10 TIPS & TRICKS For Advanced Combat JAGGED ALLIANCE 3 Guide

[@uranderson]

Use Take Cover and Sneak in combat together. Take Cover transfers up to 5 action points into your next turn. It costs 4 to initiate and you need to be in cover. So optimal to use when you have 9 AP. If you break line of sight with the enemy you can re-enter stealth for only 2 AP. This also puts you into crouch automatically. So you can run somewhere and as long as you have 2 AP left you will enter stealth and crouch. Lots of uses for these two abilities together. For example I use Buns early game as a sniper with some other mercs hidden in front of her in overwatch with assault rifles. After combat opens (usually with a shot from Buns) I will hide her and then take cover. The next turn I will have 5 extra AP so enough to take a shot then move her to break line of sight and re-enter stealth. The enemy knows she's there but can't shoot at her until they get close enough so they advance blindly into the overwatch cones of my hidden assault rifle mercs.

[@James-xu2dc]

Nice strat, its these details that make the gameplay so adaptable

[@kr00m]

Just into it. Thanks for the info!

[@PrimarchX]

Modern suppressors have no effect on accuracy. You may see a difference in point of impact between having a suppressor mounted or dismounted, however.

[@cellobass6195]

I think the myth comes from games, where having a suppressor usually gives such an advantage that it has to have a trade-off.

[@InternetStudiesGuy]

Realistically: Most suppressors simply wouldn't do anything in the game, because all bullets in the game are supersonic, with the possible exception of the MP5Ks, and the subsonic 9mm bullets. Supersonic bullets cause a loud sonic boom. Most rifle suppressors are also far too small to be "silent", they would help with hearing protection for the user, but still be pretty damn loud even if you disregard the problem of the sonic boom. To use actually silenced firearms you would have to use specialized guns and ammunition, which mean those weapons have not only much reduced range, but also power. Suppressors are a good idea for hearing protection, but to be stealthy and get the "fwup" instead of the bang, you need to go to great lengths that impair the basic functionality of the gun, not just put a spray can at the end of the barrel.

[@PrimarchX]

@@InternetStudiesGuy When used with supersonic ammo, suppressors are handy for limiting the weapon's report, acting as a muzzle break and significantly reducing the muzzle flash. When being shot at you will hear the supersonic crack but probably not the sound of the cartridge discharge. This makes locating the source of fire challenging, especially at longer ranges.

[@pultsari9036]

​@@PrimarchX Second that. This is exactly why modern sniper rifles are often equipped with a suppressor, despite the ~Mach3 muzzle velocity. While it isn't silent it's still not as loud as when unsuppressed, hides the muzzle flame, and can do as good a job in reducing recoil as a muzzle brake. Still, I have once had the opportunity to try a suppressed Uzi loaded with subsonic ammo and damn it was ghastly. The loudest sound I heard while firing bursts was the slight sound of the bolt racing back and forth.

[@matts5247]

Well in tv films and games it is usually implied that they are firing subsonic rounds. And those certainly will affect things. Although not accuracy per se unless it’s at long distance. Because subsonic rounds fire under the speed of sound to get rid of the sonic snap that is heard when normal rounds are fired So it will make the round have less range and less stopping power.

[@dicecylinder]

Suppressors IRL have negligible or no effect on accuracy or anything else. In fact, the only real drawbacks to using a good, modern suppressor (additional length & bulk) are so small compared to their immense benefits that the entirety of US Marine Corps is now planning to equip every single marine in with a suppressed weapon - all riflemen, machine-gunners shooting full-auto, etc. The only reason suppressors are shown to have any major drawbacks is Hollywood genre cliches and traditional arcadey videogame approach to balance. Of course real rifle suppressors can't make rifles nearly this quiet either, they don't even make them hearing-safe. The point is to make the shooter harder to precisely and quickly locate in the middle of a raging battle. You need special pistols like Hi-Standard .22 or PSS Vul chambered in pathetic tiny subsonic pistol cartridges, to have the Hollywood suppressor effect; worthless in battle but you could headshot a sentry during a thunderstorm and his buddies 50 yards away probably won't recognize it before you're upon them. Also, "improvised suppressors" (like the one from a plastic bottle in Max Payne 3) are worthless. They'll reduce the first shot noise by maybe 20 dB (still not hearing safe), as they blow up into shrapnel. You indeed need a steel pipe (and some machine-tools) to make one, it's not hard at all even for a novice metalworker but obviously super illegal in many countries.

[@scottycheesecake]

Most people don't know what a full power rifle sounds or feels like so they don't realize how hard it would be to make them actually "silent".

[@dicecylinder]

@@scottycheesecake They sound like "eeeee"

[@zanaduz2018]

The loudest part of most rifle shots (that pass at "near miss" range to the target, assuming the target is the point listening) is generally the sonic boom (audible as a "crack") of the bullet. A suppressor does not and cannot remove this sonic boom unless it manages to slow the round down to under the speed of sound (at which point it'd be better to be firing subsonic ammunition anyways).

[@PrimarchX]

If you have Grunty, be sure to give him a silenced weapon because he takes a single shot at the start of combat!

[@Ugnutz]

I gave him a Silenced M24 i found

[@ModernBarbarian187]

I have to put a suppressor on his machine gun. He's as annoying as I remember.

[@matts5247]

I hate how the guns in this game don’t have stats you can compete and stuff. It makes it very difficult to know whether a new gun is better or not when all you have to compare is the capacity the ammo type and the damage. But there is many more factors than that with accuracy being one of the most important which the game has no way of telling you other than like a couple lines of written information saying the generalized pros and cons

[@madrooky1398]

Not sure how accurate this is but I heard that some suppressors actually have the effect of a longer barrel, more accuracy and range. I mean it makes sense to me. In video games its a measure of balancing to have a negative effect, like in MGS, but IRLsuppressors certainly don't wear out any faster than a barrel. They may overheat and deform, but that's a different issue...

[@andbelov]

Suppression effect decreases enemy (or your merc) AP by 4 next turn.

[@fcukugimmeausername]

Your tips are life saving.

[@Mac-po1sr]

Suppressors don't remove accuracy. If anything they might increases accuracy but lower bullet velocity due to being an extension on the barrel length. However it would be a very, VERY small change either way.

[@Liikavarvas2]

Extending barrel length improves bullet velocity. The gases from the gunpowder have more time to propel the projectile. Also suppressors increase precision because they lower recoil and reduce barrel vibrations due to the added weight at the end of the barrel. The myth of lower velocity comes from subsonic rounds, which indeed are much slower and produce very little sound when fired. I use a suppressor on my hunting rifle and it does reduce noise drastically even with supersonic loads.

[@rDunfee]

Lots of great info here!

[@ElMachoMucho]

The whole suppressors making your weapon fire the bullet slower or less accurate is a video game myth IRL the only thing it does is make your weapon more dirty while using it

[@timid12]

It would be nice if you could go through a firefight and explain your tactics and decision making as you go through it. It's nice to get general information like this but I think a demonstration would be more helpful

[@Ic0nGaming]

I'm actually working on something like this as well! It's just easier to give small bulletpoints before giving a full explanation with all the details. But it's in the making =)

[@user-ve5ei2xe8h]

Suppressors should not lower your accuracy. They would even lower felt recoil. Subsonic ammunition on the other hand does come with a much steeper ballistic curve and would be less accurate over longer distances.

[@mazdrpan4099]

Mobility and flanking is king in this game. Having perk to increase dmg to flanked targets to 35% and a couple high agility mercs with Fast Runner and Frogleaping will change the way you play and is a lot more fun than sniping away from stealth. Overwatch gives you more attacks on paper, but when you realize none of those shots are aimed, you dont get as much hits as you would if you used Take Cover instead and saved AP for a more effective turn. Also enemies will get closer if they cant hit you effectively while you are in cover, which makes them even easier to hit. Overwatch is only good with a specialized weapon, like AK-47 with recoil booster, light stock and bipod mods, and at short to medium range only.

[@Ic0nGaming]

Quality advice!

[@user-ic8ln8fq8h]

You are wrong and right at the same time. Overwatch is supposed to be used on targets that are changing their locations and currently not in cover and in clear line of sight. Accuracy doesn't matter in that case. But some of the guns supports sight mods that grant medium bonus to accuracy during OW. Perfect example of utilizing that mechanic is next: you flank or catch your enemy in plain field, then you go for a leg shot and initialize OW. Bots are bound to get at least one good burst from that, combine that with low cost attacks and you get devastating combo. But the most efficient way to play with it is ofc to assign few mercs to overwatch - 2 or 3 guys with AR's will do a juicy job, it's rather for combined merc's efforts i would say, than for one soldier

[@ludekselepa8761]

Nice video, good info, looking forward to watch more. (Ideally deep stelth guide and conclusion if its even worth it) thank you. :)

[@erikholum4772]

My only gripe with this game so far is the lack of ammo. I understand the need to use different weapon types for different situations. But I really just want to mainly use AKs and Snipers. I just NEVER have any ammo.

[@Ic0nGaming]

Collect Gunpowder and craft that stuff you need ;)

[@erikholum4772]

@@Ic0nGaming I did a quick google and couldn't find the info. But where do you get gunpowder?

[@Ic0nGaming]

@@erikholum4772 Gunpowder is a relatively rare loot in various locations. It's like Pipes, Lenses and Chips a rare component

[@8wayz2shine]

@@erikholum4772 You can also disassemble explosives like Pipe bombs, TNT, C4 and the like with wire cutters. Just right click on them, select Combine and then pick the wire cutters. The end product will be some gunpowder. You can also buy 60 rounds of 7,62x39 mm WP Hollow Point in the Fleatown Market (H9) every day or two. They respawn quite fast. Between those two you should have plenty of 7,62 WP ammo to go around.

[@jasosik]

easiest way to get ammo - is to pick from enemys. dismantle AK - to get ak ammo, and so on

[@Whimpy13]

How about going prone with your frontline units after taking your first shot insted of taking a worse, second shot forcing the enemy to close in insted of shooting?

[@Carnefice]

Suppressors can change the point of impact but they dont reduce accuracy. Just have to adjust your optic or sights for it.

[@deepqantas]

Make sure you don't overwatch everyone when doing the alpha strike from stealth. You want someone with action points (and grenades) to fix the situation when the enemies scatter in unexpected directions.

[@cragnamorra]

lol I learned this one the hard way...and had to "re-learn" it more times than a person of average intelligence probably should have needed to.

[@gichuck69]

Not accuracy but maybe a point or two on damage. This makes you leverage silent and ambush and maxin' damage... what to do what to do

[@RH-of5cr]

JA3 is an awesome game.

[@derheadbanger9039]

Supression lowers the AP on the next turn.

[@ww3032]

This game is harder than I expected. Modern games like Diablo 4 have rot my brain.

[@cragnamorra]

What I've found is that it's indeed pretty challenging at first, even on First Blood difficulty. The mercs, weapons, ammo, etc all suck. Wounds are frequent, downed (or dead) mercs are common. Missed shots, etc. But then once the mercs get to around level 4/5 or so (which happens fairly quickly), and get some good perks (there's a couple which are just outright OP), some better weapons, and have improved some key stats (most notably MRK/DEX for firearms characters, which is probably most of team), then most fights get pretty trivialized. And I'm not talking about "high-end" gear like the best AR's, sniper rifles, and such. "Mid-grade" stuff like Dragunov snipers and M-14 assault rifles become routinely accessible pretty early in a playthrough. With proper modifications, these are pretty potent weapons which could probably serve very well all the way through if needed. I guess my point is that the typical "power creep" of such games here isn't really "creep"...it's more like an early-mid game "flicking a light switch" moment where almost overnight the characters transform from bums into monsters. At least the perception I have after four playthroughs (I'll admit I haven't tried Mission Impossible difficulty yet).

[@legitimatehumanbeing8746]

They should not.

[@fixpontt]

the entire silent/stealth kill (but really the stealth mechanics in general) in this game is absolutely terrible, it feels like an afterthought, bad design bad execution, i finished Desperados 3 before started playing this and that game felt sooooo good in this whole stealth killing, i dont understand why cant i carry/hide dead bodies in this game, why isn't meele an automatic hit with 100% killing chances from stealth (ranged should be based on percentage but not meele), why time does not stop when i aim and try to figure out what body part i want to attack this game has good ideas and good setup but terrible fighting mechanics

[@Insanevizir]

agree 100%

[@user-mv2pr6fl8x]

You can aim long before you close to the target. Then you click and merc will go closer and execute strike automatically.

[@cragnamorra]

I 100% agreed with your take for melee stealth. Until I figured out how the Prepare Takedown mechanic works (wasn't until my second or third playthrough). Not saying the system is 100% perfect by any means (still fully agree that moving/hiding a dead body should definitely be included). But it did get a lot less frustrating after that.

[@Farencio]

or you hire Dr. Q or the dude that can sneak and run at the same time. Dr. Q can incapacite an enemy indefinitely and in 2 turns deal with it. This game normally deals stealth like picking micro fights where your enemies are surprised/suppressed and deal with them quickly. By that reasoning Dr. Q was my Stealth/melee/Dr 2/3 of the game because he could incapacite one dude and them possibly kill the other like no deal with his bare hands. With bare hands you also can hit the throat and that would choke the enemies and they wouldn't call backups.

[@Webdragon666]

a

[@user-ic8ln8fq8h]

bullet sponges lmao

[@tagesvaterpatrick8780]

#suppressors vs accuracy: In reality a suppressor does not directly mess with the accuracy BUT a suppressor of any kind always will slow down the bullet and therefor the projectile will lose not only speed and range but power (to penetrate)!😊

[@Carnefice]

No, they don't do those things either. Suppressed rounds are just as fast as unsuppressed.