10 "Church Things" That Are Actually NOT In The Bible

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What does it say that our churches are so full of things that can't be found in the Bible? Do we actually think God's Word is insufficient? So we've added a bunch of stuff to help him out?

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@1Word2218
@1Word2218 Ай бұрын
For clarity, the comments about worship service are not to say, or imply, that we should not meet as fellow saints regularly. Multiple passages in the Bible show us to do so. It is vital to do so. But it is not instructed as a “worship service”. Rather it is described in the Bible as a time to encourage, edify and strengthen one another. Will describe in more detail in a future video. Sorry for any confusion about this.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Ай бұрын
Great points. Much of this confusion comes from not letting go of the Old Covenant and embracing the New Covenant instead. New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the first three questions below? Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the KZbin videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.....
@charlottehayward5943
@charlottehayward5943 Ай бұрын
Also it isn't limited to one hour. Let the Holy Spirit move for however long it takes sould to believe.
@sangpierremendy2804
@sangpierremendy2804 Ай бұрын
How about Hebrews 10.25, forsake not the assembling of the saints.
@richardvoogd3012
@richardvoogd3012 Ай бұрын
​@@sangpierremendy2804sometimes in the Bibles the saints gathered together........for a meal.
@wilsonsmanz
@wilsonsmanz 29 күн бұрын
@@richardvoogd3012 Sure but it is clear by the verse that it's not talking about food because the verse says exhorting one another or encouraging and building up the faith of each other. That is done through worship
@Brian-rs4ug
@Brian-rs4ug 27 күн бұрын
I have been a Christian for thirty years. The last three years I have been in a Home Church of about twenty regular attendees. I have found this to be a huge opportunity to grow spiritually. Far beyond any transformation that has taken place in a large church setting. To often we go to church, but don’t spend enough time with the body of Christ to get to know them well and become a “family” unit. A Home Church is a great way to live out what is taught in the New Testament.
@tanakamlambo1296
@tanakamlambo1296 26 күн бұрын
Insightful. Thank you for this contribution.
@LequipeTechnique
@LequipeTechnique 25 күн бұрын
So true... Church is a family first. The more you gather people and the more you will also see scorpions and snakes coming, and then the fire become extinct...
@stevenburton7922
@stevenburton7922 23 күн бұрын
Well done
@Crowbrother7
@Crowbrother7 23 күн бұрын
Three years ago, my wife and I and several other couples left organized religion to start a home church. We echo your sentiments! As I research it, there is a growing wave of like congregations.
@Brian-rs4ug
@Brian-rs4ug 23 күн бұрын
@@LequipeTechnique In a Home Church the snakes and scorpions will be exposed relatively quickly. Those that are genuine believers and desiring to develop and grow will make themselves known as well.
@weveseenthelight5997
@weveseenthelight5997 Ай бұрын
I think It really boils down to this... Do the actions of your church glorify God or glorify man?
@ronniebaker4549
@ronniebaker4549 29 күн бұрын
If you are a good person you go to Heaven. If you are a bad person you go to Hades which means dead or a grave. The Catholic Church made up the pit of eternal fire in 600 ad to scare people into going to Church and to tithe.
@timfultz5288
@timfultz5288 27 күн бұрын
Exactly.......
@iAdden
@iAdden 26 күн бұрын
It boils down to you’re not doing what’s in the Bible. Like the point of the video. 6:04
@calvinbrown5597
@calvinbrown5597 26 күн бұрын
​@@iAddenThere is a big difference between doing something that isn't told to be done, and doind something that you're told not to do. One is a sin outright, and the other may be allowed. It's a case by case basis
@jonathanmccoy2247
@jonathanmccoy2247 26 күн бұрын
@@iAdden so do you wipe your butt with toilet paper ? That’s not in the Bible
@jimsmith4468
@jimsmith4468 Ай бұрын
The purpose of the church is to worship God and spread the gospel, PERIOD 🙏
@paulkeefe8821
@paulkeefe8821 Ай бұрын
It's the body of Christ working together and loving each other, the Christians that is
@penniprater5571
@penniprater5571 Ай бұрын
And help new Christians grow in their faith
@michaeljohnson4947
@michaeljohnson4947 Ай бұрын
The Church is also the Bride of Christ.
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 Ай бұрын
Please refer me to the Book, Chapter and Verses that state what a "church" is supposed to do... The Messiah told us to make disciples NOT "churches"... The Messiah told New Believers to GO TO THE SYNAGOGUES to learn Moses and then OBEY GOD's Commandments... Matthew 23:1 and 2 - 1Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples: 2 “The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. But "Churches" would rather listen to Constantine and Marcion or some other illegitimate "church father's" nonsense... WHICH GOD is being worshiped at "churches"? QUESTION MARK
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 Ай бұрын
@@michaeljohnson4947 The origin of the word Church is the word Circe, sometimes spelled Kirke... Circe was a lesser goddess who lured men to their deaths by deceiving them... "The church" participates in more idolatry (which the Bible refers to as harlotry) than Israel ever did... Do you honestly believe that Christ is going to marry a harlot? Delusion comes from the noisy throngs on the high hills... "The Church" had better be about the business of cleaning her robes... STOP with the idolatry... STOP using abominated heathen ways to worship a Holy GOD... Sure... Jesus knows your heart when you use Ishtar worship to commemorate His Resurrection... Sure, Jesus is perfectly fine with you claiming that He was born on the birth date of Sol Invictus and then proceed to participate in all manner of sun god and fertility goddess worship rites... He knows your heart... (Jeremiah 17:9)
@danschubring7957
@danschubring7957 Ай бұрын
The modern church is nothing like the first gatherings.
@PaulZeron
@PaulZeron Ай бұрын
And the churches that Paul addressed in his epistles were nothing like the First Church of Jerusalem.
@ricklivingston3493
@ricklivingston3493 Ай бұрын
We don't have to copy the gatherings of the early church. After all, we would have to "tune in and drop out," sharing our hippie granola with one another under one roof. Yes, Jesus only did what the Father told Him. We can do the same by listening to our Lord's leading (Jn 10:27). It can be different from something in the book of Acts as long as it does not contradict scripture as the WOKE churches like the UMC, UCC, and the Episcopalians are doing. Let's not make lots of unnecessary rules and restrictions for ourselves (Col 2:20-21).
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
This is why I left the church circus
@pingupenguin2474
@pingupenguin2474 Ай бұрын
​@@VictorianMaid99We are told in the bible to not neglect meeting together with other christians. Find some whose meeting together is not " a circus" ( and keep looking till you find them) but keep meeting with other christians.
@howardg5934
@howardg5934 23 күн бұрын
Yep! No PA systems.
@user-xo6dv7cw1b
@user-xo6dv7cw1b 16 күн бұрын
A large part of the problem is many people do not read or study the Bible and what it says. They go to church and listen to the minister/pastor and take it at face value. Open your eyes and READ God's word for yourself one word at a time and learn what the Bible actually says!!! You'll be much better off for doing so!!
@maxxmabemwe4859
@maxxmabemwe4859 8 күн бұрын
Yes indeed.
@davidmillward3108
@davidmillward3108 3 күн бұрын
It is important that we pay attention to the version of the Bible we read. Many " modern" translations are in error. You need to go back to the Hebrew.
@pingupenguin2474
@pingupenguin2474 Ай бұрын
As I grew as a christian I realised that no church grouping was perfect, but we are urged in the bible to " not neglect the assembling of ourselves together." Nobody is perfect and if you find one that is, then as soon as you join it, it won't be ! So make sure you meet with other christians, for your encouragement and theirs - and honestly I can't see why God would have any objection to communal worship, either in a homegroup or in a building built so larger groups could meet to praise God and hear His word read and preached.
@mikhailhunter5277
@mikhailhunter5277 27 күн бұрын
Leviticus 23:3 says the Sabbath is a holy convocation onto the Lord. I agree with most of what he said but he must have forgotten that verse.
@lynoluoch1891
@lynoluoch1891 26 күн бұрын
@@mikhailhunter5277 These were direct appointments given to the Israelites, not Christians, for Christians didn't exist then, since Christ wasn't born yet. It is very important to note the context of the Bible verses, so, what did Jesus say about the Sabbath? Read Mark 2:23-27
@mikhailhunter5277
@mikhailhunter5277 26 күн бұрын
@@lynoluoch1891 Mark 2:27 "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. 28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath." Jesus says Sabbath was made for MAN, as in all of mankind. Which means everyone Jew, Christian, and even the non believer should keep the Sabbath. (Exodus 20:8) (Genesis 2:2-3) Luke 4:16 "...And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day..." This is referring to Jesus, who went to the synagogue (church) every Sabbath. A custom that points back to Leviticus 23:3 since Jesus was a Jew. 2 Timothy 1:11 Paul is appointed teacher of the Gentiles. Paul taught on the Sabbath day, Gentiles would sometimes attend synagogues to hear the Gospel message. Acts 13:42 "So when the Jews went out to the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them next Sabbath. And the subsequent verses go on to say the Gentiles congregated on the next Sabbath to hear Paul preach. Paul, a Jew, who's custom is to attend the synagogue on the Sabbath, is teaching non Jews about the Gospel Here's a question is the God of Israel different from the God of the Christian? The reality is the Israelites were used as an example for the world to demonstrate how God works with man. They were made God's people The ten commandments were also delivered to non Israelites there was a "mixed multitude" among the children of Israel that were required to keep it and they would be part takers of the covenant. There we are seeing an example of a non Jew being grafted into being a child of Israel. And we're also seeing someone who is born a Jew can be disowned Romans 2:14, 25-28 In order for us to be God's people us Gentiles must be circumcised of the heart. We must spiritually become children of Israel by obeying all his commandments out of love for him.
@kellibrown8799
@kellibrown8799 25 күн бұрын
Most of us at some time have said this same thing. I can't see why God wouldn't like that. He is very descriptive in what is worship to Him.
@rconger24
@rconger24 22 күн бұрын
If you were told about the most perfect group, would you believe it?
@recoveringnewyorker2243
@recoveringnewyorker2243 Ай бұрын
I’m a messianic Jew. We try to do what Yeshua (Jesus) has instructed us to do through Father God in heaven. Unfortunately, when our rabbi passed away the people who “took over” our messianic synagogue were doing some very “un messianic Jewish“ things. Some of these include, Sunday service, non-kosher foods, allowing two food trucks (one of which sells pork products) do business on our property during Shabbat etc. When many of us went to this “new leadership” with a list of grievances, we were literally thrown out of the synagogue. By the way, the “new leadership“ said “We are not a synagogue!“ Many of us now meet for Saturday Shabbat service in private homes.
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 Ай бұрын
Praise YHVH that you are STILL obedient to His Word! The Apostle Paul tells us sometimes divisions have their purpose... 1 Corinthians 11:17 through 19 - 17And in declaring this I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18For in the first place, I hear that when you come together as an assembly, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. 19For there have to be factions even among you, so that the approved ones might be revealed among you. Have courage, be strong and continue in Messiah Yeshua... Blessings and Shalom!
@waynehobbs5175
@waynehobbs5175 Ай бұрын
The scripture says call nobody Rabbi. Matthew 23 vs 8>
@tjhunter3530
@tjhunter3530 Ай бұрын
I feel for you. I'm glad to hear that you are keeping the faith.
@trentitybrehm5105
@trentitybrehm5105 Ай бұрын
Do yall believe that God is tri-une and that Jesus is God in human flesh?
@tjhunter3530
@tjhunter3530 Ай бұрын
@@trentitybrehm5105 yes
@ionsparrow6018
@ionsparrow6018 Ай бұрын
Colossians 3:16: "Teach and admonish one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God" Ephesians 5:19: "Address one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart"
@JWboing
@JWboing Ай бұрын
[1Co 14:26 ESV] 26 What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.
@kentillotson2814
@kentillotson2814 Ай бұрын
Without musical instruments.
@JWboing
@JWboing Ай бұрын
​@@kentillotson2814Why is that?
@STak-ju7gx
@STak-ju7gx 27 күн бұрын
​@kentillotson2814 it's 2024 and are we still bent on being divisive and argumentative to the point of something as silly as instrument or no instrument?
@MillyRose539
@MillyRose539 25 күн бұрын
@@STak-ju7gx You are correct - SMH!
@mestrong
@mestrong Ай бұрын
I grew up in church services under a tent, sitting on the ground with no air conditioning but I’m sure God doesn’t mind us having a building, air conditioning and padded seats. I do believe that David also danced before the lord but a lot of people doesn’t agree with dancing in the church.
@wilsonsmanz
@wilsonsmanz 29 күн бұрын
The problem is that we don't have much understanding of what it means that David danced. Because there are dances that are totally inappropriate in God's house. So the question is, what kind of dance. Additionally, I don't think when that was said in the bible it was in the context of concregational worship.
@jaellouis4749
@jaellouis4749 28 күн бұрын
Scripture says he danced on the road in a procession to bring the ark into Jerusalem and to a tent he had created for it. Doesn't mention dancing in the Temple, because there was no temple. We have no ark. Worship can be dancing, music, holding up hands, and the most important, obedience (holiness)...none of which were done in the synagogues of Jesus' time, those places were used for studying/researching/examining/teaching scripture of the old testament. In their home meetings it does say that they sang hymns.
@philipbrazis8732
@philipbrazis8732 28 күн бұрын
Ruth here, some churches want proff of how much you make and ya gotta pay well over 10% of your gross to the church.
@carolmaplesden916
@carolmaplesden916 26 күн бұрын
Willfull ignorance
@maxxmabemwe4859
@maxxmabemwe4859 8 күн бұрын
You do believe, but does the Bible say that he danced before God. Your are warned not to add or take away one dot to or from the Bible.
@jamesbrandau3712
@jamesbrandau3712 Ай бұрын
Well said! The ten church things mentioned are just the tip of an iceberg.
@bw2442
@bw2442 Ай бұрын
This subject is near and dear to my heart because I’ve tried almost every church denomination out there and marveled at the problems I found. Finally after studying for years with much prayer I found out what the new test model of gathering is, family homes, where it’s personal, quiet, lots of sharing and relationship, this is Gods model in the Bible because it centers on relationship, equality, growth and relationship with God. Healing happens here.
@1Word2218
@1Word2218 Ай бұрын
I agree with you. I moved to a home assembly a few years ago. Have seen so much more growth in people than the institutional approach.
@bw2442
@bw2442 Ай бұрын
@@1Word2218 imo churches make everything into a spectator /entertainment format. And move the focus onto things that have no revelance to knowing my God personally, knowing myself and knowing others. The focus goes onto schedules, programs, keeping the plates spinning, appearances, money, buildings, building fund, heirachies, robes, candles, pews, parking spaces, folding chairs, making programs, printing bulletins, dressing up, maintenance, 501c3 governments, blah blah blah. Since I have started spending much time with God I’m amazed at the personal relationalship I’m enjoying with God and how much he enjoys spending time with his people, when I get preoccupied with too many things he gently draws me back to him and reminds me how much he enjoys our time together. It blesses God and blesses me, as any good ,intimate relationship with someone would, to me this is the heart and essence of knowing God or Christianity if you will, the early church fathers knew this , but we’ve turned it into an obstacle course or social club.
@lorih673
@lorih673 Ай бұрын
You should try Orthodoxy. It is the original church. Much of what goes on in the western church (especially protestant) is not found in orthodoxy.
@johnclarksr3423
@johnclarksr3423 Ай бұрын
God never intended for there to be congregations of hundreds, or thousands. In homes, up close and personal, and small, is the way the NT started, and when believers sought to make the gospel appealing to the world, they fell into sin.
@breakfastforyousoul
@breakfastforyousoul Ай бұрын
Great job going through some of these things. However, just because a church does some of these things does not make it wrong. Ecclesiaste speaks of sing, praise, and hymns worship songs. Of course, we're going to do that when we come together as a church. Though we should not say, you can not have church without a church. Building. a church building and of itself is not inherently wrong, As long as we don't teach that that is the only way to God. Or you need that thing, but it can be helpful to give up a meeting place. When you have multiple people, they may not be able to fit into a small home. Used for the right reasons Those things do not make you less of a Christian. We just gotta keep them in their proper place.
@k1ghz960
@k1ghz960 Ай бұрын
This is the first bible talk I ever heard that made sense.
@ricklivingston3493
@ricklivingston3493 Ай бұрын
You are really sheltered. Jesus was concerned about the weightier matters of the law.
@bw2442
@bw2442 Ай бұрын
Yes, it’s a very good talk, blesses me when the believers assemble with out all the distractions people like to invent, and just enjoy Gods spirit and refreshing without Pharisees to quench the spirit.
@zanapwilliams9388
@zanapwilliams9388 28 күн бұрын
Amen and thank you.
@sfitzgerald6517
@sfitzgerald6517 Ай бұрын
Todays churches are also 501c3 corporation status organizations
@billholt5573
@billholt5573 Ай бұрын
Not exactly correct. The IRS recognizes churches as nonprofits but to be a 501(c)(3) a church must go through a legal process with the IRS. It is not required and many, perhaps most, do not.
@ckh57
@ckh57 Ай бұрын
@@billholt5573 Not all are but way to many have indeed status signed this agreement and have sold out the people for a few dollars of already tax exempt status. Many young pastors think this must be done to establish a church body. They really have no idea what they have done by signing this agreement, and their freedom of speech they have signed away. It is getting harder to find one that has not signed away their freedoms from government interventions. They must think a few dollars of savings when buying things for their church with a 501-3C LLC tax number, is a fair trade off for putting their church and the members under the rules 501-3C LLC of the government now in place and any rules they may put in place in the future is fair trade off signing away their freedoms for this act of ignorance.
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
Sure. Church is a business presenting a product.
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
​@@billholt5573money money money
@billholt5573
@billholt5573 Ай бұрын
In the technical sense, yes. But many churches are far more of a business than was intended by the Lord. Helping a man who preaches feed and cloth his family is different from building an empire of wealth, as many have done. The Biblical pattern does not allow for 1 man to build a business. The preacher is to be a servant of those who gather to hear him and under the oversight of local elders/bishops. Worship services should not be centered upon the preacher but upon the Lord. But we tend to mess up good things, make them too complicated and corrupt. There is always a call back to the Lord’s simple pattern.
@11valdano
@11valdano Ай бұрын
There's a lot more than 10 things that "the Church" uses, but are not in the Bible.
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
People cannot afford to support the church anymore. These churches that expect money to keep flowing in to pay for all this entertainment the church puts on is ending.
@JigsawPuzzleConnection
@JigsawPuzzleConnection 27 күн бұрын
And they are OK as long as the bible does not say don't do those things.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 24 күн бұрын
@@JigsawPuzzleConnectionoh like chanting, graven images, and praying to anyone other than Yah Or Jesus? I’m obviously joking cause those are all things some denominations do that are said not to do in the Bible I’m pretty sure.
@JigsawPuzzleConnection
@JigsawPuzzleConnection 24 күн бұрын
Right so onl use the KJV bible here.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 23 күн бұрын
quote---There's a lot more than 10 things that "the Church" uses, but are not in the Bible... unquote Then how can you prove they are true???? And Not man made????
@paulwiederhold7629
@paulwiederhold7629 Ай бұрын
OK, I can agree with a lot of things here. But let's not let the pendulum swing so far to the other side also. The Scriptures don't say anything about scanning a QR code or tithing through a phone app, but we are instructed to give. It is the Spirit of The Word; not the dead letter of technical writing.
@michaelmerck7576
@michaelmerck7576 Ай бұрын
No tithing of money ever was commanded no matter how it was paid
@paulwiederhold7629
@paulwiederhold7629 Ай бұрын
@@michaelmerck7576 so today's believers are to only give 'offerings' if they feel lead to do?
@brass1951
@brass1951 Ай бұрын
@@paulwiederhold7629 yes.
@brucecawlfield4909
@brucecawlfield4909 Ай бұрын
@@paulwiederhold7629 Believers are to obey the Holy Ghost not just old covenant laws
@ricklivingston3493
@ricklivingston3493 Ай бұрын
Ah, a comment that actually gets it. BTW, tithing is not a biblical practice under the New Covenant which I believe we are under.
@alextaylor6074
@alextaylor6074 Ай бұрын
Outstanding video! Thank you for the post and staying faithful to GOD's Word!
@angelaoutdoors505
@angelaoutdoors505 27 күн бұрын
I’ve been in many churches over the past 40 yrs because of the different beliefs in doctrine, and now with the internet there is a lot more debate about every topic you can imagine. Everyone is claiming they are right you are wrong. The most disturbing thing about all this is the lack of love amongst believers that troubles me.
@loudantproductions5407
@loudantproductions5407 Ай бұрын
Well said! More than 5 years ago I was warned by God in a dream that if I continued to go in the direction I was going, (large institutional church), there would be consequences and I would not have an excuse before Him! I was also shown many years before, the church system I was in was heading in the same direction as Babylon. The more I read the Bible the more I agree with everything you said and can see much more! Thank you for sharing.
@Blacklist324
@Blacklist324 18 күн бұрын
The number one thing churches do that's not in the Bible is the teaching that the 4th commandment is abolished.
@denisedietz4310
@denisedietz4310 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. We have made Christianity difficult for non-believers as we have too many 'differences' mostly all man made. I have even had someone ask me if so many claim to be Christians, why are there so many different types of Christians? Good point. One in the Spirit, One in the Lord. You have good thinking points in your video. Bless you!
@cheriphaconnell8437
@cheriphaconnell8437 27 күн бұрын
Cars, buses, ties, dresses and hats were not in the Bible. KZbin was also not in the Bible, but here we are.
@johndias3993
@johndias3993 18 күн бұрын
don't think any of the things you mention is going against scripture are they...
@qlder0284
@qlder0284 Күн бұрын
@@johndias3993 Neither is having a different roles in the church, church hierarchy, Christmas and Easter, confirmation, clergy uniforms, worship services, and having church buildings. And as for denominations, considering what this man has said in this video, I doubt he goes to a church that is part of (or at least claims to be part of) the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
@BirdYoumans
@BirdYoumans 9 күн бұрын
When asked the most important commandments in the old Testament, and there were MANY more than ten, He said, and I paraphrase, "love God and love your fellow man." Simple. If we do those two things, it will take care of all the other stuff we would do as a Christian. God looks on the condition of our hearts, not the outward show we put on. He did not tell us to build walls or pass more tax cuts for the wealthy or keep a good war going so we can make the warmongers rich, no, we are to feed the hungry, clothe the needy, heal the sick, look after the elderly, stuff like that. And we are not to pass spiritual judgement on others as we so readily do in our "denominational zeal". Don't sell "religiosity". Let's just start being kind to each other and put our prejudice and bigotry aside. We'd be much happier if we just did that. A smile goes a long way for someone who's feeling down.
@catincj5162
@catincj5162 Ай бұрын
As a former Seventh Day Adventist, (25 years in ministry), I agree with this message.
@ricklivingston3493
@ricklivingston3493 Ай бұрын
As a "former Jew," I respectfully disagree with this message.
@JCtheRemedy
@JCtheRemedy Ай бұрын
Above all controversies The Lord Jesus Christ is my example in everything that pertains to my life and godliness as He gives me the desire to become more and more like Him in character. Jesus Christ is the Head of His church, He is the Cornerstone, the True Foundation. Study the life and ministry of Jesus Christ in every iota and model His character and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free! Then let’s come together in the unity of the faith that was once delivered unto the saints and have meaningful and purposeful dialogue. Peace and Blessings 🙏🏽!
@cghrios783
@cghrios783 Ай бұрын
@@ricklivingston3493please could you expand on your thoughts. I agree with the video’s host. I would like to know your views. Thanks
@mikelreborn3254
@mikelreborn3254 Ай бұрын
Good to hear you got out ..
@JCtheRemedy
@JCtheRemedy Ай бұрын
@@cghrios783 Yes, hello 👋🏽 how ya doing 😃. Jesus said in John 14:6; “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me”. Jesus is the Way, Jesus is the Truth, Jesus is the Life! Ever since Adam and Eve were evicted from the Garden of Eden, Jesus has opened a portal for fallen humanity to find their way back to the Father. Which in a nutshell is one of the ultimate goals and rewards of Jesus’ sacrifice on the Cross of Calvary. Jesus is the center of attraction, Jesus is to be our focus, because Jesus said in John 12:32; “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me”. Jesus also said in John 15: 5; “without me ye can do nothing”. We must learn how to develop and sustain a faith saving relationship with Jesus Christ. This is of the utmost importance. To establish and maintain a living, loving, trusting, and a submissive born again relationship with Jesus Christ is vitally important, for this is a priceless aid in changing us from the inside out. Jesus said in John 8:29; “for I do always those things that please him”. With the guidance of the Holy Spirit we will be exposed to what is pleasing and acceptable behavior in the sight of God, because we will be following in the footsteps and example of Jesus Christ. Thank you for your interest. Let’s continue the conversation. Peace and Blessings 🙏🏽!
@sondraweikle2334
@sondraweikle2334 26 күн бұрын
I am 56 and grew up in a Pentecostal church till I was 18. Now I belong to a Methodist Church. I recently decided to say I don't belong to a denomination (yes I go to a Methodist church) that I belong to God/Jesus. Amen Praise God Hallelujah.
@1Word2218
@1Word2218 26 күн бұрын
God will not save us because we go to the right church. He will save us because we put our faith fully in him. Sounds like you understand that. God bless.
@jtomally9681
@jtomally9681 Ай бұрын
One thing is certain, not one of us will be 100% correct in what we come to understand as we would want to believe. We all are human beings and simply 'sheep'. What do we know? That is why we need to study and research with prayer and trust in Lord Jesus Christ.
@ludwichpretorius9596
@ludwichpretorius9596 Ай бұрын
This is a good trigger to read the book "Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola and George Barna.
@2besavedcom-7
@2besavedcom-7 Ай бұрын
Changed my life so much that I no longer even refer to myself as a "Christian." Also "Vain Traditions" is an eye opening book loaded with Scriptures that highlight even more of what this video touches on.
@1Word2218
@1Word2218 Ай бұрын
Interesting you should mention that book. Taking a few days vacation and have just begun reading it. Maybe I’ll need to do a part two of the video?!?!
@leighb.-jg7bj
@leighb.-jg7bj Ай бұрын
@@1Word2218 A "Christmas Tree" in a church, or "Easter Service" or "Valentine Banquet" or "Fall Harvest Festival" or "Super Bowl Kickoff Luncheon" effectively render it a pagan temple, to say nothing of the female so-called "Pastor."
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
​@@1Word2218please talk about this book!
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
​@@leighb.-jg7bjeven MALE pastors are not in the Bible
@kaitiscarlett9022
@kaitiscarlett9022 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for mentioning Christmas and other days. I am so sick of being pressured to celebrate Christmas. There is no command to do that, and most of the things associated with Christmas are contradictory to the true account of His birth. But when I tell people that I don't do Christmas, they think I'm weird.
@davidmillward3108
@davidmillward3108 3 күн бұрын
Christmas is sun god worship
@JesusLopez-un6mw
@JesusLopez-un6mw Ай бұрын
There’s another thing, music ministry. When I say that there’s no music ministry mentioned in the New Testament people give me the look, especially if they’re musicians. The gifts are clearly mentioned in the Bible and some ministries but I can’t find that one. Of course it says that we can sing but not as a ministry.
@johnnyplunkett8532
@johnnyplunkett8532 Ай бұрын
The word Psalm is a song with musical accompaniment
@wilsonsmanz
@wilsonsmanz 29 күн бұрын
Why do you have to find it in the New Testament? You don't believe the entire word of God is inspired and profitable for doctrine? David was a skilled musician and the bible says the David ministered to Saul so much so that when Saul was being troubled by evil spirits, he would call David to play for him and that would would bring him peace
@davidmillward3108
@davidmillward3108 3 күн бұрын
God loves worship by music. David played his 22 string harp. 22 strings equating to the 22 Hebrew letters Actually 23 letters including the Aleph Tav symbol for Yeshua appearing some 7000 times in the OT
@donsavinsky2251
@donsavinsky2251 Ай бұрын
THE LORD RESCUED ME OUT OF THE FALSE CATHOLIC WAY!!! PRAISE GOD! FREE INDEED ABD FOLLOWING HIM!!! MARANATHA!
@user-ue2dc6iq3v
@user-ue2dc6iq3v Ай бұрын
I have thought this way for years..........
@JCtheRemedy
@JCtheRemedy Ай бұрын
Confess your FAULTS one another NOT your SINS! James 5: 16. Jesus alone is our Sin bearer. Jesus is the Lamb of God. Jesus alone is our Saviour!
@RedlovesThunder
@RedlovesThunder Ай бұрын
Interesting point!
@heidioverall100
@heidioverall100 Ай бұрын
It does in fact say faults in the kjv. However, the Greek words used in James 5:16 and in Galatians 6:1 means both faults and sin.
@JCtheRemedy
@JCtheRemedy Ай бұрын
@@heidioverall100 Yes 👍🏽, thx for the enlightenment I absolutely agree! 1 John 3:4 says “Whoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law”. If I sin or trespass against my brother whatever ever it may be, I must go to him in humility and ask for forgiveness. Matthew 18: 15-17 gives clear instructions or guidelines on how to achieve this act of humility. I was primarily thinking along the lines of 1 John 2: 1, 2. and 1 Timothy 2: 5, 6. and Luke 5: 21, and Psalms 32: 1- 5. As a contrast and NOT condemnation this experience is far more biblical than the system of the catholic confessional booth of which I had in mind as well. Thx for ur indulgence. Appreciate ur Spirit inspired insight. Peace and Blessings 🙏🏽!
@toneyo4794
@toneyo4794 23 күн бұрын
I look at confession this way. If all you need to do is confess to God for forgiveness of sins then fine, I as a Catholic do that in confession, so that’s covered. If the meaning of ‘whose ever sins you retain are retained and whose ever sins you let loose are loose’ means confess to a particular person such as a Priest then Protestants may fall sort of what’s asked of us.
@JCtheRemedy
@JCtheRemedy 23 күн бұрын
@@toneyo4794 That’s a very interesting perspective. I respect your position. I like what 1 Timothy 2: 5, 6; says “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 6. Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. I lean towards Jesus as my mediator between God and my soul. Also I like what Hebrews 4: 14; says “Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.” This is where I make my confession for forgiveness whether I sin against God or my brother. Of course I go to my brother making confession when I transgress against him seeking forgiveness. I appreciate your response. Peace and Blessings 🙏🏽!
@barryfreeman4706
@barryfreeman4706 Ай бұрын
Well said. You will have more against you than for you regarding these thoughts. Matthew 23 will tell us all we need to know about how Jesus feels about “organized religion” churchianity is not Christianity. It is a variant form based on the traditions of men with just enough God talk to make it seem valid.
@wilsonsmanz
@wilsonsmanz 29 күн бұрын
God isn't interested in a specific title. God is interested in truth and the gospel. If an organized religion displeases God it is not because they are an organized religion but because they are spreading falsehoods.
@nannyathome2
@nannyathome2 Ай бұрын
I’m thinking, I’m thinking and loving every you’ve said. Reminds me a little of a book I read called ‘Don’t shoot, I’m already wounded.
@EndTimesDiscipleX
@EndTimesDiscipleX 29 күн бұрын
Awesome video Brother. It's so good to see truth, and so rare these days. God Bless You.
@hiroshitakeuchi9605
@hiroshitakeuchi9605 Ай бұрын
This is amazing! I think many more people need to hear about this. Are we allowed to share this video with others?
@RedRonFJB
@RedRonFJB Ай бұрын
I WAS "LOOSELY" RAISED CATHOLIC. I USE THAT TERM BECAUSE MY PARENTS WERE NOT STRICT ABOUT ATTENDING CHURCH. WE DID GO ON CHRISTMAS AND EASTER BUT WE WERE NOT DEVOUT. I LEFT THE CHURCH FOR A LONG TIME DURING MY 30S AND 40S BUT FELT LIKE SOMETHING WAS MISSING. I WANTED TO BE AROUND OTHER BELIEVERS . SO I CAME BACK TO CHURCH AND GOT INVOLVED WITH THE CHURCH COMMUNITY. I WENT ON PILGRIMAGES, DID ALTAR SERVING, EVEN SERVED AT FUNERALS AND WEDDINGS. I QUICKLY LEARNED THAT FOR A LOT OF CATHOLICS THE FOCUS IS ON "HOW" THINGS ARE DONE INSTEAD OF "WHY". THESE PEOPLE CAN BE VERY INTENSE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. THE SUBJECT OF THIS VIDEO HAS BOTHERED ME FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. YET I AM TORN BECAUSE I DID LEAVE THE CHURCH AND SPENT TIME AROUND PEOPLE WHO HAD NO RELIGIOUS FOUNDATION AT ALL. IT WAS AS IF THEY HAD NO FOUNDATION-NO TRADITION- NO KNOWLEDGE. YES, IT BOTHERS ME THAT WE HAVE MOVED SO FAR AWAY FROM THE BASIC TEACHINGS OF CHRIST BUT THERE REALLY ISN'T A SOUND ALTERNATIVE. SO I DO GO TO CHURCH BECAUSE I LIKE THE IDEA AND THE TRADITION BUT THE REST I TAKE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT SO TO SPEAK. ....I AM GLAD I FOUND YOUR VIDEO IT ADDRESSES A LOT OF MY CONCERNS AND PLEASE FORGIVE -ALL CAPS- MY COMPUTER IS OFF. THANKS AGAIN.
@ASL-cz9pj
@ASL-cz9pj Ай бұрын
I am a Catholic too. I wanted to know more about the early Church, so I learned some early fathers writing or practise such as in Didache. You'll be surprised that those unbiblical practices are still maintained in Catholic Church. For me, Bible is a manual book that must go along the Tradition. Otherwise many Christians do not practise what Jesus said in the Bible either (most notably Eucharist, to eat and drink His real body and blood). I suggest you watch Dr. Brant Pitre youtube to understand Bible from its Jewish root in the first century
@RedRonFJB
@RedRonFJB Ай бұрын
@@ASL-cz9pj Thanks, i'll look into that. But like i said i'm torn because I want to worship with others and I do really like tradition because i have spent too much time with people who have no foundation, no anchor, nothing giving them a base. So while I know a lot of what is done at my Catholic church is not really literally following scripture at least I'm not with the non -believers.
@ASL-cz9pj
@ASL-cz9pj Ай бұрын
@@RedRonFJB You'll be surprised, how literal actually the Catholic is. Now my understanding is early Christians practiced baptism, worship etc. At the same time New Testament books were written. So we need both Tradition and Bible to fully understand Christianity as Jesus meant it to be. Jesus delegated His authority to the apostles, which becomes Magisterium of the Church. Just look how Alfred Nobel established his testament. He provided the fund, he set the objectives to give prize for 5 field, he set up the panel of experts, and most importantly he apppointed 2 executors, whom later on establish the Nobel Foundation. I think Jesus is much smarter than Alfred Nobel, and His inheritence is much more valuable. I don't believe because it's illogical that I can receive eternal salvation only through Bible. I have searched for Kingdom of God and found it. It's the one, holy, universal and apostolic Church, the holder of God's authority. I hope you can see the analogy to show how important the role of persons who hold God's authority.
@kennethschweighardt4920
@kennethschweighardt4920 Ай бұрын
Let's add announcements, reserved seating, and 'The Message'
@nancyjernigan5840
@nancyjernigan5840 Ай бұрын
And the Passion bible!
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
All part of the product you pay for!
@calebbwamiki5350
@calebbwamiki5350 Ай бұрын
Is it wrong to let your congregation know what is happening within the church by having announcements? Is it wrong to have a specific time for when the Word of God is preached?
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
@@calebbwamiki5350 no. I want to know when the Labor Day Picnic is being held.
@kennethschweighardt4920
@kennethschweighardt4920 Ай бұрын
@@calebbwamiki5350 Yes.. because you are controlling that and not allowing God to. Besides, announcements are not biblical, neither is the 'Pastor Show' where the same guy gets up every week and spits out 'God's message' for the people. Where are the evangelists? Where are the prophets? Where are the Apostles??? Most of the time the guy 'preaching' is not even called to be a 'Pastor' anyway. He is a teacher.. he is a businessman, he is a salesman.. Church is wrong... God is right: "You nullify the commandment of God to preserve your traditions" That is what church is today...
@kathleenoconnor8155
@kathleenoconnor8155 Ай бұрын
What a great thought-provoking video! I too wonder why Christians are not more concerned With Matthew 7. I do not want to be deceived! Thanks for this!
@SunnyChickenChick
@SunnyChickenChick 24 күн бұрын
Wow, I'm so very glad you made this video. As a survivor of a legalistic "denomination" church I was forced to attend growing up, I had already figured these things out, searching the bible. It feels "anti-Christian" to say these things about a "church", but it is correct.
@johnoliver8241
@johnoliver8241 Ай бұрын
So refreshing to have my own thoughts confirmed here. Only problem is, what can I do about it. Trying to find a fellowship that is true to the Bible is almost impossible.
@ronniebaker4549
@ronniebaker4549 29 күн бұрын
Go to your prayer closet and have a personal relationship with God. Don't be like the heathens that pray out loud for everyone to see. Read the red print 1st. Once you are an expert move to the rest of the New Testament.
@joelpenley9791
@joelpenley9791 27 күн бұрын
@@ronniebaker4549 that is terrible advice. When Jesus said to pray to our Father in secret, it was in the context of exposing the hypocrites who purposely prayed in public. Jesus was calling out those people because in their hearts they desired other peoples attention. There is a time to pray in public and we need each other. Only read the red?? Then you will again miss the context. Sorry but your advice is just bad.
@andrewpatton5114
@andrewpatton5114 27 күн бұрын
"The Cup of Blessing, which we bless, is it not a participation in the Blood of Christ? The Bread that we break, is it not a participation in the Body of Christ? Because the loaf of bread is one, we, though many, are one body, for we all partake of the one loaf." Seek the Church that Christ established, which finds its unity in the Lord's Supper.
@kathrynbosler
@kathrynbosler 23 күн бұрын
I loved this . To me, the “church” has become a huge business opportunity for many, and much less a place for making and equipping TRUE believers. In my opinion, Christians need to spend more time in their Bibles and more time loving and investing in the lives of those who God has placed in their lives than they do in serving an organization.
@bobjacobson858
@bobjacobson858 5 күн бұрын
This video makes some excellent points. We should add purgatory, using musical instruments in Christians' worship, and "praying Jesus into your heart" as three additional things not taught by the Bible. Where the Bible provides a command, example or necessary inference, we are to obey and follow it. In some other cases, the Bible requires us to do something, but does not give specifics. For example, a "church building" is simply a convenient place for large numbers of believers to meet--it is, in itself, NOT "holy" and, of course, it isn't "the church" itself. Thus, we ought to speak where the Bible speaks, but remain silent where the Bible is silent.
@REIGNOFCHIC1
@REIGNOFCHIC1 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Awesome video! God bless you all!❤
@johannmeiring4208
@johannmeiring4208 Ай бұрын
Most comments here compliments churchianity rather than Christianity
@ricklivingston3493
@ricklivingston3493 Ай бұрын
Ah, someone else who gets it.
@ronniebaker4549
@ronniebaker4549 29 күн бұрын
American churches spewing blasphemy about Hellfire and other bullshit has ran most away from the church and Millennials and Gen Z never started. Zionism and Christian Nationalists destroyed the Christian church
@LequipeTechnique
@LequipeTechnique 25 күн бұрын
Tell em.. that's how you know babylon really got into people's mind, the mark of the beast is not a chip it's a mindset.
@ronniebaker4549
@ronniebaker4549 25 күн бұрын
@@LequipeTechnique it's money. It's either in your hand or in your head. Greed, manipulation, control, lack of it.
@LequipeTechnique
@LequipeTechnique 21 күн бұрын
@@ronniebaker4549 well not only this, but sinning culture that rules the world, everything that is against God, greed ,lies, anger, idolatry, you name it... It will be on foreheads (mind, thoughts) and hands , (actions) Revelation 13:16-18. This mark is associated with worshiping the beast and its image, and those who refuse to receive it are socially marginalized. This is often interpreted as a symbol of loyalty to the corrupt system of the beast and in opposition to Elohim. In Deuteronomy 6:8, Elohim instructs the Israelites to have His commandments on their hearts and to bind them as a sign on their hand and as frontlets between their eyes, so it's attached to the head. This practice symbolizes obedience to the Word of Elohim and its application in daily. Those two verses are replicating the same concept as you know the enemy doesn't go really far when he plots.
@JohnMChew
@JohnMChew Ай бұрын
Sound system, internet, live streaming, digitally recording and uploading onto youtube, are not in the bible.
@dwyak55
@dwyak55 Ай бұрын
Neither were telephones, planes, trains, and automobiles. Does that make them all evil?
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
Forcing people to turn to support this circus and at the same time dangling you over hell
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
​@@dwyak55yes
@kennethchabuka
@kennethchabuka Ай бұрын
These are not practices doctrinal or otherwise but simply used in pursuit of preaching of the gospel. Nothing wrong with use of technology
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
@@kennethchabuka well yes and no
@birds_and_sparrows
@birds_and_sparrows 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing these truths! I see your heart to seek God and obey His commands! I see the Body of Christ being stirred by the Holy Spirit to return to Christ’s headship of the church! ❤🎉
@stephenkariuki1597
@stephenkariuki1597 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the presentation. Church( Ekklesia) is a people called out of denominations etc darkness, meeting, two three or more fellowshipping to glorify the God of Israel. They are a subset of the revelation given exclusively to Israel. So they will obey the 10 commandments and worship God in Spirit and truth. For God the Father seeks such people. They will not add or take away. Shalom. Kenyan Ekklesia.
@davidhorsley1149
@davidhorsley1149 Ай бұрын
Several things mentioned are in the Bible; the office of Pastor, is mentioned along with Teacher as two of the Five-fold ministry gifts given by the Holy Spirit. Further, the ministry or position of Bishop is also spoken of, both as a part of the ministry of the Church and as the calling of Judas, removed after his betrayal. As to the Church building, it holds no similarity to the Tabernacle or the Temple, but I think that God will have no problem with the modern body of believers holding title to a piece of land and a building, sanctified and designated as a meeting place for the "True Church", the body of believers for worship. There are two sides to the coin you are pointing out, both, the danger of Idolatry and legalism, but Christians walk that razors edge in many things in their daily lives.
@thereseservais924
@thereseservais924 Ай бұрын
Agree. I thought so about the synagogues at that time.
@johnlobb6758
@johnlobb6758 Ай бұрын
Is the word “Pastor” a title or something that people do? Jesus seems to have spoken against titles like father and teacher in Matthew!
@davidhorsley1149
@davidhorsley1149 Ай бұрын
@@johnlobb6758 The Apostle Paul, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit listed "Pastor" as one of the Five fold ministry gifts of the Holy Spirit, in the Epistle to the Church at Ephesus. The five are; "Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, and Teacher." Though some people may falsely appropriate the title to themselves, these are more than mere titles, they are actual calling gifts bestowed upon people for the purpose of equipping the Saints within the Church.
@johnlobb6758
@johnlobb6758 Ай бұрын
Was it a gift or a title?
@johnlobb6758
@johnlobb6758 Ай бұрын
Bear in mind Paul did not call himself “The Apostle Paul” but Paul an apostle and Peter does not give himself a title but says he is an apostle. My own view is that the modern church is too much into titles which divide the church into “We and They”
@JWboing
@JWboing Ай бұрын
[1Co 14:26 ESV] 26 What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.
@LequipeTechnique
@LequipeTechnique 25 күн бұрын
That's it right there. This is what a chruch gathering should look like, Plus teachings of the word.
@pogito5816
@pogito5816 29 күн бұрын
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things. Philippians 4:8
@jonpaia5111
@jonpaia5111 17 сағат бұрын
"Whether therefore ye eat or drink or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."
@johnnyplunkett8532
@johnnyplunkett8532 Ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:26 (KJV) How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
@JimFrye-ub3kq
@JimFrye-ub3kq Ай бұрын
A lot of good points, even though a lot of your commenters couldn't handle some of them!
@therezarutkoski2244
@therezarutkoski2244 26 күн бұрын
Alot of these things we already are aware of, you do you and we will do what God instructs
@DavidGrapesVinyard
@DavidGrapesVinyard 22 күн бұрын
Having studied for over 50 years while willing to embrace those things which He freely gives I can fully agree!
@nestoriancalvin4071
@nestoriancalvin4071 18 күн бұрын
50 years is awesome! Do you have your own ministry?
@robertarthur7997
@robertarthur7997 27 күн бұрын
This video is on point, good stuff!
@kevingross7082
@kevingross7082 Ай бұрын
In Christ is who I am. Church is were I am assigned.
@narcissistinjurygiver2932
@narcissistinjurygiver2932 Ай бұрын
so you will follow the antichrist pope of rome?
@ernestbailey6617
@ernestbailey6617 Ай бұрын
Question what Bible are you using
@nestoriancalvin4071
@nestoriancalvin4071 18 күн бұрын
KJV - the bible Jesus used
@joerivera7719
@joerivera7719 29 күн бұрын
Hi, I am new to your Ministry. In relation to point #9; would not fall in line with Hebrews 10:25? "...not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching”. Would not there be "corporate worship" with the assembly of believers in Christ? I am open to correction.
@princeplayzytp7345
@princeplayzytp7345 Ай бұрын
He's very right about the denominations
@glenaucoin9842
@glenaucoin9842 28 күн бұрын
Denominations started with Martin luther who founded the Lutheran church which started the various protestant churches ,beliefs, traditions but king Henry 8 pretty much formalized this is all from what I remember in history
@markjohnson9402
@markjohnson9402 28 күн бұрын
People do all these things for the same reason they go to restaurants. Laziness and convenience. They want to be led, and check off boxes. Lemmings off the cliff.
@chrispitrakkos8925
@chrispitrakkos8925 29 күн бұрын
I'm with you my brother. Revolation says: do not add nor take away from the word. All this negative attitude towards one another Paul wrote in his letters, this is all happening now.
@zanapwilliams9388
@zanapwilliams9388 28 күн бұрын
Thank you very much, this was so enlightening.
@joyfultrails
@joyfultrails Ай бұрын
Add church membership and tithing (as it is taught today).
@PrisonPreacher
@PrisonPreacher Ай бұрын
The comment I was looking for! THANK YOU!!
@truth7733
@truth7733 Ай бұрын
@joy...once again stupid useless posts show up..tithing is to be done today so what do you mean as taught today..I know pastors I listen to can correctly teach on that subject..if you cannot be more precise in your posts it becomes just dribble
@EDD519
@EDD519 Ай бұрын
@@truth7733 old law !
@romeorozeta4998
@romeorozeta4998 Ай бұрын
@@truth7733 Tithing is a matter of thew law, and we are to consider ourselves dead to the law.
@truth7733
@truth7733 Ай бұрын
@romeorozeta4998 you silly thing. Jesus himself said you are to tothe and he also said he did not change one jot of the law. You can not be saved by it any longer. So old law is dead huh. Can I steal? Can I not honor my father and mother and it be fine. You need to actually read and understand the Bible and find a teacher that can help you because right now you are seeped in traditions of man.
@daves2520
@daves2520 Ай бұрын
Another thing that is not in the Bible is the performance of marriage ceremonies. There is no example of a pastor performing a wedding ceremony in the Bible, let alone stating that a pastor is authorized to marry someone. This is all tradition.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 23 күн бұрын
quote----Another thing that is not in the Bible is the performance of marriage ceremonies. There is no example of a pastor performing a wedding ceremony in the Bible, let alone stating that a pastor is authorized to marry someone. This is all tradition... unquote Nope--all using different aspects of the bible. btw--God performed weddings. ---Mark 10:9 KJV - What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. ---Genesis 2:24,Matthew 19:5,Mark 10:8,Ephesians 5:31 NASB For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. ----1 Corinthians 7:39 “A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies,
@terrifictomm
@terrifictomm Ай бұрын
Here is the only "Order of Service" described in the New Testament. Decades ago, when meetings in homes following this order were common in many places I never failed to experience the Presence of God and the Grace of the Holy Spirit there: “What is it then, brothers? When you come together, each one of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has another language, or has an interpretation. Let all things be done to build each other up.” If any man speaks in another language, let there be two, or at the most three, and in turn; and let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in the assembly, and let him speak to himself and to God. Let two or three of the prophets speak, and let the others discern. But if a revelation is made to another sitting by, let the first keep silent. For you all can prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be exhorted. The spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets, for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the assemblies of the saints. Corinthians‬ ‭14‬:‭2‬6-33 World English Bible
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
Sounds simple to me. What about the smoke generators and laser beams?
@terrifictomm
@terrifictomm Ай бұрын
@@VictorianMaid99 The anti-Christ, of course. He's prepping for the Abomination that Causes Desolation.
@terrifictomm
@terrifictomm Ай бұрын
@@VictorianMaid99 They're preparing for the Abomination that Causes Desolation.
@nestoriancalvin4071
@nestoriancalvin4071 18 күн бұрын
@@VictorianMaid99 I dont see that in the bible. Does a trailer count as a home? Mine is mobile, I think im sinning
@danielstainbrook4795
@danielstainbrook4795 26 күн бұрын
Absolutely love what you are saying here even and especially about the temple. You did forget to mention that tithing and explaining what that really means too cuz that's not actually in the scripture the way that people think it is
@turnbacktotruth3291
@turnbacktotruth3291 Ай бұрын
You are correct about those 10 things, that was part of the reason I had to leave sunday church. We can argue doctrine, but each of us has to stand before Yahuah and answer for the actions of our life, both in Romans 2 and Revelation 20 it says we will be judged on our works, not to mention what James has to say about being a doer of the word. However you left out some of the most important things. NO where does it do away with the 4th commandment, how many christians honor the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy. Also the replacement of the names, Yahuah with God, Yahusha with Jesus, which didn't happen until the1590's. I am now a WAY walker trying to honor John 14:15 If you love Me, you will obey what I command. Thanks
@bugsocsollie1694
@bugsocsollie1694 Ай бұрын
...then I feel sorry for you on judgment day. Do you really think you'll be saved because of what you do (or don't do)??? "...look at all our many wonderful works..." Only Paul's Gospel of Grace is the power of God unto salvation for anyone that believes it (Romans 1:16). Just remember, when Israel's 70th week begins and God goes back to dealing with them according to their prophecy, it will be too late to be saved by Grace through faith. What you do then really will make a difference in where you'll spend eternity. Do not take the Mark. 1 John 5:16
@2besavedcom-7
@2besavedcom-7 Ай бұрын
@@bugsocsollie1694 - honestly, that was a really ignorant answer. There are necessary step that lead to salvation and if you refuse the Covenant that Yahweh prophesied to Israel, then you're still a gentile, lost in your sin... "But do you wish to know, O foolish man, that the belief without the works is dead?" (James 2:20) "But he that looked into the PERFECT Law, that of freedom, and continues in it, not becoming a hearer that forgets, but a DOER of work, this one shall be blessed in his doing." (James 1:25)
@bugsocsollie1694
@bugsocsollie1694 Ай бұрын
@2besavedcom-7 I'm a member of the Body of Christ Church. I'm not Israel and I'm not part of Israel's covenant. James was not written to the Body of Christ, he was writing to Israel.
@2besavedcom-7
@2besavedcom-7 Ай бұрын
@@bugsocsollie1694 - There is no Covenant to anyone else except Israel and Judah. Find ONE Text in the Bible that tells you there is a Covenant to the gentiles.
@bugsocsollie1694
@bugsocsollie1694 Ай бұрын
@2besavedcom-7 I know. And the Body of Christ Church is not part of Israel's covenant. We aren't in a covenant at all.
@ritadyer9295
@ritadyer9295 Ай бұрын
I think most missed your point and context. Good points you made. Churches teach traditions as gospel and then act as if it is taught or commanded in the Bible. What do you think about revivals and altar calls? My pastor acts like you are backslid if you don’t watch the fb live while it is live if you aren’t physically in the church house that day. I hate holidays in the church. I don’t go today because it’s Mother’s Day and it will be too emotional for me. I hate songs in church that aren’t about God.
@simangeleelsiedube9296
@simangeleelsiedube9296 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this light to the nation. U are truly the light of world. Anything not mentioned in the scriptue is not from the God our father
@estherharford9163
@estherharford9163 26 күн бұрын
I applaud you sir, great video 👏🏾👏🏾
@dbsmith906
@dbsmith906 Ай бұрын
Very good commentary! What does the Bible say about a church membership roll???
@1Word2218
@1Word2218 Ай бұрын
I don't find that in the Bible either. Just one more to add to the list.
@AVoiceCryingintheDesert-tq4vw
@AVoiceCryingintheDesert-tq4vw Ай бұрын
The fact is, everything known as and called the church/Christianity is all 100% apostate from God, the truth, and the Christianity of the Bible. The few actual Christians that exist are all completely outside of the church. They are voices crying from the wilderness/desert. And when the people of the church hear from an actual Christian, they reject the truth of the Bible, revile the bringer of truth, and just go right back to their wallowing in the mire.
@hjk7833
@hjk7833 Ай бұрын
I don't see anything in the Bible about commenting on KZbin videos. Or making KZbin videos. Or owning cell phones. Why are you all going beyond the clear teachings of Scripture?
@MichaelTheophilus906
@MichaelTheophilus906 Ай бұрын
What does the bible say about believing in the trinity to be saved? Nothing. John 17.3
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 Ай бұрын
@@hjk7833 You have spoken in absolute ignorance. Repent!
@johnpatitucci7919
@johnpatitucci7919 Ай бұрын
Churchianity chokes out the true Gospel.
@nestoriancalvin4071
@nestoriancalvin4071 18 күн бұрын
Church is bad. I cant believe they invented those things.
@Coolmike19
@Coolmike19 Ай бұрын
I totally agree with this video, because I used to be a deacon but when I became a Sunday school teacher I started reading the Bible for my self and then I thought all these things that we do as a church, I was so amazed that these things were not in the Bible. I Started telling my family to read their Bibles but they thought I was crazy, even one of them said I don't care if it's not in the Bible or not. So since that day I have my sabbath on Saturday just like in the Bible, and theirs on Sunday
@joehansen9447
@joehansen9447 28 күн бұрын
Good for you Mike! Man changed the Sabbath to Sunday not God. Heaven rejoices to see you boldly stand alone for His namesake.
@Coolmike19
@Coolmike19 28 күн бұрын
@@joehansen9447 Give the Most High Praise 🙏
@brianlucas7604
@brianlucas7604 26 күн бұрын
You are starting on the right track.
@ericowens964
@ericowens964 Ай бұрын
A lot of this is a stretch. The Bible doesn’t say to be clean shaven yet this man is. It doesn’t say to have green paint on your office wall yet he does. Although I agree that we are nothing like the early church I would agree that at the heart of most church (not all) is the mission to spread the good news.
@PsychologyStud
@PsychologyStud 26 күн бұрын
I agree with both this video and you. Your point about clean shaven only counts as a comparison if it is promoted by the church to be saved or part of being saved. In Galatians, Paul calls out Peter for enforcing Jewish traditions as a condition to be Christian. I think he is calling other people out in that context. I do not think this really matters as long as people are being lead to Christ, such as how one can practice Jewish traditions if they choose as long as they are Christian. It is when enforcing it as a condition of salvation is when this is harmful. So it is fine to have green walls, as he does, but if one says “you need to have green walls to be a real Christian” then that is when one is mistaken. Same with the 10 things he listed. The man who made this video said these things cause self-justification and division. I think having these things could go as he said or be inconsequential. Just depends on where your heart is, as you mentioned, which should be to spread the Good Word. If someone is spreading the Good Word, but is also following unnecessary traditions that do not contradict the Word, that seems fine to me. It is when tradition contradicts God’s will that we should repent. The same tradition that helps one stay on a righteous path may cause another to stumble (i.e being held accountable by church higher ups can cause one to live righteously and another to feel prideful or anxious or commit idolatry by holding the church members as a god in their heart.)
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 23 күн бұрын
quote----The Bible does say to be clean shaven yet this man is... unquote Book,chapter and verse!!!
@ericowens964
@ericowens964 23 күн бұрын
@@mitchellosmer1293 I reread what I wrote. Ansley the Bible does not say that. I was trying to be sarcastic. Oh well. Lol
@nestoriancalvin4071
@nestoriancalvin4071 18 күн бұрын
@@ericowens964 sarcasm is not in the bible. I looked it up in strongs.
@billlebrave8539
@billlebrave8539 Ай бұрын
they may not have had church "buildings" (number 10) but they did have synagogues. Aren't they the same thing?
@ckh57
@ckh57 Ай бұрын
The they you are referring to is the Jewish religion not the followers of Jesus . Synagogues were the Jewish places of religious gatherings, they had nothing to do with Jesus and his followers, Christians, those who followed Jesus, met in private houses in the beginning at that time ,not in organized sanctioned places like Synagogues (and the church was and is those who follow Jesus, not an organized religion denomination that met in a particular building like a synagogue, as the Jewish religion. The majority of todays modern church denominations have sold their soul to the state through the 501-3C controlled state organizations. Which gives the evil state the right to dictate what the organized church can and can not say to the people. Volition of any of their rules they have the right under these LLC agreements to shut you down and seize all assets , and even give it to whom ever they desire , and it does not even have to be another so called Christian group. For example under the 501-3C any political endorsements or political speech can trigger this if some one complains and reports you to the state. They have the right to lock your doors and seize all. Your free speech is given away when you sign a 501-3C document and you are now a state controlled LLC organization, A state church which is bound to any and all rules the state now has in place or will put in place. Satan now has control through the state of all 501-3C LLC churches and the state can step in any time and take complete control for a violation of their rules. The love of a few dollars of so called tax benefits , and the church denominations have sold out their people to the evil state.
@junegagnon3921
@junegagnon3921 Ай бұрын
​@@ckh57Most of the early believers were Jewish and they met in the synagogues and were even known as a "sect" of the Jews. Act 13:42-44 KJV 42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. 43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. 44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
@RedlovesThunder
@RedlovesThunder Ай бұрын
@@ckh57 Agreed 100%!!! Been saying this for years!
@Mike-zj5ww
@Mike-zj5ww Ай бұрын
Spoiler alert: KZbin preachers aren't in the Bible either. Should we dump them as well?
@andrewpatton5114
@andrewpatton5114 27 күн бұрын
No, not remotely. Synagogues were not places of worship (and properly speaking, still aren't). Church buildings are analogous to the Temple, not the synagogues.
@FlamingBlueKing2012
@FlamingBlueKing2012 27 күн бұрын
I love your video. However , you mention the Bible and what the Bible says! I’m having a struggle with all the different Bibles that the churches use. I grew up using the King James version. When I go to church, they’ll pull out several different Bibles during the service. What Bible do you use?
@1Word2218
@1Word2218 27 күн бұрын
I mostly use the NASB and ESV as they are considered the most literal translations from the original language. I also look up words in a Greek lexicon to help me discern what the original message of the author was. One other suggestion. Read paragraphs instead of individual verses. The verses were added later and can lead us to break a message from the author into little bits and pieces the author never intended, sometimes resulting in us interpreting things rather incorrectly.
@davidmillward3108
@davidmillward3108 2 күн бұрын
Personally I use the Hebrew Bible, the tree of life version and a rather obscure Aleph-Tav Bible.
@user-uo6bk6jb8v
@user-uo6bk6jb8v Ай бұрын
Thank you. I have studied this many times you are right
@marcusrichardson3800
@marcusrichardson3800 Ай бұрын
Nothing has changed. As soon as the first church of God ( Christ) was established on Pentecost, first century, …… by Acts chapter 7, complaints and divisions were breaking out among the assembly. Then persecution and scattering. Which helped in the spread of the gospel. As Paul traveled and established congregations all over the world “(known). In his letters to congregations he had to deal with order and disciplinary issues. People are just stiffnecked just as the Israelites were. We can’t even agree on translations!
@watchoutnow5419
@watchoutnow5419 Ай бұрын
Speaking of Israelites, Act 7:38, tells us that the first church was established way back with Israel in the wilderness. Not on Pentecost some 1,000 years later. That being said to find out what the Original Church was on or about we have to know and do what this church, established in the Wilderness, was Commanded to do.
@bigtobacco1098
@bigtobacco1098 Ай бұрын
​@@watchoutnow5419sacrifice at the temple
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 Ай бұрын
There are NO Christians in the church (any church).
@narcissistinjurygiver2932
@narcissistinjurygiver2932 Ай бұрын
who ever wrote acts did not even know where abraham was buried
@watchoutnow5419
@watchoutnow5419 Ай бұрын
@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 what does that have to do with what the original church was established on?
@kd2mill
@kd2mill Ай бұрын
Here's another church routine that isn't in the Bible: ALTER CALLS. Evangelism is clearly taught as one-to-one. Sure, Peter told the Jews gathered at Pentecost to repent, but the count was conducted at their baptisms.
@kithsirirubesinghe.338
@kithsirirubesinghe.338 Ай бұрын
Alter calls boost the ego of the preacher seeking human affirmation instead of God's approval.
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
Alter calls are a pressure technique to get you into church
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
​@@kithsirirubesinghe.338it is thrilling to see all the young girls withering at your feet
@Fokkerc1
@Fokkerc1 Ай бұрын
Alter calls allow the affirmation of a person's allowing the Holy Spirit into their life.
@kennethchabuka
@kennethchabuka Ай бұрын
An ALTAR is a place of suffering of an animal which culminates in the shedding of its blood. ALTAR call is where sinners suffer and are slaughtered! We only have 1 ALTAR according to Heb 13v10_14
@WillieWilliams-hy9wl
@WillieWilliams-hy9wl 23 күн бұрын
May My Father In Heaven! Bless You! Sir! Amen!
@NithiyaAdithiya1808
@NithiyaAdithiya1808 Ай бұрын
My church has a denomination name CSI, my church build massive tower, my church has minimal worship service, but celebrate each and every profession day and national days such as doctors day, nurses day, teachers day, engineers da, independence day....also celebrate Christmas, Easter and Lent...... Thanks for your briefing brother
@scottfoxl7431
@scottfoxl7431 Ай бұрын
I agree with 9 of your points. Where we're at odds is your point about celebrating holidays like Christmas. Romans 14:5 says we can celebrate them if we want to, as well as Colossions 2:16
@graftme3168
@graftme3168 Ай бұрын
I agree. Whether you celebrate traditions or not, it doesn't make you better or worse. It doesn't make you more, or less, spiritual. The problem is that some denominations either prohibit them or command that we practice them for spiritual reasons. I agree we don't turn them into doctrine. But, neither should they be prohibited. That is how I interpret the matter Biblically. Prohibitions on tradition is just as unbiblical as commanding them. I don't know of any Christian denomination that makes celebrating Christmas mandatory.
@RedlovesThunder
@RedlovesThunder Ай бұрын
Since no one knows the exact date of Christ's birth, I choose to celebrate it on December 25....no big deal at all. But many legalistic Christians make it a big deal!
@bw2442
@bw2442 Ай бұрын
Why don’t we just gather and share the living present moment alive Christ and stay away from anything that leads people into believing that Christ is not present now?
@clayh.92
@clayh.92 Ай бұрын
He didn’t mention organs and rock bands in the worship service. Just find hard rock in the Bible. ONLY congregational singing is mentioned.
@1Word2218
@1Word2218 Ай бұрын
Yep, just one more thing we've added to God's design that isn't instructed in the Bible.
@brianschmidt704
@brianschmidt704 Ай бұрын
Our church does have instruments. But The singers are Emphasized not the music. It is not about how wonderful the musicians are, It is about the wonderful truth that are Sung. The congregation sings with them.Just like in the old testament where the singers led the worship and the congregation sang with them.
@davidlafleche1142
@davidlafleche1142 Ай бұрын
"Super Bowl parties" are insane (Matthew 13:22, KJV).
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 Ай бұрын
@@brianschmidt704 ,...You are completely deceived. Repent!
@brianschmidt704
@brianschmidt704 Ай бұрын
@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 What am I deceived about?
@Crowbrother7
@Crowbrother7 23 күн бұрын
Very good video! Thanks!
@marilynbenjamin2506
@marilynbenjamin2506 25 күн бұрын
you are sooooooooooooooo ON point!!!!!
@copterpilot50
@copterpilot50 Ай бұрын
FINALLY!!! Someone who gets it! I too could add at least 10-15 things (maybe more ... would have to check my list) to your list. Sadly, o many of the commenters either miss the point or rationalize their own doings.
@ricklivingston3493
@ricklivingston3493 Ай бұрын
Please don't. It's enough legalism for one post.
@bw2442
@bw2442 Ай бұрын
The people will refuse to see that churches are a heirachy and will not let go of their traditions even after the churches are filled with new age globalistic teachings approved by the state. God himself will have to pry the idea from their hands.
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 Ай бұрын
With this 100% correct video/teaching, and the comments it has generated, you have exposed how absolutely Biblically illiterate, unsaved, blind, lost, deceived, and unchristian all the people of the church really are.
@2besavedcom-7
@2besavedcom-7 Ай бұрын
Best comment! He actually could've included a LOT more vain traditions of Christianity not found in the Bible.
@dorcasowens8521
@dorcasowens8521 23 күн бұрын
I have served the Lord for 45 years. I have a deep burden and conviction to teach our young people and children what the Word of God says and how they can walk in Victory by living in it. How to pray, how to study, how to hear God's voice. How to abide in Christ, How to recognize His Calling on their lives. And how to not let the spirit of the world infiltrate their minds. Train up the children in the way they should go; and when they are old they will not depart from it. Jesus said " Suffer the children come unto me, for such is the Kingdom of Heaven." We will be held accountable for what we did not do!
@davidroberts9037
@davidroberts9037 21 күн бұрын
Good job....many excellent points
@PaulZeron
@PaulZeron Ай бұрын
It didn't take long for churches to start adding things on to what Jesus said. He didn't even use the word "Christian." The Bible records how the dastardly church of Antioch added that one. After I have been so enlightened, I am not going to let my deacons talk to me anymore. No arch bishop, but I can certainly be a plain bishop which is the word overseer and administrator, but certainly that is without authority so Heb 13:17 can't possibly apply to a bishop. Also, how dare the Jews in Esther's time add on Purim to the feasts of the Pentateuch? And who did Jesus think He was attending the Feast of Lights in John 10? And why did the early church dare to meet on the first day of the week? We are now able to save a lot of time because now we know we don't have to meet together unless the whole church can come together at one time. Since we now reject divisions of any kind we will never have to meet because it will be impossible for the whole church from across the world to get together. Big savings on clothing too since I can ditch my suit for a robe like the early church wore. However, if everyone else gives this up we will all be wearing the same thing anyway...another uniform. If I can finally get everyone to come together at one time, I will be careful to not do anything distinctive from one time to the next. No more Sunday School, no more Bible study groups, just get together so we can be all Christiany...whatever that is supposed to look like. Maybe he can tell us what the rules are for when we get together. Now I can sell off our building. Of course, it will be hard to get the whole church which is not allowed to divide into Jack's living room. Or maybe we can rent a large conference room and give our money to some worldly business...sounds like good stewardship to me! Of course I say all this with the most sanctimonious tone of incredulity at how anyone could be so stupid to not agree with me. Or, maybe I'm just being sarcastic.
@bpollock82
@bpollock82 25 күн бұрын
Was the Apostle Peter dastardly? 1 Peter 4:16
@PaulZeron
@PaulZeron 25 күн бұрын
@@bpollock82 Only possibly in the eyes of this youtube provider
@kenchilton
@kenchilton Ай бұрын
An elder is understood to be an overseer (ἐπίσκοπος) of the members and shepherd (ποιμήν) of the entire flock. It is not logical gymnastics. Deacons are still part of the flock, and still members of the congregation, and still under the oversight of the elders. Philippians 1 makes it clear that Deacons are not overseers, and Titus 1 and Acts 20:28 make it clear that elders are overseers. 1 Peter 5 freely intermixes elder and overseer as the same office. 1 Timothy 5:17 makes it clear that there are two kinds of elders: those who can teach and those who only rule. Note that Paul makes it clear that elders rule - deacons are never said to rule. Deacons (the seven) are appointed by elders over things, not people. Paul commands that Deacon Phoebe be listened to, because her office (deacon) does not inherently imply that they need to help - they must assist her because Paul commanded it. The office of deacon is never described as ruling or a step stone to being an elder - they are workers who organize and see to the tasks under the authority given to the elders.
@stephent5963
@stephent5963 Ай бұрын
You are doing the mental gymnastics. You are first making the argument that deacons are a part of the flock, then following your reasoning the are under overseers. The deacons and overseers are under the church and accountable to the church. If anyone has an issue with an elder, bring it to the church. When Antioch sent out people it was stated that it seemed good to the church also. The overseer has no authority to tell people to do things outside of God's word. The function is to mature the body, not to have authority for the sake of have authority. They are a part of the body, Jesus is the head. You need to do a great deal more clarification. Your goal should be for the maturing of the body and mutual edification. All the leadership in the seven churches where in a bad state. It is Jesus who walks among the lampstands, who has something on his mind, not the elders. They like the rest of us need to listen and repent where He tells us to repent. This is not the time to try and lord it over people. Ever since Paul left bad men have been in the church. They were the ones we start with first when we check their faithfulness.....
@kenchilton
@kenchilton Ай бұрын
@@stephent5963 The video mentioned "large assumptions and inferences" were needed to show that the office of deacon was under the office of elder. I purported to show that this relationship was logical given that elders are described as overseeing and ruling over the flock and the deacons are not given such a description, which combined with the fact that the deacons are still part of the flock that they must also be under the oversight of the elders. (cf. Acts 20:28) Yes, I did not describe the relationship between the church and the elders or the church as a body and its members individually. I also did not point out the obvious and equally undisputed truth that Jesus is the Head of the church and that He is King of Kings and Lord of all. I also did not describe how God is the Creator of all and that marriage is only between a man and a woman. There are many things I could have included, but I only included what should have been sufficient to show that it is logical to see that there is a relationship between a deacon and the elders wherein the deacon is under the oversight of the elders as _required_ by the Lord. The rest I considered off-topic and superfluous for the understanding of the elders-deacon relationship. Are deacons exempt from Hebrews 13:17? 1 Thessalonians 5:12? Elders are to shepherd the flock, the whole flock including each other, by authoritative biblical teaching and oversight (1 Tim. 3:2; 1 Pet 5:2). The deacons do their work so that the elders can devote themselves to the ministry of the word, prayer, and oversight (Acts 6:1-6). Paul called the elders, and not deacons, and tells them, "Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood." (Acts 20:17-38, quoted from v. 28). Who did Jesus instruct to feed and tend his sheep? Deacons? (John 21:15-17; cf. 1 Peter 5:2) Deacons are called to submit to the leadership of the elders like every other church member (Heb. 13:7-17). Deacons are _not_ called to resist, rebel, contradict, overrule, supervise, nor oversee elders according to their office. Deacons are not to be a source of division, but in recognition of the Lord's delegation of authority to the elders, should be supportive of their efforts as they pertain to the ministry and life of the church (Eph 4:1-3). Therefore deacons, like any other member of the congregation, submit to the authority of the elders in the ministry and life of the church, to promote the Gospel, build the ministry, grow the hearts and minds of the members, care for one another, and enact that which the Lord commanded us to do, to love one another. Deacons and elders, individually, are part of the whole body of the congregation, which is the body of Christ. An individual elder is not a law unto himself. Any elder is also under the oversight of the elders. I agree with the video that there are only these two offices, elder and deacon. I agree with all the other points made. I also assert that the office of deacon is not intended to be a stepping stone to becoming an elder. I also assert that an elder has no authority on his own. I also assert that the elders have no authority beyond the Gospel, but includes the ministry of the church and the spiritual lives of the members. The rights to communion of any individual within the church is beyond the scope of this topic and the division of the authority vested in the office or elder versus the authority vested solely in the congregation as a body varies across denominations. However, since you brought it into the conversation, the corporate powers of the congregation generally include membership, excommunication, investiture, and removal from office, which at least can be said to be actions of oversight retained by congregations. These authorities are derived from Acts 6 where the congregation is responsible for the selection of the individuals to be appointed as deacons. Extending this authority to church membership is supported by Matthew 18:15-17. However, removing an elder from office by the congregation is a bit more difficult to support but is generally accepted (1 Timothy 3:2, 5:19-20; Titus 1:7), although one could argue that only rebuke or excommunication is explicitly warranted. Again, all of this paragraph is not relevant to the elders/deacon relationship, which is the only subject I originally addressed.
@stephent5963
@stephent5963 Ай бұрын
@@kenchilton Again you are implying the relationship, it is not explicit. Firstly, deal with your own personal need for authority before you can see through spiritual eyes what the nature of overseer is. The word for overseer appears twice as many times as the word for 'leader' in the epistles. Further, the word for leader is as it says, to go before, so speaks of example. The word for rule, which is 'arch' is used exclusively for rulers of the world and rulers in heavenly places. It's interesting how you fall more on the word rule, rather than lead.
@kenchilton
@kenchilton Ай бұрын
@@stephent5963 The relationship is as explicitly described as it needs to be. Elders are to προεστῶτες, as used in 1 Timothy 3:4, 5, 12; 5:17, 1 Thessalonians 5:12, and Romans 12:8. This word is most often translated to "rule" (KJV, NKJV, ESV, RSV, etc.). I use "rule" obviously in that context, since we are not discussing any other. You may use "lead", but also with the understanding that to match the biblical text this still must imply the authority of the original word. We cannot ignore statements such as in 1 Thessalonians 5:12, which is not just setting an example and hoping others follow. The elders "are over you in the Lord and admonish you." The phrase "over you" translates προϊσταμένους, which can also be translated "to rule" and does appear as "rule" in many translations in any of the places it appears. I am not using the word beyond this use -- I am not including any draconian despotism or high-handedness as a necessary part of the definition, which is prohibited in 1 Peter 5:3. Hebrews 13:17 commands that we "obey", which is not just leading by example. I rebuke your command that I "deal with your own personal need for authority." Who are you to me? What do you know of me? Your turn to the _ad hominem_ instead of exploring the Word of God with me is not of the Spirit. No man by nature desires authority, or is Peter wrong? (2 Peter 2:10) A willingness to submit one to another is necessary for our Lord to command! (Ephesians 5:21) If you do not understand mankind's rebellion against all authority except that which serves and bows his carnal desires, you have not read the Bible. What do you think Israel was doing? Leading? Being led? The willingness to obey God, and respect those He has placed over us for our good, is *without question* one hallmark of a Christian. I assert that every true Christian is a submissive person, so the need to respect authority is a gift from God. I will not "deal with" it! I will embrace it! Thank the Lord that He has seen fit to bless me with a spirit of love and not the anger of rebellion!
@stephent5963
@stephent5963 Ай бұрын
@@kenchilton 2Pe 2:10 "those who.... despise authority." No too sure the point you are making. Are you implying those of the sinful nature don't desire to have authority over others? Scriptures don't say that. Remember what Jesus said about lording it over others. The cloud lead the people in the desert, not men. Lording it over is to rule to take under their power. One has to make sure that their pride gets well out of the way before the even look at the role of leader (which I would argue is leading by example). Still concerned that you are kind of suggesting a spirit of fear of the church rulers, almost to the point of not touching the lord's anointed. I also detect a false humility.
@delboytrotter2042
@delboytrotter2042 24 күн бұрын
This video gives me something to think about. Lately ive been struggling with wanting fellowship with other believers but cant seem to find a denomination that is Bible only. Meaning.. one that like your video here follows only whats in the Word and nothing more. Family members invited me to visit their church recently but its Pentecostal and there was the mumbling and chanting made up words when the tongues hit a lady during worship. I just couldnt believe that people are going along with some of this. Havent been back but that leaves me here today. Maybe theres hope in having home based gatherings? Denominations to me seem to just divide the Church.. the people im meaning here. The Church not as the building or the name of this branch or that but the people who go forth with the great commission. Thx.. You've stoked my coals for not putting a label on it.
@jonathansmiddy7224
@jonathansmiddy7224 17 күн бұрын
I've got 35 *different Christian churches within a 5 mile radius of my house. How many do you have?
@BoCarvish
@BoCarvish Ай бұрын
Oh Brother, That's good stuff, Woops! You've stirred the pot, instead of praying for peace and wisdom, some would rather fight tooth and nail to hold onto tradition. Let God be True, and every man a liar.
@georgf.davids8216
@georgf.davids8216 Ай бұрын
Paul preached untill midnight and one guy fell out of the window. Isn't a window part of a room.? Or a building?
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
​@@georgf.davids8216yes
@RedRonFJB
@RedRonFJB Ай бұрын
LIKE I SAID IN MY COMMENT.....I HAVE SPENT TIME WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO TRADITION- NO BELIEVE OF GOD- NO RELIGION AND I AM TORN. I DO LIKE TRADITION I THINK IT ROOTS YOU TO SOMETHING BIGGER THAN YOURSELF BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT IS SAID IN THIS VIDEO.
@VictorianMaid99
@VictorianMaid99 Ай бұрын
@@RedRonFJB I think traditions have their place on culture. The Jews had plenty of traditions that made void of the word of God. Jesus did not say become stock figures, follow me and be bland. He only cautioned us to to elevate those things to a magical level. Should we bring our traditions into our congregation? I do not think so.
@RedRonFJB
@RedRonFJB Ай бұрын
@@VictorianMaid99 BUT THINK ABOUT THIS...WE DO SOMETHING ONCE. IT IS GOOD AND PLEASING-WE THINK IT HONORS GOD. SO WE DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN SOON IT BECOMES A TRADITION.
@soundpreacher
@soundpreacher Ай бұрын
Much of what you said is correct. For example, all denominations are division, which is condemned (John 17:20-21, 1 Corinthians 1:10). However, there is a command to assemble together (Hebrews 10:25), and this was a practice of the early church (Acts 20:7). Without coming together in "corporate worship," how are we to sing and teach one another (Ephesians 5:19, Colossians 3:16)? While the Bible doesn't mention "church buildings," there must be a gathering place, whether it is in a home (Philemon 2) or another space large enough to meet (Acts 1:13). Some other "church things" that aren't in the Bible: * The Sinner's Prayer/Asking Jesus into your heart/"Faith only" * Salvation before baptism * Musical instruments in NT Worship *Tithing *One pastor over a congregation/a pastor and a preacher being the same position. We need to put aside all these unscriptural things; the only way we can be one is by going back to the Bible.
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed Ай бұрын
No, there is no command to assemble together. You are completely steeped in ignorance. Repent!
@soundpreacher
@soundpreacher Ай бұрын
@@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed Please explain how we are to carry out those commands without gathering together.
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed Ай бұрын
@@soundpreacher ,...You must first understand that in the days (first few years) of the new covenant when there was not a new testament/completed Bible, the only people who understood this whole new covenant were the apostles and the disciples of Jesus and the apostles. So, at that time these people who could, should get together to learn what this new covenant was and what to do and what not to do. The house of God is not a physical church where people gather, it is the whole spiritual body of Jesus that are all those who Jesus came to save that are scattered all across the plane of the earth from the time of Jesus until his return on judgement day. The phrase "assembling ourselves together" is referring to the spiritual gathering to the truth of Gods word by the actual Christians. All actual Christians gather around the truth of the Bible. In that day there were actual Christians that could physically gather at someone's home or some other public place to learn about the new covenant. When the apostles were no longer around and even before, those that came together went astray and began to hold to and believe all kinds of false doctrines. The physical church that went forth was not the gathering of believers (the ourselves of Hebrews 10-25), it was a false manmade antigod/antibible/antichrist gathering of those who went out from the apostles but were not of the apostles. As spoken of in1st John Ch.2-19 Hebrews Ch. 10, 21, "And having an high priest over the house of God; 22, Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. 23, Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) 24, And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25, Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." 1 John 2:19 KJV When the Bible was completed and the Holy Spirit poured out we no longer needed to gather together physically as we all now had the written word and the teaching of the Holy Spirit to guide us. Now all those Jesus came to save could gather together spiritually around the truth of the Bible. What the world knows as the church is a gathering of those Jesus did not come to save. The whole entire church is nothing more than a marketplace for the buying and selling of the Godless worlds counterfeit (antichrist) christianity. This is what Jesus referred to as the abomination of desolation. The church as a gathering of the unsaved, of the accursed of God, of the spiritually dead and blind is an abomination and all those snared into is have all been left desolate. When anyone goes into any church they are only gathering together with unbelievers, with the Godless people of the Godless world, with the accursed of God, with the spiritually dead and blind, with the vessels of wrath, and the brute beasts made only to be destroyed. The few actual Christians that exist have nothing whatsoever to do with anything known as or called the church. They are a spiritual gathering that is scattered all across the plane of the earth, one here, and one there. They come together around the actual truth of the Bible. If anyone has anything to do with anything known as the church, they are not a Christian, but are only everything that is opposed to God and to the truth of the Bible. They are all antichrist.
@paulsimpson3113
@paulsimpson3113 Ай бұрын
Read 1 Corinthians 5, it's not for us to give up meeting with other Christians but to ensure the godless people you mention are not among us. If God had intendend us to stop meeting together, he would have told us that rather than instruct us in the ways to do it correctly, as he does in many of the epistles.
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed Ай бұрын
@@paulsimpson3113 ,...Nowhere does the Bible tell the actual Christians to have or go to church. Church is an unbiblical manmade CONcept where the Godless unsaved accursed of God can extract money from and control the lost. Church is a gathering of the accursed of God, of the unsaved, of the spiritually dead and blind, of the vessels of wrath, and the brute beasts made only to be destroyed. It is a marketplace for the buying and selling of the Godless worlds counterfeit (antichrist) christianity. The only people who can buy and sell the antichrist christianity the apostate church sells are those God has marked with the Godless world (the beast). The church is the false prophet spoken of in Revelation Ch. 20. The entre church will be cast into the lake of fire when Jesus returns. The church (gathering) that the Bible speaks of is a spiritual gathering (church) that is made up of the few who Jesus came to save. They are a spiritual gathering not a physical one. They are scattered all across the plane of the earth, one here and one there. They are voices crying in the desert.
@Cornbread-gi6kt
@Cornbread-gi6kt Ай бұрын
In the early church people worshipped together in one another’s homes/houses. And from time to time the people who followed ‘The Way’(Christians) would sell their homes and take the money from the sell and give that money to the apostles who then distributed that money to those in need. Today, millions of people don’t have homes, and homes of their own, many are homeless living the best they can, and many of them are also Christians. In the biblical early church there were maybe a few thousand. The world has changed in over 2000 years. How people worship the Lord today considering many millions within the churches is wonderful and pleasing to God. Apostle Paul said; “ whatever their ambitions, as long as they’re preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ, then that’s what we are to our focus attend!”(Philippians 1:15-18). 🙏🏼
@papabear562
@papabear562 Ай бұрын
Yep, gotta pretty much agree on all points, especially the last two. Now that you got my interest, I would like to hear your views on tithing. I'm gonna look through your Youotube page but if there's nothing there, can you speak on that? I'd really like to hear your take. Thank you for this video.
@1Word2218
@1Word2218 Ай бұрын
I don’t see tithing in the New Testament church. I do see caring for the poor, widows, fellow saints, etc. Research shows that about 80% of money collected in churches goes to salaries, buildings and other administration. When Jesus says it is better to give than receive, I don’t think he meant give 80% to ourselves.
@papabear562
@papabear562 Ай бұрын
@@1Word2218 Thank you! Finally someone else who sees the same thing I do. I tried pastoring a small church once and when I mentioned about ditching the offering plate the looks they gave me, well, they weren't nice. 🙂
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