10.2 Vengeance Rework IS CRAZY!

[@MarcelianOnline]

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[@Maddawg1984]

So hyped for Vengeance DH and Havoc glad my favorite class is getting the attention it needs

[@MarcelianOnline]

BOUT time to be honest!

[@butterflysrage]

I really hope DH gets a 3rd spec soon.

[@Kotoy1]

@@xHollox that would literally just be a warlock

[@grumpydinosaur2347]

​@@Kotoy1made it somewhat support just not like augmentation but more like of debuff, cc type

[@xHollox]

@@Kotoy1I mean I don’t design the specs or classes lol. It’s coming in the next few weeks. Been datamined already.

[@sacrosanctus318]

I'd like to see a dh spec that uses void, a void hunter.

[@mowgaz3439]

Inquisitor makes literally no sense on a demon hunter. Since Inquisitor is a title of priests.@@xHollox

[@albertlaurentiu4099]

In the last tier list you ranked demon hunter in c for fun. What would you rate it now with the new changes?

[@MadKingLemon]

Tier sets are the new borrowed power. Which is, I think, the best way for them to do borrowed power.

[@monkeysk8er33]

Lmfao have you never played an MMO before, or did you just start playing WoW in BFA? Cause Sets aren't new borrowed power, they've been around, on and off, since VANILLA, bro. God, people are fucking stupid 🤣

[@philwilder5177]

Now finally a DK rework plsssss...

[@moose9626]

Bdk is going to be meta too btw lol, like method players have been doing a lot of ptr and doing tons of healing and dps

[@philwilder5177]

@@moose9626 blood is fine, but frost feels strange and unholy has to many buttons :/

[@moose9626]

@@philwilder5177 Frost kinda feels strange with no gear, but i usually gear up as a tank to get into keys quicker. But for frost if you're dpsing 3+ targets spam Glacial Advance, if its 1-2 targets use DND + Obliterate so it hits more than one target. Use Frost strikes to keep up your buff (unleashed frenzy). As for UHDK its really difficult, situational at times too. the opener is always the same but im assuming itll be weaker next tier. but UHDK still benefits from snap shotting quick makes them very broken lol.

[@PhrozenOrb]

I'm just starting out again and subscribed to WoW after a year break. Is Havoc better or is Vengence the new thing??

[@Rylatar]

Well, Vengeance is a tank and Havoc is DPS so that depends on role you want to perform.

[@Xaxationlorex]

So how many reworks and changes do the other tanks get before blood gets something other then an "aura" buff.

[@Khylaos42]

Sigil of chains is back baby, WOOH!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheFamilyLedger]

Maybe I'm just too casual a player, but I really enjoyed the pre-10.2 Fodder to the Flames.

[@L0rks]

It is huge, enormous and nuts! Thank you for drawing the sigils of the changes in the infospace :)

[@MarcelianOnline]

Glad you like it Lorks, should pick it up in 10.2, it's good for you!

[@L0rks]

Thank you for kind words :)@@MarcelianOnline

[@mattcyr2109]

Did they re-re-work Havoc because these talents are not in the same place or the same numbers as they are now.....

[@syxqid3818]

Everytime i see this vids i wanna play my tanks. And everytime i go into a grp i have dps who pulls everything and the fun is gone :(

[@gregoryshinn9805]

Thanks for the video

[@shafterbarkley7356]

Kind of weird to bring back a parry style tank. With the bdk parry thing happening in SL.

[@kail_6019]

I'm going back to Havoc for this season and it's nice that the tank has also changed

[@MarcelianOnline]

exactly my point too!

[@rachaelbalasingham88]

When can we expect the next Tank Tier list?

[@MarcelianOnline]

Just did one 2 days ago :)

[@rachaelbalasingham88]

@@MarcelianOnline 😅

[@gureidens61]

Great blizz, now u forcing us to use disgusting sigils as havoc... Im not playing DH this season.

[@UNNeero]

OMG! your accent freaks me out every time I watch it. Sorry, I couldn't resist

[@lenox5018]

i want better transmogs for DHs

[@MagiRaz]

If DH becomes a meta tank again im dropping healing forever. Hate trying to heal these things.

[@matthewshull9345]

The new DH has so much parry it be it shouldn't be as spiky

[@LATHSPELL70]

The better the tank, the less you heal him. You’re just playing with bad tanks.

[@Alesz15]

For sure, even applies to brewmaster monk. A good tank is self sufficcient in 95% of scenarios, I started realizing most pug tanks are actually quite bad around 22s some months ago, when the key was being depleted with 0-2 deaths outside of bosses (small pulls, bad routes) and them getting one shotted out of nowhere just by entering a pull. I have my tank trying Prot Warrior for example and taking literally no damage with 400 ilvl in a 20 (maybe with exception of magical) for whole keys while most pug warriors takes moderate damage with 441 ilvl

[@samp3568]

It looks more and more like Vengence/Ret pally/ Augment evoker and Rouge ±1

[@samp3568]

​@@Alesz15I've always said if you play your class well; then you can be quite undergeared and still do well

[@GracideaJo]

Favorite tank

[@MarcelianOnline]

Based, enjoy!

[@sydju]

I want to start tanking 10.2, I'm torn between DK, Druid and DH. Any advice from an experienced tank would be more than welcome! 😊

[@MarcelianOnline]

Pick the one you think is cooler and more fun, personally that would be DH with the sigil playstyle, very fun!

[@Jdtv689]

DH tank plays like dps, bear would be most versatile one while DK would probably be the coolest and most punishing one if you mess rotation up:) I started to tank on DK and it was awesome expieroence. It’s fun tank, feels a bit slow but it still most mobile it even been prolly. And you have CR. DH is probably not the best pug tank as you can help anyone really, you have great aoe stops and silence. Anyways would suggest to Judy’s mom hi k which you like the most from esthetic and fantasy point of view - on the level you will be tanking it will be more important that you love your chat and enjoy it a lot rather than focus on some min max details.

[@face0fmars]

I would pick Druid cuz it's casual friendly. Very easy to play. 2nd choice is DH. Don't recommend DK cuz it's hard with rotation and punishing if you mess up.

[@user-dl1gy9jp9n]

This is my experience. DH fun dps style tank, Druid versatile, very good toolkit with alot to offer, DK simple rotation and you feel unkillable but with a bit less dps. All 3 are fun with a unique flavor of play style. Find the one that works for you. After all it's a game....have some fun and get lost for a bit in the gameplay! Enjoy!

[@sydju]

Thank you for all the lightning fast and amazing replies!!! I think I will go for druid. I was a bit hesitant as people say it will be trash with the new tier set but I do like the idea of shapeshifting and endless options due to its variety in specs/roles. Thank you all again!

[@Moonwired]

I find this an incredibly bad design choice, locking in tank survivability around w/e setbonus the current tier has. They’re treating it like a mandatory talent pick. And it forces you into a complete different playstyle each season. I don’t personally mind that, i love playing all kinds of different builds, but I can imagine how a lot of people finally got use to fiery brand spreading and its suddenly obsolete. I feel like there should be an option to play whatever tank style u’d want. I do like the changes they’re making, i’m already having a lot of fun with DH.

[@knasbollolo]

Live by the glaive as it currently is sucks. It's 0,4% hp/s if you manage to parry perfectly every 5 seconds, which you wont be doing. It's beyond useless.

[@MarcelianOnline]

Damn, we lost another one

[@nonye0]

sems like almost every rework of every class have some sort of big improvement but for warlock lmao that rework was just pet changes. clap.

[@user-dr1cf9ry9l]

the stolen warlock spec...

[@ugladden]

Metamorphosis was a cool warlock spell back in the day.

[@themobster7284]

Wtf... DH is one of the new classes, they dont need rework as hard as other classes... And mostly the DK... The DK do need rework firstly Frost, as it is just bad in pvp, and the class as overall feels bad in pvp and weak... Last time DK did felt invincible and really strong was WOD, in Legion we did lose the way of healing..

[@AshWickramasinghe]

I miss playing wow. I think the biggest problem WoW faces is that, typical wow user, has grown older and can’t commit so many hours for WoW. But wow as is requires you to commit a number of hours per week close to a part time job. On top of it it doesn’t pay you rather you gotta pay to play WoW. The new generation of gamers, aren’t tinkers and problem solvers. They prefer plain straight games with not much of thinking, planning and calculating is required, like fortnight. Wow’s problem is, it demands too much time to be able to play for older players and it’s way too complex for the newer generation.

[@aka_the_dude]

Not going to lie, lots of sigil clicking.....click..click...click doesnt sound fun to me :(

[@riyeltv]

Just use a mouseover for all of the sigils and you are goos