048 - Panavia Tornado

[@DAGO58]

I love the Tornado, thank you for this! Who else would like to see the Tornado on DCS? 👍

[@MongooseTacticool]

Yes, seeing as there's a bunch of Tornado parts on ebay right now ripe for a sim pit. :)

[@SimDeck]

Yep, and let Heatblur make it. After what they have done with the Viggen and the Tomcat the Tornado would be superb!

[@MongooseTacticool]

@@SimDeck they certainly make quality modules. I'm no coder but I think the tomcat code technology would be a good base for it. (2 seat, swing wing, twin engine). The Tomcat is amazing, when I fly it I can't stop grinning lol.

[@SimDeck]

@@MongooseTacticool Yep, same here. It's going to take me a long time to learn the Tomcat. I love the older technology in these jets. I think you're right about the crossover of code. They are clearly way ahead of any of the other publishers.

[@MongooseTacticool]

@@SimDeck Have you been in the rear seat yet?

[@datro864]

I was a mechanic on GR4s. The comment about lack of a ladder made me chuckle. You would quickly learn the technique of climing up the droptank and onto the wings when you needed to get upstairs. Was always far quicker and easier than finding a set of steps.

[@ligmaboo]

Jell-o since your a naval aviator it’s not expected for you to know already, but never feed the trolls on the internet- your above them (literally :) )

[@flyboyjoey]

1:00:45 As a Cookie in a UK RAF re-enactment group I can attest to this. Love the "Tonka" so much, grandad used to be a fitter on them and he had quite a few stories.

[@pontiacGXPfan]

Tornado.............more Tornados were downed during Desert Storm than any other airframe in theater. They performed one of the most dangerous (read: death wish ensured) missions in existence: runway denial.

[@Mightymamba]

As a brit, Cameron is a legend as far as I'm concerned and If I ever met him I'd buy him a drink and get some more stories out of him. I also love the Tornado It's such a great looking aircraft and the weapons it could carry are awesome. Again thanks for this podcast and I will always look forward to listening.

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

Thanks, Scott!

[@Mightymamba]

@@FighterPilotPodcast You are welcome and also yes for getting Wags on, I also play the DCS and I'm not sold on acquiring the F-16C but I'll look into it.

[@s2korpionic]

@@Mightymamba You could always try BMS to see if you're into the Viper.

[@SimDeck]

I really enjoyed that interview. A really fascinating insight. My dad served in the RAF for 25 years so when I was a kid I was based on RAF bases throughout my whole childhood. The highlight was 3 years in Germany at RAF Laarbruch where I got to see Tornado, Buccaneers, Phantoms and Jaguar almost every day. Thank you so much. All the best.

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

You're welcome! Thanks for sharing a few details--always enjoy connecting with listeners.

[@halohead318]

That intro was epic! attacking an airfield low level and in perfect runway direction sounds pretty suicidal, hats off to the guys who did it in GW1. Amazing interview, also the extra work on sound improvement really paid off imo

[@realQuiGon]

My most favorite aircraft! Didn't expect it here so quickly! You guys are doing an outstanding job and I'm really enjoying your content. Keept it up! Greetings from Germany :)

[@Dan20q]

Yes, with multicrew in DCS it will be amazing

[@jared9191]

I love the international aircraft! The Rafale interview was great, and hearing about the Tornado was very well done !

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

More are on the way!

[@andrewchr]

Regarding the hateful comments: The more popular you get the more trolls you will have. thats just how it works on YT :p A good tool to use on individual trolls is the "hide user from channel" button which is basically a shadowban; the troll will still think he is able to comment on your video but nobody (including the channel owner) will see their comments.

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

Yep, familiar, thanks. I just couldn't resist commenting.

[@mississippirebel1409]

Great interview! It's always good to listen to other pilots from different countries and how they compare their stuff to our, plust tactics. The first time I hear and saw the Tornado was when I was watching tv during Desert Storm when I was a kid. I ended up joining the US army and spent 11 yrs in (2000-2011). I ended up doing one tour in Afghanistan (2003) and two in Iraq. I believe it was first tour in Iraq in 2005-06' when one of our fighters, I can't remember what type but i'm guessing it was a F-15E because there were two pilots and it flew into a really bad sandstorm near where I was stationed in Iraq. Well something went wrong with their aircraft and they had to eject. We had to go help look for them because the sandstorm was so bad. One pilot was found that later that day caught on a barbed wire fence. The sandstrom was so bad that it just dragged him for a god knows how long until he was caught on the fence. They said it wasn't the ejection that killed him. The other pilot was found in the desert several miles away and he had also died. I'm sure there are some people in here that have been in Iraq and have seen a sandstorm over there, they can be really bad and last for days. It had to be the wind from the storm that threw them around like rag dolls that killed them. Both pilots were still attached to their parachutes when their bodies were found.

[@kaiusernameisbetter2522]

Thanks for serving

[@Aeronaut1975]

I just discovered your channel a few days ago and have been bingeing every episode in order, got a few friends listening to your channel. We all love your content! Tornado is one of my favourite aircraft ever. I hope somebody makes a module for it in DCS World!! It'd be great to try and drop JP233 a runway without being shot down... at night... :)

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

You listening Matt Wagner?!

[@TheWatson83]

Yes please Tornado in DCS would be a dream, Along with Mig eater paint scheme

[@Topgunphoto]

One of my favorite aircraft and have been lucky enough to live near a base where the RAF, GAF and Italian AF stop through on their way to Red Flag. Reminds me back of the SAC days at this base in my teens when the FB-111's were based here at KPSM.

[@delta1691]

Hello to the fighter pilot pod cast crew! Just discover your UNIQUE podcast, finally someone did produce a quality product on military aviation . Currently Binging all episodes... As a suggestion if you can find any pilots how trained with the former east german aggressor squadron. Again good job and thank you for your service !

[@stewdickson]

I dunno about trash but the Tornado is low level excellence. Great show, loved it. The buddy lasing pod that the Buccaneers used in GW1 was called the Pave Spike.

[@s2korpionic]

Hell yeah! Glad to see even real pilots having a hard time with A2A refuelling.

[@mark64griffin20]

Hi Jell-o I understand you’ve just been to the 50th anniversary of topgun. My father was in the Royal Navy for 25 yrs , serving in the Fleet Air Arm. In 1968 he , along with some other Brit aviators , did a tour with the USN based at Miramar. While there they took part in the setting up of Topgun. He and others have done at least one re- union but on this occasion he was unable to go. One fellow Brit , who lives in the states, declined to go because the British involvement appears to have been ‘air brushed out’ of Topgun history. This appears to be a great shame. Regards Mark.

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

Thanks for the comment, Mark. I recently finished Dan Pedersen's book "Top Gun; An American Story." He spoke of Brits on exchange in Miramar at the time and how the officers of the two nations collaborated and worked well together, as we have since the Revolutionary War through to today. I lend no credence to some conspiratorial effort to rewrite history for no clear purpose. In reading the book, it is my assessment that the involvement was not significantly causal to the forming, or the success, of TOPGUN. My two cents.

[@mark64griffin20]

Hi Jello Thanks for your speedy reply ! Dan Peterson is a name I do remember. I do know that the brits thoroughly enjoyed their time at Miramar and certainly found the experience very rewarding. As a family, we would happily have stayed on in California, sadly my father had to come home and carry on his career in the UK. What’s not to like about San Diego ?! Fantastic channel, well done to all concerned. Regards Mark.

[@TechGamer45]

There was a TV pilot [ as in one off] episode based on the Tornado F2 in the 90's I think.

[@craigybhoy978]

Yes Strike force, it wasn't that good but I remember it, was the Tornado F3 I'm sure

[@richardvernon317]

@@craigybhoy978 Yep, shown in late 1995. Tornado F Mk 3 was the type and the show was absolutely dire!!! Most likely the worst drama made about the RAF ever!!!!

[@Pricklyhedgehog72]

Another informative interview, and nice to learn about differentiating the role function of specific aircraft, their strengths and weaknesses, from those trained to fly them.

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

Thanks!

[@mxcollin95]

Please disregard any stupid negative comments because your channel is absolutely awesome! 👏 Please keep up the great work!

[@terryboyer1342]

Can't remember what magazine it was but they had a lot of Tornado nose art from the first gulf war. There were some pretty good ones.

[@Planehazza]

Was always my favourite jet as I grew up, until I discovered the F-16 :D

[@spookyNorbert]

Ahhhh... Viper! It's a dope. The best looking fighter aircraft ever made. As sexy when standing on the ground as when flies! Soft and gentle almost organic yet aggressive lines and curves. Oh Mama!

[@steviebeats]

Great interview on the Tornado, cheers

[@calicheese3]

Excellent show! Between the Fighter Pilot Podcast and Aircriew Interview I just can't get enough! Keep up the great work! Also, for a popular culture reference, there is a movie called Blue Tornado with Dirk Benedict (of A-Team fame). Its a sci-fi movie that was filmed alongside the Italian Air Force and features lots of Tornado and F-104 flying and footage.

[@ja37d-34]

Lovely to hear, started to listen through the episodes, great to have at the gym! Tornados look really cool, got an image in my head from some action in Red Storm Rising when they swept in and fucked off after obliterating some red tanks.. Sounds kindasimilar to our AJ 37 Viggens in some aspects.

[@svanimir666]

After Tomcat this is my favorite jet... Love your channel.. Hi from croatia!

[@citizenblue]

Man, that intro! Metal!

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

My favorite intro of all episodes.

[@xJAWAx]

Maybe I'm late on this, but I really had no clue there was a difference between ordinance and ordnance. Wow.

[@seancrumby3241]

Tornado, was a great platform also really like the Jaguar

[@andrewchr]

5:10 There was an incident in North Cyprus back in 2019 where an S-200 missile that was shot against an Israeli F-16 over Syria missed. The missile's self detonation mechanism did not work, resulting the missile gliding all the way to North Cyprus and exploding 60 feet from the ground over the mountains. Thank God there were no casualties.

[@bret9741]

NNTR… as always I’m reminded of all the truly amazing people all over the world. I WISH THE NEWS WOULD FOCUSE MORE ON GOOD things and the incredible people all over the world.

[@spacebear49]

"Norfolk Land Shark"... I love it. I remember getting a toy Tornado when I was a kid, and being an American, thinking it was a ridiculously inaccurate toy F-14... 😁

[@Ha11yw00d]

A wild WAGS appears

[@davidgleinbach7316]

Wet or dry wings_? When did they get Laser designators/oem ? Did you toss bombs?At what altitude? Out.

[@weekendjail1417]

I'd love to hear (if you are willing/able) some stuff from pilots former Warsaw Pact countries that are now in NATO, e.g. Poland which was and is still using the MiG-29 and is now also using the F-16, as well as SU-22 (SU-17) for Ground Strike and SEAD, etc. Would be very interesting to hear about the transition into NATO and how that was on the Pilots. I also read that they are looking at purchasing F-35s. There's not much out there about that whole topic at all, let alone in English. Anyway, I'm glad I found this podcast... you should definitely have more subscribers. Keep it up.

[@NigelJames87]

Great show. Keep them coming.

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

It's certainly much easier to keep them coming with help of our Patreon supporters! (www.patreon.com/ftrpltpdcst)

[@phlupple]

00:39:28 "Our tactics generally were 'run away bravely'" - Can't believe that didn't get a chuckle out of you Jell-o

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

Must have been napping!

[@Beretta249]

Pop culture Tornado: the Ace Combat series has had them pretty much every game since AC2. Great low-level rocket, but not agile at all and didn't have a great stall speed. Did get clusterbomb dispensers as a unique special weapon and those were pretty good. Had some utility as a decent F/A aircraft; you could use it like an A-10 while also having enough forward speed for some basic pursuit n shoot -but not anything like a next-gen aircraft like the F35. The lazy mechanics/quirks of gaming being what they are clusterbomblets were really effective against surface vessels. They chewed up Destroyers and Cruisers quite well.

[@LegionOfEclaires]

As a naval aviator, how is life for pilots aboard a ship and does it differ much from the average sailor apart from the obvious job specific duties like pilots getting to fly etc. What is day to day life like? And on a typical deployment, how often do you fly? Do you fly every day or do you have some days where instead of flying you're doing some sort of training in a classroom-like environment? Thanks and keep up the great work fellas!

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

Have you watched the PBS Carrier series from 2008? It chronicles the USS Nimitz 2005 deployment and answers all these questions.

[@meertenwelleman6249]

The Netherlands also dropped out of the project and bought the F-16 instead.

[@paulmillard1130]

The F3 had auto wing sweep.

[@richardvernon317]

RAF disabled it for some reason!!! RSAF ADV (F Mk 3) did use it however.

[@sichere]

Saudi ones did but not the RAF as they considered that they could fly the aircraft better using manual sweep.

[@harri9885]

Got to love the Brits. I remember watching the first gulf war as referenced here on a Salora satellite antenna and tuners to Astra at the time. Sky news. We didn't know! WE DIDN'T KNOW! ! ;)

[@ray4lsd]

Pop culture wise at least for us germans it was arround the Kosovo war, due to the tornado being the first german aircraft engaged in the angry aspect of combat since ww2.

[@TheWatson83]

Flew with this guy in DCS world. Lovely bunch of chaps. Great interview.

[@isamjaser5067]

A potent weapon system built on WWI tactics , not as good for high missions .

[@Scoobydcs]

MRCA must replace canbera again

[@sarahsutherland7647]

Here’s a cool article and video on the Mach loop in Wales, with a Hornet passing through www.avgeekery.com/watch-canadas-norad-tribute-cf-18-fly-the-mach-loop/

[@michaeldenesyk3195]

ECR = Electronic Combat / Recon

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

Thanks!

[@mobiuszero1018]

One,don't pay any mind to the trolls,Jell-o...Something Something Don't feed the trolls. And also,As far as the tornado goes,a little tidbit:There is this little sci-fi show back in the day called "Invasion Earth" that has some nice Tornado footage. And there is another fighter plane that has thrust reversers:The AJS-37 viggen made in sweden by the SAAB company-(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_37_Viggen) P.S:Are you gonna try and get someone who flew for the swedes on the show anytime soon Jell-o? P.S 2:"Invasion Earth"-en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion:_Earth_(TV_series)

[@FighterPilotPodcast]

Thanks, Mobius. Yes, I have a Gripen pilot lined up--will have to work on a Viggen driver.