10 Box Office Animation Bombs (@RebelTaxi)

[@RebelTaxi]

Here's a vid edited in 2 days as filler. I didn't want to do this but I had to. I have 2 Videos Delayed: Michael Jacksons Halloween Review: CBS Copy Right Claim The Adult Flinstones Remake by Seth McFarlane: Waiting for insider source to dish some more info It's edited with less audio cues from what I'm reviewing edited between my dialog. I dunno if you all prefer less of that. Feels like an earlier Pan Vid.

[@WilfredCthulu]

RebelTaxi It's fine, as long as you like what you're doing. The delays are ok, don't rush yourself and end up making crap.

[@Yapmanpac]

CBS? Copyright claim? That's unheard of!

[@8loodyrain]

Foreskin

[@Pontiac23]

Bruv its good dont overwork ya self

[@nostairwayy]

its ok pan

[@Henskelion]

I remember in an animation history course I took, the professor told a story about how while attending the wrap-up party for the Iron Giant he was talking with Brad Bird about the movie's commercial failure, and was about to tell him a joke but shut up just as Brad's kid walked up to him. The joke went like this: "Hey Brad, they finally figured out how they're gonna stop the spread of AIDS; they're going to let Warner Bros. distribute it!"

[@Watagachi]

lmfao

[@snickerblizzanimation6044]

Ooooooof

[@dolphinz317]

There's probably some truth in there

[@HolyGoddessMotherAnne]

@Stephanie Slayer Stop with the goddamn attitude.

[@AviKunt]

Why would they be talking about it being a commercial failure.. at a wrap party? Lol

[@vitaliybakal7356]

my brother first job was working several days as telemarketer for that Oz cartoon. In Ukraine. In office staffed with ukrainians who could barely speak english.

[@RebelTaxi]

Wow

[@Ben-uc8ms]

Damn, how the hell did he manage to get through that?

[@AtariiWave]

Iron Giant and Cats don't Dance deserved more.

[@MrTayloreh]

Fun fact: the great Gene Kelley's last credit is as a consultant for the dance sequences for Cats Don't Dance.

[@tonyshum5569]

cats don't dance, the iron giant, Atlantis the lost empire and treasure planet are all great amazing and stunning movies that deserved better

[@MysteryMii]

Blame lack of marketing. Why do I have to keep pointing out that good marketing is very important for a film to succeed?

[@madcap3450]

@@MysteryMii honestly I blame the fact that the world loves garbage, especially in the realm of children's entertainment. Did you know the minions movie made more than triple what spirited away did?

[@oldmanlogan9616]

Osmosis Jones is great too.

[@AfroNinja360]

It makes me happy that Cats Don't Dance and Iron Giant got the respect they deserved later on

[@AfroNinja360]

It also hurts me when Henry Selick's movies don't do too well, I love his films so much, especially Coraline

[@BugsyFoga]

@@AfroNinja360 yeah , monkeybone looked freaking visually amazing , it was sad no one sawit

[@GreenWingSpino]

Those movies are underrated classics!

[@Launchpad05]

And Warner Bros. is probably kicking themselves that Brad Bird is having greater success at Pixar.

[@bobisnotaperson]

And Titan AE. That's a classic in my house.

[@uhhhsabrina9359]

I remember crying and having nightmares when I saw the Mars Needs Moms trailer back in elementary school, it actually scared me to look at

[@mood2474]

Same, I had nightmares that some aliens were gonna take my mom.

[@SotLegend]

Same

[@specticulrtainment1809]

i remember seeing the commercial as a kid and i actually wanted to see it but my mom didn't let me watch it.

[@avremirine8986]

I had nightmares from Osmosis Jones when I was really little thanks to main villain Thrax.

[@Korbsio]

I had never seen the trailers and went to see it for my birthday because I like space. Boy was that a bad idea.

[@carterjones3066]

When I was 9 I spent two weeks in the hospital for chronic illness. No matter how much pain I was in, watching Mars Needs Moms still sticks out as one of the worst part of that stay.

[@BugsyFoga]

I'm must legitimately admit , it was sad to see some of these animated film bomb at the box office , considring a good portion of them are underrated classics.

[@SomebodyStoopid]

Nathaniel Foga yeah man, mars needs moms is a classic. In fact, thats the only classic on the list

[@averyjenson]

Man I can’t believe classics like Strange Magic and Delgo never made their money back :( how saadd

[@courtneyjohnsonhaber4591]

I loved Titan AE

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@@SomebodyStoopid How considered Mars Needs Moms a "classic"? It's considered one of the worst movies in history. But I'm glad that movie stopped the cringe of Yellow Submarine reboot.

[@BugsyFoga]

8Kazuja8 I say monkeybone especially never deserved to bomb , that movie was legitimately visually amazing

[@PuppetMasterIX]

"Delgo - The Duke Nukem Forever of animation." The Thief and the Cobbler would like a word.

[@VCJunkie]

“The Thief and the Cobbler - The Half-Life 3 of animation.”

[@Web720]

Nah, Theif actually released.

[@foxymetroid]

The Thief and The Cobbler could have been great if it weren't for the execs changing it at the last second to better compete with Disney's Aladdin. Duke Nukem Forever could have been great if it hadn't been for the developer getting obsessed with making the game look better than any other game by using the latest engine someone else made. There's a reason the best looking games often use engines created by said games' developers. By the time the engine is ready, you already know how it works and half the game's already using it.

[@chillplayer1234]

VCJunkie I strongly disagree on that.

[@VerdeMorte]

Actually if you watch it muted with closed captions it's not so bad. But the animation is still cheapened knowing how hard he worked on something that will never be done justice...

[@moki4011]

Dude that Iron Giant marathon... I thought I was the only person who remembered it. Pretty sure it was in 2002, as it aired on my 7th Birthday c: Just glad I’m not the only person to remember this airing all day long. It really is a fantastic movie.

[@kc_9970]

Let's be glad that we got the extended cut from 2015.

[@chayden153]

I recently bought the special edition blu-ray and it has the extremely interesting documentary on it about how the film bombed, but became a cult classic

[@cesarleonab]

Why yes i remember Jared from Subway.

[@theirateinfernape2771]

I wish I didn't tho xD

[@maxtheleopard]

I remember him handing me a card for twenty free meals if I didn't tell people where he hid the bodys

[@chaseosborn9323]

He's still lookin good...eating those Subway sandwiches...his name is Jared and he's still lookin good.

[@VerneDoran]

what's he up to these days?

[@otaking3582]

I'm pretty sure Deadpool killed him

[@JigguMigs]

The crazy thing about Mars Needs Moms, I remember it being HEAVILY advertised. I remember seeing constant commercials for it on TV, hell even youtube ads at the time. But hey, the film never looked that good in the first place.

[@rickmarr4478]

Yep the movie that killed a great studio, Press X to Pay Respects.

[@dafiltafish]

>When you remember that WB almost killed off western 2D animation.

[@marniedoodad6985]

Almost?

[@marcimorgan403]

They still do 2d animation on dvd

[@comettamer]

Did they? Seems like they actually did pretty damn well. Static Shock, Jackie Chan Adventures, Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS and LOADS of others that are classic 2D Western Animation. They might not have created em, but they did fund them pretty well. Oh, how about the Animaniacs? Pinky and the Brain?

[@mariajimenafigueroa8311]

Well, you can blame the bad released dates and bad marketing

[@staringcorgi6475]

It's still dead if you exclude tv shows

[@Larry]

The best thing I remember about Strange Magic is a quote from a review that said, This is what Frozen would have looked like if LucasArts bought Disney instead of the other way around :D

[@TubboDaKittyCat]

Larry Bundy Jr I love that I read your comment in your voice Larry. Lol

[@stevenrichardson5176]

Games that yanks can’t w a n k

[@slickryder]

You bitch stop commenting

[@ccateni28]

Oh, that would have been better than the acutal frozen movie.

[@thema1998]

@@ccateni28 That's a bit of a stretch.

[@BunkerSquirrel]

"Remember Jared from Subway?" >Video cuts out

[@Tornado1994]

Chris Hansen: Hi, You're Jared From Subway,right? Jared: Uh...Yeah. Chris: Why Doncha have a Seat right there?

[@SurprisinglyDynamicAnimeSideC]

VideosThatEndTooSoon

[@iiiDeuueaughiii]

#iremeberjared 😰

[@SouthernInvasion]

Made me guilty belly laugh.

[@zacharytracy3797]

A perfect analogy to Mars Needs Moms.

[@househendoe7549]

I remember seeing Titan: A. E. in theaters. About a 1/3 left after the opening scene, many of those parents were vocally upset a Kids Film opened with the genocide of humanity, Earth blown up and a few of their kids were upset about that. Good thing they left before all the not so subtle adult targeted jokes, I personally liked the film and own it but I understood their beef in retrospect (Still don't agree), I was already watching Mutant Football League and Aeon Flux so I got to enjoy my slushee and animated Matt Damon. Also I think the same Animators worked on Heavy Metal 2000...

[@labrinthi7328]

House Hendoe I FRICKING LOVED TITAN AE AS A KID AND SO DID MY MOM IM SO GLAD SHE LET ME WATCH IT AS A KID

[@sarahpalintellsajoke]

About the only thing I remember regarding Titan A.E. is its Super Bowl ad.

[@connorlee3704]

Nightmare Before Christmas, a movie where Santa Claus-a practical god to children-gets tortured by the Boogieman Little Shop of Horrors style: "..."-parents. Titan AE, film where Earth-just the place kids live and is not as important or beloved to them as Santa Claus-gets blown up: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"-parents.

[@hoodedman6579]

@@connorlee3704 Are you really trying to say the Earth is less important than Santa Claus? Besides, he just gets kidnapped, they don't ever show any of the actual torture.

[@hoodedman6579]

@The Great SteveO No, it's rated PG.

[@skunthundler]

Osmosis Jones will always be my favorite Gundam arc.

[@friedpanpizza9124]

I laughed so hard at the Jared from subway commercial at the end

[@TerryTettey]

Remember Jared from Subway? xD

[@Tornado1994]

Chris Hansen: Hi, You're Jared From Subway,right? Jared: Uh...Yeah. Chris: Why Doncha have a Seat right there?

[@salmapesquera4142]

fried pan pizza ikr? Same here 😂😂

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

@@Tornado1994 Okay, I've been oddly binging Chris Hansen videos here lately and the timing of this is perfect!

[@plebugen9659]

it makes me kind of depressed to know that some of my favorite western animated films are complete comercial flops so they are never getting a sequel/something like it. Atlantis, Treasure plantet, the road to el dorado

[@RebelTaxi]

If the original Tron bombed and can get a sequel 30 years later, anything can

[@plebugen9659]

@@RebelTaxi Hope you are right I rely do but even if Treasure plantet got a sequel It would never look as good as the original. Disney made damn sure to kill off its 2d division with that one, and later with princess and the frog

[@jaclynsupkoff8577]

Atlantis actually got a terrible direct to video sequel. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis:_Milo%27s_Return

[@_PinkiePie.]

@@jaclynsupkoff8577 God, that sequel sucked so much ass it was like suffering through Mulan 2 all over again.

[@justafox5356]

Pinkie Pie fun fact: that movie was effectively a series of pilot episodes for an animated series that was cancelled and thus the animations were mashed together into one film. A Frankenstein’s monster of a sequel sewn together with the scrapped animations of a cancelled tv show.

[@Larry]

Watchmojo steal from you too? Welcome to the party pal :D

[@JJULLER]

DON'T WATCH MOJOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Brandebury]

I know right? Next time on matchmojo: top 10 stolen top 10 ideas from other youtube channels.

[@misterzygarde6431]

How would you feel about a Diddy Kong Racing sequel that added characters from My Hero Academia, Little Witch Academia, Kirby, The Amazing World of Gumball, **Persona 5,** Family Guy, Sonic, Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Digimon Tamers, The Simpsons, Invader Zim, Pokemon Sun and Moon anime including Serena from X and Y, Crash Bandicoot and RWBY with Haruko from FLCL, Hat Kid, Popuko and Pipmi from Pop Team Epic, Bomberman, Doom Slayer, Beavis and Butthead also being there? Kirby gets pushed as a second Protagonist to go along with Diddy Kong. Imagine racing against Akko with Izuku, shooting a missile at Gumball, Gumball, Izuku, and Akko smoking pot with their friends, throwing an oil slick at Ren, Ryuji using a bat to knock opponents sideways, Ann using her whip to whip a nearby rival, Yusuke asking Momo if she’d be painted nude, Fregley putting his foot in his mouth to distract the other drivers so they can crash, Futaba showing everyone rule 34, Makoto dodging bombs that Bomberman planted on the race track, etc.

[@crowns9966]

@@misterzygarde6431 Bro, summarize that please

[@misterzygarde6431]

Col Friday *NO*

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

Yeah, I remember that Cartoon Network used to air Iron Giant throughout the whole day on Thanksgiving I believe. Probably the only enjoyable part of Thanksgiving for me.

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

@Mighty Raccoon Heyyyy Mighty

[@AlexThe1Menace]

Hey, Thanksgiving is cool yo Also, hi Weegee

[@rushmaverick1923]

WeegeeSlayer - I remember that too and to be honest, that special kinda had me burnt out from watching The Iron Giant for a while. Maybe it's fact that there was nothing else good on that day, or maybe it's the fact that I was 6 at the time and just now discovering Cartoon Network, but being forced to re-watch the same thing over and over with nothing else better to do made me not want to watch again for a while, no matter how good the movie was.

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

@@AlexThe1Menace Heyyyyy Alex

[@rainworldfan7757]

:pensive:

[@jasminelav.332]

I remember Monkey Bone was actually kinda popular among the 18-25 set. I think MTV even aired it once or twice. Guess the super-experimental art style and "mostly sex jokes" writing was right up college kid's alley.

[@TommyPezMaster]

One's you miss: The Trumpet of The Swan (Sony's version of The Wild) Igor (It gain a cult following already?) Leap (Nobody wants to see Chicken Little w/ humans) The Wild (Groin jokes, you know, for kids) 8 Crazy Nights (Guilty pleasure for me) Free Birds (Does this even count? I heard it's a smash hit at the box office)

[@RebelTaxi]

Do'h

[@BENDROWNED33]

@@RebelTaxi Make a part 2

[@wiibrockster]

Igor was pretty good

[@ryanwalterson5490]

He also forgot A Troll in Central Park. That only made $71 thousand!

[@lemmys.kelton8183]

I like Igor

[@BentigiriIsCewl]

I like how your videos make ads *slightly* more tolerable, due to them being scheduled and not just randomly cutting the video off(almost always when someone is talking). I know it's a small thing but I flipping love the fact that you do that! I thank you, Thank you so much for that. More channels need to do that.

[@funnychimp7738]

I always wondered why the "commercial breaks" were in there. I have yt premium so I don't see ads, but good to know.

[@brickfighter1320]

You really love using the Sonic Unleashed Rank E theme

[@justbny9278]

It's a great theme man

[@doom5895]

its fits perfectly

[@horaciosi]

That song understands Pan.

[@Chuuuugs]

I didnt realize it was even possible for a movie to make under a million in the box office. Im gonna need that delgo documentary sometime soon

[@fataleflare]

Chuuugs I’ve never ever heard of it till now that would be a great video.

[@arthas640]

It's crazy, but some movies will spend tens of millions on graphics but then they literally wont even advertise for it. I only found out about Strange Magic until it made it to DVD and then I was like, "wait, this was in theaters?"

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

Adam sandlers The Cobbler. 14 thousand dollar box office grand total. Not 14 million 14 thousand.

[@SteeZy644]

@@ConnorNotyerbidness I didn't even know it made it to theatres considering it's a Netflix film. Sandler probably made all his money back through Netflix's paycheck anyway.

[@xWeMaketheFuturex]

Can someone please make a cut of Osmosis Jones without the nasty bill murray parts. I love the movie if it means fast forwarding through the liveaction

[@goldylover1000]

Marisa Torres mega.nz/#!Ax9VzAwL!0I2l2UTEdHyYgoMWvdyT91UyzdwG4Zx2oc-04EHph-g here’s my version of the movie I cut 99% of the live action scenes and I added some deleted scenes from the dvd in there keep in mind the deleted scenes are low quality but the scenes are when jones sees frank on a screen at the amusement park/an extended scene at the donut place and a longer car chase scene where jones says what the hell is a uvula instead of heck I also nicknamed the movie ojac which stands for osmosis Jones the animators cut

[@koolkidkameronsir6088]

Marisa Torres The movie would still trash even without the Bill Murray parts.

[@Sandstimes]

Yeah I love watching the animated parts but as someone who is repulsed by most bodily fluids and is mildy emetophobic the live action scenes almost completely ruined the movie for me. When I watched it a few years ago in my science class I had to look away every time a live action scene came on. I will never understand gross out humor.

[@randtastik]

@@goldylover1000 Not all heroes wear capes.

[@Poever]

Now the list can be updated with Playmobil AND Arctic Dogs, both from 2019

[@sagrawolf]

I remember hearing mars needs moms was so bad Disney disowned the movie

[@Beau.Official]

I vaguely remember hearing that it was owned by Disney at one point.

[@mainstreamerchannel9919]

Even The Wild is now disowned, as it was removed from it's canon list.

[@lizg235]

@@mainstreamerchannel9919 why? it's not a bad movie.

[@Anthonlo97]

i didnt know disney made it lmao

[@doyleharken3477]

If they didn't, they should. The bad guy is coded as a tiger mom, complete with an atrocious fake Asian accent.

[@Darkcyndermaya]

Couple of these movies were actually good movies it's sad they bombed in the box office. Titan A.E. , Cats Don't Dance, Iron Giant especially. I love them. I remember Osmosis Jones I think it would have been great if it only was animated and left out the live action stuff. Strange Magic..get that away from me and Mars Needs Mom is a sin.

[@mileidyclass]

Also get Mars Needs Moms away from me.

[@Darkcyndermaya]

@@mileidyclass Yes.

[@michaelwolfe9496]

DuskCynderMaya Try checking out the Osmosis Jones series titled "Ozzy and Drix" I think it lasted 2 seasons. I remember it being decent, but it's been so long since I saw it.

[@collinmclaren6608]

@@michaelwolfe9496 I have some vague memories of the TV series. Pretty sure instead of Bill Murray, it was set in the body of a little girl.

[@michaelwolfe9496]

@Collin McLaren Yes, I remember it showed in the intro Ozzy and Drix were sucked out of Bill Murray by a mosquito which then injected them into a child. I think it was a boy though, or maybe I'm just remembering wrong.

[@MoonLyteP]

Strange Magic is now on Disney+. Just throwing that out there. Edit: so is Mars Needs Moms

[@marcimorgan403]

Uh not yet for mars needs moms

[@mariajimenafigueroa8311]

God, those two movies were awful.

[@psychonaut1502]

Not anymore.

[@specticulrtainment1809]

And titan a.e.

[@WillieManga]

They must've been like "Welp, we're getting our money for all this other shit. Might as well try to get someone to watch this..."

[@BaymansFury]

"Remember Jared from Subway?" yis.

[@Launchpad05]

And we'd like to forget about him.

[@Account_Not_Applicable]

Pepperidge Farm remembers

[@Launchpad05]

Is he sharing a room with Bill Cosby?

[@RedVanBuskirk]

I caught that Neopets: The Darkest Faerie music. No one else did, but no one can hide Neopets: The Darkest Faerie from ME

[@kristopherdehoyos477]

You make some pretty good content, when is Pan gonna be on your show?

[@jayfolk]

Good luck with the shirt drive.

[@AlexThe1Menace]

congrats

[@AlexThe1Menace]

@Mighty Raccoon :3

[@ChrisTrenary]

Glad I wasn't the only one

[@Johnny_Shields]

Fun Fact: Spirits Within is actually the origin story for Jenova from VII and explains the apocalypse between XII and Tactics. It is a very important film in the franchise.

[@JustinCage56]

Huh, I just assumed the film was non-canon. Nice fun fact

[@mistwolf]

JustinCage Non canon in FF terms is a weird concept when, with a few exceptions like 7 and Tactics, none of them relate to the others.

[@Johnny_Shields]

@@mistwolf 7, 10, 12, Tactics, and Spirits Within are all set in the same universe. Well all of the entries are in the same universe really but those entries form their own interconnected cluster. Spirits within happens between 12 and Tactics (flashbacks) and after tactics (rest of the movie., 10 is before 7 and 7 is after tactics.

[@neothechosenone1502]

No it doesn't. That's just a fan theory

[@mariajimenafigueroa8311]

Spirits Within feels more like a bunch of cutscenes from a Final Fantasy game then a movie based on Final Fantasy.

[@KillThad]

The shit rank music from Unleashed always gets me.

[@VidyaBros1]

Yeah me too. God I hate that game.

[@Brain_With_Glasses]

@@VidyaBros1 Fuck you.

[@Odinsday]

Unleashed had the best soundtrack easily

[@MEXUS.]

@@Brain_With_Glasses Chillax.

[@chadkingoffuckmountain970]

@@Brain_With_Glasses wew lad

[@EldritchDoodler4828]

#6 Iron Giant ... *W H A T T H E F U -*

[@jayesper4390]

@NERD Incorporated So happy I did not contribute in any way whatsoever.

[@thema1998]

@@jayesper4390 Me too. I'm so glad that I didn't support Transformers: The Dark Knight while it was in theaters.

[@bogos_binted.]

how can i not like this comment more than once

[@Benjamin1986980]

Don't forget, both Wizard of Oz and Princess Bride also failed in their original box office returns. Distribution and marketing are most important in theater tickets. Quality drives home video sales.

[@imaadshahrukh4829]

@@Benjamin1986980 Also some Disney movies when the man was alive.

[@melonman2090]

So, *Do you remember Jared from Subway?*

[@beatrixthegreat1138]

Lilly Malyk I have the feeling he haunts the nightmares of more than a few of his former campers

[@tygonmaster]

@@beatrixthegreat1138 He certainly gave out that footlong.

[@beatrixthegreat1138]

tygonmaster gross

[@tygonmaster]

@@beatrixthegreat1138 with extra mayo.

[@mikeholcomb9013]

Lilly Malyk I wish I didn’t

[@RayOfTruth]

Akira was so expensive to make it was near impossible to make back it's budget. It was also release right as an economic crash happened. For the next half of a decade, most anime that could get made were either kids shows or safe adaptations of popular manga, until Ghost in the Shell and Neon Genesis Evangelion showed more original anime could be popular.

[@theawesome3027]

RayOfTruth true.

[@isaacargesmith8217]

I thought the budget of akira was only $9 million according to wikipedia and made $49 million back

[@Alondro77]

Uhm, "Akira" was profitable and 5 years until the next big series is nothing when you consider these were made AFTER "Akira" showed more cerebral and dark-themed anime could be successful. 5 years is a blip in production terms. "Akira" cost 1.1 billion... YEN!! NOT DOLLARS!! ARG!! This is why you DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and stop listening to Internet urban legends! At the time, that was about $9 million in US dollars, a fairly low budget for an animated film. It made $49 million worldwide, but only $6 million of that from Japan. That's why it's considered a 'flop', but only from the perspective of the home box office.

[@RayOfTruth]

@@Alondro77 it's not that much for a western animated film from a big studio like Disney, but it was a lot for an anime studio not named Ghibli in 1998. It didn't make back it's money in Japan, and Japanese companies generally don't like risking a flop in Japan for success outside of Japan, especially in the '80s and '90s. They often don't even consider places outside of Japan when judging how successful an anime is.

[@StarSnowGhost]

That commercial stinger at the end couldn't have ended any worse...

[@amakusashooter]

I think pan intentionally put that there

[@HeilRay]

So you do remember.

[@Joshua_Quinzel_Isley]

I'm happy Cats Don't Dance made the list. The whole history is very interesting and how the movie wasn't marketed so much & was barely advertised. The whole movie's my favorite one ever for real, and how much it bombed makes me so sad despite the movie being released theatrically nationwide in over 1,250 screens. If it was heavily marketed enough it would have made loads more money that what it got back then, it isn't quite fully considered a cult classic but I think it has been for years even with the Widescreen DVD on sale now. If Cats Don't Dance gets it's Widescreen DVD sold financially well, we will officially get a complete Blu-Ray release of the film in 16:9 Widescreen-1080p HD. So yeah, It's a cult classic to me still under-appreciated but a wonderful film, plus I wanna find and check out the full video of the making of Cats Don't Dance so bad! (Update): Do yourselves a favor and go get the official Blu-Ray of Cats Don't Dance, if you can.

[@sarahpalintellsajoke]

I think its run on Disney Channel helped a lot of kids discover it.

[@6abial]

Fun Fact: my dad works at Lucas films and when strange magic was in production we all got to see a test screening. I cant remember much that was different except the evil bug king's mom was originally his "match maker". They then had everyone who saw it write in what you think the name should be (it was originally something generic like "love potion") and he came up with Strange Magic. He didn't get any money or credit for it

[@HandmadeGoose97]

Would you want credit for that movie?

[@1065chris]

I thought the movie was named after the ELO song that played in it.

[@k-leb4671]

@@HandmadeGoose97 I would like money though.

[@faillblogkeyboardcat]

WatchMojo will take this idea anyway. Yours will still be superior.

[@Launchpad05]

I await your Mojo.

[@Maretoast]

don't give them ideas

[@StarSnowGhost]

And then they'll put like Nightmare Before Christmas as the number 1 cause it's popular and they don't actually watch anything they put on their lists.

[@Theevil6ify]

Stay tuned for Top Ten Animated Box-Office Bombs! Right after Top Ten Oral Sex Scenes in Film! *You read that right*

[@HandmadeGoose97]

Channel Awesome is more likely to steal it, they stole from Pan before and they'll do it again.

[@MissBarker93]

Fun fact about Cats Don't Dance: Lauren Faust actually got her start on that movie as one of the animators for Sawyer.

[@marcimorgan403]

Cool

[@jackiegonzalez6814]

Sarah Barker the creator of my little pony: friendship is magic worked on cats don’t dance?! What part she animated?

[@MissBarker93]

@@jackiegonzalez6814 I just told you. She was one of the animators for Sawyer.

[@jackiegonzalez6814]

Sarah Barker what I meant was which sequence with her she animated?

[@jimgisriel]

nockFORCE actually cost 500 million but since it never really played in theaters i guess it can't be on this list.

[@BugsyFoga]

How ???

[@michaeltenenbaum8450]

Someone should tell Ian. Give him some good OK KO funding

[@michaeltenenbaum8450]

Wait fuck me I just realized that’s not what this comment is saying

[@eripena7895]

Oh, Jim, you're so funny! -Ken

[@backseatcoasters2074]

Well, at least nockFORCE was good.

[@hellsapoppin9326]

Who else but Pan opens their video with Hindenburg footage.

[@Hemostat]

True art

[@BradRLee]

Probably someone making a documentary about the Hindenburg Disaster.

[@chaseosborn9323]

And sadly ends it with Jared from Subway.

[@otaking3582]

Seems like something Nostalgia Critic would do back when he was still good

[@firecrakerj3312]

Nostalgia critic from 10 years ago would do that!

[@movingparts6270]

I loved Osmosis Jones! Like half these movies I loved as a kid, but never knew played in theaters.

[@92JazzQueen]

I am seeing a pattern with WB, which is they often have a harder time handling their animated movies in comparison with Disney.

[@SmrtPhonRtistCF]

I think ,overtime they learned and has at least paid off.

[@crimsondynamo615]

WB it seems is like the kid with downs who poops his pants and thinks it an accomplishment. Need I mention what they are doing now with the DCMU? Especially with how they seem to be trying to taint their animation now, with Killing Joke and that Batman and Harley trash

[@crimsondynamo615]

Neptune Neptune they only have one motto in life, “We’ve got to have *MONEY!* “

[@LanceThumping]

SPOILERS: #10 - Cats Don't Dance: OMG, I love this movie. So sad to see it on this list. #7 - Titan AE: Another movie that I really liked as a kid and want to rewatch. Another one that I feel sad to see on this list. #6 - Iron Giant: My soul is dying. Forget Hitler, this not succeeding financially is the biggest crime against humanity. #4 - Osmosis Jones: Another one that I liked as a kid in spite of the gross out stuff. Seems like this list is made of two extremes, either a movie is a cult classic or an abomination.

[@SAM-ru4vx]

*Adjusted for inflation* should of been direct to streaming service

[@wetfart9813]

@Neptune Neptune actually there is furry porn of it kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5iUoGahpLl_ja8

[@Ras2781]

Iron Giant was one of my fave kids films ever, Osmosis I'll admit wasn't groundbreaking, but I loved that one too, have to agree with NerdyPi on this, especially Iron Giant-I just watched it with my nieces a few months ago and damn ninjas snuck in my house and started cutting up onions :(

[@jozinek876]

True stuff pal. I loved Iron Giant and Titan AE looks great, such a shame to see it cast aside.

[@sourpuss5951]

@Chaofun It's called hyperbole.

[@honeyboy5167]

Let it be known Christopher Reeves Superman himself co-directed everyones hero

[@HarleyAMV]

Wait... Strange Magic and Epic are *not* the same film?!

[@RebelTaxi]

Yeah I felt they looked weirdly similar for some reason too

[@jozinek876]

I actually thought it was Epic at first lol

[@gameraider100]

The one difference is that Strange Magic is somehow MEMORABLE, while pretty much no one remembers anything about Epic.

[@StoicVeR]

Epic was highly anticipated but the whole plot was a dumpster fire. They made Mandrake a relatable and likable character, but the heroes had no redeeming qualities aside from being heroe. No, I will never let go of my salt, it's the only thing keeping me going in these dark times.

[@yourlocalasshole352]

The only thing I remember from Epic is those shitty McDonald’s happy meal toys

[@patrickbishop643]

I was about 6 when I went to see mars needs moms. We were the only people in the theater. It’s been a while since then and I still remember how cool it felt to be in a theater when nobody else was in there (of course my family was in there with me cause I was 6)

[@BrokeBot]

I didn’t even know it exist until I saw an ad about it when it first came out

[@arthas640]

I had a similar experiance with Kung Pow: Enter The Fist. My mom took me out of school for the whole day for a 15 minute minute doctors appointment, and she took me to see that movie in theaters. We were the only ones there because it was like 10am on a tuesday.

[@coolguy02536]

Matinee FTW

[@xenshia]

I had that experience with Earnest Does Christmas or whatever in like 1988 XD

[@Ignigknawt]

Same experience but with the live action Cat in the Hat. It was a prime time showing too, so there was no other excuse than the fact that the movie was bad XD.

[@nobreakfeast4201]

The Iron Giant is a cinematic masterpiece.

[@ThePolishGent]

In a time where La La Land has become a major craze in the whole renaissance-like comeback of musicals that's currently going on in Hollywood right now, Cats Don't Dance might've done a whole lot better at winning over a very broad audience had it came out sometime in between the mid to late 2010's, especially now when people like us are really yearning for traditional hand-drawn animation to be brought back into the mainstream market of the whole filming industry in the U.S. and that movie alone does indeed have some spectacular-looking animation that still holds up to this day without looking so tiredly aged whatsoever.

[@tracir.5844]

I miss traditional handdrawn animation alot. I don't really care for the modem look of most mainstream cartoons.

[@lilmogear8838]

Watchmojo: *Sees Pan-Pizza's video* We are Watchmojo and today we are here to countdown the top ten most expensive cartoon movies

[@thegamingdoggo9519]

I love your profile

[@thisp0ryg0nwillgiveyourdev65]

Trust me it's a video now.

[@SleepyAdam]

The fact Mars Needs Moms bombed so hard makes me feel kinda amazed I was one of the few who saw it in theaters.

[@carolyns4519]

I saw Doogal in theaters and had Happy Meal toys of it. I think a lot of kids in my class saw it too. I was surprised when I learned years later that it bombed (and that it was a dub of a cartoon already in English).

[@KaminoKatie]

@@carolyns4519 The Magic Roundabout(2005) is a French film actually

[@nightfighter201]

Dude called this decently researched 14 min episode a filler episode, pan this shit is way to nice to be considered filler.

[@ignoreme8841]

Sad that he puts so much pressure on himself

[@kirara2516]

7:40 That's okay, Square Learned their lesson with the Final Fantasy movie after that. Advent Children (the complete version) Was good.

[@frozarburst6350]

Thank God Cats Don't Dance and the Iron Giant recovered from this with help from some pretty good fans. The rest...Eeeh. Could be worse.

[@KaminoKatie]

Time has been very kind to those two films

[@pmtwreckhouse]

Seth Green never seems to have great luck in Hollywood. His greatest success is Robot Chicken (Which is great) but with other projects like Star Wars Detours, Austin Powers 4, the sitcom "Dads" (Which I found pretty funny) and other projects getting cancelled, it's a shame to see talent not being fully utilized.

[@Juichi]

Unfortunately he has a bad reputation. A big nerd (which is awesome), but from what I've heard he's a bit selfish.

[@sarahpalintellsajoke]

Yeah. Shame he is now doing KZbin reviews as that Chris Stuckmann character.

[@emiliomanueldepedro9650]

I would like to see Seth Green in a film from Yorgos Lanthimos, Paul Thomas Anderson, Darren Aronofsky, etc.

[@greencomet2011]

“Remember Jared from Subway?” Mysterion: “Today! You cross paths with the WRONG immortal 4th grader”

[@geardog24]

So Cartoon Network decided that showing the Iron Giant for 24 hours was such a brilliant idea, that they did it again with Teen Titans Go...multiple times.

[@Launchpad05]

They better not do this with with the 'Teen Titans Go' movie.

[@Apollo-el4zi]

At least Teen Titans is profitable.

[@knightofoctober]

I think they did it with Naruto at some point too, that's how I got into anime. Good times.

[@thisguyisnotcool]

I remember people nicknaming it Mars Needs Bombs

[@DraconisMarchVII]

This could be interpreted a couple of ways...

[@NeoAya]

Musk Nukes Mars

[@theamazingandtalentedblake8296]

Fresh Prince of Evil this is what I think of Mars needs moms 🤢🤮💩 and a piece of sugar honey ice tea

[@Phantomsangel]

The uncanny valley was subdued.....for now. *shows sonic the hedgehog movie*

[@goldylover1000]

Naku Chan well sonic is a hell of a lot better now (I can't wait to see it) its cats you should worry about.

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

I know it's an old comment, but Sonic ended up looking good on his movie

[@Phantomsangel]

@@mariajimenafigueroa233 Yeah I'm really glad it got changed thanks to popular demand. I still need to watch it lol

[@LooneyCartoonMan]

At least that is live-action.

[@JoppingBen10Fan]

@@mariajimenafigueroa233 true, so good it's getting a second and third movie + a series based on Knuckles.

[@tex56]

When Pan brought up Strange Magic, I was expecting Cellspex to come out of nowhere and start yelling.

[@ashcole7274]

Same

[@dannewnam2701]

Strange Magic was part of the Behind the Voice Actors, Maya Randolph won her acting this animated Movie made by Lucasfilm.

[@thequestion4818]

The fact that this is a filler epsiode uploaded only one day late shows how much Pan cares about the quality of his content

[@CourtneyCoulson]

Everything I love flops, Road to El Dorado, Osmosis Jones, Titan AE, Treasure Planet, and Tron:Legacy. I have watched these movies countless times.

[@renderedusless]

Remember Jared from Subway?

[@ChefJeezy]

He likes to eat "fresh"

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

Francesco Rindi and his mayo-spilling footlong?

[@omegadrive9999]

~He still looking good, eating Subway Sandwiches~

[@lukeperkins1024]

There was also the infamous 1994 film, A Troll in Central Park which grossed around $71,368. The budget is unknown, however.

[@coolguy02536]

100 billion dollars.........

[@troodon1096]

All of these movies on this list were a net loss. Troll in Central Park technically made a profit, just barely (though it was probably a net loss if you count the marketing costs), so misses being on this list.

[@maxbrandt6]

That was an abomination of a movie, I can believe Don Bluth wanted anything to do with that crap pile!

[@Joshua_Quinzel_Isley]

@@maxbrandt6 Well funny enough according to Diva of Musical Hell, she stated that later on Don Bluth would truly admit that that film was awful and that the completely terrible and underdeveloped script was a mistake in the first place. Since Bluth said in an interview, "Development of a movie is like development of a child in a womb, it takes time and it must be done right. Building the movie A Troll in Central Park taught us this lesson, but indeed the hard way".

[@TheImparter]

I was really surprised when I first heard that The Iron Giant was a commercial flop. Here in Ireland it was promoted very heavily and it's quite common to hear someone in their mid to late 20s claim it as one of their favorite nostalgic movies.

[@n_worder]

Pan is a kind of guy who will write "expensive cartoon" in all caps but not "disasters"

[@DarthJoshReturns]

"Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within- Based on the video game franchise I never played, and judging by the movie, neither did the writers." It was directed by Hironobu Sakaguchi, the creator of the franchise. Sad, isn't it?

[@eddiedingle767]

I remember quite a bit of the advertisement for Cats Don't Dance, even as a young child, I thought it looked too stupid. They didn't show any of the story, they just showed the animals screaming and dropping pianos on the girl. Now at least I know it's good

[@SuperStrikeagle]

The sonic Unleashed failed level soundtrack made me laugh so fucking hard, i played that game so much because it was the only game i had for like 6 months, i recognized the fail song instantly

[@k-leb4671]

That song is so good at sounding so bad. It's an art.

[@rinsatsuki2417]

Same. That game, along with some of these movies (looking at you iron giant) were my childhood.

[@kieranstark7213]

If Hillary Goldstein gave Sonic Unleashed HD a "Bad" rating of 4.5/10, chances are that he would give Strange Magic, Delgo, Legends of Oz: Dorothy's Return and Mars Needs Moms more than a "Good" rating of 7/10. This is exactly why it would be unsurprising if that man of IGN turned out to be vicious.

[@KaijaSchmauss]

There actually is one person I feel really bad for in the disaster that was "The Legend of Oz: Dorothy's Return", and it's Lea Michele. That poor girl can't seem to catch a break when it comes to her acting career post-Glee, and I really don't get why. Her public persona is about as polished and unrelatable as it gets, but I don't think she's a bad person or a bad actress. She just keeps getting cast in bombs.

[@JoppingBen10Fan]

this aged poorly after her scandal

[@KaijaSchmauss]

@@JoppingBen10Fan lol true. I honestly can't stand her now that I know what we all know now.

[@JoppingBen10Fan]

@@KaijaSchmauss same, I don't feel bad for her about this disaster tbh.

[@KaminoKatie]

@@JoppingBen10Fan What's the scandel?

[@JoppingBen10Fan]

@@KaminoKatie her scandal was a scandal about her being accused of being racist on the set of Glee

[@BmikroB]

tfw when most of those are essentially my best childhood memories, the movies I used to watch so often, and I loved them so much. Quest for Camelot, FF The Spirits Within, Iron Giant, Titan AE, Pebble and the Penguin, Treasure Island, Atlantis, El Dorado, Thumbelina, The Ugly Duckling (1997) and more. Ah, it's heartbreaking to see those had flopped so hard... :((

[@Drixenol86]

Osmosis Jones does have an online fanbase.

[@Drixenol86]

Nyte Krollers yikes?

[@Klonoahedgehog]

They moved on to Cells at work.

[@Drixenol86]

Crystal Keyblade Well, Cells at Work is more scientifically accurate.

[@chuggaa100]

@@Drixenol86 Because _that_ matters lol

[@kreepykittiez]

people wanna fuck the virus guy, by the way.

[@eatatjoes6751]

I think I remember that Iron Giant marathon--or at least parts of it. Yeah, not a good idea. I'd like to see it once, maybe twice, but not the 24 hr overload that they did no matter how good the movie is. Not to mention Mars Needs Moms was absolutely terrific. Like, horrible enough to make me want to watch Monster House.

[@HugeniaCooney]

Maridia Monroe you have terrible taste in movies, monster house is not only original and easy to follow, it is entertaining with decent characters and SOME amazing visuals...apart from the people which were...horrendous

[@HugeniaCooney]

My eyes literally welled up with tears when I saw iron giant, that is one of my favourite animated movies...and one of the greatest movies ever!!! Just look at the rotten tomatoes score

[@galacticspecter4364]

Why do the aliens in Mars Needs Moms have large shapely hips and thighs?

[@tigertim620]

Galactic Specter Haven't you heard? Thicc is in;)

[@Ego-Fiend]

I don't know That's the only reason why i watch the movie

[@arthas640]

I've always had a thing for "Hartman Hips" so that movie gave me the weirdest boner... I'm not into those aliens but just those thicc thighs and swingin hips short circuit the "you should bone that" center of my brain, bypassing the areas responsible for logic, reasoning, morality, and common sense.

[@jozinek876]

'Cause they're thicc ;)

[@coolguy02536]

They’re ugly abominations. Can’t give a pile of cow shit fat legs and call it attractive.

[@MiTexcel]

Titan A.E. and Treasure Planet are my favourite animated movies of all time,,,, So uh I guess I'm into failed early 2000s animated sci-fi movies

[@jspinac1]

Well Duh! JCS AVATAR EPIC Franchise was a big favorite for us too, if only death of females, foul language & war violence were not in them, so sad and so expensive to make, ya dig?

[@BugsyFoga]

In fact i would say Treasure planet as well as Atlantis are my all time favorite disney films 😄👌

[@margotnohe973]

Dude, thank you soooooo much for talking about cartoon theatre. I remember as a kid seeing one of the bumpers and I've been looking all over for that bumper to see if it was just my imagination or a real thing I saw as a kid. You have brought me some peace FINALLY!

[@ragemonster4277]

I loved Titian AE and Iron Giant

[@EdithPuthy95]

Same it's crazy how much money the lost but they were such big parts of my life growing up

[@imaadshahrukh4829]

Same here.

[@T3KNUG3T5]

Never saw Titan AE but even from that clip in the video and the fact Don Bluth worked on it makes me wanna watch it

[@rommix0]

I was surprised not seeing Twice Upon a Time in here. It bombed hard when it first released theatrically.

[@manidavis4126]

Secret of HIMH was successful

[@alecperdeau650]

Secret of Nimph bombed?

[@masterseal0418]

Number 6 was WB animation's last laugh with Number 4 and Looney Tunes Back in Action till 2014 when The LEGO Movie released(that aged poorly when it's sequel released in 2019 bombed). Also, mind I review Final Fantasy The Spirits Within sometime, Pan? I'll watch both the film and the entirety of Advent Children to compare the two's quality. P.S. Love that Red Letter Media joke in Number 3!

[@knoxrobbins]

I have the honor(?) of just happening to see Delgo in its one week in theaters. The Canadian theaters here had a few trailers attached to some of the big animated movies that year so by the time it came out I was well aware of what it was and was curious enough to go see it. My twelve dollars is in that half-million some total, ah well. There's other things that contributed to these bombs: the live-action being filmed very late into Osmosis Jones and the Farley Brothers stealing credit, Strange Magic's faint marketing supposedly sabotaged by John Lasseter, Monkeybone being almost completely recut behind Henry Selick's back by the producers, and someone thinking it was a bright idea to fund $200 million into Mars Needs Moms.

[@jaydensapp2]

Then you are a legend

[@AdahnFlorence]

4:35 Aw man, I had a great moment at my previous job where I was talking with my coworker who was playing music on his phone, and I joked saying something like "hey do you know that song that was in the trailer for Titan A.E.?" And I was mumbling the lyrics from this clip like "duh duh duh dayyyy, Can you take me higher?" without knowing what the lyrics were. Then he just said to me "I know what you're talking about," and he immediately went on his phone and looked it up and I just started laughing my ass off.

[@xXChaD]

The best part about Cats Don't Dance was Sawyer. A cat is fine too.

[@lasarousi]

Thai movie was just revived by furries, if you know what's good avoid anything to do with em.

[@slashbash1347]

Yiff in Hell.

[@BugsyFoga]

@@JillLulamoon me too

[@madadardeb5580]

@@slashbash1347 we don't bite, I promise

[@seekerseraphimtherecluse4314]

That reference....

[@DainnGreywall]

I'm not ashamed to say that I enjoyed and STILL enjoy Titan A.E despite it's flaws

[@mr.constructivecriticism8495]

Dear RebelTaxi, I'd like to say a HUGE well done. This video put me onto your fantastic work. You have a great sense of humor and time your jokes perfectly. The way you edit your videos is absolutely incredible. I get a wave of nostalgia from the various old school videogame sounds you utilize. From the custom "we'll be right back" commercial break you do, to the Super Smash Bros. Melee menu select sound during the number transitions. When I heard that Tony Hawk Pro Skater menu music, I couldn't help but listen to the song as I type this. You're a very skilled editor and that's apparent by the seamless transitions from one part to the next. The fonts you use and the way you make them pop from the background is so fantastic to see. It's also great to see that you actually credit your sources. Many "Top 10" channels fall under my description of "quick cash" methods. They tend to make videos quickly using a bland cut and paste formula, but this was incredible! Even though you used the commonplace "numbers as a transition," you got straight to the point instead of having a dumb, flashy, and unnecessary 3D intro that lasts far too long. You also have an amazing personality. You bring life to your videos and show that you truly care about making them, something you don't see in many "top 10" channels. Most channels like those have a nasally or monotonous voice that seems devoid of human emotion. They usually take a topic and stretch it an unreasonable amount for the sake of 10 videos, however I didnt look at the time It's such a breath of fresh air to see so much passion go into your scripts. My Ratings Entertainment: 10 Editing: 10 Length: 10 Topic: 10 I don't give out Perfect 10's often, but this was too good to not do so. Great job, and keep up the good work. Sincerely, Mr. Constructive Criticism

[@flamingcheetopuff8434]

This

[@nomoremandead3910]

Cringe, no one cares

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

*Fun Fact:* The most expensive animated movie is Disney's "Tangled" which it costs $260M after Toy Story 3, Finding Dory, Monsters University, and Cars 2. The 5 of the movies were $200M cost a budget.

[@KillThad]

Dreamwork's Tangled? Don't you mean Disney?

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@@KillThad Dangit! I forgot to replace that part.

[@dannewnam2701]

Good Point! ;)

[@Boog_The_Bear]

There is a sale on wet wipes at my local store.

[@AmazingMollusk]

By 20 of them

[@AndreSthegeekydude]

WB will never drop the habit of throwing it's animation staff under the bus...

[@2doot]

Haven't watched your videos in forever, but can I just say I LOVE the nostalgic AdultSwim-esque and late night tv visuals your editing gives off? It's so calm, like a late night drive, or staying up till 3 on a hot summer night with like 5 fans blowing. Idk, there's just something nice and peaceful about it which is why I like your videos so much.

[@BugsyFoga]

Who else here wanted films like Cats don't dance , Iron giant , titan ae ,and Osmosis Jones to do well at the box office It's Juice , Jam, and Pizza time !!!

[@danstiver9135]

Maybe not Osmosis Jones. It bombing helped kill 2D animated movies off, but the live action sections in that movie were insufferable.

[@goldylover1000]

Nathaniel Foga hell yeah I wanted those to win those movies are top of the line animated films my personal picks from the late 90s-early 2000s (including Atlantis the emperors new groove the road to el dorado and the prince of Egypt) it’s a shame those bombed cause those movies were probably the best 2d animated flicks for the time imo also osmosis Jones wouldn’t have bombed if warner bros didn’t chop and edit the crap outta that movie to get a PG rating

[@BugsyFoga]

@@goldylover1000 I agree

[@king_big_pp]

Wow. How could you say something so brave?

[@girlscanbedrummers5449]

Nathaniel Foga Never was a fan of Murray to begin with, at least in ghost busters he was a bit more toleratable.

[@kirara2516]

4:00 sounds like they'd be good friend with Amy from Amy's Baking Company. 😂

[@chayden153]

Oh God yup!

[@sambeckettcat]

there are too many good cartoons that bombed at the box office. Cats Don't Dance, Titan AE, Iron Giant, The Black Cauldron, Rode to El Dorado, James and the Giant Peach. I liked all those movies. I even enjoyed Quest for Camelot as a kid.

[@chayden153]

Road to El Dorado is so underrated! It's one of my favorite movies.

[@ravenfuckantifa2000]

I liked James and the Giant Peach and The Iron Giant, the latter being likely my favorite animated movie of all time. But...I havent seen the former in around a decade, so Im not sure what I think of it now.

[@Waynimations]

Although you say it’s rushed I still you think you did a great job with this.

[@subpump2823]

Eh grossly wrong with alot of these numbers so I wouldnt

[@isaacargesmith8217]

@@subpump2823 How so

[@sneezy344]

The iron giant is still occasionally shown on Disney channel and cartoon network. Though very rarely shown, it just shows how good the movie was

[@nomiddlenamedavis]

This was a better video idea I’m not gonna lie. What’s more spooky then animated box office bombs

[@SunsetSullivan]

Is Monkeybone a good movie? Because holy crap, that looked absolutely excellent visually speaking.

[@kostajovanovic3711]

No

[@joshclark389]

To give Monkeybone some little respect. it's a good example of how bad Producer meddling,and putting too much on the burners burdens a potential good movie into a endless possibilities of failing without having a chance to stand on its own. Considering that Henry Selick was trying to adapt it's source material that didn't have an ending abruptly, "Darktown" had a style visual deco style. But Chris Columbus and Fox executives thought since.The main character was a puppeteer and Being John Malkovich just happened to come out during production of the film.That it was scratched and then back to square one. I recommend listening to the movie with the commentary because hearing from his perspective was incredible the amount of time,money, attention to detail and a cavalcade of experimental ideas and running with them commentary is just crazy. You feel bad what was going to be his Coraline. I love this movie and appreciate it what it was truly trying to be while having to make of a new situation Chris Columbus being difficult to work with in production period and really like the elements of this movie but it's a guilty pleasure.

[@avosmash2121]

Yes AND no. The humor and acting, hit or miss. No inbetween. The story concept is dumb but has very silly and cool potential. It would probaby serve better in a better studio, or as an arthouse film with someone like a less unhinged and unlucky Ralph Bakshi. They don't get anywhere interesting with the plot but the WAYS they go to get there are some of the most unique and cool places and ideas you ever seen and will make you wish it was a dirty comedy Netflicks series instead. Quite worth one watch at least, with friends, beer, ganja, and popcorn.

[@Blakbox92]

Terrible or no, the description and clips make me want to check it out.

[@2RG_]

@@Blakbox92 it's not a good movie but it's entertaining. I'd say it's worth a watch for the effects alone.