10 TV Shows That Ruined Other TV Shows

[@FiliusFidelis]

No, Game of Thrones didn't "ruin" Wheel of Time or Rings of Power, they were abysmally BAD shows that pissed on the graves of their original creators.

[@jcehlert]

At least they aren't as bad as The Sword of Truth series.

[@bryanslick8704]

The Rings of Power is a very good show which has been review-bombed by an extremely loud and self-righteous MINORITY.

[@brotherbeat6541]

​@@bryanslick8704if only that was true.

[@JasonJones-og2ft]

I came to say the same thing

[@AndyBarkerBee]

Yes, this. Couldn’t agree more with FiliusFidelis 🎉

[@grubelli]

A good series of a certain genre does not "ruin" other series of that genre.

[@Sellswordking]

I mean, Mike Flanagan pretty demonstrably proves that wrong by virtue of going “No, *this* is how you do it”, but then again a dead slug could produce better art than Ryan Murphy so grain of salt I guess

[@LuvtheJEm]

Agreed. What ruins them is studio greed. They want to copy another network's successful show without putting in the time and effort to get it right. If it's well written, acted and directed/produced, it's not going to be ruined.

[@calcutlass]

No need to play obtuse, you know what they're saying.

[@taejasper1343]

I mean, sometimes it can, like Lost had huge popularity and success, that basically everyone else in Hollywood now wanted their own similar signature mystery series like it! And so, it did kinda ruin the mystery genre a bit after it influence everyone else after it! Bro, it's pretty evident if you see any new mystery series coming out now, at least most of them, they have some similarities that have been at least partially influenced by Lost in some way, and it's pretty noticable, too!

[@taejasper1343]

​@@LuvtheJEmYeah, but not always, bro! Sometimes it's the writing/quality of the story itself and it can feel rushed if the ending, as well as the entire series, isn't paced right! So you have to be careful and cautious when you try to live to the hype and success of that incredible series' success in its first two seasons!

[@jacobcardona2457]

Y'all have an entire channel dedicated to Star Trek so idk about The Expanse really ruining the new shows

[@KWard120]

Watching Star Trek now, just makes one want to go back and rewatch the Expanse or pick up the books 📚

[@mischarowe]

Yeah I think it's more like The Expanse showed us just how much better others CAN be.

[@mischarowe]

@@KWard120 I need to get started on the books. I have the first lol.📚

[@danii7584]

yeh, technically it's a different subgenre so it doesn't kill classic scifi. later star trek simply is badly written.

[@xriiwx6658]

you can't compare 11 season of TWD to eight episodes of TLOU , keep in mind that earlier sesaon of TWD were PEAK tv

[@zoyadulzura7490]

Yes. The first couple seasons of TWD (at least) had great character development and storytelling.

[@figdestroyer]

I get the GoT comparison to LOTR and WoT. But I don’t believe it ruined the latter two, the vibe and quality of acting ruined those shows.

[@Just_Pele]

Wokeness killed LOTR and WoT.

[@DarkestVoid]

@@Just_Pelebet everything now is “WoKe” in your eyes huh? Lmfao 🤡

[@spydermag5644]

Also making up 💩 killed it for the true fans.

[@Miller54K]

They absolutely destroyed the source material of LOTR. Completely disrespected Tolkien and fans. Another show where "we don't want the fans of the source material, we want to go after the 'modern audience'" that doesn't exist.

[@zachrion]

That and Rings of Power contradicted the original literature

[@rijrunner]

Game of Thrones ruined the last 3 seasons of Game of Thrones

[@Chrissykat24]

One might say that the two show-runners ruined the last 3 seasons by rushing and forgetting important character arcs and plot points.

[@blackdragon6]

You mean the last 4 seasons 😉

[@caronstout354]

D&D ruins the last 3 seasons of GoT by trying, and failing, to continuing the storylines without coherent source material ( The books stopped at S5).

[@danii7584]

@@caronstout354 apparently netflix picked up dumb&dumber and while they did nothing meaningful most of the time they apparently get to adapt the three body problem now.

[@danii7584]

the pace definitely ruined the last few seasons, as well as other some questionable things, but one has to keep in mind that dear old george roughtly told them how the book are supposed to end, so now that the bad reception of the ending has happened george refuses to end the books, because it's probably too close to what he planned to write.

[@Sticks_of_Truth]

I would say that most of the shows that you've mentioned were ruined because they were just created poorly and not because some other show came before it.

[@FrakkinToasterLuvva]

or after it

[@Sticks_of_Truth]

@@FrakkinToasterLuvva I realized I didn't cover that in the context of my comment but I didn't feel like editing it because the point was the same.

[@jyveturkey1894]

Rings and wheel suck all on their own and need no help from anyone or anything to suck.

[@mischarowe]

Silver lining: there is still hope for WoT. Since season 2 was objectively better than season 1.

[@mischarowe]

@@danii7584 Little confusion here: I was talking about Wheel of Time. I mis-typed. I'll edit that now.

[@WackyW3irdo]

The first season of Last of US can't even hold a candle to the first 6 seasons of Walking Dead. TLOU was disappointing and that's coming from a huge fan of the games.

[@charliechristian8177]

Thank you! I have watched both and I could easily rewatch the entirety of the walking dead even it's shaky seasons but the last of us just fell flat for me, especially compared to the game.

[@Erichev]

I think those of us that enjoyed the game watched it and wondered why they left so much out. I felt like it was rushed to get to Game 2 and the lesbian relationship. We all know that the gay guy episode wasn't part of the game at all, but it was well acted. It just didn't belong. I know I mentioned 2 LGB groups here, but I don't think either statement was untrue. And it, for me had nothing to do with their sexual preference, but pushing "Wokeness" into the media.

[@charliechristian8177]

@@Erichev I'm ngl like I'm gay but like I thought the storyline was sweet but was confused when they said there wasn't enough time go fit everything in, but they had enough time to do a entire episode on a storyline we didn't neccaserily need

[@blackdragon6]

​@charliechristian8177 I don't understand this, what was left out?

[@charliechristian8177]

@@blackdragon6 some really iconoc scenes, like walking through bills trapper out town, or Ellie and the cannibals fighting infected at the mill ect

[@FleetwoodTheProfit]

I like The Last of Us, but calm down it's only been 1 season. IF it lasts as long as the Walking Dead, then we'll judge.

[@ohcrap2222]

The next season will not be liked.... they are pushing harder on bad aspects of the game and people will not like it.

[@poincianab12]

Most valid an accurate comment

[@FleetwoodTheProfit]

Yep. I like it, darn good show but it's not put in the work to say it ruined TWD.

[@tsrgoinc]

The Last of Us is complete shite, that shat all over its source material! A mix of wooden and or over the top acting, poor re-characterisations of beloved characters and embarrassing subplot lines written to drive the narrative made me really appreciate just how much I under appreciated the LOU part 2. The series is utter drivel.

[@dannyevans1235]

The last of us did not ruin twd. Yeah twd did slow down by the end but the prime of it is head and shoulders above the last of us. That was a borefest.

[@dwightyboy5324]

People forget how great TWD was for it's first 5 seasons and how genuinely popular the show was. The Last Of Us show I think is a bit overrated tbh, doesn't go anywhere near peak TWD

[@brynellsidney3983]

Thanks for showing The Wire some much deserved love....

[@DonnieHanby]

"Lost ruined other mystery shows" - Fair. They had to live down that horrible too long show. "Game of Thrones ruined Wheel of Time and Rings of Power" - No, they ruined themselves "Expanse ruined modern Star Trek Shows" - No, they ruined themselves. Except for Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds. Those two are fantastic. "Haunting of Hill House ruined American Horror Story" - Fair. "Succession ruined Billions" - No, the studio running that show for too long did it. Not Succession. "Andor ruined every other Star Wars show" - No. Again, they ruined themselves. "The Wire ruined every cop show" - That one is fair. No one could live up to that. "Daredevil ruined the Arrowverse" - Again...it ruined itself. "Last of US ruined Walking Dead" - No. The Walking Dead got oversaturated. And TLoU does not deserve all the praise it got. My hill that I will die on is that journalists who have no idea what a good game is gave TLoU too much credit and then it just sort of caught on and has stunk up the joint since. Neither show is intrinsically better than the other one. It is just that TLoU is the new hotness which I wish would just go away. "South Park ruined Family Guy" - Seriously? Both shows are on their own comedic wavelengths. This whole listicle is just personal opinions. It is like you guys just sat there and decided to compare shows while having some beers and made up stuff as you went along.

[@Erichev]

Thank you for listing all of the BS comparisons in this video ... YET AGAIN by WC. I'd watch Star Trek over most any Scifi shows. Andor was damn good, but I would re-watch season 1/2 of Mandalorian before Andor. And Lower Decks is one of the best ST shows ever. TLoU was good, but strayed too much from the game for brevities sake. Season 1 should have been 2 seasons. They left out too much. TWD seasons 1-5 were superb. I was hooked immediately. Whereas I only watched TLoU because I played the games. My wife stopped watching it after 2 episodes. And she's seen all of TWD and almost all of the spin-offs (FtWD fell off quickly).

[@melindalevins6197]

Reno 911 ruined Cops and other shows like that

[@zoyadulzura7490]

I can't attest to that, but Reno 911 was one of those shows that should have gotten way more seasons.

[@niteshpanda2156]

And this is how I ruined 12 minutes of my life.

[@KoolKeithProductions]

The only show on this list that TRULY ruined other shows was Lost, and its because once it blew up, show producers just wanted to copy its formula for easy success. A large, multiracial cast, and season long mysteries that end with yet another mystery for the next season. But these shows didnt have the sharp writing to back it up and ultimately failed. HEROES comes to kind 😂

[@seaconfused]

Daredevil makes all kind of "verse" shows like playing dress-up. That's why I'm really scared about what Disney's version would do the these characters.

[@Erichev]

I preferred Arrow, Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. To me they were more entertaining than Daredevil. I felt like DD was too slow paced. I stopped watching Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and the kung fu guy show. Didn't mind Punisher, but it was better than JJ, LC, and KF guy.

[@zoyadulzura7490]

@@Erichev I loved Jessica Jones, or at least the first season (haven't seen the second). David Tennant's performance was stellar. He makes a fantastic villain.

[@danii7584]

well, then again the boys shts on daredevil, even directly makes fun of it via the "differently abled super hero" scene.

[@Sea-Bird..]

​@@danii7584 I can see why some may prefer The Boys over DD or vice-versa, but to say one shits on the other is absurdly dumb

[@drumaticpageofmusic4148]

I feel like TWD gets way too much hate nowadays. It was the biggest show on TV and then they kill off one character (who imo needed to die to move the story forward) and all of a sudden everyone was like “It’s shit!” Honestly I liked every season and I’m still a fan

[@reim1004]

Agreed 100%. Its just one of those Bandwagon thing people jump on to be cool on the internet. I cant wait for The Ones who live.

[@ambientq7299]

Well said

[@Alreezy]

Walking Dead hasn't been good since season 3 and has really overstayed its welcome. I'm not alone in thinking this!

[@Lemmingofdoom]

One issue with that character’s death is in the source material their survival and thriving is integral to the eventual conclusion of the series - the positive of that death was the showrunners stating plainly “this is our own interpretation” the negative was they then showed for several seasons that they had no idea what they were going to aim to achieve with their interpretation, beyond being different to the source

[@GODMCIC]

​@@AlreezyYeah you are.

[@kylesummers420]

I’m an avid TWD fan and can accept its many flaws. But saying it ruined TLOU is completely wrong. I’d argue that TWD redefined what the zombie genre was, especially up to season 5 and from 9 onwards (I’d even argue season 6-8 as it’s my favourite arc). TLOU attempted to do what TWD had already done 10 years prior instead of going with the tropes TWD set. I don’t mind TLOU but the filler episodes are at best as good as one of the worse filler TWD episodes. I don’t think they got the pacing right is what I’m saying.

[@navneetsharma5865]

Netflix's DARK ruined most of time travelling shows

[@l00k4tstuff]

Try "Continuum". It gets a little lost on itself about 3/4 through, but has a stunning ending.

[@simonmccormack]

Netflix’s Daredevil is the baseline that Disney need to be better than, but we know they will get nowhere near

[@sleepinggorilla]

The Battlestar Galactica reboot has had a deep effect on Science Fiction. It spawned several expensive, overly stylish, but ultimately slowly paced and vapid imitations. Shows that have a thoughtful tone, but when dig in you realize that the characters are stupid children and these big moments are not as devastating as the show wants you to think they are. Fallen Skies, the V reboot, Ascension, Rebel Moon, Justice League, The Last of Us, Andor.

[@Erichev]

BSG was wonderful. I'd put it above most SyFy shows. I completely forgot about it in the Andor debate. Which is lesser than Mandalorian 1/2.

[@patrickarseneault7407]

the last of us didnt ruined the walking dead. the two are completly different. one is a zombie show and the other is a fungal mutation

[@eddmario]

I think the reason The Last of Us TV show is so beloved was because the director of the games was also involved directly with the show, which is how all movie/tv show adaptations of other forms of media should be.

[@koda-manmusic6259]

Rings of Power killed Rings of Power.

[@WillisVision]

The Walking Dead destroyed itself with bad decisions by showrunner Scott Gimple, and now they've oversaturated the market with too many watered-down spin offs. Even without The Last of Us, The Walking Dead would be on life support, lol.

[@AndrewsSecrets360]

People say the Last of Us is what Walking Dead should be but people also forget for those first few seasons how popular and good it was. It’s easy to crap on now that the last seasons left a poor taste. I’m not a Walking Dead fan anymore, but to say Last of Us is what TWD should have been because it had a first good season is pretty silly to be honest. TWD ruined itself before Last of Us ever took off.

[@dwightyboy5324]

I couldn't agree more. The first 5 seasons of TWD were at its peak in my opinion. Honestly this is an unpopular opinion, but I think the last of us show adaptation is overrated

[@martinde-serres8724]

TWD could've been better if Frank Darabont didn't get fired during S2 and replaced by Scott Gimple aka the man who ruined the show ever since

[@ethandraper4645]

Gimple gave us seasons 4,5 and 6 so he's not all bad.

[@martinde-serres8724]

@@ethandraper4645 he killed off several fan favorite characters by firing their actors, so no he's very bad he's the reason why the show dipped in quality

[@XTheLolX301]

The Walking Dead was ruined before The last of us came out

[@Ceares]

Every show doesn't need to be deep, dark and meaningful. There's nothing wrong with shows being soapy, super tropey or more procedural or lighter in tone. As long as they do what they're doing well, then no other show can "ruin" them. Reminds me of when people were comparing Psych and the Mentalist, two shows going for completely different things, just because they shared a general premise.

[@zoyadulzura7490]

Good point.

[@AnntheTheatreFan]

Arrow was quite good in its first season. Dark, moody, with interesting character background. All these anti-hero vibes were very engaging and with a just right amount of violence to keep things interesting but not to avert less familiar with the character audience (like me, 23f at the time). But when they added to a rather grounded, matter of fact show the Multiverse stuff, magic, soap-opera subplots, and retconning the island events it became unwatchable.

[@davidrohde2636]

😂😂😂 tell your trek culture colleagues your theory 😂

[@GroundhogJay]

People actually watched Billions for 7 seasons? That's an epic twist.

[@emperorkarlfranzrulerofthe2826]

GoT did not ruin rings of power, the studio not respecting the lore ruined it

[@jsmith3946]

yet it high view count and it's high rating on RT says other wise

[@Just_Pele]

LOTR was a trainwreck from the start, with terrible casting, poor writing, and even worse direction. It's the very definition of a woke disaster, where intersectionality dictated hiring decisions rather than experience and merit, made worse by attempting to shoehorn that very same narrative into the story itself.

[@smileyklock]

Game of Thrones did not ruin the shows from Amazon Amazon ruined those shows all on there own stupid merit.

[@KyleWillLivingston]

Even though I still like it, what show ruined American Horror Story is America Horror Story. And you picked the wrong superhero show. Agents of SHIELD ruined Arrowverse so much that in the later seasons of The Flash tried to copy AoS's story structure.

[@Erichev]

I forgot about AoS. Which might mean something if I hadn't watched 200+ tv series. Too many to remember them all.

[@miljanmatovic880]

The walking dead is way better than the last of us (which I see as an eye candy and a bunch of unnecessary side-plots)

[@itzbp9949]

100% agree

[@jaeusa160]

I'm pretty sure being boring with cheap tokenization ruined Rings of Power.

[@zoyadulzura7490]

More like Cheap Tolkienization

[@jeffreycarman2185]

3:29 Trek needs to keep being Trek. It shows that it doesn’t really do gritty or realistic sci-fi, and it really shouldn’t try. Trek was always the high-tech space utopia, and a gritty noir dystopian show like The Expanse just isn’t the same thing. So the seasons of Strange New Worlds that tried to go full-gritty just weren’t that good. I’m glad they switched it up for the later seasons. I do think Picard pulled off gritty noir a bit better, but it didn’t feel as much like Trek as it should have.

[@GroundhogJay]

The ending of Lost was perfect and emotionally satisfying. And I will die on this hill.

[@doctor_sixty]

You will die alone. 😅

[@colinthedogfromspaced9365]

Well said Mr Flibble.

[@mischarowe]

🪦🪦

[@zoyadulzura7490]

I wholeheartedly disagree, but it is oddly comforting to me that there are people who enjoy the end. It verifies that its creation was not a waste. Also, I've got my own random hills to die on, so I get it.

[@KoolKeithProductions]

​@@zoyadulzura7490may l ask what exactly was your issue with the ending of Lost? This channel repeatedly claims that it was "divisive", but it seems like there was only a small vocal minority who disliked it.

[@Miller54K]

CBS ruined Star Trek, not the expanse. They turned one of the most hopeful, optimistic shows in history and turned it into a nihilistic, dystopian nightmare. They pissed on Genes vision and disrespected fans. What we have now isnt Star Trek. Its an abomination.

[@zoyadulzura7490]

I haven't seen the new shows, but the description "a nihilistic, dystopian nightmare" sounds fascinating. Just not what Star Trek is. The optimism and the depiction of a progressive, equitable future was at the core of what TNG was (the series I am most familiar with).

[@Miller54K]

@zoyadulzura7490 Unfortunately nihilism is what kids are learning today. I spoke with my nephew whos in college learning about writing and he told me they're basically failing anyone that isn't writing nihilism. Anything upbeat, optimistic, hopeful, ect gets downgraded. It seems we will have to put up with "dark gritty" shows for a while before it works itself out.

[@bryanslick8704]

The overall point of this list is really immature, apparently extracted from a brain that takes rankings of things far too seriously. If you cannot enjoy what's right in front of you without comparing it to something else - like you need to validate or give yourself permission to enjoy the current thing - you really need help.

[@cnot4948]

Game of Thrones didn't ruin The Wheel of Time - the writers and directors did that all on their own. Give credit where credit is due.

[@SierraGolfNiner]

The Expanse didn’t “ruin” Star Trek. They are, for the most part, vastly different shows. That’s like saying “Lost” ruined Star Trek because they’re both SciFi. Star Trek Discovery was a pivot to the new “gritty” TV format that wasn’t well received by a lot of trek fans. It’s also not written in any sort of logical fashion, the main storylines for the seasons are ALL over the place. Probably the highlight of that show will be the Section 31 spin off. Also ST Lower Decks and ST Strange New Worlds are AMAZING shows. SNW does a great job of showing how amazing Trek can be if you’re willing to break the mold a little bit. And LD is hilarious and self-referential in all the best ways. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the Expanse as well, they have fantastic near-future SciFi that is strongly tied to real physics in a way that is just so enjoyable for the “hard” sci-fi types… but it’s no where in the same realm of Star Trek. Also the problem with Billions was the same problem that happens to lots of shows, you keep trying to one up yourself until life becomes absurd. Also Damian Lewis’s wife dying and him stepping out of the show was the biggest loss. It was a great cast, but Ax was the megalomaniacal glue that held it all together. The Prince character just didn’t do it. The end of Billions was great, when Ax was back.

[@ambientq7299]

I dont agree that TLOU ruined Walking Dead. They are wildly different, even if they appear the same. TLOU is about getting an immune person from point A to point B. Walking Dead is about survival. Yes, the character drama is amazing in TLOU, because we mainly focus on two characters, you dont even see the Clickers that much (unlike the games). While Walking Dead is an ensemble cast, and the Walkers are constant threat and always there. Its a vastly different take on the same premise, and one doesnt ruin the other

[@DrNothing23]

Gotta say, "Wire vs. Shield?" is a good question...

[@VonPunk]

I'd choose The Wire, as much as I love The Shield. I think those two along with Hill Street Blues, Homicide: Life On The Street & NYPD Blue are my top 5 cop shows of all time and I don't think anything released in last 15 years even comes close to changing my list.

[@johntaylorson7769]

The Wire is in a class of it's own entirely. Controversial I know, but I think even The Sopranos is poor in comparison- or at least has a lot more faults. That said, the Shield has a much better overall narrative arc and finale than pretty much any show I've ever seen, including The Wire, Breaking Bad, Sopranos etc. The Shield seemed such a great complete package and the end managed to be both surprising AND satisfying, which is really difficult to pull off.

[@DrNothing23]

@@johntaylorson7769Indeed. The ending scene of the Shield gives me goosebumps every time I think about it. PERFECT fate for Mackey, IMO.

[@johntaylorson7769]

@@DrNothing23 ain't it just? Caught me completely off guard - and indeed frustrated some mates of mine, who wanted something different - but I thought it was absolutely brilliant writing. Shane's closure too. Never seen a series finale as good as that.

[@heyassbut8199]

American horror story ruined itself, its funny to think it went down hill because of a different show when it started rolling down after the first season all by itself 😂

[@Paulc71189]

I think it’s pretty stupid to say any show ruined some other show. Any show that failed did so because they weren’t very good to begin with. It’s possible to have more than 1 good show in a genre so if one did well and one didn’t then there’s usually a reason.

[@GroundhogJay]

I actually loved Obi-Wan Kenobi, as a show, but, yeah, Andor blew everything out of the water.

[@gadflyeducator]

I would say Riva’s story was far more interesting than Obi-wan’s by far. That would have been a more interesting show.

[@calcutlass]

I'm surprised The Boys didn't make this list. Makes other hero shows look like Saturday morning cartoons.

[@matthewfisher2707]

Ummm no. Picard and Lower Decks beg to differ.

[@goldwavetv7456]

There are a million different reasons people aren't feeling the new Star Trek shows. I guarantee The Expanse has absolutely nothing to do with it

[@kenyz.hiireath]

Nah American Horror Story ruined itself

[@commandZee]

An argument can be made that the Battle Star Galactica reboot ruined Star Trek and other sci-fi space series before The Expanse.

[@blackdragon6]

That's a good point!

[@georginalynnrotteau-debie7936]

Sorry I don't think South park ruined Family guy i havent watch south park in ages and i love family guy

[@dwightyboy5324]

Honestly I find South Park overrated. South Park kinda became bad after like 2005

[@transmascdruid77]

imho, the only show that holds a candle to LOST in terms of being a solid scifi mystery show is DARK.

[@fuzzy-maraca8581]

It's less that GoT ruined the other content, more that GoT's popularity and extreme following changed how the storytellers and producers went about creating their shows because they wanted to be "the next Game of Thrones." Comparing the shows is what caused the problem in the first place.

[@rafaelpozo9962]

Rings of power it's bad by itself, same with wheel of time, no need to blame others for their failure And TWD started to go south long before Tlou started, starwars was ruined since Disney bought it

[@cedricbrookins4851]

I like the arrowverse . Every superhero thing doesn't have to be dark. That is what hurts the dceu. And other stuff!

[@SuperLocrian]

I'll take Grant over Ezra any time!

[@danjumasmith7122]

The Wire and Southland are basically tied at first place for quality.

[@anna8328]

That's because the series that manage to "ruin" other series are fucking iconic and the ruined stuff was never that good in the first place.

[@brucelucasjr5856]

Lets get one thing straight, Game of Thrones didn't ruin Rings of Power. Rings of Power ruined Rings Of Power. To pit those 2 shows in the same sentence is heresy

[@docgrey3826]

Calling BS. Rings of power ruined itself. They need to listen to the fans next time. If you want to blow a billion dollars and have a chance of making some of it back, Listen to the fans and not self-centered writers who blew off the only thing that could have made Rings of Power special. Tolken.

[@BarbarosaAlexander]

I've only just started Andor, but I'm loving it. The Walking Dead's greatest threat was Season 2 and forward of The Walking Dead.

[@FrakkinToasterLuvva]

The Walking Dead ruined itself, by becoming so awful. But unfortunately, it's also the proof - in my case at least - that the opposite of what you describe in the video can also happen: TWD also ruined my ability to enjoy The Last of Us, because TWD got me so sick and tired of the concept of "protagonists keep running into other humans, who turn out to either be awful, or die or both" that TWD ran mercilessly into the ground (even though I though the idea that the living humans were the real villains and the 'walking dead' rather than the zombies was a great idea... too bad TWD's execution was so bad).. that I've become almost allergic to it, and I can't really enjoy it in TLOU either, I'm so sick and tired of it.

[@realmdma]

The last of us didn’t ruin the walking dead, decisions made by the showrunners did. When walking dead was at its peak, its impact and quality exceeded TLoU’s.

[@blackdragon6]

Totally agree about the wire, at least for me. Same with Andor. I disagree about The Last of Us tho. Because Scott Gimple ruined The Walking Dead. Not TLOU.

[@markdombrowski9619]

Amazon ruined ‘ Wheel of Time’ and ‘Rings of Power’ . Netflix would have done a better job with ‘ Wheel of Time’.

[@Erichev]

Where are Banshee, Breaking Bad, Spartacus, True Blood, Money Heist, Battlestar Galactica, Sopranos, Vikings, and Dexter?

[@1975KyleDavid]

Just the name Andor was bad for the show. Seriously, splicing two coordinating conjunctions together isn't a title worth watching.

[@aaronworthing1023]

That episode of South Park would probably have more cultural impact if Comedy Central didn’t Chicken out and censor it

[@Zethonring23]

I just started watching the original Star Trek series a few weeks ago and it's pretty much ruined modern sci-fi television for me. The Disney Star Wars series were the first cosmic TV series I watched and while they're fun they're an absolute joke compared to OG Star Trek, as well as other recent series like Lost in Space, Doctor Who, every Marvel and DC show from the last 15 years (excluding Daredevil) and HBO's The Last of Us which I loathed so much I couldn't even finish. Stellar writing, characterization, melding of genre with human truth and they made it look easy, 60 years ago.

[@stingrey1571]

My wife became such a fan of succession. She thought billions was a copy cat. I had to keep telling her the latter came first.

[@doclewis8927]

I stopped watching Lost when NONE of Season 2 answered any of my questions from Season 1. I watched about half of Season 2 before I realized that they were NEVER going to answer the questions I had and they didn't answer them until the last season apparently. I've only watched "recaps" and "reviews". For some reason, I happened to watch Lost only one more time and it was halfway through the episode where Charlie died. I had no idea what was going on except that my favorite (or one of them) characters died. I cried even though I hadn't watched since halfway through season 2. That's how good of a character Charlie was.

[@macbonad7324]

According to Whatculture. I'm allergic to good TV, because I haven't watched any of the series on this list in its entirety.

[@Dragnfly_mynamewastaken]

Having this mindset must absolutely suck. Especially since for the people inflicted with it, it likely applies to everything else in their life. I hope people trapped in this can eventually learn to develop past it.

[@tribblefluffer]

Most of these shows ruined themselves and 50% of the people who claim to love GoT just want an excuse to watch porn on the big TV in the lounge.

[@JoesCaribbeanVanLife]

Rings of Power ruined itself by not being LOTR lore accurate.

[@bryanslick8704]

This list is just absurd, as many lists based solely on opinion(s) tend to be. 'Lost' didn't ruin anything but itself around the middle of Season 3. It was airy crap that fell apart as soon as the writers needed to actually come up with any answers to their previously-undefined "mysteries". 'The Expanse" in no way affects enjoyment of any other series. Etc, etc, etc. The other points are equally ridiculous, particularly the bit about 'The Wire', during which the writer contradicts their "point" by labeling the show as underrated. No show "ruins" an other show in the mind of someone who doesn't spend their enjoyment if media in constant, childish comparison of other shows to what's currently on the screen. WhatCulture in the 2010s was far, far, FAR superior to WhatCulture in the 2020s, but neither is "ruined" by the other in any direction, by any slice of comparison, etc. WhatCulture 2020s is ruining WhatCulture 2020s.

[@Chrissykat24]

Agreed this whole list i subjective. You can watch all these shows and still get enjoyment out of anything that came after. People gotta stop comparing everything and just accept each show for what it is.

[@MrTheGadfly]

Expanse didn't ruin new Trek. Discovery ruined itself because it wanted to be Expanse (and failed miserably) and then made it harder for other new Trek to try to focus back on the old Trek.

[@denimdan908]

I started watching the series "From" that was created by the creators of Lost. And just like Lost, the series started off as an absolute banger, and like Lost it took an unnecessarily ridiculous turn in the story line. I should have known better...

[@haljordan777]

1:48 Game of Thrones didn't ruin Rings of Power. Rings of Power ruined itself.

[@themanfromvolantis]

The narrator obviously wasn't paying attention in Last Of Us, since there are no zombies in it.

[@rikusschulze6249]

The Wheel of Time wasn't ruined by GoT. The Wheel Of Time was ruined by its producers and writers.

[@jcehlert]

Daredevil is great, but the Punisher showed up and made the show better.

[@semajohn]

The Expanse is a modern day Babylon 5. The Haunting of Hill House isn't obsessed about porn and being gay.

[@dthomas4566]

The expanse really is a fucking gem 💎, I was skeptical until season 2 and now three isn't anything like it And then Andor made all other Star wars shows look completely full of shit

[@bryancooper5495]

Let's be clear rings of power ruined itself

[@Whatisright]

The Wire didn't ruin anything for these other cop shows. The competition's the same, it just got more fierce. Daredevil and Punisher ruined the MCU.

[@anuchakanchanasuwan3439]

Fringe>X-Files

[@PKirkham1]

South Park didn’t ruin family guy, it just ruined itself

[@halfghaniteevee3559]

Andor isn't better than The Mandolorian either

[@ronpetzel9978]

I disagree with any of these shows ruining it for future shows… What each one did was “set the bar” for good tv… It’s not their fault others couldn’t clear that standard, that’s on the writers of the other series…

[@Narsil31]

The Expanse is the best sci-fi show that has been made IMO. The Expanse faithfully adapted the books to screen. An amazing show if you haven't seen it or read the book I recommend you do both.

[@timmoporter3742]

I watched the first episode of GoT...then watched about 10 mins of 2nd ep....got bored and never watched another. Then bought, read the books, loved them. But then again...I haven't watched TV for over 17 years.

[@bishopsteiner7134]

gotta strongly disagree on Strange New Worlds. LOVE the Expanse. But the two are VERY different shows, and both are great.

[@drakkar33]

Daredevil didn't ruin the Arrowverse. Cw ruined it themselves by pushing their agenda down our throats instead of continuing to have good storytelling. There are plenty of dark comics stories they could have taken from instead of forcing useless side stories on people

[@N7Tigger]

If Game of Thrones never existed Rings of Power would still be dog shit.

[@RandalReid]

7:24 The Sopranos and The Wire shaped a lot of the succeeding crime and cop shows that touted itself as grounded and gritty through the years.

[@dragonweyr44]

I liked Mandalorian better than Andor

[@themanfromvolantis]

....even season 3?

[@dragonweyr44]

@@themanfromvolantis Even season 3