10 Biggest Ever Movie Franchise Mistakes

[@garyb9167]

The problem with the hobbit was turned a 200 page book into more than 1 movie. The roughly 90 min animated movie showed how it could be done. The trilogy was simply greed.

[@hippomancy]

actually the cost of maintaining the level as LOTR necessitated two films... so a single movie just wasn't going to happen. yet, all the extra crap was added in for a third movie... so half-greed.

[@FrancisXLord]

200 page? I'm pretty sure it was more like 400 page if I recall correctly (in paperback anyway). But this in no way invalidates your point, just saying.

[@JeffLarge-ij9dp]

The shortest book became three movies. Would have been awesome if it was just one.

[@garyb9167]

@@FrancisXLord I am not 100% confident in that number myself. It has been more decades that I care to specify since I have looked at that book.

[@kylethoren1949]

@@FrancisXLord 310 is the official count

[@jamesallan5914]

For me, the bit where it was clear the X-Men franchise had given up on any kind of consistency was Angel/Archangel's appearance in Apocalypse, who had previously appeared quite prominently in the third film.

[@zonesproductions]

As far as I'm concerned, Casino Royal is the only worthwhile Craig Bond film.

[@MarioCindric]

Skyfall was good also.

[@horseclock6454]

I didn't watch any of them until like three were out, I remember watching Casino Royale and thinking "Damn this is actually pretty great! I can't wait to see the rest of them!" An hour into the next one, which I can't even remember the name or which one it was, and I felt so bamboozled and lied to.

[@poorvagang5629]

Stop

[@ericrobins5188]

In all fairness, X-Men timeline has always been like this. To be very honest with you X-Men is the truest to its comic book continuity in live action format.

[@CassandraY]

I was going to comment about how the X-Men comic books are so much worse with the time travel and never aging superheros. That's their whole thing at this point.

[@austintrousdale2397]

TG for the animated series. Not perfect, but a much closer approximation to what it was like following Uncanny X-Men’s storylines from late 70s through early 1980s.

[@MsOpportunity68]

With regards to the comics though, a year's worth X-Men comics does not equal a years worth of real time. She was 13½ when she was first introduced in issue 129 of Uncanny X-Men, in January of 1980. She didn't turn 14 until sometime around issue 165, which mentions that her 14th birthday passed without her realising it during their current adventure in January of 1983.

[@antoniacosta6221]

Wasn’t Saw supposed to end with 3? I’m pretty sure that’s why they killed off Kramer and Amanda.

[@FrancisXLord]

The BIG problem with Laurie and Michael Myers not being related, a la Halloween (2018), is that you then give Myers a motivation for killing. The point you made in the video, about his killing being random, is thrown out if he comes back to Haddonfield to take revenge on Laurie. At least, if they are related and we don't understand why that triggers the reaction it does in Myers, then you hold onto some randomness. You lose it all the moment you make Laurie the target 40 years later. That's dumber than them being related.

[@rpriske]

Killing characters - even Ripley - was not a mistake. Bringing Ripley BACK was a mistake.

[@myplane150]

I actually enjoyed the Hobbit trilogy. Smaug was awesome and the movies were just dumb fun. They were nowhere near as good as the original trilogy (although, Frodos and Sams interactions annoyed me to no end) but were good in their own way.

[@MarioCindric]

Desolation of Smaug was masterpiece. Problem was with 3rd film which had ti cut off many fights and battles and whole movie is actually one big battle. But when you watch exzended version it's also great movie, but theatrical version is very flawless.

[@Iomhar]

The Hobbit is stretching ONE film into three, not two.

[@captainspaulding5963]

If you actually knew what you were talking about, when Jackson was trying to get The Hobbit made, HE wanted 2 movies, the STUDIO wanted 3, which is what Jules was talking about.

[@Iomhar]

@captainspaulding5963 it still is stretching one film into three. The whole Hobbit would fit nicely in a single film.

[@traj7196]

I choose to believe that Blofeld wasn't actually behind all of Bond's other villains but was rather just using it to screw with Bond psychologically.

[@bendeywendy8065]

Head canon accepted

[@StoffelDilligas]

To be fair, they were obviously paying homage/parody of Goldmember.....

[@starscreamthecruel8026]

Regarding Halloween, I think the idea of Laurie and Micheal being related, is actually a good one, it was just handled poorly. Even crazy people have motives behind their madness, this is just the way the human brain works and though a lot of the time, it feels like their logic is strained to normal people, it's still there. If Micheal had just been a mindless killer, he would not have been able to use stragedy or decide which path to take on his rampages, would have been too predictable and too easy for the cops to take down in the end.

[@dinomonzon7493]

Universal's aborted/DOA "Dark Universe" should've been cited- it tried to start another shared universe and tried to compress what makes the Marvel Cinematic Universe successful in just ONE failed, pathetic first effort in "The Mummy".

[@jesusromanpadro3853]

The Mommy was a failure, but the next movie, The Invisible man, was a good horror movie that didn't need to be part of a shared universe.

[@DCunn_82]

The Force Awakens gets FAAAAARRRRRRR too much credit!

[@getnohappy]

Star Wars should be #1. I truly cannot fathom what went into the decision to 'meh let's just wing it' on arguably the world's most recognizable IP that you just paid $4bn for

[@markchapman6800]

and "let's give the directing duties for the 2nd-last one to someone who thinks that their desire to 'subvert expectations' was more important than leaving the final movie anywhere satisfying to go."

[@majorprofit]

I actually really like the love affair in the Hobbit movies. It’s the contrast between them that is the best part. It also does not end with happy ever after. Although for me it would have been fun to see how their relationship go on from the last fights. It was one of the very very few things that I enjoyed watching the movies.

[@dkarras]

Very weird phrasing. Who is there to “let” George “have free reign”. It’s his story, his company to do w/ as he pleased. Nobody let him or previously didn’t let him do what he wanted. And his “reliance on SFX” stems from the fact that he’s was an independent filmmaker who financed the prequels w/ his own money / company. The whole point of developing CGI was to get the most bag for his buck & to be able to do things he previously couldn’t. And ppl forget that before the Special Editions you could see the matte lines around the ship etc.

[@rolandcook2556]

Selling Star Wars to Disney

[@pacmiller7564]

One of the biggest mistakes ever made EVER!!

[@calebmaybin6896]

I think Quantum was supposed to be the ultimate villainous organization because SPECTRE was owned by other parties that EON didn't have the rights to. The video games used OCTOPUS as the stand-in name and Quantum was based on SPECTRE (Color Codenames instead of Numbers). Once they finally acquired the rights they immediately used it though it messed with the flow as the already large Quantum was just a subdivision of SPECTRE (They made a big deal about a guy named Guy Haines being an advisorto the Prime Minister of England yet nothing ever came of it.)

[@justifiedfun9811]

Why didn't Disney map out 6 movies as soon as they bought Star Wars.

[@bozalini]

In Halloween, I prefer Michael and Laurie to be related.

[@jallen8013]

Personally I think a cool concept would have been a Predator V. Terminator crossover, where in this shared universe it's learned that the T800 was specifically modeled as a replicant of Arnold's "Dutch" from the original Predator. Think about a showdown between predators and a machine modeled after the human who bested one of their hunters...

[@bheast86]

actually, the LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy was badly paced, doing three movies when they could have run to four, and throwing in extra stuff when there was already too much superior Tolkein material to get through. You missed the very biggest: JJ Abrams STAR TREK: Rewriting the past of the mythos in a manner that didn't even make sense by the rewrite's precepts, and wrecking decades of much better storytelling.

[@leemarie414]

I love to debate. I can't debate here. This list is perfect.

[@zaturnneo]

Prey, was pretty damn good.

[@hunterrousseau3770]

I'm just surprised that giving out too much content, giving the TV miniseries the budgets of their movies, and rushing to make Kang the Conqueror the next big bad for "The Multiverse Saga" for the Marvel Cinematic Universe didn't make the list over here on this list

[@blender124]

Part of the Star Wars sequels issues were that George Lucas had a plan for the movie which Disney had but they didn’t use it. Plus they had a wealth of extended universe materials and they didn’t use it. Kennedy then had the balls to say they didn’t have any materials to draw on. Like come on you had dozens of extended universe books and games to use as inspiration for the movies.

[@wolfscythespk]

It’s so funny that Deadpool and wolverine actually makes fun of the timeline for the X-Men movies😂

[@SilverSpectre266]

Feels like every other list they managed to wiggle in a way to talk about Newt and Hicks in these lists.

[@Jamal-bl7yh]

That's Easy Not Adopting The Seville Surname earlier Alvin and The Chipmunks I hate this franchise to be clear but for 8 years I thought Alvin, Simon and Theodore already had Dave Seville's surname given he was their legal guardian like In the Ruby Spears and Nickelodeon versions of this IP's history but the end of The Road Chip where our trio adopt the name seville

[@Mew_Mokuba_Akari]

There was an outline JJ Abrams had for the Star Wars sequel trilogy. But for some reason he was kicked out of the sequel in favor of Rian Johnson. JJ gave Rian his notes for where he was going with the sequel. Rian turned and trashed it. Preferring to destroy what was built up and create his own. Then when that movie failed they dragged JJ back to salvage what he could.

[@bendeywendy8065]

Major Cluster Headache? I've found my superhero name!

[@Spike-ex5bp]

Terminator's judgement day IS inevitable because if skynet is never created then it never takes over the world and never makes terminators which means that there is no resistance and there is no reason for Kyle reese to be sent back in time which means NO John Connor. The Terminator franchise LITERALLY can't exist WITHOUT judgement day being a threat

[@peachypietro9980]

Terminator Zero was actually decent, imo. Not exactly a retcon, it adds to the narrative and themes of Terminator without even talking about John Connor. Although it has its own problems, I consider it a refreshing addition and look forward to what comes next.

[@Lowemsaber]

The "Saw" series has ten entries in total, not nine.

[@TheTonyahawk]

The Sequel Trilogy killed my love for the Star Wars saga, it might be too late but we definitely need a reboot or the Thrawn series.

[@zooropa04]

I am STILL not over Newt and Hicks in Alien 3....

[@bluegold1026]

Moral of the story: DO NOT let profit-hungry movie studio executives make critical creative decisions.

[@lulukomadori9651]

4:46 Ehhhh, more so John than amanda but overall they nailed alot mistakes, good for them

[@mare8992]

Jules: what happened to your "one per list?"

[@JB-mk3ow]

All of the problems mentioned can be summed up as greed. However, the studios are businesses. It's not surprising that the chance to make a pile of cash quickly will always beat concerns like satisfying endings or common sense.

[@Joemama55122]

Haven't you already put out this list?

[@hornet718]

Let's call it what it is, Hollywood Cash Grab. Let's take a story people love and paid money for and squeeze it until we can't get anymore money. It is shameless that Hollywood does this and the viewing public has responded by not watching these overly bloated films. And every movie franchise listed here knowingly produced content in the expectation that fans are mindless and will give their money over to them without thinking. This is one of the reasons why I have stopped "going to the movies" and look to independent films and older genres for entertainment. Heck, I have even wrote my own stories and they are pretty darn good....Like Prince once said, I am not going to wait for someone to make great music, I will do it myself. And many novice filmmakers are doing just that. Let's support them and tell Hollywood to sit in the corner until it learns from its mistake (intentionally committing the wrong action to achieve a favored result).

[@Marleymdw]

I love these and this is my favourite movie to start on! I love the mix of easy/hard, in movie/out of movie, and the just fun data sex topic we all love! 16/20. My wrong answers: 1 ship design 2 statue height 3 torpedoes 4 authorisation code

[@jamessweebe373]

I think the X-Men movies parallel their comic counterparts with the floating timeline/sliding timeline. As time passes in the real world, the characters don't age much, if at all. It's best not to over analyze it.

[@unclerat2131]

I used to go to about a movie a week. When I had problems watching a film because of cataracts I stopped going. After surgery, we had the lockdown, and I still didn't go. Now, with good sight and no lockdown, I have been to three movies, and one was only because I had to use a theater restroom, and they would only let me use it if I got a ticket. I should have shit my pants instead of watching that garbage. Something about a guy going to Vietnam to give friends some beer.

[@AntonioNeto-mo8yv]

I don’t think there was problem with the way the DCEU was originally planned. Watching Man Of Steel, BVS, Suicide Squad, WW and Snyder’s JL is a pretty good experience that fans enjoy. With the exception of JL, all of those movies were huge at the box office. It was working. I don’t know why people keep acting like BVS was not a commercial success. And, more importantly, ignoring how well SS and WW performed immediately after, proving that the reception to BVS wasn’t bad, or at least not bad enough to make people not want to give the DCEU a second chance. Look at how much The Marvels and Joker 2 dropped from their predecessors. It’s pretty clear now that BVS wasn’t as badly received as initially believed.

[@jamesallan5914]

While the films were enjoyable popcorn-munchers, the point was their overinflated budgets meant they struggled to turn a profit at the box office, which whichever way you cut it, spells doom for a franchise. The only two films in the DCEU that turned a serious profit were Wonder Woman and Aquaman, both of which were strong standalone films, but notably came out after Justice League. Makes you wonder what could have happened if Warner Brothers had kept their powder dry and found their footing before doing the big crossover film.

[@gestaltdude]

I think people would almost have been able to forgive the extra Hobbit movie if it wasn't for the studio demanding the vapid Legolas-Tauriel-Kili love triangle sub-plot. No offense to any of the actors et al, they did what they could with what was given them. Frankly I never got the impression Legolas really cared that much for Tauriel in the first place, with his daddy issue being the main motivation.

[@empurress77]

IMO: The Bond movies failed because of not enough gadgets. For me it was the main and mostly only reason to watch them.

[@azcomicgeek]

DCEU required fans to know the backstory but the Directors and screenwriters had no clue about the characters. The original Superman movie was the best and it was a horrible canon mess. Had Salkind ever heard of the DC hero before he was hired?

[@joelbest2424]

Sadly, the Hobbit - one, two or three movies - just wasn't very good. They mucked around with a terrific and really straightforward story and made it a mess.

[@JoeDatorCartoonist]

Terminator films are like Charlie Brown specials: only the first two are any good.

[@jacko666]

You missed the part where Prey saved the predator universe

[@carl0061999]

I don't think First Class fit all that well into the original 3 X-Men films.

[@newelljoseph5060]

So letting the creator of their own story having free reign over their own work is a bad thing?

[@seanmalloy0528]

Making "The Hobbit" a trilogy might not yave been Jackson's idea. The comics X-Men are based off have been going on since the 1960s so the prequel movies are accurate there.

[@stephenclaridge1896]

you forgot, Marvel Universe. Making the movies an television series connected. I do not watch Disney + and have not watched any of the series

[@Toledotourbillion]

I think Marvel Phase 5 should be included here for continuing to hire bad writers to pen their scripts. Look at what they did to my boy Black Widow.😢

[@hunterrousseau3770]

No 3️⃣ Honestly, you'll think the "Star Wars" movies had better consistency than these here. Hopefully, they have better luck over at Marvel Studios now that Marvel got them and the Fantastic Four back here ❌4️⃣

[@LemonTree9280]

Bond jumped the shark for me way back at Quantum...just bloated overly confusing and "clever" plots that to me, didnt make sense the more you think

[@guyincognito9831]

The MCU: continuing after Endgame

[@hunterrousseau3770]

Hopefully, "Avengers: Secret Wars" soft rebooting fix any mistakes in the current MCU continuity here and even give us that proper, and unified Marvel Universe with *every* character home in it after getting everyone back after selling them away a long time ago before here 'cause Marvel was going bankrupt at the time before then here

[@salentoq]

Someone hasn't seen Prey

[@jacobdrolet4262]

What about the transformers franchise too. I kind like the hobbit trilogy also Star Wars episode 8 the last Jedi not the rise of skywalker like to forget that one too.

[@Thatdud21]

Did you not watch the last 3 Halloween movies they are very clearly related

[@DreynHarry]

before watching.... selling Lucas Films and Marvel to Disney? Everything else would be a joke.

[@rorylynch7775]

You've made this video like five times already........

[@captainspaulding5963]

It's almost like there's HUNDREDS of movies that fit this title, or something like that.

[@rorylynch7775]

​​@@captainspaulding5963 that would be true if they used the hundreds of other movies that fit the title, instead of using the exact same small group of movies/franchises over and over again for lists with slightly different titles

[@jamesmapletoft4541]

Terminator Dark Fate has a good movie trapped inside of it. It’s an almost there film that frustratingly fails to stick the landing. A waste of talent all around. Sad face

[@amymurphy721]

i dont understand all the hate for the hobbit trilogy..it was a good trilogy

[@ayesnapsnots]

Prey was pretty good

[@jessemeyer86]

Whoa never been this early

[@DarkLorde]

Say what you will about the Star Wars prequels, at least George Lucas knew what he wanted when he started and it made perfect sense when it was done! (Not counting the weird death of Padme of course)

[@MrCaerbannog]

I'm not actually all that convinced that he did have a firm plan where to take the prequels. Yes, he knew what he had to do in general terms to maintain continuity with Episodes IV-VI, but a lot of The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones honestly felt like filler, with most of the actual set-up for the Original Trilogy being crammed into Revenge of the Sith.

[@Clannluan]

IT's no Lord of the Rings, but The Hobbit Trilogy is great - leave it alone :)

[@nmbalo]

I honestly can't agree with the 1st take. DC could have gone to route of their animated movie and just start off with a justice league movie and build the world from there. In the Justice league it gave small introduction to most the characters while having an amazing villain. The problem with live action was the terrible story from both directors

[@ravens-crypt]

Have you watched the injustice animated film because that was a terrible animated film in terms of story line adaptation like a story like injustice should of been a Trilogy to do the characters and the plot justice .

[@nmbalo]

@ravens-crypt when I'm talking about animated justice league movies I mean War, that one had character introduction and world building. Injustice was a trash movie I admit but War is amazing

[@ravens-crypt]

@@nmbalo you didn’t I just used it as a example sorry I tried to be engaging with you since you mentioned a DC animated film over something I thought we shared a opinion on.

[@nmbalo]

@ravens-crypt I agree with ur comment on the Injustice movie but I think even if we were given 3 movies it wouldn't have been good. Even the comics didn't handle the issue well. I never understood where the stand point for batmans side really was. To the point that even the gods said that superman methods would literally end needless conflict. I think the main issue with injustice is bad writers

[@garyb9167]

The problem with the Star Wars dequel trilogy is simple. Ryan Johnson was allowed to do whatever the hell he wanted and was not given strictures to keep the story line consistent.

[@CassandraY]

Disney has no idea what to do with their IPs at this point. The people in charge are chasing easy money and destroying the brand in the process

[@yellalot101]

#9: Hiring Kathleen Kennedy

[@GreggaraZZi]

I see you still didn't learn what went wrong with Josstice League (changing the script) or the Disney SW Trilogy (never having any plan and destroying the original trilogy characters). I don't understand why I still get your videos...

[@glenharper3875]

Hoffman was trash and they killed and Amanda & jigsaw way too early agreed 👍🏻

[@maltesephil]

AVP reqiuem, utter shite

[@dsanchez9703]

Cool

[@TimTE01]

Laurie wasn't dead in H4-6. She left, fearing Meyers' return. That raises other questions, but not the one you made.

[@KyleWillLivingston]

Sidelining Sidney Prescott

[@thegraydirewolf9325]

My issue with the latest justice league attempt was simply josh whedon. They should've shelved it until Zach was ready. Josh absolutely tuined our chances to see Darkseid anytime soon.

[@VexxtheVoid]

Terminator: Zero explain that's it's split timelines. There's an original timeline where Kyle Reese isn't John's father. We see the timeline from moment he went back it's not the true original.

[@CassandraY]

They do have a neat explanation, but these franchises need to spend more time explaining it. They just slap a 'time travel' sticker on the movie and call it good. They need to put more in the movie so it's not a gimmick

[@jaegerbomb269]

Well, admitting the Sequels were a failure, huh? Took you all long enough. Last Jedi was shit.

[@fredricclack7137]

👍 🌑 FATE! 🤖

[@Amateracu1991DFFOO]

Kathleen Kennedy needs to go back to fetching coffee for real producers and directors

[@BollyBBollington]

get over it lmao

[@blvd6969]

Agreed

[@roadkillofficialaustralia]

The BIGGEST mistake in film history... the fact that Han, Luke and Leia were NOT in one scene together in the "Force Awakens"! Kathleen Kennedy's legacy will be the woman who screwed up this opportunity of the Star Wars franchise!

[@christophermerlot3366]

Aliens frickin sucks. Just a by rote action movie. And Alien 4 is brilliant.

[@TheDeviantPro]

No, just no.