10 Facts To Identify A Real 1972 Camaro Z28

[@wyattoneable]

I was watching Paintucation when Kevin mentioned your channel and I was like "I wonder where he is"? And here you are. You made some good points on this episode. I hope you have more videos coming.

[@ronaldoleksy8264]

Same here

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Wyatt. Definitely more vids to come.

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Thanks for the shout out! You could definitely do the a/c the same way, vintage air did update their heater lines on the heater box so you will have to add an adapter instead of just cutting off the barbs. The new lines are much shorter. I do like retaining the factory parts when possible so if ever want to return to original it can be done. Good luck on your project

[@DoubleRRestorations]

@@VinylVillageGarage Thats great info. Thanks John!

[@RustyGlovebox]

You gave us a wealth of information on spotting a real Z28. Thanks Russ and glad to see you back

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Lloyd. Feels good to be back!

[@paintucation]

Hey Russ!!! Thanks for the links!!! And thank you very much for your kind words!!! I'm humbled. :) Very cool to be cross-promoting... one of the things I love about our community. Great info on this video!!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Hey Kevin. I appreciate you stopping by and for the kind words. Looking forward to the updates on your Camaro!

[@BustedClassicGarage]

Dude, it's so great to see you back on here! I can't wait for more vids!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Bart. Definitely more vids to follow!

[@jimwhalen6769]

Hey Russ! Glad you are back on Overkill!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Jim, me too!

[@raymondantonio4145]

Hey Russell , great to see you back, I don’t have a Camaro but I do appreciate the detail and the quality of your restorations, that’s really helped me on my projects. Thanks again for the video!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks for the kind words, Im glad the videos are helpful.

[@odahithedubious2017]

It's been way too long since I've seen you working on Overkill. What a great informational video, and what a great car Overkill is going to be. All the best to you and your family.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Its been a long time. I took some time off to work on Sam's Mustang. It feels good to be back on the Camaro

[@genokearney]

Yay! You're back! Please stay with us.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Definitely. I have alot more vids to come. Thanks

[@JohnnieBravo1]

Hey Russ! So glad to see you back on Overkill! It's been so long, I'd almost forgotten about it. I'll be looking forward to the new videos on it.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Its been a long time for sure. Its time to buckle down and finish the car.

[@MrMach1]

Always good when you have the real deal! Looking good my friend.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Gary. Good to see you.

[@joseph-v5c4c]

Man Thank you very Much for the the info, It made my day when I checked my r/s z28 project car and it hit all Ten of your points! My car also has the same steering wheel as the one in Dennis Video.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

@joseph-v5c4c Very nice! Thats great!

[@johnstonis7977]

Good to see you again. Hope all is well.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Hey, thanks

[@SuperDave21]

You've got a great little channel and some awesome projects. I just subbed and look forward to your builds!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thank you and thanks for subscribing. Should have some new vids coming out soon.

[@jeffallen3382]

MY uncle had a 73 Z28 that he bought new. It was around the early 80's that he sold it. It was red with black SS stripes and white Z28 rims with white side pipes he added. I loved that car! I was heartbroken when I heard he had sold it!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

I remember the side pipes back in the day. There was a vette here in town that had them. I always liked them. As a kid, you knew the car was fast if it had them. Lol

[@greghamilton1638]

1969 in my favorite year! 1969 Z28

[@DarrylzssDarrylG]

Hi Russ. Good to see you back. Great video and information.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thank you Darryl.

[@mgcarr61camaro91]

Thanks for the info on the 72 Z28 's 👍👍🇨🇦🇺🇸

[@DoubleRRestorations]

You bet! Thanks for watching!

[@raymondcollyear4773]

Thank you for sharing those tips. I know there are alot of guy's out there who are just out to make a quick buck and screw people who don't know where to look for signs to know if it's the real deal are a fake . So hopefully they see this and learn were to look and find the true nature of the car

[@DoubleRRestorations]

I hope it helps. I think it fun to learn the details of these cars with all their changes over the different years as well.

[@asicerik]

Russ! Good to see you buddy! Great video. I did not know they made so few of those.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Hey Erik. I didnt either. When I first found the car, I just wanted it because it was a 70-73 car. Then the more I learned about it, I was really surprised.

[@JIMFED63]

It’s been awhile glad you’re back on and hopefully more Camaro videos !

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Definitely more vids to come!

[@JIMFED63]

@@DoubleRRestorations I ended up selling my 81 Z28 4 speed car and I bought a 2023 ZL1 convertible !

[@DoubleRRestorations]

​@JIMFED63 I have never owned a 6th gen, but they have to be a blast to drive!

[@JIMFED63]

@@DoubleRRestorations it’s scary fast and it’s incredible to drive. Street legal race car 😊

[@Z06Doug]

Thanks for the info! A couple of things I haven't looked at. I happen to have a few Camaro's. 1969 z/ rs clone, real 1971, 1972, 1974 , 1979's, and 1981's real z/28's. Most of which I've owned since the early 80's. Growing up. I was disappointed when GM quit selling the z cars in 1975 and 1976, and was just lucky that friends had nice cars they wanted to sell. Also have 1975 and 1976 LT-1 Camaro's, plus a 89 tpi 350 IROC, some 93, 95 and 99 z/28s. They are not Collins type 1 owners, but I knew the owners that bought them fairly new, so about the 3rd or 4 owner. They were and still are drivers that I have tried my best to keep as original as possible. Changed the rear bumper on the 72 for a cleaner bumper, but kept the original and will get it fixed and restored now that I know this is more important than I realized.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Yea things got a little weird in 75. I was glad to see the z28 return in 77. We also have a 94 that we bought slighty used with 13k miles. Fun car for sure!

[@559043]

great to see new videos on Overkill. I told you a little bit about my 3rd gen Firebird a while back. Someone before me started cloning it to be a Formula. I'm ok with it. I mean I wish it was authentic. I did own an authentic 1977 Formula back in the 90's. Man, I loved that car I just owned it at the wrong time of my life. Wish I had it now. My current clone is 1987

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Ive always been partial to the 87 models. Had a 1987 as my first Camaro

[@ceedell]

Good video Russ!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Wendell!

[@209jjones]

My 72 Z28 is almost complete. I can't wait

[@Motown454]

Russ, Great video!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Wayne!

[@andersonrowland]

Looking forward to the Camaro content!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thank you.

[@ParadiseBayCustoms]

Fine job! 👍

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Co-SS]

WOW new video on camaro???? Loving it

[@DoubleRRestorations]

More to come!

[@perrywe1]

glad to see you back on youtube Russ!! I will check out the garbage Camaro. Jubee has done one of those conversions at the installation center.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Wes, hopefully I can catch a Tech Talk Live soon. Ive been missing everyone.

[@markkalkwarf4520]

Can't wait for new video. I am building a 70 camaro.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks and thanks for watching.

[@MrFireman164]

Great info my camaro is definitely not a z28, I use to wish it was a true ss but i think that ship has sailed as well. Good to see you Russ!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Hey Roger, good to see you too! Your Camaro is awesome!

[@TheShadeTreeFixitMan]

NIce to see you back. Good information for the purists.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks George!

[@thud9797]

Awesome vid, here's all the engine VIN codes for 1972, 5th digit of VIN.. D - 250 six F - 307 H - 350 2bbl K - 350 4bbl (SS) L - 350 LT-1 (Z28) U - 396 (402) SS

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thank you & and thanks for sharing!

[@The88katana600]

Yo yo. Good to see you my friend

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Hey hey! You too!

[@jeffdschaak3868]

I'm working on a '73 RS with AC, going to use a AC delete fiberglass box. One missing piece I need is the '73 only brace for the split bumper at the bottom. Getting close!

[@DoubleRRestorations]

The 73 only braces are tough to find. They do come up for sale every now and then.

[@JimSampson-y6v]

Kinda interesting... I've never seen any Van Nuys z28's with the vin stamp on firewall ... the one behind and below the heater box. Think only Norwood did that. Same with Chevelle's and El Camino's built in Van Nuys.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

My Camaro is a Norwood car. Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[@johnmilner7603]

Looking forward to seeing more work done on the ‘72 Z28…..COPO from NastyZ28.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks Copo. I appreciate it! Going to finally skin those doors.

[@rossdean1997]

I do not know about the 72 model but my 71 Z28 (real one) has the gas pedal hinged off of the floor. This is shown in the last few pages of the assembly manual. Also, the standard Z28 rear axle ratio was 3.73 to 1. Others could be had. My brother's 1970 (bought new) had a 4.10. A good source of info is the GM Heritage Center web site. They have information packages on most old GM cars.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Ill have to check out that website. Thanks. Im pretty sure the floor mounted gas pedal did end in the 71Z's

[@johnleinen7167]

Nice resto! are you keeping the low compression and egr and air injection that 72s had?

[@DoubleRRestorations]

So the bad part about my car, is that Im missing the original engine. I haven't given up on finding it, but its not likely. Im still not sure if Ill build a period correct engine, or if I will my 383 stroker I built.

[@rctopfueler2841]

How did my 73 ralley sport have round eyes up high and half bumpers with enduro extend grille ? Werent those the issue bumpers,?

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thats a great question. Im actually working on a follow up vid to this one and thats one of the topics we will be covering.

[@DavidB7474]

I’ve been on Nasty Z28 since the 90’s, was even around for the great reset when the site had to be redone. And the info identifying real Z28’s is great. Mine are all 74 models. It’s a shame we have a problem with so many cars that are clones or people that try to sell as legit Z28 models that are fake. Facebook pages have many posts of people swapping vins and don’t know the law. And not everyone cares. That’s just bad for all buyers.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

I joined nastyZ in 2002. Its been a great resource and Ive learned alot there and made alot of friends there too. Ive always liked the 74 models as well.

[@9Apilot]

Dad has a Mulsanne blue‘72 Z28 RS with the original vinyl roof and an M22.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

One of my favorite colors and an m22, sweet!

[@9Apilot]

@@DoubleRRestorations My dad was a young 1st lieutenant in the Air Force and had originally ordered a ‘72 Z28 but it was one of the ones on the assembly line but never finished. He was able to track down another one. Thats the one he still has now. It has around 60k on the odometer since it started out a daily but didn’t stay that way for long. The original engine didn’t make it due to water leaking into the cylinders and he replaced it with a 406 a long time ago. The car made a huge impression on me growing up. The car was repainted “show quality” back in the 80s and would compete in ISCA indoor shows. He’s a vette guy now and the car is just a garage queen under a car cover now. He says I can come get it whenever I’m ready.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

​@9Apilot Thats an awesome car to have and to know its complete history

[@thruitallauto2538]

Waiting on ya to come back, been a subscriber for yrs, my 73 has air condition, an the stripes , but no z28 badges,

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Nice! Feels good to be making videos again.

[@thruitallauto2538]

@@DoubleRRestorations yeah I’m getting ready to start building mine on my channel,after i get my grandson’s s10 done , have done some of it, but had to quit to work on his truck

[@friguy4444]

7:56 I don't understand what having high compression has to do with if they got air con or not. I have a car with 11.5 to 1 comp and air con in it. /Mind you it's a much newer car. 2002. But Weird.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

I think it had something to do with the idle drag, and the compressor back then couldn't handle the wot, these engines were capable of producing

[@jeffdschaak3868]

Welcome back, bet you been busy, right?

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Been super busy with Sam's Mustang. Its been a fun project working with her on it.

[@fasst5511]

The 72 Camaros were built in both Norwood Ohio and Van Nuys California. It is my understanding that only the Norwood cars got the Z28 on the trim tag as also the SS cars got the Z27 on the trim tag.The Van Nuys cars did not. It will also have NOR on the trim tag if it was built in Norwood. I have an original 72 SS Camaro with NOR and Z27 on the trim tag. And GM would never put A/C on a solid lifter engine equipped car with the exception of a few LT1 Vettes that got built on special orders. I worked for a guy back in 72 that bought one of those Vettes, LT1 with A/C. new.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

The first car I looked at proir to buying OverKill was another 72, it had z28 badges, but the trim tag had z27 on it. Guy told me that it was a z28/SS. Lol. A good friend of mine owns the car now. He plans to put the SS badges back on the car. My car is a Norwood car. Ill have to do some research on the Van Nuys Cars. Great comment. Thanks.

[@DiscoBiscuit21]

Of the 2575 made, 15,482 are still around today.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Lol, Now thats funny right there.

[@buckdusty]

Do you have any idea how much we've missed you? Welcome back 🎉

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thank you!

[@mr4speed]

How you doing Russ? Been awhile since I seen that Z28

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Hey Mr4speed. Im doing well. Hope you are too. Its time to get the project finished up. Lol

[@mr4speed]

@@DoubleRRestorations sounds good I'll be watching

[@kennethbrown5784]

They have electric ac compressors and you can hide the lines and compressor in the fender

[@DoubleRRestorations]

I did not know they made electric ones. Thanks. That's my plan for the vintage air setup, to hide the lines inside the fender. Hopefully, it works well. I have a lot of metal work ahead of me first.

[@rossdean1997]

A follow up to the below. If it is an automatic car and has the original transmission, it will have a TH400

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Thanks, Mine is a th400 car.

[@RoyalTDynoman]

my 72 z28 had z28 right on the cowl tag it was a 4 spd car with 4.10 gears and manual steering i purchased it from the original owner and was sold new at courtesy chevrolet in medford ore it was red with black stripes it might be noted that these 2500 cars did not pass the epa emission standards for that year but from what i understand 2500 cars were already sold to the public the others that had not been sold were destroyed because of the strike there was no retrofit available and could not be sold the days of factory holly carbs and solid lifter cams will never be seen again how sad

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Yes. Very sad indeed. Thanks for the comment. Mine also has the 4.10 gears too.

[@Charger1908]

Weren’t only 1970 and a half the only ones to have the split bumper?

[@DoubleRRestorations]

1970-73's could have the split bumpers. Thanks.

[@eagz2898]

You a member on nastyZ?

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Yes, same name as my KZbin channel.

[@jmark7390]

I guess 1973 Z28s were the first ones that had positive identification in their VIN.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

In 1972 it would have an L as the 5th digit for the Z28.

[@jmark7390]

@@DoubleRRestorations after all these years I didnt know that. I thought the first year the Vin verified the z28 was 73. Thanks

[@captnron59]

Yours has the wrong front bumper. Split bumper was only on the regular Camaro. Z28 and SS and RS had the full bumper.

[@jonathanduran1773]

You could order a Z28With the RS package My car is completely original Never touched

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Im working on a follow up vid, we will discuss the RS package and how it relates to the z28 and the ss

[@charlesgreer7245]

I had a monza in high-school for a short time. It was a 2+2 with i think it was a 262 v8 i might be wrong bc honestly, im a Ford guy who likes and has owned a few chevys, an 89 iroc, and that monza A true car guy can appreciate a good thing from the other brands. But i know it was less than 300 cubic inch v8 .they have all had their wins, and they have all had their loses. So, to point out the bad when your shit talking is stupid bc they have all had bad motors, ugly looks, and cheap made crap at one point or the other. The 72 camero is my favorite with 3rd gen right behind that. I also was born in 72. When i was a teen, my dad almost bought a 72 z28 for me. It was a friend of mines dad's car. He was in prison and it was parked behind his grandparents' house. I saw the car and asked the deal? I showed it to my dad b4 we left. The only thing missing was the side pieces of the rear deck spoiler. The car had the believe it was called LT 1 with the factory aluminum intake and holley 4 barrel. Had the 4 speed. It had the z stripes. His grand pa agreed to sell it to us for 500 it ran when parked kinda deal. Anyway, the car was from Utah, and when we were looking at the car, my dad noticed the trunk pan was rusted out. Pops got scared the whole car was rusted from road salt, even though the engine alone was worth more than that, at the time we didnt have 500 extra laying around to buy a car for the engine so he backed out. The friends uncle bought it from the grandpa and got it running. After we moved away from there, my girlfriends dad, who was a camero guy told my dad and i that the second-generation cars were notoriuos for trunk rust. So very likely that z was fine and we could have just replaced trunk and been good. Story of my life back then day late dollar short.

[@DoubleRRestorations]

We have all had those that got away from us. My first car I looked at, was a 77 Mustang Cobra. It had the snake on the fender. A lady I worked with was selling it for 1k. I had the money, but was only 16 and dad said no. I think he was afraid I would get hurt. I really wanted that car.

[@jonathanduran1773]

I have 72 Z28. The car was factory black You're gonna say but in 72 Chevrolet Did not paint Any Camaros black Mine has 2 dashes wear the paint code should be Which denotes special paint The production date was the last week before the Norwood strike. It Is also A factory 4 speed With 12 bolt rear end. The 12 bolt rear end Which is correct for the car I was always told And from what I've read72You could not order 1With that rear end It also has white stripes The cars never been painted The lacquer is cracking all over The stripes Have over spray in the corners You can tell they just slap them on there When I took the door panels off There was 2 beer cans In the doors I was told That the union workers Not happy And they did sabotage some of these cars Pretty strange

[@danielmichaels2553]

Hi, have you checked the numbers on that rear end? I'm curious about a 12 bolt in a 72.

[@jonathanduran1773]

@@danielmichaels2553 yes they match the transmission numbers the rear end numbers the motor numbers the body numbers

[@jonathanduran1773]

By the way the car was The 1st week of April The union worker strike Started April 7The car has a lot of Options Z22 package Which I believe is the rally sport package Which it does have It's all documented. What alerted me to the whole situation was the paint code Being 2 dashes instead of a paint code then I researched and found that in 72 they didn't offer black This car is definitely This car is definitely Came from the factory black With white stripes

[@DoubleRRestorations]

@@jonathanduran1773 Thats really neat about the dashes for the special paint code. I haven't never seen one like that, but I learn something new about these cars all the time. The dx3 option really surprised me on my car. The more I think about it, Ill probably leave the stripes off. The 12 bolt was in the 1970 year, but my 72 has a 10 bolt. Sounds like you have a very unique car. Thanks for sharing.

[@jonathanduran1773]

@@DoubleRRestorations the story on the car was that it was built for a GM executive I do have a partial build sheet not enough of it to see the destination

[@terrypikaart4394]

Im building a 68 and it is suppose to be a rs ss big block car. I guess with a 68 there is no real way to prove or disprove the validity..

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Honestly on the first gens, Im not sure. Im sure there are some ways to prove what it is, Im just not sure what they are.

[@kennethbrown5784]

I friend of my said he owned a 72 z28 we all knew it was not because of the ac

[@DoubleRRestorations]

Lol, yep for sure.

[@thomasseliger2982]

Blah blah blah bla

[@jeffallen3382]

Figured I'd see no videos of your Z28 on your page...