1-Ton Over The Knuckle Steering - Jeep Cherokee XJ - The Roadhouse

[@AndrewBrowner]

5:01 "we have no plans for that thing coming off again" steering box "am i a joke to you?"

[@tonylio4839]

I like these guys. Remind me of the good old days, working with my buddy in my garage, with the 12 packs.

[@Poweraddicts]

I've watched a couple of your videos. Great job fellas!!! Educational yet VERY entertaining! Keep up the good work!!

[@PabstBoys]

Power Addicts - Jeep, car and motorcycle tips Thanks Bud!

[@Donnythelatemodeltech]

OVER THE KNUCKLE STEERING! nice , hope to do this soon.

[@billpickelheimer8142]

All those new parts and you left the Trac bar at the wrong angle to help promote bump steer big time ,nice

[@bustedcherokee]

The gift that just keeps on giving.

[@VomitingClumps]

looks like you have some axle seals leaking, you should do a video on how to fix those. Just an idea. D30s have shims to set backlash, would be a great and easy video to put out. I'm sure many people have the same problem with their seals.

[@PabstBoys]

Witch seals? They all leak....LOL

[@VomitingClumps]

The axle seals right there on the front axle, they are right inside the diff where the carrier bearings are. We have a special tool to install them at work, but a 35mm socket and extensions work just as good, that's how I did mine.

[@PabstBoys]

Using an old bearing race works pretty good too.

[@SNAGEMNTAG3M]

Wish you guys would make a come back loved watching your videos

[@joshb9364]

"looking like a newborn deer"... lol "...goin in a DRY HOLE" ...lmao! ....... "Prrrrrrrrrt" LMFAO!!! Congrats on the beefier steering guys, AND the extra clearance. Keep up the great work!

[@wrightcycleworks]

Rough Country dies a little inside with ever video you guys release. Keep up the good work!

[@PabstBoys]

James Wright Hahahahahahahaha!!!! I haven't laughed that hard at a comment in a while..........

[@wrightcycleworks]

Lol, anytime! Any plans to lock those axles?

[@PabstBoys]

James Wright Yeah Bud. Just not sure what to go with yet, and waiting for the budget to make it possible....

[@wrightcycleworks]

www.lokka.com I've got those front and rear on my XJ on 35s. No problems so far!

[@PabstBoys]

James Wright Just not sure yet if we're gonna go with a cable locker, air locker, or an auto locker........

[@miked5789]

Props on showing the correct way to do cotter pins...

[@anthonywinters3288]

Alright boys I just finished my JCR over the knuckle setup. I am at the same point you are at. Just need to weld up the sway bar relocation brackets. Soo I'm crackin open a beer and waiting for that video. While I was in there I went ahead and swapped my steering gearbox with the 99 Durango. Feel like I'm driving a Cadillac now.

[@PabstBoys]

Anthony Winters Nice Bud! Been wanting to do the Durango upgrade. Just gotta get one first...... Hold tight. We'll get that sway bar bracket episode out for ya.

[@welivejeep3054]

Awesome! You guys need to make some videos of that XJ in action!

[@PabstBoys]

WeLiveJeep Wokin' on it Bud! Workin' on it......

[@allanwagner4570]

WOW thanks for the quik reply....ok then what do ya think for a 05 jeep wrangler in the rocks.... i am looking at OX locker or a truetrac the money says truetrac but my heart says OX locker

[@PabstBoys]

+Allan Wagner Truetracs are great. you're less likely to break other stuff with one of those. But OX will fully lock your dif. Think that full lock is better for mud than rocks, but I'm sure people will disagree

[@jeffperez9205]

Did you guys make the relocation bracket video yet? Getting ready to do my XJ, thanks great video's.

[@TheGreatWhiteXJ]

A tip. DONT USE A HAND REAMER. I have the UTK from JCR, and it was a pain in the ass getting the holes the right size by hand lol. Lucky I got their steering though, first time out in the mountains I nailed a rock with the new tie rod, bent it up a bit, if it was stock it would have snapped in half

[@DBNEBMUSICGROUP]

Where can i get some one experienced enough to install this? Looks great and sturdy! If possible ... in NYC!

[@Jolly282]

So glad i just found this channel!

[@PabstBoys]

+Austin Jolly Thanks Bud!

[@homerunmovers605]

This is great! I love this channel. I wish I would have found it sooner.

[@zs9477]

Great video. Ya'll are hilarious and I love your stuff! With that said, and I know I'm just being a nitpicky hater here, but I got a few little things: When installing the Pitman arm, CLEAN THE THREADS then threadlocker then install. Use a box end instead of an adjustable for the tie rod end nuts. Also, when you've got a deep socket of a decent length on a wrench and you're putting some torque on it, brace the wrench at the top of the socket so you won't side load the fastener or nut and/or round off the sides and/or have a wrench flying off and hitting your face. Awesome walkthrough, keep it up guys, again, love your stuff and entertaining as hell. Jeep on!

[@PabstBoys]

We all have bad habits.... Glad you like the show though, we're doing what we can to make the DIY genre more fun.

[@dhickey1997]

You guys should do a quick overview of the custom fender flares u guys have, i wanna make a set of metal ones for my rig. Thanks

[@PabstBoys]

dhickey1997 We get a lot of requests for that...... guess we might have to put something together....

[@TexasRedneck]

Pinion seal replacements, front d30 axle seal replacement some ideas on what to do next.

[@PabstBoys]

TexasRedneck Good ideas! Both blown on our Jeep.

[@TexasRedneck]

Pabst Boys mine too :D

[@jakeb1135]

Looks good guys! D30 seals would be cool mine are bad too.

[@PabstBoys]

B Jake pretty big job for a little rubber seal too hey....

[@patrickantis5940]

Is there no bumpsteer due to the track bar/drag link angles??

[@agaler02]

Can you do a vid overview of how you replaced the rockers with the tubing? Plan to do it just want to see how you did it.

[@PabstBoys]

Amy Galer Not a video, but we did a write up before we started the KZbin thing. Check it out here: www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/pbr-inspired-xj-189166/index2/

[@adamtubiera4176]

Wonder with all these upgrades if the jeep has death wobble

[@marktucker3951]

Well I bet he does no matter what upgrades you install drag link MUST be parallel with track bar ALWAYS

[@jacobneely4161]

How about the bump steer bc of the angles between the t bar and drag link

[@user-eg1ls1dq7y]

How are you not hitting your diff cover when you turn hard right

[@870StreetReviews]

You guys are my favorite KZbinrs! You guys should do the easiest way to do alightment on the xj

[@PabstBoys]

+Austinsiphone In the works.....

[@station08]

With out a doubt. Gotta love these guys. I do.

[@bradleycampbell5933]

CV axle on one side and U joint on other side? hahaha i been there man !

[@garyhowell738]

Went back to see, too funny

[@Motoman714.]

Haha just noticed

[@edwardiannarelli4678]

Thanks for the direct, to the point step by steps and the steady camera work. Oh and being hilarious while doing it. 😄

[@davidstair8936]

Is that a dana 30 running 35s? Curious how well it is holding up because I really don't want to axle swap.

[@chrisvanweele6641]

PBR = PROFESSIONAL BULL RIDER

[@PabstBoys]

Sometimes

[@allanwagner4570]

where you guys at anyway ????? WE are looking at oregon I used to live there way back when

[@PabstBoys]

+Allan Wagner We're in BC Canada. few hours north of Washington. Oregon is nice. always wanted to live there....

[@petersaurusrex9135]

Where is the video on relocating the sway bar and steering stabilizer mounting points?

[@PabstBoys]

Haven't made it yet. Just 'round the corner.

[@pdasch0]

this channel is awesome glad I found it

[@PabstBoys]

pdasch0 We're glad you found it too! Do us a favor, and help other people find it by sharing on social media. Thanks Bud!!

[@lisaburbage-jackson4204]

PBR is the ONLY beer! That ice cold, good old Red, White, & Blue! Ain't nothin like drinkin a cold brew covered in grease and dirt under ur jeep! That's how I do shit.

[@G2offroad]

Would this be the same application for wj hd otk steering ?

[@MrBoyScouter]

What drop pitman arm did you guys use? Building one ton steering rn and my drag link angle is too extreme. Running about 8” of lift.

[@reneportugal8447]

Is there a link so i myself can buy some of these ? Asking for a friend

[@MrHotshot417]

Looks like a great set up but have u guys hurd of the v8 zj steering swap? Its cheaper and uses oem parts

[@PabstBoys]

James Hebert Our Pals at Enlisted Budget Videos did a video on that. They didn't use all OE stuff though. Here's a link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnqkgJ2nmq-hqtU

[@BanginLimiter]

I had the jcr set up and just got my ruff stuff 3/4 heim steering it's cheaper and way stronger I broke the jcr tie rods multiple times. Just my two sense. I daily my jeep and the heims have way less play and last way longer.

[@lovedaink]

bro do you remember what size drill bits you used for the ruff stuff

[@lovedaink]

bro do you remember what size drill bits you used for the ruff stuff steering

[@tommywilson7548]

Do you guys have a video installing the swaybar brackets?

[@PabstBoys]

not yet. Will do though

[@RedneckGarage]

I was surprised you didnt use Rough Country........ lol looks great !

[@RedneckGarage]

Ain't no way that's going to flex ;)

[@Sanford1954]

Any issues with stock track bar axle bracket? Would be cool to see an OTA track bar video.

[@PabstBoys]

+Todd None yet. Thinking that if we did have issues, we'd probably beef up, or rebuild the existing bracket. OTA track bars are good for clearance, but are way shorter. There's way more tracking back and forth with the suspension as it goes in and out. On road handling goes way out the window with an OTA setups.

[@ramsesvalenzuela2324]

Why not the Iron Rock Off Road OTK steering? They come with heims aint that better?

[@PabstBoys]

Ramses Valenzuela Not always. Depends on what your after. Heims have no give, and dont feel great on road. Heims are also open to the elements, so their a lot higher maintenance.

[@mattlong8402]

Where do i get the reamer and what size?

[@ambikmawenda7076]

Good one guys.....Thannkx for the chat.

[@PabstBoys]

+Eka Wenda Yeah, Thanks! We had fun!!

[@Halfass_garage]

What about the stabilizer bracket? When I got my jeep it had 1 ton steering already on it with heim joints! But no brackets for sway bars or the steering stabilizer. How would n I do the bracket for the stabilizer?

[@PabstBoys]

bigb3576 There are kits out there that fit stabilizers like you would see on a 1 ton truck, that attach to the axle tube and mount to the tie rod using bolt on brackets. You can also get kits that run dual stabilizers that bolt on in a similar way.

[@bugmi1k]

Trac bar and drag link look all outta wack, was there a problem (solution?) for this?

[@outcastartickat]

just a fyi you know you can buy gm and ford offset 1 ton rod ends and you dont have to cut the sway bar mounts off.

[@PabstBoys]

+downsouth_ Zj That is true.

[@seth3131]

So I got my JCR OTK kit installed and just got an alignment. My jeep is driving a lot better but i've noticed some bump steer. I use my 97 jeep xj as a daily driver. Is it possible to install a steering stabilizer since the old bracket is cut off? and any chance of the sway bar relocation mount video in the future? Thanks for the awesome video really helped a lot putting together this kit.

[@PabstBoys]

We'll be shooting that next weekend. not sure how long before it comes out though. The stabilizer won't help bump steer. That's usually caused by differing deflection between your drag link vs your track bar. basically not traveling together but pushing away from eachother as the suspension moves up and down. That is for that particular setup, that is...

[@aaronmcdaniel5893]

Hey what happens to the sway bar mourn up that would be cool to see

[@PabstBoys]

Working on that one soon. Been stacked with stuff

[@aaronmcdaniel5893]

Cool was doing the over the knuckle steering on my ZJ and was seeing a good way to do my sway bar mounts

[@PabstBoys]

Hopefully we get that out in time....

[@Vallcon]

Did you reuse old steering stabilizer or does this system replace a need for one at all?

[@billmoser2670]

Hey guys I was curious. Can you run a steering stabilizer with that set up?

[@TheGreatWhiteXJ]

Bill Moser you can but you have to buy the bracket, I paid $50 for it, but its not necessary.

[@PabstBoys]

Bill Moser Ducks101fan summed it up. But you will need it if you do what so many people do when they try to get a better pinion angle, adjust your caster angle in to the negative. Stay smart. Friends don't let friends drive Negative Caster.

[@ruckermuthluxurybuilders9672]

Have you guys uploaded your video for the sway bar end link relocators from JCR?

[@PabstBoys]

Not yet. Got sidetracked.

[@Alpha_fitz]

I Could use that video. Want to do the same thing. Got the parts. Just need the tapered reamer. I guess a bit of welding is required for the sway bar connects?

[@pra3t0rian]

How many pounds is that BFH you guys used to knock out the TRE's? That thing looked mean!

[@PabstBoys]

+pra3t0rian Oh Man, Best investment! It's a 4 lb. sledge with a short handle thats reinforced by 6 spring steel rods. The thing makes Thor blush.

[@AkeemlmeekA]

Literally Nobody: iPhone 12 is coming to stores near you Me: 0:39

[@allanwagner4570]

hey guys great videos whats your take on aussie lockers

[@PabstBoys]

+Allan Wagner Does the trick. Bit of gettin' used to keeping off the gas round corners, but that comes with any auto-locker. and they're noisy as all hell. You'd think somethings broken in there, but thats just how they work. All and all, good in our books.

[@levibutler9900]

1 inch 7 degree reamer??

[@zefrimohd2619]

Does it make for the right hand drive one's?

[@traymuse3810]

Let's see you boys go off roading!

[@johnpenner1318]

Are you guys using the factory pitman arm or a drop?

[@xenfiladex]

so how about that video on sway bar end link relocators?

[@PabstBoys]

+Anthony Baker Working on that soon.

[@xenfiladex]

Cool!

[@jbossnack]

I have a 3" Zone lift kit, and 30" tires on 15" rims. I don't off road much, just occasionally go on trails. would you recommend OTK or UTK from JCR? I need to upgrade my steering but don't know which one is more ideal for me.

[@PabstBoys]

UTK is the short answer. PM me if you need more info.

[@KeliBaB]

Are you running a CV shaft on the passenger side and u joint on driver side?

[@PabstBoys]

got the Jeep that way....

[@choking0smurf]

Did you lose any steering radius? I installed it now have worse turning radius than my pick up truck. Had it at 2 different offroad shops and I Called them up with pictures of the set up and they said they don't know why

[@PabstBoys]

No loss. Still travels the full arc of the steering box without hitting anything else

[@OpelOffroader]

Tzorb one thing that may affect your steeringradius is the fact you have changed your ackerman angle by a bit..

[@daltonwolcott3855]

what size drills did u use?

[@UltraBlarn]

What's the best track bar for this set up on a 6 inch lifted xj?And jcr told me that the pitman arm should be stock and not a dropped one is it okay to have a dropped one with otk? And where's the sway bar relocation video? All the questions cause I'm trying to get this straightened out cause my jeeps the daily lol

[@joe8388]

Iron rock offroad in my opinion sells the best trackbar with the double shear bracket. I wouldn't drop the pitman arm unless you need to. Need to get your trackbar setup so that it is parallel to the drag link, depending on the agnles will determine it you need to drop the pitman arm

[@UltraBlarn]

+joe8388 I've already got a dropped pitman arm and it's not even seated all the way on the cup. I keep getting damn death wobble and it's getting aggravating

[@joe8388]

+cool doesn't necessarily constitute death wobble. make sure every other aspect of your front suspension is good--control arm bushings, ball joints. Is the drag link parallel to the trackbar?

[@UltraBlarn]

+joe8388 ball joints are all good alignment is good, lower control arms are adjustable and they are perfect, and no the track bar isn't parallel with the drag link I think I'm gonna get a jks straight track bar for the angle but It's just so pricey; I might need some upper control arms cause they are stock. my steering gear box is "loose" is what the alignment guy said that's why it's popping when I'm turning the wheel so I got a jcr steering box brace and spacer haven't got it in the mail yet though.

[@joe8388]

In my case, I got my Jeep with a 1" lift and it had terrible death wobble. Put a 4.5" kit on and I have not had it since. But it looks like you are on the right path, strength and make sure you get them angles right. Save some money get the trackbar it will most likely help a great deal

[@LCOOTS]

hey, when you are using a tapered reamer you should run it much slower than you have shown in the video them things are very expensive. they should only be powered by hand.

[@PabstBoys]

They are expensive. The key is to know how to sharpen them as well, but ain't nobody got time for turning reamers by hand.....

[@chadashton7029]

Is clearance the only difference between under and over? Or does one work better than the other?

[@jecko899]

Front sway definitely removed ?

[@bradleycampbell5933]

did you guys score some new tires yet?

[@teebirdy57]

so do you not need a steering stabilizer when doing this upgrade.

[@PabstBoys]

No you don't. They look pretty, but not that necessary.

[@nathanjones6432]

I miss this channel!!

[@zMevor4]

I actually bought this kit because I had gone through many sets of the OEM steering and thought this would be a good upgrade and to save in the long run . But as a matter of fact this product / procedure didn't come out as clean as easy as thought . I have completely installed the steering and can admit ( 0 play in wheel vs stock components ) but , I can not make U- turns as sharp or easy anymore, have interference with my trackbar at certain angles , and have a death wobble going 75mph . Not sure what I could do , I'd appreciate if someone could get back to me with some information , please and thank you

[@antoniorios3856]

Im certainly no expert but ive been through the forums,you could look into a "high-steer" setup, or the WJ knuckle swap which is expensive due to the fabrication required. Im currently planning to do the Wj knuckle swap for better brakes and steering. hope this helps

[@PabstBoys]

Would def look at your alignment angles. Thats' a big part of the death wobble issue. especially your caster angle.

[@berylbarker2255]

Where did ya get that drill from that you use to drill the taper??

[@PabstBoys]

Bought it from the local auto parts/ tool shop

[@berylbarker2255]

Thanks, never seen one before!!

[@andrewmacias4795]

hey i need some help my steering went off and started to unstraighten itself so i straighten it out the way you guy do and it keep going back ... i only have replace the gear box in my steering system..

[@jonknutson7670]

Could you post a link to where I can get that pitman arm?

[@guitarlos666]

Great channel guys! Have you needed to reinforce the coil buckets on the axle? or is it unnecessary?

[@PabstBoys]

+Carlos Miranda don't see a need for it unless you plan on jumping it. but in that case, coil buckets are not your biggest worry.

[@steveobrien8792]

I can't wait till your next upload. Do you guys have a schedule your working on or is it an as new parts come in kind of thing?

[@PabstBoys]

Steve O'Brien It's more about when we have the time to make an episode..... Things have been pretty crazy this summer, but we are working to put more stuff out there. We try to focus on quality over quantity. Thanks for your patience..... We do have a bunch of stuff coming up.

[@coltonjackson3425]

Hey! just curious, what is the install time like on this thing? Also what are your thoughts after driving around on it for awhile?

[@PabstBoys]

Couple of hours, give or take. I love it. feels solid.

[@ianhill9969]

What size reamer bit was used?

[@RicardoMartinez-ug4vv]

you guys drink them beers so good, I ain't even a pbr fan but damn!

[@PabstBoys]

Haha Cheers!

[@allanwagner4570]

how bout a video on locking diff install

[@PabstBoys]

+Allan Wagner got a few other things coming first, but we'll get there...

[@MrSparkn687]

how's the otk steer respond for daily driving. been thinking of doing the same mod.

[@PabstBoys]

+Jarod Martin It's great. Bump steer is gone.

[@Motoman714.]

Cuts sway bar mounts right off lol

[@ramsesvalenzuela2324]

Great video by the way! Because of you guys i want to try PBR! They should pay you guys some money hahahaha

[@PabstBoys]

Ramses Valenzuela Wouldn't that be nice!!

[@ramsesvalenzuela2324]

With that money you guys can buy more parts which means More videos!!! Hahaha

[@PabstBoys]

Ramses Valenzuela We'd be down with that....

[@MrNikeLyon]

What track bar are you using?

[@drbrown5213]

yall are awsome dudes... totally knarly video..

[@PabstBoys]

+DR Brown Cheers Bud! More on it's way...

[@state48overland]

Rip...💨. 'Bout pissed myself when I heard that.

[@DiscountMexi]

Any bump steer issues with new angles ?

[@Basslicks82]

I guarantee it. The trac bar and drag link actually cross. I believe the relocated the trac bar in a later video.

[@rrebaza]

FOR A WJ???

[@Garbage19]

any torque specs for the TREs?

[@PabstBoys]

They change model to model. Tight is tight and don't invite Jim. He over does everything.

[@ninja63639]

35 lbs.

[@SamSam-ke9zy]

Woahhh dude, that angle of the drag link and track bar are not parallel. Is there a problem with bump steer?

[@leroycopeland]

PBR guys ehh nasty stuff I.P.A.!!!!!!!

[@GabolovesPam]

Would this help with the wobble?

[@PabstBoys]

Only if your old linkage had wiggly bits. Best to look elsewhere. Our next episode will probably help more...

[@GabolovesPam]

+Pabst Boys Roadhouse OK thanks

[@FX4_outdoors]

where did y'all get ur reamer at? I got the irwen one and It an't worth a Fu**.

[@PabstBoys]

+Sean Caldwell Got it at a local industrial supplier. Was a pretty penny but worth it over the cheep-o 1/2 time use ones.

[@FX4_outdoors]

+Pabst Boys lucky u lol theres no locals around me that have one. But I was able to finish mine after cutting down my reamer lol

[@PabstBoys]

+Sean Caldwell sometimes you gotta do what you can to finish a job... hahaha Good work Bud!

[@FX4_outdoors]

+Pabst Boys thanks and keep up the good work guys love what y'all do!

[@HomebrewHorsepower]

1 ton steering and CV axles?

[@PabstBoys]

+barrishautomotive Would love to fit that into the budget......

[@codyhawkins9772]

is this setup good for a daily driver?

[@PabstBoys]

Not if you're a highway commuter. Totally street legal though. Take it to work a lot, but it's a bush toy mostly.