1 Timothy 2 Explained - Context - Katia Adams

[@venturesintoglory5353]

Thank you, Katie, for sharing your insight on what Paul was trying to communicate in his letter to Timothy.

[@sjarjoura9188]

With regards to 1 Tim. 2, I would like to suggest that the passage is not necessarily transcultural, nor do I think that Paul was trying to create a stumbling block for women’s participation in worship/ministry. Certainly the Christian faith is dependent on the work of the Holy Spirit in us (who are empty vessels ready to be filled by Him), and His gifting according to His mercy and grace. Verses in the Bible such as Joel 2:28 clearly leaves no one out, and there’s no shortage of verses and examples in the Bible, along with historical and present day accounts of God moving mightily in women, including in the role of teaching. So I can’t see Paul ostracizing women from this role as a generally applied directive, but rather a specific instruction for a particular time and context - and I believe the text supports this argument. Many read this passage and automatically jump to the negative narrative, and assert that Paul is being misogynistic, when in fact he is actually trying to protect the women of that time from judgement. I believe that Dickson’s argument of the difference between “teaching” and “preaching” is valid and applicable. We know this when we look at other passages where Paul makes the distinction between these gifts (1 Cor. 12:28, Rom. 12:4-8, etc.), and as you read his and other letters, it is clear that this distinction was understood among 1st Century Christians. In James 3:1, James strongly cautions the brethren/believers about not seeking to become “teachers”, because there is a greater judgement for those who teach incorrectly. “Teaching” is meant for those who can read, interpret and explain the Word correctly, whereas “Preaching” is intended for witnessing and sharing the good news after one has been taught. Paul is discouraging women of that time from “teaching”, not “preaching”. (and not from prophesying, speaking in tongues, performing miracles or any other gifting/ministry either). It is clear from the passage that women were not in a position to be properly equipped to teach. You need mentorship to become a “teacher”, similar to how Paul studied under Gamaliel (Acts 22:3), but this was not available to women of that time - only to men - and he didn’t want women to use their new-found freedom to assume the role of teaching without proper training (additionally, considering the very low literacy rates of the time among men, women would be even less privileged to have an education, making matters worse). So given the opportunity, there’s no reason why women can’t teach or be Pastors. Paul uses the illustration from Genesis because God told Adam directly about the forbidden fruit in Genesis 2, prior to Eve being formed. Adam would have shared the knowledge about the forbidden fruit with Eve after she was formed. When Eve was tempted/questioned by the serpent/devil, she was unable to correctly respond/deceived, and eventually sinned, causing judgement on herself and Adam (to be clear, Adam sinned as well). Paul is basically trying to explain how important it is to have a full understanding and knowledge of the word, otherwise you will be prone to fail/sin, which the women of that time would have been in a position to do so. Paul ends the passage about women “saved through childbearing”, not in the context that this is their only purpose (as Augustine incorrectly interpreted and asserted), nor that every women who gives birth gets saved and goes to heaven, but rather imploring women of that time that, if they want to do good, then they can carry out a very important role of “teaching” (without facing judgement, and thus “saved”): which is to raise up Godly children “in faith, love and holiness with propriety”.

[@coltonavery2252]

This is beautiful

[@marie-gabriellanwokolo7543]

God bless you for this !

[@sjarjoura9188]

@@marie-gabriellanwokolo7543 Thank you and blessings to you as well!

[@noelly8003]

Thank you so much!! Grateful that God has allowed me to see this.

[@sjarjoura9188]

@@noelly8003 May you be blessed, and yes, give God all the glory!

[@rosh_corbinSC]

This is not honest with Greek being used. Unless by "all men everywhere" you think Paul means only men in Ephesus at that particular time, you can't make the argument you're making. The presence of "hosautos" linking the first part to the second indicates his second command is as universal as his first. Further - he roots the command to women in a universal theological reality, not a present distress in a particular church.

[@joelfields9807]

Some advice for those in the comments. It is not helping your position to say unkind ungodly remarks regarding this sister. I do not agree with her position but that doesn't mean there is a need to make nasty comments about her. If you want to genuinely persuade someone try some kindness and respect please.

[@WyldWillow]

I agree that scripture is some times taken out of context, yet there are times when past context mirrors present reality

[@wkgeneralwkgeneral527]

Thank you for having the courage to provide this information. This series is one of the best and soundest studies I've seen that logically lays out the truth by explaining the scripture in context of the original language and church events of the times.

[@Dale65378]

do you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

[@sayedesam2042]

​@@Dale65378it is about women or group of wives that disrupted service and broke the peace .. not about authority

[@CGdone]

Thank you for this. It's a timely message and one that needs to be discussed. These scriptures have been taken out of context so often to perpetuate a patriarchal system that keeps women in spiritual bondage. Women were designed to lead, along with men. The women I know who have been called into leadership are not demanding that they be placed there. They are simply being obedient to the call of God on their lives. It's tragic that a woman may be the only person standing between a man and an open door to hell and some men will be lost as a result because they can't get past the vessel to recognize the Voice of God speaking through her. I recommend "10 Lies the Church Tells Women" by J. Lee Grady. It breaks these scriptures down and offers a very compelling explanation in regard to the whole of scripture.

[@Dale65378]

Do you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

[@crisgood1598]

@@Dale65378 I believe that all scripture is God breathed and inspired. I don’t believe, however, in the interpretation that many men have used to keep women in bondage using this scripture. This entire section of scripture, from vs 26 to 40 is about orderly worship, prophesying, and conduct when meeting together. When men are afraid of Chayil women, they’ll always seek to put her in a box and prevent her from being who God created and called her to be. That’s not God, that’s a lie from the pit of hell and any man adhering to this ‘doctrine’ is partnering with demons, not the Holy Spirit. God is Spirit and He doesn’t give women Holy Spirit Jr. Women have the same Holy Spirit given to men. And since God is no respecter of persons why would He limit His work in women because they’re women? The answer is, He wouldn’t and He doesn’t. Any woman reading this: I challenge you to read John Eckhardt’s book ‘The Chayil Woman.’ You will come away being inspired, encouraged, and more equipped to ignore the naysayers and get busy doing Kingdom work for our King Jesus.

[@BTCcali]

The second you say gender equality, you’re saying goodbye to biblical principle

[@claudette5809]

Thank you for your explanation of the text. Why does Paul say not to teach men? If your explanation is correct, does it mean women should teach other women and children false teachings? I struggle with the text and I just want to understand.

[@Aurora_is_sleepy]

Hi, from what I can tell from the text and context, I do believe it would make sense for Paul to not regard teaching the men proper teachings because in fact during the time period men were already given access to those teachings and had the knowledge, but as it is known, women were not given that access to knowledge. Instead they were given access to deceptive knowledge which only caused more confusion. Paul instructs these women to stop tlaking in and out of church only because they are given wrong information and aren’t given the proper knowledge to speak on the word, because in fact, they were not taught the word at all. Paul doesn’t want lies about the gospel being spread by uneducated people, and at the time women were the majority of uneducated people’s. I hope this helps ❤

[@blackneos940]

Katia seems very dedicated. I'm the poster boy for Backslider's Bi-Monthly Magazine, and an occasional cameo in How Many Ways Can I Sin Yearly. I'm the last, and one of the worst people to come to for anything remotely related to a guy on a Cross, and what that meant to, and for the world, both then and now. I hope that provides context of how much she knows about this stuff, and of her character.

[@andrewtanczyk4009]

Great explanation of her understanding or lack their of!

[@Dale65378]

Do you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

[@jasonseyo2021]

When you have to dance around for 9 min to explain one sentence, you may be performing interpretive gymnastics.

[@anthonycoscia5501]

I agree with you on this, My Sister In Christ. Are we not going to allow women to have BRAIDED HAIR, because of what Paul said? Most people would say that’s ridiculous-(but why? aren’t we doing what The Bible Says?) Yes, you would be…But you’d be missing the point, and you’d be doing something that wasn’t meant for us today. That’s why context is important. You are correct. Thanks so much for doing this video. 😀

[@isimaiguisi1229]

This brought my heart at ease, thank you for explaining it so clearly!

[@SashiMashiStories]

amazing. thank you so much for this teaching.

[@Dale65378]

Do you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

[@drummerboy737]

What happens when the context of that time and place becomes commonplace thousands of years later?

[@ProjectBlackBox_TM]

Doing mental gymnastics to justify doing whatever you want. Turning the truth of God into a lie.

[@erikbeyer871]

She didn't do anything you said, she just gave context to the situation to help people understand why Paul says this. Also the word in aramaic for authority in this chapter means to usurp power (in this case the power of the pastor), which isn't good for men or women to do. The letter is talking about women specifically in this case, however.

[@andrewtanczyk4009]

She can also justify same sex marriage and abortion as well also.

[@andrewtanczyk4009]

Actually I’m sure she has married off some sane sex couples as well also. 😂

[@Peergint67]

Why is everything about gender equality? As a Christian aren't you missing the point of Genesis 3:16-17 and why Paul mentioned it in 1 Timothy 2:15? It was a woman who was deceived not man, but man chose to sin. Both were guilty of course, but you have to look to what God said to Eve. 1 Genesis 3:16b. Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you.” According to the bible in 1 Corinthians 11:3. But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Women are to be loved, respected, and have been given gifts to serve, just as men have, but women are not to preach. Why are women fighting what the bible clearly teaches?

[@stevereilly7058]

The point of Genesis 1 and 2 is gender equality!!! Genesis 3 is descriptive of how it will be, it is not saying this is how it should be.

[@TeeNutei]

Amen...🙌🙌 Thank u so much

[@Dale65378]

Do you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

[@jreberanlc]

I'm sorry I don't know the name of this woman so refer to her as 'she' and 'her' - no impoliteness intended. Much of what this woman says is true concerning 1 Timothy. It is largely correctional - as are most epistles. Paul is Timothy's mentor encouraging him to fight the good fight - which means combatting false teaching. And of course context is very important in determining meaning. But it is also true that we cannot always piece together the context - and when that is the case we must be honest and not go beyond it. Sadly this lady does just that. She paints a picture as if she knows what she is talking about - but no-one can know what she claims - she goes too far. Her comment quoting Fee is a good example - it is true phlyaros literally means 'nonsense' rather than what we tend to call gossip but she concludes they were engaded in propogating false teaching - which is certainly not at all remotely implied by the word phlyaros. Of course it is possible the lady's assertions are correct - but she has no basis for it and we have no way of knowing it. I say respectfully, there needs to be a little more humility in her claims. She seems to be arguing that women were a major problem in the church at Ephesus with regard to false teaching. She bases this on very scant evidence indeed - pretty much clutching at straws you could say. She goes to a lot of trouble to paint a very specific picture. The problem is - a conext arising from personal convenience or fantacy is worse than knowing you do not know the context. The fact the epistle is correctional (as she acknowledges) is the most helpul aspect to understand. Knowing that - and there we agree, we can learn a great deal. Eg ... We should note that in chapter 1 there is no hint at all that women had any particular roll in false teaching - they may have - we just cannot know. In chapter 2 - understanding the epistle to be correctional, we can deduce that in ther church in Ephesus there was a wrong attitude to governments and authorities - Paul corrects that by exorting prayer and thanks being giving for them and he explains why (verses 1-7). We can deduce from verse 8 the men were characteristically engaged in angry dusputes and put their energy into that, Paul corrects this by urging them to put their energy into engaging in prayer - leading the way as men of prayer. We can deduce from verses 9-10 that the women were overly concerned with their external appearance rather than nurturing their inner beauthy as women of God - as is often the case today. Verse 11 suggests that either women were either not being allowed to 'learn' at all or were disruptive during times of learning - whatever Paul is clear (a) they should learn and (b) in quietness and full submission. We can deduce from verse 12 that women were being allowed to assume a teaching role and authority in the church and perhaps claimed Pauline apostolic authority. Paul is clear that he does not permit any woman to teach or have authority over a man. Paul then gives his theological reasons - (1) Adam was formed first and then Eve - implying a certain order of authority - and (2) Adam was not decieved - it was the woman - and so became a sinner - the implication being either (1) Women are more prone to deception and so should not teach men (highly unlikely) or (2) the consequence of the reversal of role and function (Eve took the lead and Adam followed) resulted in sin - illustrating the folly of reverseing God's order and making the case to retain it.

[@MyRoBeRtBaKeR]

Does God change? False teachers and their claim that these books written to the early are limited to that time and or place, is spiritually sick. The truth is in plain sight. Yes there were false teachers but there wag also women who were teaching men and desiring to overrule their husbands and the men appointed to lead the men in the Lord then there was the establishing of the correct and orderly ways to hold church proceedings. If you had any kind of spiritual maturity then you would know that there is no limit to what you can learn from God in HIS WORD! Paul takes us back, not just them at Ephesus nor is it limited to that exact era but he takes us back to the creation event to show that before the fall, even before time began man was formed first and then the woman and the woman is of the man, from man and is under the man's authority. 1 Corinthians 11 Therefore for the woman to overrule a man, any man IN THE LORD, and lead him, is to blaspheme the Word of the Lord. 1 Corinthians 11 Furthermore, Paul created a new context within the broad context of the book to correct the church at Ephesus and for any church that might fall under the same example, whenever that may be.

[@basicallywellfed3453]

hahahahahaha you explicity ignore Paul's teaching to attack Paul's teaching. Go woman and be quiet as Paul (an Apostle of God) told YOU to be. There is NO other way to construe what was said in 2 Timothy other than the PLAIN READING of his words, lol.

[@davidvandersterre]

I hate it when people bring up random but well known verses to confuse Christians. I felt kinda unarmed to deal with this verse when someone brought it up. (I didn't even knew where it was written.) Luckily I know better and when I was told where it stood I started looking at the context, and realized this was something someone else would be better at explaining why it is written in the Bible. So annoying how some people just try to corner Christians to embarrassment with some verses. Like, bro, I might be a Christian, but it doesn't mean I know and can explain everything you throw at me. 😒 And even if I'd explain, you might not listen anyways. So what is the point in explaining.

[@Dale65378]

Hi Julian C. Adams do you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

[@MrsDazl]

Anyone have thoughts on Elijah streams intelligence briefing #3 with Robin bullock? Neither of them are "liberal" Christians in any sort of way. I've never heard anyone explain this "conundrum" so well. It's just my opinion, but with the depth of information given, it's pretty hard to argue against, using 1 Tim/1 Cor as some kind of excuse. The only thing it could seem to be would be pride at that point... but like I said, just my opinion.

[@martdb100]

A 9 minute video and you never read the particular scripture that you were talking about. How can we understand the "context" if we don't know what you're talking about?

[@juhbev]

this is a verse people often search the meaning of what Paul was talking about, so she imagined that logically someone would watch reading the scripture or after reading it

[@towerofsiloam9579]

He should have simply used the term 'false teachers' rather than 'women' if that's what he meant. His bad. Another slipup. Unless of course that's not what he meant.

[@brba8245]

This is silliness, it is helpful BUT only to show us what false teaching and twisting of scripture looks like. More and more of this will be happening as time goes on.

[@davidbrock4104]

I'm amazed how people manipulate scripture to wrestle from it the doctrine and theology they want so badly. There were no qualifications for ministry that included women. There were no Apostles that were women. No authors of NT were women, so far as we know. There were no women bishops listed in the NT scriptures. And furthermore, there were no church leaders that were women after the Apostles were all gone. Would the Holy Spirit hide it if there were? No he would not. This is all aside from the specific references addressing women in the church.

[@davidbrock4104]

@@JesusC375 My points still stand and making personal accusations should be beneath real Christians.

[@andrewgadson89]

@@JesusC375 Sister you are deceived!! If you think women are called to be a pastor, elder,apostle ,deacon, or any other male god given positions,wrong !! Quit trying to figure out a way to get around gods word! Its demonic!! Since you had not love for the truth,God say he will send you a delusional spirit, that you will be damned by that lie! 2 thessalonians 2:10-12. Stop twisting gods word to fit your desires. Godly men are to lead their wifes, children ,and the church! Women ought to teach other women if they are appointed by God to do so. Titus 2:3-5. Otherwise in the church setting women are to be in subjection to the male leaders of the body of christ!

[@lauranunes9514]

There are many stories such as Esther and Ruth and Mary that are very inspiring and have women as the person that God called. Also Mary (the woman of the 7 demons) was actually Jesus' first follower. Also, the first people who saw Jesus after he came back to life were women and the people Jesus sent to deliver the good news to the apostles that he had come back to life were women.

[@megan1445]

And Deborah, *a prophetess,* the wife of Lapidoth, *she judged Israel at that time.* 5 And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in mount Ephraim: and *the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.* (Judges 4:4-5) KJV So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, *went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum* the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college;) *and they communed with her.* (2 Kings 22:14) KJV And *Miriam the prophetess,* the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances. 21 And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to the Lord, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea. (Exodus 15: 20-21) KJV And there was one *Anna, a prophetess,* the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity; 37 And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day. 38 And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, *and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.* (Luke 2:36-38) KJV The churches of Asia salute you. *Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.* 20 All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss. 21 The salutation of me Paul with mine own hand. (1 Corinthians 16:19-21) KJV After more than a year and a half together in Corinth, Paul, Priscilla, and Aquila left together to various locations in route to Antioch. They were later mentioned as leading a house church in Ephesus around AD 53-54. It was while the couple were caring for a church in Ephesus that they met Apollos. He is described as being instructed by Priscilla and Aquila, but, regardless, she was involved in the instruction of a man: And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John. And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: *whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.* (Acts 18:24-26) KJV *I commend to you Phoebe our sister, who is a servant [diakonos] of the church in Cenchrea,* 2 that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also. (Romans 16:1-2) NKJV *Greet Priscilla* and Aquila, *my fellow workers in Christ Jesus,* 4 who risked their own necks for my life, to whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles. 5 *Likewise greet the church that is in their house.* Greet my beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia to Christ. 6 Greet Mary, who labored much for us. (Romans 16:3-6) NKJV Mary Magdalene wasn't just tagging along for the fun of it and what an honour it was for her to be the first to see and proclaim the risen Jesus Christ, especially since Jesus Himself ignored all the social restrictions. The list in scripture of women being used go on and on. Academics have claimed that a fresco unearthed in an Italian catacomb proves that women were acting as bishops in the early Christian church. The 5th century image of a woman named Cerula, found in the catacomb of San Gennaro, Naples, shows her surrounded by open, flaming Gospel books, which are thought to be symbolic of the role of a bishop. Kinneret College archaeologist Mordechai Aviam and historian Jacob Ashkenazi uncovered a 5th-century Greek inscription in western Galilee memorializing a female named “Sausann” (or Shoshana) credited for the construction of a village church. There is a A Roman Mosaic from the early Christian period in the Bardo Museum in Tunis, Tunisia of a female bishop.

[@talithacumi1639]

@@JesusC375 drop the mike!

[@trainingtheworld5093]

You just gave an excellent example of why women should remain silent in the church.

[@CGdone]

And you just gave an excellent example of why there is no unity in the church and why the #MeToo movement exists in the first place. We war not against flesh and blood but against the enemy. People who don't understand how to interpret scripture accurately with the help of The Holy Spirit end up being fools who hold tightly to misguided and ignorant theology. Fools end up being tools for the enemy and become a hindrance instead of a help for the spreading of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is not about a radical feminist agenda. This is about the restoration and reconciliation of the new creation in Christ Jesus that was accomplished at the Cross of Calvary. Jesus shed His blood to restore both men and women to their rightful place as joint heirs and co-rulers, not dominant and subordinate roles. 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” 27So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. 28God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” These verses were the original pattern and design for both men and women. Nowhere in these scriptures does it say,"Man you rule, and woman you follow his rule." The dominant patriarchal system resulted from the fall. It was not God's original design for us.

[@trainingtheworld5093]

Cris Good You must be reading from the gospel according to jezebel. No you’re the problem. You bring your superiority complex and postmodern feminist rubbish from university everywhere you go. Instead of keeping your trap shut you twist and ignore passages from the bible to fool weak men like your husband.

[@trainingtheworld5093]

Cris Good Repeat after me: I do not permit a woman to teach...

[@CGdone]

@@trainingtheworld5093 Lol...you obviously must not know many women to assume that everyone is barefoot, pregnant, oh, and married. I mean no disrespect to you, but when you refer to the "gospel of jezebel" you've disqualified yourself from having any authority on the subject of actually knowing what the interpretation of scripture is all about (since that doesn't actually exist, if you don't already know that). Have you actually taken the time to look at scripture, all scripture in light of what the passages here actually say? Because if you have, then you'll notice that other scriptures will tend to contradict this view you've adopted and God is not a God of confusion or chaos. So, there must be something else deeper that we need to see here. Furthermore, You accuse me of doing the very thing you yourself are guilty of - a superiority complex where you are twisting the scriptures to suite your own male bias narrative. If you actually, prayerfully, ask the Holy Spirit to open your heart to what He's saying here instead of simply taking it out of context, then He will give you the truth. He never lies but you have to be willing to accept the truth and if you can't then you'll remain in your error and will ultimately hinder the Holy Spirit, if in fact you actually have the Holy Spirit. I know you have a religious spirit and that is the same spirit the Pharisees had.

[@CGdone]

@@trainingtheworld5093 Oh, I don't have to repeat it, I've heard it shoved down women's throats to prevent them from having any leadership roles in the church because many men are insecure, proud, and arrogant and use several of these scriptures to bludgeon women into spiritual bondage. Gal. 3:28 - 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Yeah, that's my Lord and Savior, Jesus!

[@jalexb915]

Katia, respectfully, I would say that it is far too easy to say your explanation of 1 Timothy 2 is exactly why women should not have authority over men, however the Church for 2,000 years would not agree with you. I understand that men in general, not godly men, have caused women to rebel further (i.e. feminism), but I do hope and pray that more godly men arise and love their women so this would not happen so often. My advice: Find a godly man and you will find the harmony God is apply to this letter. After all, God is the inspiration of the entire Bible isn't He? We ought to have faith that He has reason to have written 1 Timothy for us all: Past, present, future.

[@urban_chameleon6061]

Sooooo do you teach in your church? Cause it says women should be silent and not have authority of men and teach.

[@Aurora_is_sleepy]

Ok so at the time women were not allowed the right to be educated, therefore, women didn’t understand how to read, didn’t understand literature, basically just couldn’t read the Bible. So, as uneducated people, elder men of the church basically dumbed down a lie to tell women and make them believe it that was a lie about the gospel. These women being uneducated, took it to heart because they thought it was the truth and so they began to “spread the word” so in this passage Paul is sharing how these women (who were just basically uneducated people) need to be quiet in church because they aren’t educated and don’t know the actual word. With this passage Paul is trying to convey that uneducated people should educate themselves first in order to interpret the word into its true meaning and not the meaning that was told to them. It is not the women’s fault that they were told lies it is the fault that they were bait given a proper education. Paul is sharing that until women get this education they are to be silent. God bless ❤

[@ashleyhester456]

Gods Word is true in every generation, circumstance, etc. Stop being like the current society who seek to fit things into their own agenda. Most books in the Bible have an event that is being addressed. Regardless, if it was true for them then, it is true for us today. God does not place different standards on different generations.

[@CGdone]

How do you explain Deborah, the prophet and judge over Israel in the book of Judges? She clearly led the nation of Israel at that time and was held in high esteem because her prophecy was valid and confirmed. She proved that she was an effective leader and Barak wouldn't go into battle without her. How do you explain her leadership over an entire nation of men, women, and children? Please give me a valid explanation?

[@James-uu6xs]

@@CGdone Barak wouldn't go into battle without her. This is because he was a weak man, a coward to go face the Canaanites. In Modern times we may see wifes going to church but husband staying at home, for the similar reason.

[@CGdone]

@@James-uu6xs Nowhere does it say that Barak was a weak man. He simply understood that Deborah was anointed by God and wanted God's anointing with him to win the battle. You're reading into scripture and adding something that isn't there. Furthermore, men generally have issues with pride more than women do and because of that, don't think they need to go to church or pursue a relationship with God as a result.

[@James-uu6xs]

@@CGdone Judges Chapter 4 Deborah says in verse 6 to him “Behold, the Lord, the God of Israel, has commanded, ‘Go and march to Mount Tabor, and take with you ten thousand men from the sons of Naphtali and from the sons of Zebulun. 7 I will draw out to you Sisera, the commander of Jabin’s army, with his chariots and his many troops to the river Kishon, and I will give him into your hand." God of Israel commanded "There I will give you victory over him." This was already God's blessing to him. But since he was lacked faith in God's command demanding Deborah's presence. Deborah did reply saying "Very well, I will go with you. But since you have made this choice, you will receive no honor. For the LORD's victory over Sisera will be at the hands of a woman." His Honor was retracted because of his choice. Anyone who loves the world does not have the Father in them. For the lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life do not come from the Father, but from the world. The world and its desires pass away but the one who does the Will of God lives forever. 1 John 2 15-17 The husbands who are prideful like that are not right, they turn away from God for their own reasons.

[@CGdone]

@@James-uu6xs I believe Barak had a lack of faith about his ability to win and that's why he asked Deborah to go with him. Despite that, the issue I raised has nothing to do with Barak. Deborah was a judge with the same rights and privileges that every judge appointed by God over Israel had. She was anointed and chosen by God and that's why she succeeded. If God had wanted a guy during that time, he would've appointed one. He's more than capable of doing that. I mean, look at Saul and David. God chooses who He wants to choose. Some people, can't accept that and that's not God's problem...that's the person who rejects His choice's problem. God is no respecter of persons.

[@benjamin8674]

Spot on!

[@scottragsdale8279]

this is brilliant. thank you

[@ProjectBlackBox_TM]

Imagine actually thinking that

[@jasonmiller3943]

This isnt brilliant. Its complete rubbish. Go read 1 timmothy and see what it actually says. Most of it is very clear.

[@lemmyhead8578]

It saddens me to see people defend this garbage.

[@RES2345]

Gender equality is concept of human worship and raising sinners up to be closer to God. Proverbs 30:5-6. I find this lady talking about false teaching very ironic - 1 Timothy talks about people EXACTY like her.

[@realharrysingh]

YOUR CONTEXT DIFFERS A LOT WITH WHAT SCRIPTURE ACTUALLY SAYS. I CAN COUNT MORE SCHOLARS THAN YOU WHO TAKE THIS IN LITERAL SENSE

[@jasonmiller3943]

Dont you think an all knowing God could have said women and men are different and equal? 1 Timmothy 2 12 is very clear. You really have to do back bends to justify this. Why is that? How would you know the authors intent? Very unconvincing story you are trying to spin.

[@Ps119]

1 Tim 2 says that a woman should not teach or have authority over man because of the creation account described in Genesis. This video does not honestly address this instruction and its Genesis context that universally applies today but instead uses slippery words to misrepresent what Paul said about the Genesis account to convey the message that the context was not Genesis but instead it was the church at the time so she can say that context does not apply today - this is most dishonest and can be seen for what it is when one reads what Paul wrote rather than what katia Adams said he wrote.

[@andrewtanczyk4009]

She can also justify same sex marriage and abortion as well also. I’m sure she’s married some same sex couples in her church as well also!

[@Aurora_is_sleepy]

All sin is equal. Please keep your hate to yourself ❤

[@michaelbaird5722]

Anybody else not listening, because she's a girl and isn't allowed to teach you?

[@jaredstevens5382]

She's trying to create a new translation based on her new secular values

[@blackstars6512]

... nowhere in the Bible does it say that women can’t spread the gospel too

[@jaredstevens5382]

@@blackstars6512 you're being disingenuous

[@anna-eo5705]

@@jaredstevens5382 Acts 2:17, Acts 18:26 Acts 21:9 Galatians 3:28 Philippians 4: 2-3 Titus 2:3-5, Mark 16:15 and Luke 2:36-38

[@love4alll501]

@@anna-eo5705 there is absolutely 0 scripture you can use to try an oppose what 1 Timothy 2:11-14 says, it makes it clear as day, what women should and should not do, and even gives an explanation on why, there’s nothing you nor anyone else can do to change that