02: The Sentinel of the Fifth Galaxy | DALEKS! | Doctor Who

Under attack, the Daleks flee to their home planet. Fearing it is already too late, the Dalek Strategist comes up with a plan, one that requires the co-operation of the Sentinel. Subscribe to Doctor Who for more exclusive videos: bit.ly/SubscribeToDoctorWho
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[@fionasconstellation5372]

I'm sorry but that scene with the Strategist addressing the army was like, some of the BEST Dalek stuff in ages right? Genuinely terrifying and unbelievably intense, and the delivery of the line "live without conscience" actually sent a chill down my spine. The Strategist may well be the Ashad of the Daleks

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

It’s already immediately better due to the fact they didn’t shoot themselves in the foot by ruining their original monster in the process.

[@custommediacreations]

I love this series so much.

[@Djayscratcher98]

The kill got me 😂 brilliant series

[@shauntempley9757]

That army address is why I consider the Daleks the best sci fi monster of all time. It sums up and explains what the Daleks have been about this entire time since their first appearance.

[@jamiebowler4693]

Very nazi, very dalek

[@DalekTheSupreme]

I'm sincerely enjoying this series. With most of their stories in the 70's, 80's, and 2010's, it's easy to forget that the Daleks aren't just a mindless horde shouting the same catchphrase over and over again. When they were introduced in the 1960's, they had a sadistic intelligence, they discussed and debated their plans with each other, and they felt like a real society. When they were reintroduced to modern audiences, I feel like the Metaltron and the Cult of Skaro were superb updates of this original characterization for the Daleks, but barring a return to form in Resolution, Victory of the Daleks was the last time I found the Daleks all that interesting. This series gets the Daleks. They're a fascist, authoritarian society, but they're not robots. They're sadistic and some have their own ambitions.

[@Drethyr]

Daleks are scheming bastards like their creator. They always have been. This series makes me feel sorry for them. Only for a few seconds though.

[@mikeneale9790]

I'd be interested to know what you think of Mechmaster's two Dalek stories, Second Empire and Trapped in Amber.

[@matmagix3845]

@Lord Drum well this was also shown in the Tom Baker serial "Destiny of the Daleks" where the Daleks used human slaves for quarry work to try and find Davros on Skaro.

[@icy101yt]

when they were created they were supposed to be the heccin bad guys f5om world war two now they feel more like a union a sovi-

[@darkhumour741]

"Once they are activated we will have no further need of this base...or you. Set it to self destruct" *such a Dalek thing to say* 😅 *love it*

[@tardisollie4545]

I think the scene with the Strategist talking to the Dalek army is one of my favourite scenes in all of Doctor Who

[@timrob12]

Reminded me of: "How many Daleks?" "Billions."

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

i hadnt heard a dalek script that could chill my spine like that since "heed my children. obey me in all things"

[@therogueprince3790]

We're all in agreement that the Strategist is the best Dalek character in the Time Lord Victorious Event right? Overall, second to Brian?

[@louiswright8282]

Because classic daleks are actually smart and dont just shout exterminate unlike the bronze daleks.

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

All the planning and intelligence of the time controller type, with pragmatism beyond even the cult of skaro. Best dalek ever

[@gembem9430]

@@louiswright8282 well the bronze daleks were built for war and just that of course there first response is to kill and fire at there enemy's

[@louiswright8282]

@@gembem9430 I'd like to see a civila war between the classic daleks and the bronze daleks and see the classics just cook them like a BBQ burger

[@timelord2502]

I do really like the strategist dalek he was really cool in the two comic issues of the timelord victorious

[@mattendspiel9341]

Really hoping this gets a physical release. A Dalek steelbook would be fantastic!

[@custommediacreations]

Same here.

[@TyphonMar]

I'd buy it!

[@bakasta5992]

Yes!

[@wll4100]

I'd 100% buy that!!

[@Avengers24-sw7cv]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@MrDoctorVK]

Now.. Things have get interesting, Emperor doesn't have reinforcements, Skaro has fallen and Entity is hot on Dalek tail. Not to mention Dalek Strategist is almost on Emperor's crosshairs.

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

A massive improvement on the first episode already. Love the voice of the strategist and goddamn Steve Foxon’s music is awesome

[@paulabell8949]

Loved the reference to what Dalek stands for, such a great little nod. This series has captured the excited of those tv21 comics.

[@ayedunno3255]

You know, as a big Dalek fan, I feel like Timelord Victorious is one of the greatest things to come from Doctor Who. The Daleks can be so so interesting if it involves well-written Dalek characters, and they’re not treated as generic villains. The Strategist might well be my favorite ever Doctor Who character, replacing the Dalek Time Controller. The moment where the Emperor goes silent and the Strategist chimes in in his place? Iconic. Amazing. Chilling.

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

"all life wants something" .......i never realized how much i wanted this until i heard the Prime Strategist speak

[@ReversedPolarity]

Daleks! episode 2: The backstabber who backstabbed the backstabber meant to backstab the backstab of the other backstabbers. It's really one big backstab package gone very wrong, in a fun way. Since the comics, the Dalek Strategist is quickly becoming the most fascinating Dalek character in the history of the show. As I suspected for some time, this guy is meant to be a Dalek leader (even the Doctor noticed something different about him), but... as long as the hierarchy continues to support the egomaniac, that's Dalek blasphemy.

[@thespanishinquisition2200]

At some point in the series, we’re going to hear the words emergency temporal shift, I just know it

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

in the toy releasefor the dalek strategist, you get as close as we can to those words

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

"As the ship finally fell apart, the Strategist observed Daleks being torn apart by the time winds and reflected on the events that had let him there, believing that if he had been aware of the Ultimate End he would have warned the Emperor against it. Foreseeing a bigger war between the Daleks and Time Lords, he resolved to escape to aid the Emperor, or to replace him if he proved ineffective, and used Kotturuh crystals he’d stored in his casing to power an emergency temporal shift" from "exit strategy"

[@ekij133]

Destroy without pity Attack without fear Live without conscience Eliminate without worry

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

KILL KILL KILL

[@frankiecondon9114]

A D.A.L.E.K promise.

[@blarfnargdestroyerofworlds6710]

Oooooohhh I see what they did there now!

[@cletusmartin4628]

every time I use the bathroom after eating any bean soup.

[@starbuck1977]

Live Laugh Love

[@derekholt6522]

Wonder if the Dalek will probably have to bite the bullet and call the doctor for help.

[@lightchipster]

The Defender of the Daleks comic, also part of the Time Lord Victorious arc has the Daleks doing precisely that, presumably they will tie in together

[@DoctorWhoKage]

They have done such a thing before...remember that one episode where Amy, Rory and the 11th Doctor were forced to help the Daleks destroy their own Asylum?

[@Shadybish]

they did it in the comic, but like the comic... they will likely tell themselves that they commanded him and or did it him to destroy him just to keep their ego intact

[@uhejnjd]

I'm expecting that to happen at the end of this.

[@theentity5201]

the awakening of the dalek army reminds me of a fan animation called "the dalek invasion of skaro" where a bronze dalek reactivated an army of 10000 dead planet daleks. Kind of an interesting role reversal.

[@57305northernprincess]

Another brilliant episode. If this season does well hope we get more Dalek spin off series

[@ekij133]

More Daleks! We need more reinforcements.

[@mattellistone364]

I really just want a full on Doctor who animated series! That would be awesome! I know we have the Animated lost Episodes for classic who, but I think a new animated series with original stories would be cool!

[@ekij133]

@@mattellistone364 Have you seen Mechmasters two great Dalek stories, "Second Empire" and "Trapped in Amber"?

[@mattellistone364]

@@ekij133 I haven't no? I'll check them out!

[@Powerslave62]

Simply fabulous ! Strategist Dalek - one of the best realised daleks in the show's history. Congrats to all concerned

[@jonathaneilbeck2263]

Dalek Emperor: SKARO IS DESTROYED! Dalek: HEY, THIS IS THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED.

[@peterweeks2066]

Skaro was not 'destroyed' here, just 'lost' to the cause. Still there waiting for McCoy to destroy it.

[@badwolf66]

@@peterweeks2066 This is based after The Imperial-Renegade Civil War.

[@peterweeks2066]

@@badwolf66 what I was saying was that in this vid the planet Skaro is not actually destroyed by the Entity. Anyway, how is it here at all if this takes place after the Dalek civil war, during which the 7th Doctor sent the Hand of Omega to destroy Skaro. I also seem to remember (maybe from the novelisation of Rembrance of the Daleks) that as the Hand of Omega travelled to Skaro it travelled back in time.

[@badwolf66]

@@peterweeks2066 I read somewhere the Daleks have created many decoy Skaros to confuse their enemies so the Doctor may have destroyed an innocent world instead of the actual Skaro.

[@peterweeks2066]

@@badwolf66 I love Dr Who continuity debates. There's always a get-out option somewhere if we look hard enough! Lol. Thanks

[@DangerVille]

Another fantastic episode! These are great, and if anything the 'early 2000's animated show' look only gives it more charm!

[@youtubeaccount697]

Lol

[@LeftytheGansterGremlin]

Now I want to slap a VCR filter on it. Thanks for the idea!

[@Krishansmummy]

I didn't you watch Doctor who

[@nightshardthefanguidebrony847]

Strategist: There was a way. But the cost would have been unacceptable...to you... ye THAT doesnt sound foreshadowing at all...

[@ShadowWingTronix]

Not being able to access the rest of Time Lord Victorious currently I first thought he was just that loyal to the Emperor and the ways of the Dalek, but after seeing a few comments I'm not so sure.

[@LukSter18998]

Daleks have no concept of guilt!

[@nightshardthefanguidebrony847]

@@ShadowWingTronix i always had a feeling dalek startegist would be the starscream of the daleks

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

@@nightshardthefanguidebrony847 ironically no. Out of all the appearances I've found of him so far hes loyal to the emperor. It's just that being a strategist means thinking outside the box for him

[@DoctorWhoKage]

It seems that Rusty won't be the only "good Dalek" out there. This Dalek Emperor might be the next one.

[@themaypole]

Having just read the Titan comic, looking fwd to seeing more from the Strategist

[@fugazi32]

Where is the best place to start with the Time Lord Victorious comics?

[@keelanbarron928]

@@fugazi32 there is currently only two. And they are two parters.

[@MrVidman14]

Whats great about this series so far is the Daleks like the stategist executioner and of course the Emperor with their distinct personalities as far as Daleks are concerned, i guess individuality is the proper word to use

[@loudbrownhorn]

I honestly don't care about the animation. This storyline was completely amazing!

[@AnubisX1]

Loved it, the Strategist is just awesome, reminds me of the Dalek Time Controller from Big finish. A vast improvement over episode 1. Yes a few animation errors but the storyline and voicework more than makes up for that.

[@arendellecitizen208]

Love the nutter robot. Such a character! Actor must've been having fun.

[@Dray1]

It was Joe Sugg

[@leonhughes134]

Been waiting three decades to see Daleks this powerful! Awesome stuff!

[@Oculas2003]

Ive just noticed the Strategist has the same voice as the Battle computer from Remembrance of the Daleks

[@liamc9998]

Makes sense.

[@charliegamage8862]

Oh crap you are right

[@aaronmcmahon7462]

If voiced by the same actor (John Leeson), then K-9 is now a Dalek.

[@Djayscratcher98]

And the dalek time strategist from the big finish time war stories

[@TokenOracle]

@@Djayscratcher98 it's almost as if the voice actor for the Daleks in New Who is the same as in Big Finish and this series. (Nicholas Briggs, if you're interested)

[@Dutchtica]

Me: How on Earth are they going yo make a webshow about Daleks and keep it interesting Also me: WHAT A TWIST HOW DO THEY KEEP A WEBSHOW ABOUT DALEKS AND MAKE IT INTERESTING

[@etazeta674]

The answer was it wasn’t on earth

[@MrDibara]

@@etazeta674 Touché. 🤣

[@TheKiwiKingdom]

Wow, this is actually much better than the first episode, the laser fights, could be better but overall everything else was amazing.

[@jakem9174]

Knowing it was written by James Goss I had faith it would be a competent story, if somewhat straightforward. I didn’t expect him to put actual effort in to tell a good story, and I’m very pleased that’s what we’re getting.

[@axjagfilms]

I like seeing Daleks having ACTUAL conversations.

[@tamaledog]

Imagine this with the same level of animation as Astartes

[@TheWarpForge]

Exactly!

[@avimoses5956]

the shot composition in some of this is just SO good

[@racheljreviews]

Where?

[@avimoses5956]

@@racheljreviews idk, everywhere, the daleks waking up is really good though

[@CineScarborough]

This episode is SO cool. Skaro! A classic series Dalek! A massive Dalek army! This episode has everything!

[@lazulenoc6863]

Strategist sounds like Caan and the purpose of the red dalek from 0:55 is intriguing. I am hoping Goss gets brought on to write future Doctor who episodes.

[@matthewduncan8523]

I wonder how many Joe Sugg fangirls are watching Doctor Who just because he’s in it for 10 minutes

[@reversethepolarityoftheneu773]

5:00

[@pancho3869]

Who is joe sugg

[@pancho3869]

Oh it’s the robot

[@XiscoLozdob]

And they are more than welcome! Hopefully some enjoy it enough to join in the fun.

[@11sriver40]

Probably tons but if we get people like that to watch dw then go us!

[@martinianpaul]

Oh, my! Reminds me of the TV21 comic stories. Fabulous.

[@mastterby]

This was much better, but the shots of the two stationary walls of Daleks blasting and missing each other was ridiculous!

[@uhejnjd]

Even worse was the entity Daleks weren't getting hit at all but you could see regular Daleks falling.

[@dalehayden3830]

There's an actual reason Daleks have trouble hitting each other. Their fenders have a built-in safety feature meant to prevent accidental friendly fire, but it can't be turned off for infighting.

[@uhejnjd]

@@dalehayden3830 Except in Victory of the Daleks (and probably some other Dalek episodes) they had no problem hitting one another.

[@smiller3995]

@@uhejnjd the unclean must be purged

[@shauntempley9757]

@@uhejnjd That is because the Daleks we saw with Winston Churchill did not have all the tech they usually have, like the friendly fire mod. You could tell, because their casings got hit with human gunfire.

[@SuperGamingpepper]

i am loving this series so far

[@MrCuddy2977]

Ha! Someone’s been reading that 1960s era Dalek World book, haven’t they!? I loved that bit!

[@mangyscollectionemporium6385]

Honestly felt pretty awesome to be able to watch this early. What an episode! Wasn't sure about the first episode honestly as not much happened but now...Darn this is getting juicy!

[@90RavenBlack]

Part Two seems to confirm my initial observation that the Dalek Strategist is going to be the star of this series.

[@paulbowler5345]

The Dalek action in this is epic, brilliant episode!

[@thewiseturtle]

I wish this had been turned into a more interactive story, on an app or something, since it's already basically looking like a game, rather than a proper animated show.

[@tobychillingworth6626]

Seeing as though this is the only Time Lord Victorious section I’m watching it’s so good to not know what the duck is happening

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

if you do pick up anything else from TLV, i recommend "the enemy of my enemy" from big finish

[@tleam88]

I'm only picking up the novels, the Titan comic, and the audio dramas and I can tell you that I don't even know what the duck is happening. Everything's still very disjointed that I have no idea how everything connects just yet.

[@ShinyaMerveilles66]

@@tleam88 the reason is because TLV is functionally a choose your own adventure for doctor who. the novels (all flesh is grass and the knight the fool and the dead) are the center and need to be picked up regardless of how you started, but otherwise you can start with the audios and have the 8th doctor's entry to TLV, the doctor who magazine comics is 9th doctor's entry, and waters of mars and the titan comics are 10th doctor's entry

[@thelonggame9583]

@TobyChillingworth Basically the 10th doctor, after the waters of mars teamed up with an psychopathic ood assassin called brian to stop the kotturuh who brought death into the universe but tgat caused a time fracture which caused the daleks to fight the hond instead of the time lords so they went to the archive of islos but that failed so they fought the entity, mechanoids and the hond so they recruited an earlier tenth doctor to help them fight the hond. They then recruited the eighth doctor to fight the older tenth doctor and the ninth doctor helped to fight the tenth doctor with the great vampires. Any other questions, i will try to answer

[@veronicavatter6436]

@@thelonggame9583 imma need a flow chart for that one 🤔

[@dazlovescarter]

Please tell me its not just me but does the Strategist Dalek sound alot like Davros!

[@adversecamber391]

Spoilers, sweetie.

[@ragguss8905]

Only 50k views?, that is criminal, it should be 50 million!!!!!!

[@Splain]

The story really makes up for the animation. Amazing how well written these are compared to anything from series 11 and 12 =)

[@sheenufilms]

I know the animation doesn't look very good and looks like it's from a video game, but it actually makes sense. Rendering a 3D animation takes a long time and a whole bunch of computers and rendering farms. It not only cost a lot of money, but it's also impossible to do during corona and limited staffing. If you animate in a game engine, it takes only a second to render everything and have something that looks presentable. It can also be done remotely by renderers and animators. So please don't judge the looks of this series too much.

[@thelonggame9583]

Be careful, he's a hero

[@Chubby_Bub]

Wow, that's the “Dalekreed” at 8:56, taken from _The Dalek World_ from 1965 I love the obscure reference, and it fits so well

[@jeo228]

I love that the strategist is one of the original dalek models from the first serial with wear and tear included.

[@ethanblackwood9665]

Emperor: how have the daleks failed? Dalek: you want an answer?

[@undeadboy2224]

These dalek stories are so good

[@goldendruid76]

That was a great episode. The music, the Daleks, that big laser battle... awesome. Looking forward to next week's!

[@PapiElric]

Thank you from France.

[@BenNightHound]

This series is brilliant so far!

[@jprguy331]

Wonderful stuff! Really enjoying this series. It's set on a grand scale. More like this please!

[@erieperry8241]

I hope we get the story behind the Dalek Strategist eventually! Hes got a long-term plan in the works I know it!

[@silentcookie7261]

If that isn't a new episode of my favorite homicidal salt and pepper pots :D Love it!

[@TheCucuyo9779]

It was really something to see the Emperor at a loss. A "humanizing" moment. I felt bad for him. And then the speech to the Dalek army. Absolutely chilling.

[@roytait629]

Story showing great drive . Thrilling stuff and very loud

[@UnclePhil2k]

All those eye stalks, and Daleks are still incredibly short sighted.

[@adamburke4738]

I'm loving the music for this series, very retro and classic series feeling to it.

[@adriandavies927]

Great stuff, really enjoyed it and looking forward to the next episode.

[@LongingString]

7:46 pretty sure that’s an attack of the clones reference lol

[@Powherkrangunch]

Really cool animation. It's interesting to learn about the Dalek's challenges in their battles and how their arrmies are assembled.

[@MeatballMusic]

So doctor who I just wanna say one I met a lot of the actors at Chicago tardis like McCoy and hienz it was cool and two thanks for such a good show!

[@AndrewHsieh96]

After watching the second episode of Daleks, I have to say that it's so... epic. Well done, James Goss!

[@norahkiereri4085]

Such as treat! Thank you.

[@awesomedynamite]

Daleks Are so cool keep up the work Who

[@2429Ryanspeer]

I'm really enjoying this so far a cant wait for more

[@gbeebe]

*this is what happens when the modelers can't agree on a base shader.

[@Itaskashowstable100]

Agreed

[@mikeshmit1363]

this is what happens when BBC makes something animated

[@duskysnow6925]

“But it’s free therefore quality doesn’t matter especially in a pandemic” says the people unaware that the BBC are funded by a government and our taxes, along with the fact that other animators on this platform have made shows far better with no budget under worse conditions. Take this as criticism; This is an unfinished mess from my point of view... is what I want to say but the amount of effort clearly shows. Infinity Quest and Dreamland looked better than this because at least they didn’t look as if they were filmed on a CoD cam in theatre mode by a 5 year old

[@mikeshmit1363]

at least dreamland looks like a video game cutscene.

[@Itaskashowstable100]

Dreamland, Infinite quest, and Shada’s animation is so subpar.

[@garyhewitt886]

This is so good.

[@JamifyYT]

Notice how the likes/dislike ratio is normal for those subbed to the newsletter - the true fans enjoy this! Appreciate the fact it’s a FREE animation (besides the animation and plot is amazing anyways!)

[@Splain]

The likes to dislikes were pretty decent on the last one when it was public. The animation isn't exactly up to standard I think this is something that should be criticised so improvements can be made for future animations =) As far as I'm concerned its decent enough and gets the story across.

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

@@Splain agreed. I don’t normally knock animation because there’s no right or wrong way to do it.

[@badwolf66]

Another great episode! This has a classic series feel to it while feeling like NuWho at the same time.

[@android65mar]

Dalekicious, excellent! Really enjoying this series!

[@Daldi564]

Awesome. This is how you write the Daleks

[@cyberfox9713]

This looks amazing

[@darkwoods1954]

I wish you'd gotten the guy who did the Doctor Who anime ten or so years ago to animate this.

[@ItzBubblez]

the part where they revealed all the daleks in the warehouse reminded me of that scene from kerblam where they reveal all the postmen lmao

[@loudeclercq]

Great !!! I loved this episode!!!

[@twilightnite13]

You know... I actually thought the strategist would've taken the deal of the Entity, I didn't think he'd remain loyal for more power.

[@carywoodward9030]

That was absolutely fantastic

[@evancunningham]

Well, Now I HAVE To Watch Episode 1 Since I Have Early Access. Looks Like I'm Binging Tonight!

[@themaypole]

Can half hour be considered a binge ?

[@evancunningham]

@@themaypole Its A Mini Binge

[@jeddcabreza6523]

8:56 A near reference to the Dalekreed (Dalek Creed)

[@veronicavatter6436]

Aww them shooting back and forth looks like Christmas!

[@tommyfox854]

Only 2 episodes into this and I'm well hooked on this; at least we get to learn more about The Doctor's greatest foe. Also I find it quite terrifying that the rusty Dalek had a red eye when he ordered the Maximum Extermination, like the desire to save his/her/its race no matter what is so grand that it fisically shows.

[@blarfnargdestroyerofworlds6710]

The dalek with the red eye was the dalek executioner, not "the rusty dalek" who I assume refers to the dalek strategist, the dalek executioner has always had a red eye, it's a shame we probably won't see the dalek executioner after this.

[@tommyfox854]

@@blarfnargdestroyerofworlds6710 oh, thanks for telling, I didn't know that; both the red eye thing and that Daleks have executioners. Have a nice day. =)

[@blarfnargdestroyerofworlds6710]

@@tommyfox854 No problem, I re-watched and can see how you could think it was the strategist, I hope you also have a good day. :)

[@rollmeister]

Keep making more episodes.

[@fugazi32]

Absolutely loving this series and the 60s comic strip vibe! Everything I wanted as a kid!!!!

[@Michelle_Schu-blacka]

I didn't know there was some Who to keep the cravings in check. Gonna get started on these tomorrow.

[@tommlast1881]

Really good episode, voice actors nailed it. Chilling.

[@kevinhill4904]

Another great episode

[@astrochaos4182]

Woah woah woah wait.. isn’t it a bit of a coincidence that the Dalek army looks like the Red Dalek from Dr Who and the Daleks?

[@Alan1701b]

Wow! That was great! Great job DW team! Can I assume that the army of 10,000 Daleks is the very same army that the Doctor, his friend Jo Grant and their Thal allys left frozen on Spiridon in "Planet of the Daleks"? Anyway, I thoughly enjoyed that and very much looking forward to Episode 3 next Thursday!

[@DiamondYT1]

This is amazing.

[@zomi8354]

Allons-y!

[@tristansteinbomer3256]

Allons-y alonzo

[@scerdy3]

Dalek = salt shaker + toilet plunger + egg beater + screwdriver handle.

[@pa8606]

Thanks for the preview *hand raises*

[@michelecastellotti9172]

This entity is just sooooooooooo sassy, i love it. Better than anything the last season/s has thrown at us lately.

[@securityofficerthefonz5835]

Every time we get an upward shot of the Dalek Strategist, I always notice his neck rings have no bottom, I wonder if that's a case of flipped normals being culled out.