of Tochibayashi Masaru, who is also responsible for the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands CG documentary and Saburo Sakai vs James "Pug" Southerland CG reenactment. I simply translated his work.
@AngryHatter
@AngryHatter 5 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@TheOldTeddy
@TheOldTeddy 8 жыл бұрын
Well Done.
@jefferynelson
@jefferynelson 5 жыл бұрын
Very impressed
@barthoving2053
@barthoving2053 8 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many Americans who yell : "Japanese propaganda;", ever analyse US documentaries on propaganda and bias value. The fact is that almost all history is taught from a nationalistic and thus bias point of view. That's why you need to compare different sources and find some truth in the middle. Even a researcher has the tendency to make his topic more important. So a historian on the spitfire find that planes the best, the Hellcat historian his plane etc, etc. Or at least tends to say it's not as bad as it was credited.
@DannyBoy777777
@DannyBoy777777 5 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. I can tell you've never set foot in an academic institution in the US or Japan.
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 4 жыл бұрын
@@DannyBoy777777 - Bart is all talk.
@loke72
@loke72 4 жыл бұрын
😁✌👍
@BookofProverbs
@BookofProverbs 4 жыл бұрын
I mean the difference between 1945 American Propaganda and Japanese Propaganda was no where close. I wouldn’t say propaganda perhaps, but nationalism. Japan’s nationalism makes any other nationalists look unpatriotic...literally.
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 4 жыл бұрын
@@BookofProverbs - Japanese propaganda was along the lines of Japan liberating East Asia from the imperialism of Britain, The Netherlands, America etc. It was a "Greater East Asia Co-prosperity sphere" they were creating. It was "Asia for the Asians." Fact of the matter was that they were far worse than the "imperialists" and even more racist, treating other Asian people as inferior.
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf 8 жыл бұрын
N1K2 the best.
@Xeno1001
@Xeno1001 6 жыл бұрын
Really, I bet the F4U Corsair is faster, as a titter turn, and it’s six .50cal machine guns well turn ever Japanese plane in to swish cheese.
@tyrelljohnson1122
@tyrelljohnson1122 6 жыл бұрын
@@Xeno1001 sure the F4U has a better climb but the N1K2 has maneuverability and firepower with 4 20mm cannons
@9f678
@9f678 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xeno1001 N1K2 Shiden Kai wasn't one of the best allround fighters of the world without a reason. The N1K2 was like a japanese Spitfire.
@Xeno1001
@Xeno1001 3 жыл бұрын
The F4U-1D was our spitfire in the pacific, and a good one to, the N1K2 is good, but is out matched by the Corsair by almost everything.
@Xeno1001
@Xeno1001 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyrelljohnson1122 fire power maybe, but definitely not maneuverability, the Corsair was known by the pilots who flew it and the pilots that fought it knew it had great maneuverability.
@AndrzejZ
@AndrzejZ 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful story...
@chrisparkes
@chrisparkes 10 ай бұрын
The animations are by Masaru Tochibayashi who would go on to direct The Eternal Zero.
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 7 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Why was the Hell Cat and Japanese plane towards the end both dog fighting with their landing gear down at 23:55 in the video? Is that something they did once in awhile?
@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦
@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦 7 жыл бұрын
Oshibuchi is decelerate by gear down, try overshoot. However, Gibson also decelerate by gear and Barrel roll. this is low speed air warfare... ※But this scene is fiction. by Tochibayashi
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I thought it was odd if they both had stuck down broken landing gear at the same time. Never heard of that strategy.
@peidu7875
@peidu7875 6 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the music?
@likepatsandGTOs
@likepatsandGTOs 7 жыл бұрын
Some superb CGI here!
@FilipusWisnumurti
@FilipusWisnumurti 8 жыл бұрын
Would you mind translating the Battle of Santa Cruz CGI documentary?
@-juno-takaleon3830
@-juno-takaleon3830 8 жыл бұрын
Already working on it :)
@FilipusWisnumurti
@FilipusWisnumurti 8 жыл бұрын
Wooww :D thx :D
@paulchandler9646
@paulchandler9646 8 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could do the Battle of Britain.?
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 7 жыл бұрын
How would you compare the Navy aircraft to the Army Ki-84?
@-juno-takaleon3830
@-juno-takaleon3830 7 жыл бұрын
Ki-84 was faster and was mass-produced more efficiently. However the plane was also less reliable and not as maneuverable as the N1K. The most common Ko variant had two 12.7mms and two 20mm cannons compared to the N1K's four 20mms. Which is superior? Down to personal preference, really.
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 7 жыл бұрын
One source said that a replacement for the A6M2 was delayed by both technical difficulties and the fact that Mitsubishi engineers were called upon time after time to come up with improvements for the existing design. The Ki-61 "Tony" was interesting. Only liquid cooled Japanese fighter of the war. The Navy had a dive bomber that used a similar engine. DB-601 built under license. Seems the Ki-61 may have been rushed into service. There are reports that serviceability in advance bases such as on New Guinea was rather poor. Ended up with a radial engine and decent performance. Ki-100?
@-juno-takaleon3830
@-juno-takaleon3830 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the A6M's replacement was the A7M "Reppu." It was supposed to be finished in 1943/44 but faced multiple delays. The Ki-61 was unreliable because Japanese engineers were not familiar with inline engines (almost all Japanese WWII planes used radial engines.) With the Ki-100 this was no longer an issue, which made the plane's reputation improve drastically. The Ki-100 was also lighter, which improved performance.
@douglasstreet7304
@douglasstreet7304 3 жыл бұрын
As an American I can honestly say that this was a great combat aircraft. IF they had thousands upon thousands of the war would have gone well into 1946. Truth is truth and Japan produced a fine fighter in this baby.
@kaletovhangar
@kaletovhangar 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese industry was strangled by strategic bombing and submarine raids, so even what they produced was a challenge.
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 Жыл бұрын
Other problem is the fuel, one of the 343rd pilot said when the atomic bomb dropped, they only have fuel for 2 more missions
@SharkHustler
@SharkHustler 6 ай бұрын
Very well-done li'l war-story ... *_"Shiden-Kai!"_*💪🛩🔴💥‼
@Desertduleler_88
@Desertduleler_88 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting story great reenactment.
@fredceely
@fredceely 8 жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly. I fully admire and appreciate the talents and courage of all of the aviators who are represented in this video. And the George was a great plane, as was the Hellcat, and the Corsair for that matter. Let's not throw stones. By now we should be able to respect all of the military men who gave their all for this struggle. I'm American myself, but since I was twelve years old, Saburo Sakai has been a hero of mine. (As well as Butch O'Hare, Richard Bong, Tommy McGuire, Erich Hartmann, and many others.)
@williamleadbetter9686
@williamleadbetter9686 8 жыл бұрын
Landing gear and engine failure problems were actually due in part because the Japanese like the Germans were running out of Nickel & Chrome metals which make metals hard. no chrome or nickel no quality metals!
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Жыл бұрын
And they were both dealing with the effects of low octane gas which effects the performance of aircraft a great deal not to mention the actual lack of fuel.
@アドミラルラザレフ
@アドミラルラザレフ 5 жыл бұрын
What is use BGM?
@VykassPurmanund
@VykassPurmanund 8 ай бұрын
very impressive video from a few years ago
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Shinden II would have fared against the F8F Bearcat.
@MiG-31893
@MiG-31893 Жыл бұрын
I think bearcat would win because it’s way newer.
@scarlet_squadron
@scarlet_squadron 8 ай бұрын
Ace Combat ?
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 8 жыл бұрын
The romance of the 'Lost Cause'.
@ryouohtsuka7962
@ryouohtsuka7962 8 жыл бұрын
you are blind man who can,t see the "real happened". you must study to see "my comment" below,
@crabfat1494
@crabfat1494 8 жыл бұрын
Seems to a lot of expert pilots commenting on here. Oh, and the "Whispering Death" was the Bristol Beaufighter.
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Жыл бұрын
They called the Corsair whistling death because of the noise it made.
@miquelescribanoivars5049
@miquelescribanoivars5049 Жыл бұрын
@@jameshannagan4256 Both nicknames were an Allied Fabrication. This is well known.
@Nachtsider
@Nachtsider 11 ай бұрын
​@@jameshannagan4256The Japanese actually referred to the Corsair as the 'Sikorsky'.
@joeymatsumoto9177
@joeymatsumoto9177 8 жыл бұрын
Why was there no voice acting in this?
@garyrunnalls7714
@garyrunnalls7714 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. War sucks rip to all the kia
@oldbaldfatman2766
@oldbaldfatman2766 6 жыл бұрын
Sept. 10, 2018----Strange how thing turn out. When Germany & Japan declared war on everyone, they had THE best aircraft in the world. Problem was, they were satisfied with what they had and never actually started developing better aircraft until it was too late. Imagine the Japanese realizing they needed new aircraft by late 1942/early 1943 or the Germans having ME-262's available for combat in 1942.
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Жыл бұрын
The Japanese knew they needed new aircraft by the end of 42 but it takes time and so did the Germans (Focke Wolf) there are a lot of reasons for losing the war besides that but it sure did not help the Germans never did manage a heavy bomber that was any good although they tried.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 5 жыл бұрын
An interesting presentation. Thanks for posting. From the Wikipedia: "Issen gorin which translated means "penny postcard" is a term associated with a value placed upon draftees in the Imperial Japanese Army in the Pacific theatre of World War II. This term roughly meant that the individual was only worth the amount on the letter to draft them. More specifically, "Issen Gorin" translates to "one sen, five rin", the cost of mailing a draft notice postcard (less than an American penny). The name Issen Gorin was the name Japanese officers and powerful military personnel used to refer to the average Japanese soldier. Meaning that the individuals responsible for the wellbeing of the Japanese soldiers viewed the soldiers as being worth less than a penny. In their training and ongoing treatment during World War II, Japanese soldiers were constantly reminded by their superiors that their value was that of Issen Gorin - effectively worthless." From WW II magazine Oct 2018: "This was a military that raised corporal punishment-physical beatings-to the status of a doctrine. You could be pummeled nearly to death for almost any reason: failing to salute smartly enough, missing a button on your shirt, a lackadaisical attitude. Failure to snap to attention at the mention of the emperor’s name was a serious offense in this world, and some particularly sadistic officers seemed to delight in mentioning the emperor solely to catch their men napping." Back to me: Read Sakai and others. Airmen were treated with the same discourtesy. Why such a civilized folk would institutionalize systematic abuse is beyond me. Their men were smart, aggressive, and highly motivated as it was. Beatings improve nothing. They are what bullies like to do. Not for any higher purpose, just because bullies like to abuse authority in the harassment of innocents. Ugly stuff. I honor their (IJN and IJA pilots) courage, but abhor their method. A few thoughts on Air Combat: Also, when the sky is full of bullets, it's difficult to ascertain who exactly killed what. Everyone overclaims. After war records are dicey, too, because some of them are propaganda now accepted as history. Anecdotal accounts carry the passion, the heights of elation, and the nadir of despair, but they are ot the best sources of factual data. I say this about all sides in every war. I have a nagging idea that a lot of pilots were shot dead by random hunks of lead not even aimed at them. In any aerial engagement of a dozen or more planes literally thousands of rounds are criss--crossing the sky. Any that fail to find a home in an aircraft will, of course, hope to find targets on the ground. Flying through that net of projectiles, often augmented with ground fire from Rambo-esqe recruits, seems impossible, when the trajectories and the fall of shot are indexed with the area involved. Why they--the pilots--don't all die exceeds math to explain. Maybe the gods of war ARE watching?
@loneranger5349
@loneranger5349 Жыл бұрын
Dam write a book no one going to read all that
@SugoiEnglish1
@SugoiEnglish1 7 жыл бұрын
Wki: The 343 battled to a draw which other IJA craft couldn't do. " At the end of the day, 343° declared 52 victories, U.S. fighters 63. The actual losses were 15 Shidens and 13 pilots, a "Myrt" with its three-man crew, and nine other Japanese fighters. The U.S. also had heavy losses, with 14 fighters and seven pilots, and 11 other attack aircraft. Five days later, an unofficial award was sent to 343 Kōkūtai for the valour shown on 19 March. On 12 April 1945 another fierce battle involved 343°, during Kikusui N.2. The Japanese scored several victories but suffered 12 losses out of 34 machines. On 4 May, another 24 Shidens were sent in Kikusui N.5. The 343 Kōkūtai, remained operational until the overwhelming unit losses led to its eventual retirement. According to one source, 91 pilots from the 343 Kokutai died in battle.[1] The 343rd was disbanded on 14 August 1945, when the Emperor ordered surrender."
@kevinprokopenko7023
@kevinprokopenko7023 3 жыл бұрын
If 343 Commanders had been thinking, they would have provided CAP from surrounding airbases. So 5 or so planes lost for nothing. Also, the US suffered unusually heavy losses with their dive bombers that day. 343 pilots did remark they got in amongst them and claimed 4 . BUT, I believe some returing fighters shot down of their airfield actually had spanked the Dive bombers also , so it would seem their days total was somewhat higher.
@anibalcesarnishizk2205
@anibalcesarnishizk2205 Жыл бұрын
The japanese had a doctrine before the Shiden:Speed is armour.This caused that the Zero fighters when hit bursted in flames.Shiden was armour and speed unfortunately the pilots that took off the carriers in december 7 , 1941 had gone.
@spreadeagled5654
@spreadeagled5654 6 жыл бұрын
The Kawanishi N1K “George” was one of Japan’s hottest fighters of the war. Only the elite and experienced pilots of the 343rd Kokutai Air Group flew them. 🇯🇵
@hmong_keeb_kwm
@hmong_keeb_kwm 6 жыл бұрын
Yes the N1K Shiden was Japan best fighter hands down, but came to late to save japan. It had 1,990 horse power compare to the Mitsubishi Zero that only had 1,000 horse power. It had the speed to keep up with the American f6f hellcat. And instead of machine gun it had four 20mm canon.
@deplorable_bitter_clinger7482
@deplorable_bitter_clinger7482 6 жыл бұрын
The N1K1-J (Shiden) and the N1K2-J (the Shiden-Kai) were both used by a number of naval air groups, such as the 201st, 210th, 341st, the Genzan, Tsukuba, Yataba and Sasebo (later renamed 951st) naval air groups. What made the 343rd so special was that it was made up of mostly (but not all) experienced aces. The rest were the best of the pilot trainees. There were aces in other groups but the most concentration of aces was in the 343rd. The first model George's were captured in 1944 in the Philippines giving the Americans their first look and data on the fighter. This was a navy plane. The Japanese army had the Ki-84 (code name Frank) which had the same engine as the George but was even faster and the Ki-100. Those planes also did well in comparison to the older Zeros, Oscars, Tojos and Tonys. But did well means that they held their own. None of these planes were vastly superior to the American Hellcat, Corsair, P-51D, P-47N or P-38L. And the Americans had many more of them than the Japanese had of their advanced fighters. Often the outcome between these planes depended on pilot skill and experience and who had the advantage of surprise. My hats off the maker of this. Hopefully he will make more.
@spreadeagled5654
@spreadeagled5654 5 жыл бұрын
Deplorable_Bitter_Clinger , Thank you for that information. 👍
@streamofconsciousness5826
@streamofconsciousness5826 Жыл бұрын
Morris code signs you off just like a hospitals EKG. Good stuff, a lot of work and great Models. Having the engines running the whole time should have been annoying, but it added to the intensity, and realism. A small victory, 7 plane margine. I wonder how many Pilots the Japanese lost, that is almost as important as the dozen planes destroyed on the ground which the Americans no doubt include in their 50 kills count.
@brucema8344
@brucema8344 7 жыл бұрын
紫电出现的时间太晚了,如果日本在开战初期就意识到彻底改进零式战机的重要性,那么更先进的“烈风”就能及早成军,这款战机如果能提前一年服役,那么莱特湾海战和美军战略空袭日本的图谋会大大折扣。堀越二郎如果能早点意识到这一点,那么日本虽避免不了最终失败的结局,但能让日本更体面的结束那场战争。本人喜欢二战时空战的壮观场面,尤其对乳白色机身,黑色发动机整流罩以及星型发动机机头的零式战机情有独钟,它代表了二战战机气动性能的最高水平,看上去就美观,紧凑,虽未跟上技术进步的步伐,却不枉为帝国的兴盛提供了一年半的空中霸权!请记住零战这款战机在当时的让人匪夷所思的两个指标:航程近3000公里,UFO搬的缠斗性能,即便喷气机盛行的今天,这两个性能也堪比杰出!!
@ivanramirez7835
@ivanramirez7835 7 жыл бұрын
I salute the Japanese soldiers for defending their country even they started WW2. The soldiers wasnt their fault. it was Hideo Nomo who started it. the soldiers was just following orders from the general.
@icewaterslim7260
@icewaterslim7260 3 жыл бұрын
Kamikaze attacks made the Naval Battle of Okinawa the deadliest that the US Navy ever fought. No IJN surface vessels factored as none came within 200 nautical miles of the Allied fleet. Navy KIA at Okinawa actually surpassed Army and Marine counts with 4,907, 4,675, and 2,938 respectively. Counts don't include personnel who died later from their wounds.
@riclulua5813
@riclulua5813 7 жыл бұрын
"Awesome"
@chrislondo2683
@chrislondo2683 Жыл бұрын
What software used in making this?
@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦
@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦 Жыл бұрын
Newtek LightWave v9.6
@chrislondo2683
@chrislondo2683 Жыл бұрын
@@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦, thanks.
@billietyree6139
@billietyree6139 7 жыл бұрын
These stories are told by the Japanese so we can expect to see their hero win the engagement. People don't seem to realize that engagements are fought by individuals, battles are fought by groups and wars are fought by nations. And in a war the nation that can produce more weapons and warriors are almost sure to win. In WWII the Germans and Japanese were fighting battles while we were fighting a war. We produced more valiant men and more war material than they could. This is why when the war began we lost heavily at first because the enemy had experienced men who had been fighting in China and Spain, and better machines. But in the end we produced men and machines of a quality and quantity that defeated them. The Hellcat, for example ended the war with a 21 to 1 kill ratio. The Corsair the Japanese called "Whistling Death" and the P-38 was known to the Germans as the "Forked Tailed Devil". The Germans also referred to the B-17 as a "Four Engine Fighter Plane". Yamamoto knew that once the United States was aroused there would be hell to pay.
@theWebkinzkitty
@theWebkinzkitty 7 жыл бұрын
It was pretty good, I read about this action, 343rd shot down 15 American planes, Americans only shot down 12 Japanese planes. Good thing only 490 "Georges" were produced. Also very good for the Allies that Japan was very low on fuel. While the George was a little better than the F6F, F8F's were headed to Japan when WW2 ended.
@hmong_keeb_kwm
@hmong_keeb_kwm 6 жыл бұрын
The Japanese N1K Shiden was Japan best fighter aircraft, it just came to late to save Japan. It had more HP then the Mustubishi Zero and was the only Japanese fighter that had the speed to keep up with the American f6f hellcat in a fight. The American f6f hellcat had 2,200 HP and was easily killing the Japanese Mitsubishi Zero at only 1,000 HP through out the war. The N1K Shiden had 1990 HP and instead of machine gun it had 4 20mm canon that finally gave the Japanese pilots what they were demanding for to counter the American hellcat. Less then 500 were made and after the war the U.S took 3 home and order the remaining N1K Shiden to be destroy immediately asap.
@deplorable_bitter_clinger7482
@deplorable_bitter_clinger7482 6 жыл бұрын
Many think that the Nakajima Ki-84 of the Japanese Army Air Force was the best. Others say the army's Ki-100 (radial engine Tony). Each plane had it's strengths and weaknesses. Those planes also did well in comparison to the older Zeros, Oscars, Tojos and Tonys. But did well means that they held their own. None of these planes were vastly superior to the American Hellcat, Corsair, P-51D, P-47N or P-38L. And the Americans had many more of them than the Japanese had of their advanced fighters. Often the outcome between these planes depended on pilot skill and experience and who had the advantage of surprise. My hats off the maker of this. Hopefully he will make more.
@kevinprokopenko7023
@kevinprokopenko7023 3 жыл бұрын
I watched a video by this author , whereby a Japanese ace from 343 remarked how low velocity the shells were. He said after a couple hundred metres they curved downward. Would of helped to have a pair of 12.7s in the cowl.
@davidwhiteley3879
@davidwhiteley3879 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable, however given what I have read about air combat, I don't believe the pilots would have parked in full power the whole time (as evidenced by constant level of engine noise). Also even if parked in full power the entire time, there would have been changes in the sound of the engine and propeller due to altitude changes.
@James-nq4nw
@James-nq4nw 3 жыл бұрын
I love japan from oshaka
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but i wonder are Shiden really superior against Hellcat? what are the Hellcat have and Shiden not and what Shiden have that Hellcat not? TBH it was kind of hurt see Hellcats was shot down like that (F6F Hellcat is my fav Fghter during WW2, don't worry im not gonna say this video is propaganda or something like that, in fact i like it ), but it also make me wonder with Shiden power. anyways good video :)
@freeway104
@freeway104 7 жыл бұрын
read this → wiki2.org/en/Kawanishi_N1K
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 7 жыл бұрын
Danke
@loke72
@loke72 4 жыл бұрын
Good question firs it depends on the pilot .so late in the war Japan have lost so many experience pilots, don't matter putting a novice pilot in a grate aircraft he still is going to lose.
@michaelannen4168
@michaelannen4168 7 жыл бұрын
can the music and tell us what happened. l can't watch the video and read subtitles.
@gamerhistorian7843
@gamerhistorian7843 8 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in WarThunder...
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 7 жыл бұрын
The Oscar rules the skies there, from what I have heard.
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 4 жыл бұрын
One of Japanese air aces attached to the 343rd Combat Group was Sugita, Soichi a fighter pilot of unparalleled skill. He was one of the 6 Zero pilots that escorted Admiral Yamamoto’s flight from Rabaul to the Shortlands where it was ambushed by US Army Aircorp P-38 fighters. Only one P-38 was shot down during that ambush and two other Zero pilots credit Sugita with the victory. He never claimed the kill, he believed he failed in his duty to protect Admiral Yamamoto.
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I learn about this few days ago. He tough to himself he will get honorable death to pay for his failure, It is said in the end he was killed when he try to take off when Corsair strafing the airfield
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 Жыл бұрын
Imperial Japanese Navy Air Ace Sakai, Saburo was assigned to the 343 Air Group. He knew Sugita well. He describes there events in his Autobiography “Samurai!” written with Martin Caiden. Sakai is the one who shot down Captain Colin Kelly and later got into a celebrated dogfight with US Navy fighter pilot “Pug” Southerland over Guadalcanal.
@rcwieka9812
@rcwieka9812 8 жыл бұрын
now i will have to look this up..................good ..........quiet music............
@beautifulfouse
@beautifulfouse 7 жыл бұрын
I am Shocked,,,,,,That the comments arent Disabled. hahahaha
@houraisanproductions5879
@houraisanproductions5879 4 жыл бұрын
Either you mean that the comment section is open of the commenters aren't disabled.
@mallet2882
@mallet2882 7 жыл бұрын
very good cgi
@靡靡之音-y2i
@靡靡之音-y2i 8 жыл бұрын
I feel very pain at 14:12...............................
@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦
@ネギトロ軍艦1番艦 8 жыл бұрын
There is no wheel on that airplane 14:04 It is decoy (use the wreckage of N1K1 2:05) ...and anti-aircraft guns to ambush 14:14
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf
@i_nameless_i-jgsdf 8 жыл бұрын
omg i just noticed it lol
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 7 жыл бұрын
@15:15 "The Grummans have nothing on our new fighter". "Then why are you all shot up and you brought it home all crippled?" LOL
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 7 жыл бұрын
Well Hellcat was said superior against Zero, but still shoted down
@freeway104
@freeway104 7 жыл бұрын
This show is not of Zero but of Shiden-kai.
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 Жыл бұрын
@@cardiv5zuikaku944 I wish you typed better English so we could know what the heck you were trying to say?
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 Жыл бұрын
@@robertelmo7736 5 years answer, thank you very much. to put it simply, the "Zero killers" that is Hellcats can still be shot down if the enemy pilot were skilled enough, there is even a story of 12 Hellcats attacking one zero, yet none manage to touch it, let alone shot it down.
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 Жыл бұрын
Elite pilots
7 жыл бұрын
"The actual losses were 15 Shidens and 13 pilots, a "Myrt" with its three-man crew, and nine other Japanese fighters. The U.S. also had heavy losses, with 14 fighters and seven pilots, and 11 other attack aircraft.
@boomerhgt
@boomerhgt 8 жыл бұрын
What a waste of many brave souls on both sides of this conflict ..we never learn .
@allanbirmantas1695
@allanbirmantas1695 8 жыл бұрын
It's called "war", and Japan with total calculation attacked the US, and as it turned out are all the better for it today. Had they not lost, they would not be a modern democratic country today, and I would not be driving a Prius.
@boomerhgt
@boomerhgt 8 жыл бұрын
+Allan Birmantas I am well aware of what War is you miss the point it's still futile ...Mind you America has started its fair share of wars since .
@辻幸成
@辻幸成 Жыл бұрын
ただこの巨才を惜しむ
@Terence-e5k
@Terence-e5k 11 ай бұрын
All Aces'
@williamleadbetter9686
@williamleadbetter9686 8 жыл бұрын
Except for Finland ALL nation's airforces when away thinking they had done better that what they really had. Japan & Soviet Union were the worst on this but the USA was NO exception. Yes the 19:1 Kill ratio of the Hellcat seems to add up until one examines the loss report on both sides and also considers ALL the other kill ratios from all the other fighters who kept that kind of ratio score . OH and don't forget the bombers they had kill claims too. Now you have a problem because the kill claims start to exceed the total aircraft the enemy had in service. Please folks read the book Flying Tigers by Daniel Ford he reviews this problem in depth. NO BEING THERE DOESN'T MEAN YOU KNOW MORE CLEARLY THAN THOSE THAT WEREN'T JUST THE OPPOSITE! It's called the fog of war & wishful thinking. AND AGAIN ALL NATIONS DID IT!
@lemonite1
@lemonite1 7 жыл бұрын
myth-Japan did not have many good pilots to fly N1k2s, Ki84s, Ki100s. Actually they did, why do you think they made 'em. Japan actually stocked up on experienced pilots to defend Japan against the main invasion that never happened. U.S primarily fought Japan's Navy, not Army and Japan lost most of their 2nd generation of fighter pilots but not their 3rd generation(who were in fact, better trsined yet saw little to no service). myth-Japan did not rotate their experienced pilots out to train new gewneration of fighter pilots. Yes they did, the problem was the IJN did it too late leading to a young, inexperienced generation fighting against U.S Navy pilots who were by then more experienced.
7 жыл бұрын
"Japan actually stocked up on experienced pilots to defend Japan against the main invasion that never happened." Then explain explain the outcome of the Battle of the PhIllipines Sea? Look, I know the Japanese fuel situation in detail: they were not stocking up on pilots after 1943 because the fuel didn't let them do it. And yes the Japanese *did* leave their rotation schedule out poorly: they almost always put the rotation off after what is called the "blue curve" in American fighter parlance: that point in time where exhaustion tends to get experienced pilots killed at far higher rates. So even when they did rotate, they did it after culling a lot of their best after the point in time when statistically they kept doing more poorly. They didn't understand it until after the war ended. They had a lot of pilots for the invasion, but they were mostly just like the ones around the Phillipines Sea. They would have been shot down in vast numbers, just like they had been: by the time of the invasion, the Americans had 300,000 highly experienced pilots. A thousand Japanese experienced pilots and 6,000 inexperienced pilots wouldn't have done anything against that number. The IJA lost a lot of pilots too.
@mtbdh1959
@mtbdh1959 7 жыл бұрын
The pilots who fought bravely to defend Japan. They were real samurai. Samurai disappeared from this rotten Japan now · · ·
@allenhusch4070
@allenhusch4070 7 жыл бұрын
Wow looks like i was wrong, Japan kicked our asses in WW2. All hail President Hirohito or Emperor.
@inquisitivebatman2019
@inquisitivebatman2019 6 жыл бұрын
Allen Husch Lol America won the War
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 6 жыл бұрын
US can still makes decent planes while Japan can't.
@deplorable_bitter_clinger7482
@deplorable_bitter_clinger7482 6 жыл бұрын
It's just one battle in a long war. The events of that day were pretty much a draw, with similar losses on both sides. It did show that N1K2-J Shiden-Kai could hold it's own against the Americans.
@ReKaLion
@ReKaLion 7 жыл бұрын
Terimakasih USA karena telah mengalahkan Jepang. sehingga Indonesia bisa merdeka.
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 6 жыл бұрын
Kita merdeka bukan karena Amerika, tapi karena golongan Tua dan Muda.
@deetjay1
@deetjay1 8 жыл бұрын
Like the Germans...too little way too late...
@sadaboh515
@sadaboh515 Жыл бұрын
米軍からイエローファイターと恐れられて、自軍からデストロイヤーと言われて、最後の撃墜王と言われた菅野直さん
@TheAllenfujioka
@TheAllenfujioka 7 жыл бұрын
they arent novice, the 343rd Air Group pilots was experts, why USA guys cant watch whitout talk shit? read about this please! leave the national pride you dont won the war lonely like you think!
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 7 жыл бұрын
Agree, although Hellcat is my fav fighter in WW2 this video makes me realized that Japan also have good aircraft
@brendonsfc
@brendonsfc 8 жыл бұрын
In one air battle, four Tony II's shot down fourteen Hellcats.
@williamleadbetter9686
@williamleadbetter9686 8 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt that, as kill claims are usually over inflated while loss report are not. The enemy knows how many planes they sent out and how many returned. NO I am NOT being nationally chauvinistic. The US over claimed too it is the "fog of war" problem. I have studied air combat for most of my life & have been surprised to find battle I thought had go a certain way only to learn later after all the documents had surfaced that it had NOT be so one sided. Like the Battle of Brittan, where the British and Germans kept over claiming so much they wondered how the other side could still keep it up because they thought they had nearly shot all their enemy's planes down. Osprey book are very good at pointing this out and being fair to both sides.
@Desertduleler_88
@Desertduleler_88 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Ki-100, I read that too somewhere...
@williamleadbetter9686
@williamleadbetter9686 8 жыл бұрын
***** I have a shelf FULL of WW1 & ww2 aircombat books. It's all the same every Air Force in World War II besides Finland walked away thinking they did better than what they really did. Some over claimed worse than others but they all over claimed. During the Battle of Britain England over claimed by like 54% in the end it didn't matter Germany couldn't sustain the losses it was sustaining irregardless of how many they were losing. they were losing too many but nobody over claimed like the Japanese.
@williamleadbetter9686
@williamleadbetter9686 8 жыл бұрын
Read Flying Tigers by Daniel Ford
@williamleadbetter9686
@williamleadbetter9686 8 жыл бұрын
Fr. Duffy Fighting 69th the Tony was the kind of airplane the Japanese should have been building more of and oh by the way the Flying Tigers didn't give as good as they thought they did either
@mark6310
@mark6310 8 жыл бұрын
Its true this plane was quite good but a little to late so to speak in the war.Most of the pilots that Japan had were killed long before 1945.The Marianas Turkey Shoot was the best example of untrained pilots.About 300 or so planes were lost in 1 day due to pilots with no training hardly at all.This was there last effort to stop the island hopping in the Pacific.
@leecrt967
@leecrt967 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Hellcat are getting the worst of it.
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 6 жыл бұрын
Lee Crt if im not mistaken Hellcat was better in term of speed.
@kevinprokopenko7023
@kevinprokopenko7023 3 жыл бұрын
@@cardiv5zuikaku944 Top speed yes. But acceleration would be similar, compare HP. Japanese also used Zoom and Boom with this plane.
@tfhhjh3372
@tfhhjh3372 7 жыл бұрын
Someone noticed US aircraft launch missiles In 1945
@cardiv5zuikaku944
@cardiv5zuikaku944 7 жыл бұрын
tfhhjh that is HVAR (hight velocity aircraft rocket) XD
@diademadiademoni202
@diademadiademoni202 4 ай бұрын
Too bad that the doc misses the 4 Shidens shot down by a pair of Corsair, the only time that USN that day prevailed over the enemy squadrons. Funny how much the CGI evolved with a luxurious 4K today.
@gorncaptain7460
@gorncaptain7460 8 жыл бұрын
THESE UPLOADS ARE BEAUTIFUL.I,M SO PROUD TO SEE THE JAPANESE HAVE PRIDE IN THEIR MILITARY HISTORY.IN GERMANY YOU MIGHT BE CONSIDERED A RACIST.JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT BE OFFENDED.
@鴨谷周
@鴨谷周 Жыл бұрын
こんな戦でも、地上要員が2人も戦死するのか・・・かわいそう。
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