Oh man, 3 years later and that Teton Leef 0F long is nearly $100, but the Coleman is $55 tops! Being 6'2" still has me worried about the length of the Coleman. I guess I rather a little tight in the bag then COLD at bear camp nights. Either way thanks for the honest review. So many reviews on places like Amazon show the bag but have NEVER slept in it EVER! lol.
@persona53055 ай бұрын
Thank you!! my family had the first family camping in colorado last year but since we were such a Noob, I bought the cheapest 40degrees bag thinking it will be comfortable and oh well, we were miserable😅 it was truly around 40degrees however, I wasn't aware that the degrees they advertised is not the comfort level but the survival level. anyway, I think i'm settling for Coleman. thank you so much for this review sir.
@PerformanceOutdoor5 ай бұрын
We have all been there my friend, I promise you that! One miserably cold night is all it takes!
@LordUSABless2 ай бұрын
Yippy! Lol :) I have found some affordable sleeping bag choices thanks to you. Much appreciate your video
@byah1602 жыл бұрын
We have a Coleman double bag and it’s gigantic and a pain in the ass to put back in the bag, so I think it’s just par for the Coleman course
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Yep think you’re spot on. Generally great bags otherwise though!
@mikewhitt54439 ай бұрын
Probably one of the best reviews i've seen
@PerformanceOutdoor9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@adventureswithrick80322 жыл бұрын
I agree on the Coleman bag! I have never gotten cold in mine yet!
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
A year plus since making my initial review and I still have the same opinion too! Both are great bags. Thanks Rick. Stay well!
@zulufoxx38293 жыл бұрын
Yes-this was VERY well done! It's well organized. It's objective. You actually bought both bags-sounds like you paid full price. The time stamps are also really helpful. You've used both bags more than once in cold temps. You're comfortable & articulate on camera. I wouldn't have been surprised if you had recorded the interior temp in each bag overnight! :-) Your work is every bit as good as the outdoor gear review channel.
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Zulu Foxx! I appreciate the kind words, I considered swallowing a thermometer to gauge my core temp but figured my wife would roll her eyes even more than she usually does if I attempted that level of review :) Yes I definitely bought and paid full price for both, and also really enjoy both bags. I’m planning a 4 day hike on the AT in a couple weeks and am taking the Teton Leef with me, although I don’t think the weather will drop below the mid 40s. Thanks again for the feedback and follow!
@BuellStreetBlaster Жыл бұрын
I have both of these bags and your review is 100% spot on. I use the Coleman when car camping and the Teton when I need to hike in a bit further. The Coleman is warmer but bulkier and heavier. Coleman zipper is a lot smoother as mentioned. Great review.
@PerformanceOutdoor Жыл бұрын
You see! I’m not totally full of it, despite what my wife says! Thanks for the feedback bud. Stay well.
@maxenra Жыл бұрын
So what would you think about using this bag down to the mid teens? Wearing a base layer and a good pair of wool socks, of course. Thanks.
@PerformanceOutdoor Жыл бұрын
Yea you would be money. The single digits may be pushing it in my opinion.
@DarkMarkison3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I'm glad there are people like you making this type of content. It's very helpful.
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Thanks DarkMarkison! Glad you found it helpful.
@BackcountryForward3 жыл бұрын
I love finding gear that doesn't break the bank too! I've been using the Teton LEEF 0 for a couple years so far, it's a good bag! The tip about the hand warmer in the pocket is BRILLIANT man! I find the zipper pretty good compared to most other budget sleeping bags. That Coleman bag is a BEAST haha. But you can tell it's definitely loftier. And for that price...I may have to test it! Great video Man. Just found you! Looking forward to seeing what's in store for your channel!
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and kind words! I really enjoyed the Teton Leef, I have other Teton products like the 4000 backpack and have always enjoyed the good quality at a reasonable price that Teton makes. The Coleman bag was a total surprise, I’ve had Coleman gear before but man, it is a warm bag at a steal for $50. Let me know if you try it out!
@softroadingthewest3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and you make great points. I've been extremely pleased with the value of the Coleman. I'm not a fan of being that constricted and I wish it was lined with something more like flannel, but ultimately it keeps me warm. I gave up on the stuff sack entirely after my first attempt. I now use it to carry extra coats, gloves and hats, and just fold the bag up in the car. :-)
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I greatly appreciate it. I nearly gave up on the stuff sack myself. I may use a different compression sack if I take it camping, but it’s a pain for sure! Overall though it’s really a great bag.
@jibreelnile20042 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@turtlewolfpack60613 жыл бұрын
I love the Coleman zippers, next to my surplus sleeping bags I have found them some of the best in the industry.
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
You’re spot on. Coleman has always been consistent and reliable. I still have some Coleman gear from when I was my kid’s age.
@turtlewolfpack60613 жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor sadly they don't make a lot of sleeping bags any more and some items just aren't of the same quality. The fleece liner they make is probably one of the best I have ever used though and works great to push a summer sleeping bag into freezing temperatures for little weight and (to me) acceptable bulk.
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
That’s sad to hear. Outside of my newish Coleman stove, this bag was the first Coleman product I’ve bought in awhile.
@turtlewolfpack60613 жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor another company that was a pioneer in camping equipment (they even made some of the Canadian Forces sleeping bags back ages ago) was Woods. Now the company sells cheap crap for the most part, thankfully Coleman hasn't fallen quit that far. The original Woods Sleeping Robe is a classic and if you ever find one for a good price snag it! I haven't ever seen one that the owner would ever let go but I have seen some that have been used by four generations and still have tons of life left.
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s cool, I’m not familiar with them but will do some research. Thanks for sharing!
@trentbresler31792 жыл бұрын
Great video. I own the Coleman and like you the sack it came in was hard to restuff so I got a medium compression sack from Amazon and it fit in their no problem and it fits on my old peak 1 backpack just fine. Had it in 30 degree mountain camp in a tent with my Polyester base and I was warm as Heck for the week. Want to take it to the snow with a liner and see how it does, just haven't gotten out there yet.
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Trent! I rely on my stuff sack too. I need to get it out in the snow too. Haven’t had it in colder than 20degrees but would definitely trust it colder than that!
@AlexGtheOG902 жыл бұрын
I think I’m buying the Coleman. For $50 seems like a good bag. I have Onetigris 3 season bag for warmer months and it doesn’t keep me warm at all in the cold.
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
I’m not familiar with the Onetigris, but am still a big fan of the Coleman for sure! Hope it fits your needs! Stay well.
@adang99482 жыл бұрын
I’m buying the Teton. The Coleman raised in price I don’t camp/backpack in very cold places so I think the weight and size savings is worth it.
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great bag! I still love it.
@brianmccormack8969 Жыл бұрын
I used this coleman this past spring at my sons scout camp. Got down to about 30 degrees....holy 💩 ive never been so miserable cold. Woke up next morning drove to local walmart and bought a comforter to put on top
@PerformanceOutdoor Жыл бұрын
Yikes sorry to hear. Did you have a good ground pad? That can make all the difference in the world. Just curious bc I’ve played with my ground pad setup for awhile now.
@freethinker5225 Жыл бұрын
@PerformanceOutdoor I was literally about to comment GROUND PAD I got the nemo switchback foam pad and I put it in the hammock I also have a thin wool/alpaca mix blanket and I've been down to 25 (16 with wind chill). Had layers on too but slept like a baby 👶
@PerformanceOutdoor Жыл бұрын
Nice! I need to incorporate some wool into my game. I have a couple merino wool layers, but that’s it.
@chillios2222 Жыл бұрын
I usually ditch the factory stuff sack and use the heavy duty cinch one, costs more but a heavy duty cinch is way worth it
@PerformanceOutdoor Жыл бұрын
I do the same now too, definitely worth it.
@chillios2222 Жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor the decent cinch I think maybe it was a Mountain Hardwea?r but anyway its multi purpose, coats, clothes you can get a lot in them and just crank them down but they need good stitching and straps but you can also get separate straps to compress all your kit
@anthonycastro8364 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Before the start I was betting the teton was gonna win hands down
@PerformanceOutdoor Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The Teton wins for comfort but man they Coleman is warm.
@twerkteam92633 жыл бұрын
Wow. Good video. Subscribed super fast. So tired of cringe click bait outdoor gear channels that just name drop and don't actually review stuff
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Twerk Team! Appreciate the watch and sub!
@kickboxerforever009 ай бұрын
Brilliant review, Subbed! 😊🙏
@PerformanceOutdoor9 ай бұрын
Thanks kickboxer!
@marclawson253611 ай бұрын
Please allow me to humbly mention that the interior pocket's size and location are meant to store a passport for those among us who travel internationally. In that capacity the pocket functions very well.
@gojeffgordon243 жыл бұрын
Which bag was roomier inside? I'm not at little as I was in the past and that would be nice to know if one is a bit roomier than the other. My old Coleman bag is a bear to get back in the bag too and always helps work up a good sweat usually. Maybe that is Coleman's plan! haha
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Blake, I hear you brother! I would say the Teton is a bit roomier. Just slightly longer and the toe box is a tiny bit wider. But at the end of the day it’s a mummy bag. So if you’re used to the traditional rectangular bag, this will feel a little tight. I don’t like to feel constricted when I sleep, and pull a George Constanza with my bed sheets (untucking the sheets at the foot of the bed), and I felt very comfortable in both. Several brands make XL and XXL bags that may be worth checking out as an alternative. Let me know what you go with! Stay well.
@drivestrength53943 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been debating picking up a sleeping bag but didn't really want to invest several hundred dollars on a mil-surp bag to get good cold weather performance. I'll def check these 2 out. Thanks!
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Drive Strength. That was my dilemma too, but the price is def right on both of these.
@Natedoc8083 жыл бұрын
We learned the hard way never to trust the rating on a Teton bag. Had three Teton 0* bags for myself, wife and daughter and all three of us got way cold on 45* overnight trip. Won’t trust a Teton
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Yea I totally get that Natedoc. It seems like a slightly dishonest and inconsistent rating system to use, that not just Teton is guilty of. I get it that it’s a “survival rating” and not a “comfort rating” bc comfort is subjective, but more thought should go into it. I bet it’s a tough task for a lot of brands. If you’re looking for Survivability AND Comfort, then I’m picking Coleman as my 0 degree bag in this case. Teton can do the job, but you better have a good sleep pad and base layers on.
@Natedoc8083 жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor I get the EN rating of comfort vs transition vs survivability ratings, so a 200+$, 0*F rated bag shouldn’t have you shivering in 45* overnight dry, no wind conditions with a sleeping pad rated R1.7. Simply unacceptable IMO. I’ll stick with the Kelty’s I replaced them with.
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
You like the Kelty? How compact is it? I love both these but neither are quite as compact as I’d like for multi day hikes.
@Natedoc8083 жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor yeah I really like our Kelly Cosmic 20s. Comfortable on 33* overnight, same setup as above sleeping pad etc. with me just in boxer briefs, my wife is a cold sleeper and she was toasty in tshirt and shorts in hers in a hammock. I even slept in a 40* Coleman bag in 42* weather and was warmer than the teton. The cosmic packs down quite small, probably 6” diameter by 10” length cylindrical compression sack a d weighs a little over 2lbs, for 120$!!
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I mean $120 ain’t bad. I’d probably shell out the extra $$ for the wifey for sure. If momma ain’t happy, then nobody happy!
@puddin942 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Well done. Thank you😊
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
@carmedon90673 жыл бұрын
I'm buying both of these. Thanks.
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I hope they work out for you.
@tonynoisiel77842 жыл бұрын
I have the 0 Degree coleman mummy i just got from amazon, the sleeping bag is not snag free zipper, when i am inside and try to close it, zipper catches the material and it is really hard to close it all the way without a fight..
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Dang sorry to hear that Tony. I wonder if you might have gotten a defective one?? My experience has been really positive with it, even since making the review a year ago. Sorry you’re not having the same experience.
@gertvanpeet31202 жыл бұрын
In the eighties, i had a Helsport sleeping bag...price was about 200....but it did not live 10 years...
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Ouch, $200 is a big price tag. Hopefully you got a lot of use out of it.
@nckoneru71872 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Thanks NC Koneru!
@JustinGroth-dq7de Жыл бұрын
I could get both of these for the exact same price ($55). I'm looking for the one that will keep me the most warm. Sounds like the Coleman wins that battle. Can you confirm?
@PerformanceOutdoor Жыл бұрын
Yes. Coleman is the warmest for me no question.
@sambobaggins91882 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Asking the wife for theTeton for Christmas!
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Hope you’ve been good this year, ha. Several months later and I still love the Teton.
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Did you get it?!?!?
@sambobaggins91882 жыл бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor not yet, but it’s still on my wish list. She got me a Paria sleeping pad and a one-person trekking pole tent! So I’m not complaining 🙂
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Score. She’s a keeper!
@deodorant1110010 ай бұрын
Would you say the Coleman is adequate length for someone 6'2/188cm?
@PerformanceOutdoor10 ай бұрын
I’m 6’ and it fits me with some room to spare. You should be fine
@deodorant1110010 ай бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor great, I plan to use this with sleep pads combining to about r-value 5. Temperatures may fall down to -10C/15F. Would you recommend adding a fleece liner in these temperatures?
@PerformanceOutdoor10 ай бұрын
If you have a good sleep pad you should be fine at 15F IMO. If you’re car camping and have room for a fleece liner then makes sense to bring it, but if you’re tight on space you could probably live without. Just my experience though!
@MrMebigfatguy Жыл бұрын
Boy that Coleman is big in bag
@PerformanceOutdoor Жыл бұрын
It’s huge. But man it’s warm.
@timothynellis59472 жыл бұрын
Really want to buy this teton leaf 0f. I camp in Canada during May to July.. it probably only gets to around 0° Celsius on the colder nights. Will this be too hot of a bag?
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Hey Timothy. If it’s 0 Celsius you will not get too hot in this bag in my opinion, and be really comfortable. I really like the Teton but it’s not a great 0 Fahrenheit bag (roughly -18 C). When it’s that cold out this isn’t enough to keep you warm. But it’s sweet spot is the weather you’re describing; and maybe even a touch colder. With the 2-way zipper you can unzip your feet area to let some heat release if you’re getting too warm too. This is still my go to bag. Hope that helps.
@timothynellis59472 жыл бұрын
@Performance Outdoor This definitely helps a great deal. I think the warmest I'll be sleeping in it would be during a potential summer heatwave where it's a muggy 10° - 15° at night. In which case I could use it as a blanket. Does the bag fully unzip down to the feet or is the 2 way zipper at the feet separate from the side zipper?
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear. Just one zipper but you can unzip all the way down to the toe box. So you should be all set!
@timothynellis59472 жыл бұрын
@Performance Outdoor Excellent. I appreciate all the feedback and I feel confident purchasing the bag now. Thanks!
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! Thanks for watching.
@dubo20573 жыл бұрын
The Coleman sleeping bag isn’t a backpacking sleeping bag, the Teton is a better idea if you want to go backpacking.
@PerformanceOutdoor3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with you Dubo. Unless the Coleman is the ONLY thing you want to pack on your backpack!! I took the Teton on the AT back in March and it was great but I’d even still like something more compact. Coleman is the best cold car camping bag I own for sure.
@patremagilbert87873 жыл бұрын
Woe need this
@DDDYLN5 ай бұрын
So, I'm 6' tall, but I'm a heavy muscular guy, who wears a size 48 jacket. I tried on a bunch of mummy bags, and I can't fit into any of them. Those bags were from the major outdoor retailers. Are these bags built for stocky people?
@PerformanceOutdoor5 ай бұрын
These bags might be tight for you. I would search for XL mummy bags. I don’t have personal experience with any XL bags but if find a trusted brand and try one out. Teton and Coleman both make XL or Big and Tall models. Hope that helps
@DDDYLN5 ай бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor I did research a Coleman bag, and it's rated for very low temperatures. It weighs as much as a small child! That said, the weight doesn't bother me so much. My days of back country camping are over. I just want sleeping bags that will keep me warm, and keep my 9 year old daughter warm. I'm looking to buy, primarily for emergency purposes, like my SUV breaking down on a cold night. When I was younger, and skinnier, I hiked a 14,000 ft mountain in CO. My down bag, plus Cocoon bag liner kept me nice and warm. Unfortunately, the girl I went with, brought a summer sleeping bag. She was freezing, so we switched bags in the middle of the night. I can't remember ever being so cold! I don't think I got much sleep that night. Luckily, the sun came out the next day, and we warmed up while hiking to the peak. Needless to say, I'll never camp again, with someone who doesn't have gear rated for the temperature!
@DDDYLN5 ай бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor unfortunately, due to powerlifting, and a barbell chest, I can no longer fit into my old Marmot down sleeping bag. I can't fit into the Cocoon either! I gave them to my soon-to-be 10 year old daughter. Guys like me need square XL sleeping bags, with hoods that cinch. I'm having a tough time finding one that actually meets the temperature rating it advertises.
@PerformanceOutdoor5 ай бұрын
If the weight doesn’t bother you then the Coleman is a solid choice. My 12 year old wanted to solo camp a few weeks ago in the backyard when it was in the upper 20s and he requested my Coleman bag bc he has slept in it several times before and knows it’s toasty. It has been reliable, but it’s heavy and doesn’t compact down very well. As for your body builder physique, first off props, but unfortunately my expertise is limited as I’m a pretty average build myself.
@DDDYLN5 ай бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor I was looking at the Coleman's. They look very warm. They're extremely bulky, but that doesn't really bother me. As for the body builder physique, that was years ago. I'm pretty weak these days by my standards. However, when you've been powerlifting for 2 decades, your rib cage naturally gets larger. And when you get old (I'm turning 48 in May), the rib cage never shrinks!
@heath19825 ай бұрын
were you camping with a tent or without? and did you have some kind of sleeping pad?
@PerformanceOutdoor5 ай бұрын
Hey there, yes in a tent and always use a sleeping pad. I use a Trekology inflatable. It’s nowhere near top of the line, but it’s fairly compact and comfortable!
@heath19825 ай бұрын
@@PerformanceOutdoor Do you think I'd be okay with the teton on top of a cot with no tent? the low is 35 degrees
@PerformanceOutdoor5 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest, I don’t think it would be a comfortable night. Even with a cot, depending on the thickness, it’s good to have an under quilt or sleep pad. The tent will help retain some heat but really serves as a wind block. If you layer in some warm clothes before getting in the bag you may be alright, and of course a couple hand warmers can’t hurt.
@KD-cm8im2 жыл бұрын
Just curious will either bag compress down small enough to take on a backpacking hunting trip?
@PerformanceOutdoor2 жыл бұрын
The Teton is the better of the two, but it depends if on the size of your pack and your plans for hunting camp. If you’re setting up camp and will return to the same spot each night then you’re in ok shape. But if you’re moving over big public land and will make new camp each night it’s big and will take up a lot of room. Also if you will be packing out an animal on your back you will be contending with the bag for space. So it does compress, it does fit in my pack, but does it work for a hunting trip? I say it just depends. I take it hunting each year but we have a camp with bunk houses, so I just set it up and I’m good to go. You always have the option to mount the bag to the outside of your pack if needed. Not sure if that’s helpful.