$1,000 vs $3,700 Wheels and Tires | HiLow

[@david_champa6265]

All I'm learning with this series is that I really want a Z.

[@game0wl]

I'm currently Z shopping. Either this or a Miata.

[@david_champa6265]

@@game0wl Can't go wrong either way. Best of luck to you my dude

[@game0wl]

@@david_champa6265 Thanks likewise!!!

[@shubhranshjamwal]

David_ Champa Goddamn son!

[@moddedt7414]

Don’t pay more than 9000 for one we need to keep the prices down! I’m also looking and 13000 will get you a nice z but really it should only be 9000. Dealers are greedy.

[@jj481012]

"For all your wheel, tire, and suspension needs..." -wait, wrong channel.

[@supermcbrian]

Close enough. Most of us are prolly subbed to them too

[@edgaru4324]

Ye yeee

[@christianhaykus452]

Fitment Industries?

[@supermcbrian]

Christian Haykus yep

[@lukesites2457]

😂😂

[@mitchhouston3318]

I think the final question, instead of “Does more money = more better” because 99% that answer will be yes, the question should be “Is more money worth it”

[@brandonmiller9155]

I’d believe in doing the best of both. So cheap rims and expensive tires. Because the rims matter a lot less than the tires in terms of performance. 4 pounds isn’t that much of a difference when you’re running a stiffer/lower set up, whereas if you max out your usable grip you’re going to have a much more noticeable improvement

[@ALittleBitOfGay]

Brandon Miller but at the same time, if they hit a big pothole or something, the better wheels (and probably the OEM wheels) MIGHT bend, whereas the cheaper ones will definitely bend and could crack. So not only are the more better ones safer, but if you live in a hole-y area, then you could end up saving money over the years.

[@enr1que21]

*IRS enters the chat *

[@hayhay7789]

You’re overthinking a joke

[@Boz196]

gear head you gotta go somewhere in the middle

[@Dankboi420]

Next: $100 subwoofer vs $1000 sound system+$30 vape juice

[@blackonblack...9244]

There is a huge difference between good sound system and bad sound system. No vape juice though. I have a 1000W AMP JL Audio (the one that claims it will never oveheat and 2 8' Subs from JL Audio. That setup alone is quality.

[@enlightenedidiot9552]

Cheap subwoofers sound like crap. But you don't have to spend $1000+ to get quality. My powered sub is from Rockford Fosgate. It is a 12 inch Punch woofer with a 300 watt rms mono amp. Great bass in my truck.

[@AFlyingCookieLOL]

@@enlightenedidiot9552 Let me correct that. Poorly designed subwoofers sound like crap. Price is not a sure determination of performance. SPL in a car is easy and 250-300$ sub can give JL and fosgate a run for it's money. Most "Car" subs are overpriced because of branding. You can hit 130dB with just 300Ws with the right woofer and still get deep bass

[@aceproduction99]

@@enlightenedidiot9552 Rockford fosgate will always be a high end quality brand

[@enlightenedidiot9552]

@@aceproduction99 I agree... Punch baby!

[@Eeter26]

Nolan: touches rim Rim: minecraft anvil noise

[@unphxsed4014]

I want to Die 💀💀💀

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

12:14

[@aaronforward1004]

Bruh 😆

[@matthewhalfmoon3582]

I want to Die o

[@matthewhalfmoon3582]

I want to Die o

[@marksalinas451]

James trying to explain tire measurements literally killed me

[@2smokeHennerz]

Same lmso

[@lukehumphrey7517]

To those thinking cheap wheels are always bad: you are *sleepin* on flow-formed Konigs. Made on the same production line as Enkei flow-formeds, they are just as light and are half the price.

[@matthew_natividad]

And rays?

[@Gerarghini]

matthew natividad rays are expensive as shit wtf

[@nalsra0]

@@justinhedrick2906 rotiforms>

[@johnnymatias3027]

Dude, I can't even find 17in wheels lighter than the Konigs rn. I'm looking at dekagrams or countergrams because i like how they look, both just under 17lbs. The hypergrams are the lightest @ 16.33lbs for 17x8s. TSW Bathursts are 17lbs, nothing else compares that I've found. The Konigs are around 220, the Bathursts around 330.

[@Coderedpirate]

@@johnnymatias3027 Get the hypergrams, I think they look sexy. I got Konig Rennforms on my car and tbh they're alright, but they're my first set of wheels so I didn't expect to get it perfect the first time

[@Carlisho]

The different suspension kinda invalidates this test.

[@bitedebamboulamarron9305]

yes

[@adolfocastillo5467]

Thats the whole point of this . Expensive vs cheap.

[@michaelmcafferty9837]

Did you miss the whole point of this series bud? Low budget vs high budget

[@KianCortada-Covarrubias]

@@michaelmcafferty9837 low vs high "wheels and tires" not suspension system bud

[@michaelmcafferty9837]

K C you’re still missing the whole point of the series if you could actually read lmao, one car has cheap parts hence the LO car, the other has expensive part hence the HI car. The whole point of the series is to figure out if more expensive actually means better and in most cases yeah. Just thought you would need some more simpler explaining since you don’t get it

[@streetCan]

probably the first sponsor shout out I listen with consideration

[@yahyaq.3893]

What are you doing here lol.

[@solitude2871]

Ur an imposter

[@5cylinderdreamz]

Yeah

[@Lil_bookie_mane]

@@solitude2871 SUD

[@zg7047]

Street can?

[@badbeatking80]

You guys have explained tire measurements better than any other channels. Thanks!

[@Kazeshini92]

For people like me who love cars but just getting in to modding cars, this series is GODSENT. Thanks boys!

[@ksmedina]

I'm kind impressed how good edited are Donut's videos and, off course, the content

[@thomaswright5060]

2:46 no kidding I actually laughed so hard. Thank you James. What was pure gold

[@K3NnY_G]

"In every test they performed better." With suspension proven vastly superior... Should've swapped em' all onto the same car.

[@filmboy18]

yep if the suspension isn't correctly set up for what you are using your car for theres no point in even thinking about wheels and tyres. slamming a car as low as it will go severely impacts the way a car handles as seen in the video and should never be done if your doing any fast driving.

[@andreicojanu2741]

@@filmboy18 that's true but I'm pretty sure that he meant the fact that the two cars have different suspensions

[@boheyo]

They wouldn't fit, they already had to roll the fenders out on hi-car to fit the Advan/Bridgestone combo, lo-car is way lower so would have even less room.

[@baitboy3191]

I just started watching this youtube channel, and I really like how they explain important facts about each product and how they can impact a cars performance. Reminds me of those car shows back on discovery channel in the early 2000's

[@iamthelaw69]

12:25 I can attest to this. I have stage 4 hair loss by the time I was 23. Had to shave it all because it was so disgusting. Now I'm 36 and still single.

[@LumbeeGod]

Guys I don't care if you are or aren't sponsored. Just keep making great videos! Thank you for what you all do!!

[@TheEmeraldSword04]

I think the sponsors are part of their motivation for some of their series, Nos energy drink split after James had a heart attack, and since it was a reoccurring sponsor for Bumper 2 Bumper, meaning it was probably the main sponsor, the series hasn't had a new episode since.

[@clarencesnyderjr9547]

He had a heart attack?

[@theguycalledturbo]

Should've done the tests with stock suspension on both

[@davidburton3447]

or at least made another run with the cheap tires and rims on the hi car so that we'd have an apples to apples comparison

[@mconcepcion752]

They didn't have to. They ran the same course with both cars when they changed the suspension and before they changed the wheels and tires.

[@grape6776]

Next HiLow we need to see Aaron and Nolan on the High team and James and Jobe on the Low team.

[@sebasttps7096]

10:43 i like how aaron goes into a powerslide but just keeps calm and countersteers, this is why he got into hyperdrive.

[@7_7_5]

10:10 Text is flipped around

[@theelaffingman8776]

I LOVE THESE VIDEOS! This should be called "UNDERSTANDING CARS AND PARTS 101"....this is awesome! This series is a keeper.

[@WindwolfBlog]

I think this Hi / Lo series is the pinnacle so far of this channel. Was epic.

[@tatesmart1646]

Up to Speed: 4G63 Up to Speed: VR6 Start breaking down legendary engines and why they are so legendary! @Donut Media

[@mikederucki]

Tate Smart my first car was a VR6. Was siiick

[@devilg37]

Agree on the vr6, Always loved the sound of that engine 👍

[@sethrowe3583]

Love the show. I am a budget car guy, so I like the info on the low end stuff. But I do spend the money on good parts where necessary so I can appreciate the reviews on the High end shiz too! Anyways I'll keep tuning in on the channel.

[@Ranjuw]

Thumbnail: 100 vs 700 Title: 1,000 vs 3,700 James:676 and 275 Nolan:127 and 136 Dollars Don't make this my math problems in class

[@dalechenoweth915]

OMG the triangles thing was about the sandwiches. Nice work!

[@TacoDraws]

14:42 James your forehead has a mouth.

[@epicscythe]

Taconator lmao 🤣

[@ClellBiggs]

@@epicscythe lol, How have I never noticed that.

[@coldbass1592]

Hahahahha I'm dead

[@ammarwasim306]

i dont see it

[@epicscythe]

I think James should put lipstick on his forehead that has a mouth! 💄

[@JobuRum]

I can’t get enough of this channel.

[@KwyattCreations]

2:29 almost gave James another heart attack

[@Philosoraptor1129]

as a production associate at Michelin I can say for a fact that no other company stands to our Quality standards for our rubber compounds and manufacturing process. second to none. They are for sure worth every penny.

[@Thebearwand]

5:35 all the stance bois need to hear this

[@devilg37]

They wont listen lol...

[@Thebearwand]

DevilG lmfao true

[@neogenzim1995]

i appreciated that rubber chicken joke, james

[@meps1841]

It’s like watching Seth Rogen and chum lee

[@johnnyjohnson2569]

dude this is freaking hilarious. thank you, i am actually laughing out loud

[@Emmanuel-ho8ig]

lmfaooo

[@doodtf7334]

I love this series bro’s ! It’s dope af gave me allot of insight and made my purchases better

[@TheAVJ2]

I wanna se a hi low episode where you guys loaded it with all the parts you guys tested over the years and do an ultimate test

[@hedhadwill210]

17 seconds from upload? Well, goodbye to another 17 mins of my sleep lol

[@nailnile1829]

Good morning

[@TheChrisLeone]

I always get higher end tires if I'm not dead broke when I'm getting tires, you're putting your trust and safety in 4 rubber and metal circles so you better buy good ones. $250 per tire is usually what it costs, but there's loads of places that have deals to sell them cheaper in sets

[@thecanucklehead3034]

Can we appreciate that the holy spirit of dirty jokes seemingly possessed james's mortal body at 13:55

[@gonzf.6983]

3:18 Anyone else immediately think of The Champions?

[@arxum]

I’ve learned so much from this hiLo series and enjoy it so much! Thank you.

[@thedylan1956]

I just got some 19” by 8.5” Sebring wheels from Les Schwab for my 2016 Subaru wrx, with tires and labor (continental extreme contact) it was $3k. So it’s nice to see how mine compare.

[@shaunmeldrum4302]

13:55 - "like my wife's _______________________" 😂

[@jordyncruz2372]

what do you think he compared to hahaha

[@bryandicker1412]

If you want to test out grip of tires measure a spring at rest then pull the tire and measure the expanded spring. There’s an equation that I forget but basically you’re solving for mew. The higher mew the more friction or grip it is capable of

[@Slipped_clutch]

6:45 I actually had that happen to me 6 cars involved including a semi😂

[@jordyncruz2372]

damn!

[@jacobmatthew5597]

This really got y’all a ton of subs

[@JITB0Reiu]

You guys are awesome. Can I invite you to my wedding? We need a ring bearer and I think Nolan would look great with a clip-on bowtie in a suit he outgrew because it's the same one his parents bought last year and he's a growing boy.

[@Donut]

hahahah

[@RadDadisRad]

A baseball bat between the fender and the wheel works very nicely for rolling fenders.

[@robinscott2756]

You should of switched rims and tires to the other car, that’s what I thought you would do, that way you could see if there was a difference made on the car you were driving by the rims and tires package

[@Thiterest1]

It also would've removed the bounciness added by the low cars bad coilovers.

[@apocalypse2519]

2:31 Nolan's face😂

[@real-game8991]

I work with a lot of wheels and tires, YES they do make a difference. Tires and wheels are a perfect example of "you get what you pay for" and tires especially, all tires are not created equal! Some could be out of round which means during manufacturing they didn't perfectly round off the tire which means you can get a LOT of bouncing. There is nothing you can do about that. Some good tires around about 1,000 and up.

[@imbored287]

"multi lug pattern wheels are signs that they're cheap" *laughs in LMGT4*

[@markoz673bajen8]

Jdmdistro

[@Vibe174]

LMGT4s aren't multi lug

[@imbored287]

@@Vibe174 you sure?

[@Vibe174]

@@imbored287 yeah, the other 5 holes are for weight reduction at a guess, look at a picture on google and you'll see 5 of the ten holes are literally just holes and aren't for studs/bolts

[@imbored287]

@@Vibe174I'm pretty sure the LMGT1, 2, and 3 were multilug though

[@eivis13]

Wheel weight has a say in stopping and accelerating. Those 8kg of rotational mass sound heavy, though i'm guessing the tires have a weight difference as well.

[@BlackAx33]

I have xxr's exactly like those but they're gold and look amazing lmao I'm glad Nolan thinks so too haha 😂

[@TT.357]

Obviously the suspension is most of it, but I think the lighter flow formed wheels played a serious part in how much less bouncy high car was. Less inertia means the suspension can reset the suspension quicker, meaning less bump.

[@wizardmanuel1022]

Those are one of the most amazing blue eyes I have ever seen.

[@benjprince]

Can’t stop peeping those coasters!

[@ChannelZeroOne]

The wheels mean nearly nothing other than weight. I would like to see this test done with same exact tires including size, but with expensive wheels vs cheap wheels.

[@vynnxa6416]

For everyday driving.. yea.. I can see going with the cheap bang for buck option on wheels and tires.

[@bilack7007]

Thumbnail : **$120 vs $700 wheels and tires** Title: **$1000 vs $3700 wheels and tires** Description: **$1000 vs $4000 wheels and tires** Nolan and James: **$1000 vs $3600 wheels and tires** Reality: **$1052 vs $3674 wheels and tires** I guess that's how it is.

[@Delta132]

*"More better?"* -Nolan 2019

[@phaqyou2]

I’ve rolled arches with a beer bottle without removing the wheel

[@chrisnas1483]

I swear, when iam feeling sucky, I watch donut media, and I feel so much better.

[@matthewjswider]

I really wanna know which wheels and tires James bought for his Golf that didn’t fit

[@Donut]

SSR Formula mesh with adaptors. Offsets were too low.

[@elvis1745]

@@Donut these are the shit for a Golf, my man got some taste!

[@davidd4677]

@@Donut Excellent choice in wheel design though!!

[@samprine2489]

This video cleared up some issues I'm having with my plymouth fire arrow

[@cxbra]

This comparison is like comparing a racecar on street tires to a streetcar on race tires... its all just a big 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Kantorock]

I had no idea who you guys where, until I saw your inclusion in Forza Horizon 5. It was the recent Upgrade Heroes update to the game, which featured the Hi-Low storyline (Low Car btw, 'cause 20k is easy to put into a car piecemeal), that got me to check out your channel. Looking forward to seeing what content you have on offer.

[@nupnup317]

Aaron needs more credit in this series

[@tudor4193]

Keep it up boys!! Always enjoy a Donut break! Drive safe 🙌

[@vogue2285]

I LOVE THIS SERIES!!

[@veevoir]

The fun part is that LO tires.. are not actually cheap crappy tires. They are pretty popular mid-range semi-slicks. Actual CHEAP tires are some chinesium for 50-60$ a pop.

[@dillonkoch72]

I spent $1,700 with rims tires and alignment for my honda. There's in my town that spent 5K just on rims and tires for his dodge 3500. He converted it to semi rims and "40 tires. It looks beast.

[@spruce1509]

Watching this after having watched the LS swaps. Zach's hair is crazy different

[@jonf5976]

I miss high/low - BRING IT BACK!

[@jmg4208]

Why you guys haven't swap high / low wheel, like in the coil over vid? To take out of the equation the suspension..

[@airborne099]

Hi's (idk his name btw) But Hi's wheels are the same as Keisuke Takahashi's from Initial D 4th stage-5th stage-Final stage

[@celticwind4122]

me with me $400 rims lol. still holds up today

[@hawkeallen1319]

I'm running those xxrs in bronze with Hancock ventus evo2 and the combo is great. Plus the tire rating is like 340.

[@darnelli7690]

"Cheap $1000 set of wheels" Excuse me while I go roll out with my rattlecan oem wheels on $50 kendas

[@dekunp]

Imagine if you had to deal with engine issues three years ago, this show would have never gotten started, lol.

[@scottmadoff7444]

i thought you guys would compare them on the road as in handling on city streets or highway with other cars around & pothole for strength

[@RubyXIII]

they should’ve switched cars when they drove them after putting the wheels and tires on so we could hear what they had to say about the other persons car

[@franciscofranco6486]

You guys need to do this again

[@urbuddie]

Awesome reaction when the wheels rolled and clinked together. i cringed the same as he did XD

[@sportman2536]

The expensive ones are better because of the Tire. Potenza is probably the best line in the sports tires market right now.

[@jacobhackworth7982]

my favorite thing to do while watching these videos is look at the person who isnt talking... nolan always looks dead inside when he isnt talking

[@bricekdu91]

Merci d’avoir mie les sous titre en français Thnks

[@zleipnirgoh5972]

How about tests on wet road for the tyres?

[@jawarmaniak4976]

A friend of mine has on his passat a set of 17 inch rial spiders.. 100$fot the set and tires of 1,50$ per tire , it runned beatiful 😀

[@pb-wo7ul]

10:09 there is mistake in labels as car below is not stock but on new wheels and tires

[@DeejayNiXoT]

First time, that I think the "expensive Side" is cheap.. Would be nearly the cheapest wheel setup I've ever had (except winter wheels)

[@iCanSeeWhatMostCant]

3:17 Start living that philosophy, everyone, please! "it's time to stop being polite and start being real."

[@CitAllHearItAll]

For 60-0 brake tests, couldn't you put it on cruise control at 60mph, then hit the brakes? The cruise control will automatically turn off the moment brakes are applied. And it'd make it very easy to increase the precision of the test.

[@BILLHOVER]

Dream world Reece, I work in the motor industry as many others here do, and as for modified cars are better performing and SAFER, not from what i have seen at least 50 percent of these we get in are less safe then factory, due to miss matched parts, like un- balanced brakes systems and suspension geometry, just think about just lowering the suspension, the list of changes that are need to be checked and may need to be changed, castor, camber, tracking, spring rates, rebound & compression rates, rollbar travel, and the list goes on, if only life was that easy, but carry on with the mods as it does keep a lot of us in the industry & police acciden ivestigation teams in work.

[@thomassparrow8852]

They should do another series of high-low where one car gets new parts while the other gets stuff from Facebook and other second hand options to compare new to to used parts in comparison to performance reliability and cost.

[@Kj16V]

Love this series.

[@hotrodlover2.045]

thanks this helped me find tires for a top kick.

[@forumics]

i've tried driving on chinese and korean tires and they were totally fine and really good even when new, once the tires start to wear, they were horrible especially on wet roads. my ps4s were perfect even when almost thread bare. i don't think tests on new tires are the way to go. they should be properly worn in and tested in wet conditions.

[@rogerp841]

Jesus Christ dude. In my childhood times there used to be a tv show called Benny Hill and you look like you’re his son lol

[@megapixzel]

watching this after watching the subie hilow. everyone looks so young lol this was only 3 years ago